SV: Pc-audio Digest, Vol 93, Issue 25

2011-09-21 Thread Bardia
Hello!
Ok   were can i  found this  c1000  and  balabalko  to eloqvense text files?


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Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

2011-09-21 Thread Kevin Cussick
There used to be a bit of software called biblos I am not sure I have 
the spelling correct.


Anyway this software used the eloquence from Jaws,  it will not use any 
other voices on your computer just jaws I used to use this but no longer 
use it.  it did work well Google it and you might still get it.


On 20/09/2011 22:23, Paul (Pawel) Loba wrote:

Hi,
Having Kurzweil1000 you can generate any adio files right there and it can
be done with Eloquence's voices too, so there is no need for any other soft.
  Pawel.


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On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

Fanus thanx man!

Interestingly enough it is not only me from down here who have a hearing
loss that prefer the british speech.  I know of quite a few of uswho
actually told me the same thing.

Andre



-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: 20 September 2011 07:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

Hi Andre
If you install the trial version of k1000 (kurzweil reader) you get
eloquence. If you then use balabolka you can convert text to a .mp3 with the
jaws Reid voice. I do not know about the UK english Reid voice.
Regards
Fanus

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From: André van Deventerandred...@webafrica.org.za
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:16 PM
Subject: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence


Hi all



I know there are several programs that would allow you to turn text files
into audio files in mp3 format using the  sapi voices on the computer.



However, I find the very odd phrasing of especially the realspeak voices a
bit difficult to understand.



Hence my question:  Has anyone ever written such a programme which turns
text files into audio files using the Eloquence speech synthesizer?  That
would also mean if you e.g. like the british voice, it then uses the british
voice as it is already installed on your computer?



Just curious.



Andre





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RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

2011-09-21 Thread André van Deventer
I know there was something like that written by someone in Italy I think.
The interface was also in Italian if I remember correctly.

But it would still be usuable with a bit of practice.



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
Sent: 21 September 2011 12:19 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

There used to be a bit of software called biblos I am not sure I have the
spelling correct.

Anyway this software used the eloquence from Jaws,  it will not use any
other voices on your computer just jaws I used to use this but no longer use
it.  it did work well Google it and you might still get it.

On 20/09/2011 22:23, Paul (Pawel) Loba wrote:
 Hi,
 Having Kurzweil1000 you can generate any adio files right there and it 
 can be done with Eloquence's voices too, so there is no need for any other
soft.
   Pawel.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of André van Deventer
 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:55 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 Fanus thanx man!

 Interestingly enough it is not only me from down here who have a 
 hearing loss that prefer the british speech.  I know of quite a few of 
 uswho actually told me the same thing.

 Andre



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Fanus
 Sent: 20 September 2011 07:01 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 Hi Andre
 If you install the trial version of k1000 (kurzweil reader) you get 
 eloquence. If you then use balabolka you can convert text to a .mp3 
 with the jaws Reid voice. I do not know about the UK english Reid voice.
 Regards
 Fanus

 - Original Message -
 From: André van Deventerandred...@webafrica.org.za
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:16 PM
 Subject: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence


 Hi all



 I know there are several programs that would allow you to turn text 
 files into audio files in mp3 format using the  sapi voices on the
computer.



 However, I find the very odd phrasing of especially the realspeak 
 voices a bit difficult to understand.



 Hence my question:  Has anyone ever written such a programme which 
 turns text files into audio files using the Eloquence speech 
 synthesizer?  That would also mean if you e.g. like the british voice, 
 it then uses the british voice as it is already installed on your
computer?



 Just curious.



 Andre





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Re: Loquendo tts.

2011-09-21 Thread tickpub
Hi back; to begin with, their entire site is very unfriendly. I have
contacted them several times and as you thought, they do not seem to sell
to individuals. I also like their voices and have even looked for cracked
copies but no go so far. But they might not be compatable with sappi.
They really do a bad job with their PR! It is an Italian company and
maybe that is the reason...Noodle Brains! I gave up on them about six
months ago. I do get their news letters and have been watching for their
sales to us common folks. If you do find anything out, please post it for
us. 
MMM 

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Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

2011-09-21 Thread Dane Trethowan

Hi!

Isn't there a tool in Goldwave that does this? It uses the default SAPI 
speech engine or you can choose from amongst multiple SAPI voices if you 
have multiple voices installed.




On 21/09/2011 10:15 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

I know there was something like that written by someone in Italy I think.
The interface was also in Italian if I remember correctly.

But it would still be usuable with a bit of practice.



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
Sent: 21 September 2011 12:19 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

There used to be a bit of software called biblos I am not sure I have the
spelling correct.

Anyway this software used the eloquence from Jaws,  it will not use any
other voices on your computer just jaws I used to use this but no longer use
it.  it did work well Google it and you might still get it.

On 20/09/2011 22:23, Paul (Pawel) Loba wrote:

Hi,
Having Kurzweil1000 you can generate any adio files right there and it
can be done with Eloquence's voices too, so there is no need for any other

soft.

   Pawel.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using
eloquence

Fanus thanx man!

Interestingly enough it is not only me from down here who have a
hearing loss that prefer the british speech.  I know of quite a few of
uswho actually told me the same thing.

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: 20 September 2011 07:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using
eloquence

Hi Andre
If you install the trial version of k1000 (kurzweil reader) you get
eloquence. If you then use balabolka you can convert text to a .mp3
with the jaws Reid voice. I do not know about the UK english Reid voice.
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: André van Deventerandred...@webafrica.org.za
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:16 PM
Subject: program to turn text files into audio files but using
eloquence


Hi all



I know there are several programs that would allow you to turn text
files into audio files in mp3 format using the  sapi voices on the

computer.



However, I find the very odd phrasing of especially the realspeak
voices a bit difficult to understand.



Hence my question:  Has anyone ever written such a programme which
turns text files into audio files using the Eloquence speech
synthesizer?  That would also mean if you e.g. like the british voice,
it then uses the british voice as it is already installed on your

computer?



Just curious.



Andre





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Problem using ITunes.

2011-09-21 Thread carliss
Listers,

iTunes keeps moving to the taskbar and  when it does I can't get to it.
There's a iTunes buttone on the taskbar, but I can't do anything with it
when I press enter. This happens a lot lately.

Is this happening to anyone else? If so, what have you done about it if
anything? Has iTunes changed its interface?

Thanks for any ideas.

 

Carliss

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RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

2011-09-21 Thread André van Deventer
Hi Dane

But not eloquence which is not sapi as far as I know.

That is what I am looking for and especially the British one.



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 21 September 2011 02:43 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

Hi!

Isn't there a tool in Goldwave that does this? It uses the default SAPI
speech engine or you can choose from amongst multiple SAPI voices if you
have multiple voices installed.



On 21/09/2011 10:15 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
 I know there was something like that written by someone in Italy I think.
 The interface was also in Italian if I remember correctly.

 But it would still be usuable with a bit of practice.



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
 Sent: 21 September 2011 12:19 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 There used to be a bit of software called biblos I am not sure I have 
 the spelling correct.

 Anyway this software used the eloquence from Jaws,  it will not use 
 any other voices on your computer just jaws I used to use this but no 
 longer use it.  it did work well Google it and you might still get it.

 On 20/09/2011 22:23, Paul (Pawel) Loba wrote:
 Hi,
 Having Kurzweil1000 you can generate any adio files right there and 
 it can be done with Eloquence's voices too, so there is no need for 
 any other
 soft.
Pawel.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of André van Deventer
 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:55 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 Fanus thanx man!

 Interestingly enough it is not only me from down here who have a 
 hearing loss that prefer the british speech.  I know of quite a few 
 of uswho actually told me the same thing.

 Andre



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Fanus
 Sent: 20 September 2011 07:01 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 Hi Andre
 If you install the trial version of k1000 (kurzweil reader) you get 
 eloquence. If you then use balabolka you can convert text to a .mp3 
 with the jaws Reid voice. I do not know about the UK english Reid voice.
 Regards
 Fanus

 - Original Message -
 From: André van Deventerandred...@webafrica.org.za
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:16 PM
 Subject: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence


 Hi all



 I know there are several programs that would allow you to turn text 
 files into audio files in mp3 format using the  sapi voices on the
 computer.


 However, I find the very odd phrasing of especially the realspeak 
 voices a bit difficult to understand.



 Hence my question:  Has anyone ever written such a programme which 
 turns text files into audio files using the Eloquence speech 
 synthesizer?  That would also mean if you e.g. like the british 
 voice, it then uses the british voice as it is already installed on 
 your
 computer?


 Just curious.



 Andre





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Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

2011-09-21 Thread Gianluca Apollaro

Hi all,
I don't use biblos, but I'm Italian. I went on its author website and I 
read the last version of biblos is not free, but here's one that is, 
always on his website.

http://www.digrande.it/pages/download/download.asp?file=biblosfree.
It says between the supported languages there's English aswell.
Again, I don't use this software, but I hope that helped.
Bye
Gianluca.
Skype: gianluca8815

On 21/09/2011 15:09, André van Deventer wrote:

Hi Dane

But not eloquence which is not sapi as far as I know.

That is what I am looking for and especially the British one.



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 21 September 2011 02:43 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

Hi!

Isn't there a tool in Goldwave that does this? It uses the default SAPI
speech engine or you can choose from amongst multiple SAPI voices if you
have multiple voices installed.



On 21/09/2011 10:15 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

I know there was something like that written by someone in Italy I think.
The interface was also in Italian if I remember correctly.

But it would still be usuable with a bit of practice.



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
Sent: 21 September 2011 12:19 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using
eloquence

There used to be a bit of software called biblos I am not sure I have
the spelling correct.

Anyway this software used the eloquence from Jaws,  it will not use
any other voices on your computer just jaws I used to use this but no
longer use it.  it did work well Google it and you might still get it.

On 20/09/2011 22:23, Paul (Pawel) Loba wrote:

Hi,
Having Kurzweil1000 you can generate any adio files right there and
it can be done with Eloquence's voices too, so there is no need for
any other

soft.

Pawel.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using
eloquence

Fanus thanx man!

Interestingly enough it is not only me from down here who have a
hearing loss that prefer the british speech.  I know of quite a few
of uswho actually told me the same thing.

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Fanus
Sent: 20 September 2011 07:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using
eloquence

Hi Andre
If you install the trial version of k1000 (kurzweil reader) you get
eloquence. If you then use balabolka you can convert text to a .mp3
with the jaws Reid voice. I do not know about the UK english Reid voice.
Regards
Fanus

- Original Message -
From: André van Deventerandred...@webafrica.org.za
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:16 PM
Subject: program to turn text files into audio files but using
eloquence


Hi all



I know there are several programs that would allow you to turn text
files into audio files in mp3 format using the  sapi voices on the

computer.


However, I find the very odd phrasing of especially the realspeak
voices a bit difficult to understand.



Hence my question:  Has anyone ever written such a programme which
turns text files into audio files using the Eloquence speech
synthesizer?  That would also mean if you e.g. like the british
voice, it then uses the british voice as it is already installed on
your

computer?


Just curious.



Andre





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RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

2011-09-21 Thread André van Deventer
Gianluca

Thanx very much.  I'll check that one out.



-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Gianluca Apollaro
Sent: 21 September 2011 03:18 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using eloquence

Hi all,
I don't use biblos, but I'm Italian. I went on its author website and I read
the last version of biblos is not free, but here's one that is, always on
his website.
http://www.digrande.it/pages/download/download.asp?file=biblosfree.
It says between the supported languages there's English aswell.
Again, I don't use this software, but I hope that helped.
Bye
Gianluca.
Skype: gianluca8815

On 21/09/2011 15:09, André van Deventer wrote:
 Hi Dane

 But not eloquence which is not sapi as far as I know.

 That is what I am looking for and especially the British one.



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: 21 September 2011 02:43 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 Hi!

 Isn't there a tool in Goldwave that does this? It uses the default 
 SAPI speech engine or you can choose from amongst multiple SAPI voices 
 if you have multiple voices installed.



 On 21/09/2011 10:15 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
 I know there was something like that written by someone in Italy I think.
 The interface was also in Italian if I remember correctly.

 But it would still be usuable with a bit of practice.



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick
 Sent: 21 September 2011 12:19 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 There used to be a bit of software called biblos I am not sure I have 
 the spelling correct.

 Anyway this software used the eloquence from Jaws,  it will not use 
 any other voices on your computer just jaws I used to use this but no 
 longer use it.  it did work well Google it and you might still get it.

 On 20/09/2011 22:23, Paul (Pawel) Loba wrote:
 Hi,
 Having Kurzweil1000 you can generate any adio files right there and 
 it can be done with Eloquence's voices too, so there is no need for 
 any other
 soft.
 Pawel.


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of André van Deventer
 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:55 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 Fanus thanx man!

 Interestingly enough it is not only me from down here who have a 
 hearing loss that prefer the british speech.  I know of quite a few 
 of uswho actually told me the same thing.

 Andre



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Fanus
 Sent: 20 September 2011 07:01 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence

 Hi Andre
 If you install the trial version of k1000 (kurzweil reader) you get 
 eloquence. If you then use balabolka you can convert text to a .mp3 
 with the jaws Reid voice. I do not know about the UK english Reid voice.
 Regards
 Fanus

 - Original Message -
 From: André van Deventerandred...@webafrica.org.za
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:16 PM
 Subject: program to turn text files into audio files but using 
 eloquence


 Hi all



 I know there are several programs that would allow you to turn text 
 files into audio files in mp3 format using the  sapi voices on the
 computer.

 However, I find the very odd phrasing of especially the realspeak 
 voices a bit difficult to understand.



 Hence my question:  Has anyone ever written such a programme which 
 turns text files into audio files using the Eloquence speech 
 synthesizer?  That would also mean if you e.g. like the british 
 voice, it then uses the british voice as it is already installed on 
 your
 computer?

 Just curious.



 Andre





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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-21 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dave,

I know that David Tanner has some knowledge of Window-Eyes, so I wish he would 
explain how JFW is superior in this regard.  As I understand it, there 
are some limitations how one can redirect the output of SAPI synthesizers, but 
one can redirect the output of the version of Eloquence that comes with 
Window-Eyes to a different sound card as I believe one can with JFW's version 
of Eloquence.  This does not deal with Windows 7 sounds, though.  While I 
am a long-time Windows user, I am definitely open to the fact that the Mac does 
some things better.  However, there is a tendency for people to say Apple 
is better but not specifically why.  While I don't claim to have inside 
information, some of what I've read and heard leads me to believe that some of 
the 
problems we have with capturing streams in Windows 7 arises from Microsoft's 
commitment to digital rights management and their protection of the intent of 
a content provider.  I suspect that there will be pressure on Apple as well to 
implement safeguards that will make it more difficult to record just any 
stream.  
Time will tell, I guess.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:22:10 -0600, Dave bahr wrote:

is it not easy to set it up with window-eyes? That was rehtorical.


Dave C. Bahr

On 9/19/2011 8:53 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
 How?
 - Original Message - From: David Tanner
 david-tan...@peoplepc.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:40 PM
 Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


 What screen reader are you using? It is easiest to setup with Jaws.


 - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:15 PM
 Subject: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


 Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to record
 a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this internet radio
 stream that I want to record but when I select my soundcard it always
 just gets the reader and not the sound source I want, this is in
 total recorder. I can't find a way to do it, running windows 7 64 bit
 with demo of total recorder.

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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-21 Thread Dave bahr

Hi Steve,

I'm with you on the apple thing. Shrugs, drm, to hell with it I say.

Here's the strange thing about switching soundcards with window-eyes. 
When I switched the card from my internal one to my wireless headset and 
had configured goldwave, or maybe it was total recorder, to record with 
the internal one, I still got window-eyes coming through as if it had 
never been switched over to that wireless headset. I can try again, but 
I'm 99 percent sure I did it right.



Dave C. Bahr

On 9/21/2011 8:48 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:

Dave,

I know that David Tanner has some knowledge of Window-Eyes, so I wish he would 
explain how JFW is superior in this regard.  As I understand it, there
are some limitations how one can redirect the output of SAPI synthesizers, but 
one can redirect the output of the version of Eloquence that comes with
Window-Eyes to a different sound card as I believe one can with JFW's version 
of Eloquence.  This does not deal with Windows 7 sounds, though.  While I
am a long-time Windows user, I am definitely open to the fact that the Mac does 
some things better.  However, there is a tendency for people to say Apple
is better but not specifically why.  While I don't claim to have inside 
information, some of what I've read and heard leads me to believe that some of 
the
problems we have with capturing streams in Windows 7 arises from Microsoft's 
commitment to digital rights management and their protection of the intent of
a content provider.  I suspect that there will be pressure on Apple as well to 
implement safeguards that will make it more difficult to record just any stream.
Time will tell, I guess.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:22:10 -0600, Dave bahr wrote:


is it not easy to set it up with window-eyes? That was rehtorical.




Dave C. Bahr



On 9/19/2011 8:53 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

How?
- Original Message - From: David Tanner
david-tan...@peoplepc.com
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?



What screen reader are you using? It is easiest to setup with Jaws.


- Original Message - From: Dave Bahrdcba...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:15 PM
Subject: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?



Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to record
a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this internet radio
stream that I want to record but when I select my soundcard it always
just gets the reader and not the sound source I want, this is in
total recorder. I can't find a way to do it, running windows 7 64 bit
with demo of total recorder.

--


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Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?

2011-09-21 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dave,

One would have to know more about your wireless headset to be able to know what 
is happening.  If the transmitter just plugs into your headphone jack, 
you are using the same sound card with a different configuration that may or 
may not separate the streams.  If it is a USB wireless headset, it may have a 
separate sound card, but it may by default be trying to route everything to the 
headset, since it is designed to simulate headphones.  There could be some 
options buried somewhere that can control what happens when you use them, but 
I'm guessing the problem wouldn't be any different with JFW or other 
screen reader.  What happens when you use the headphones and do not change 
anything, what do you hear?  What happens if you use headphones, 
and if you hear everything, and you were to switch Window-Eyes back to your 
original sound card?  I am thinking that your headphones are pulling all 
sound to them and that you changing Window-Eyes to headphones may not be doing 
anything.  A lot depends, though, on how your wireless headphones 
connect and what they do.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:47:26 -0600, Dave bahr wrote:

Hi Steve,

I'm with you on the apple thing. Shrugs, drm, to hell with it I say.

Here's the strange thing about switching soundcards with window-eyes. 
When I switched the card from my internal one to my wireless headset and 
had configured goldwave, or maybe it was total recorder, to record with 
the internal one, I still got window-eyes coming through as if it had 
never been switched over to that wireless headset. I can try again, but 
I'm 99 percent sure I did it right.


Dave C. Bahr

On 9/21/2011 8:48 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
 Dave,

 I know that David Tanner has some knowledge of Window-Eyes, so I wish he 
 would explain how JFW is superior in this regard.  As I understand it, there
 are some limitations how one can redirect the output of SAPI synthesizers, 
 but one can redirect the output of the version of Eloquence that comes with
 Window-Eyes to a different sound card as I believe one can with JFW's 
 version of Eloquence.  This does not deal with Windows 7 sounds, though.  
While I
 am a long-time Windows user, I am definitely open to the fact that the Mac 
 does some things better.  However, there is a tendency for people to say 
Apple
 is better but not specifically why.  While I don't claim to have inside 
 information, some of what I've read and heard leads me to believe that some 
 of the
 problems we have with capturing streams in Windows 7 arises from Microsoft's 
 commitment to digital rights management and their protection of the intent 
of
 a content provider.  I suspect that there will be pressure on Apple as well 
 to implement safeguards that will make it more difficult to record just any 
 stream.
 Time will tell, I guess.

 Best regards,

 Steve Jacobson

 On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:22:10 -0600, Dave bahr wrote:

 is it not easy to set it up with window-eyes? That was rehtorical.


 Dave C. Bahr

 On 9/19/2011 8:53 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
 How?
 - Original Message - From: David Tanner
 david-tan...@peoplepc.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:40 PM
 Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


 What screen reader are you using? It is easiest to setup with Jaws.


 - Original Message - From: Dave Bahrdcba...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:15 PM
 Subject: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


 Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to record
 a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this internet radio
 stream that I want to record but when I select my soundcard it always
 just gets the reader and not the sound source I want, this is in
 total recorder. I can't find a way to do it, running windows 7 64 bit
 with demo of total recorder.

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ripping cd's with winamp pro

2011-09-21 Thread Michael Amaro
Hello Listers,
Can any one give me a step by step on how to rip cd's with winamp pro and jaws 
windows xP pro
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Is the timed recording accessible in Sound Forge?

2011-09-21 Thread Matthew Bullis
Well I've never had to use this feature before, but I'd like to know if the 
timed recording feature is accessible in Sound Forge 10? I'm using the Jaws 
scripts which Jim Snowbarger wrote, and will be leaving Friday afternoon, 
while the program I want to record is on Saturday night. If it was just 
leaving for a day and returning, I'd just leave the recording going, and 
trim the before and after, since I have enough hard drive space, but I don't 
have that much for this project. I'd not be able to record 48 hours 
straight. If the timer feature is accessible, will it let you choose a time 
for the next day?

Thanks a lot.
Matthew 



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Re: Is the timed recording accessible in Sound Forge?

2011-09-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Only me I'm sure! smile but I've found the Sound Forge record dialogue 
box to be a bit of a joke as far as accessibility is concerned 
particularly when it comes to advanced features such as timer recording.


I have a word I've always lived by and that is the word Convenience, 
it was more convenient for me to purchase Total Recorder as I know this 
software to be accessible, the standard version will do what you want 
and only costs $11.00 from memory, not only that but its a far more 
reliable recorder than Sound Forge has ever been.




On 22/09/2011 2:29 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote:
Well I've never had to use this feature before, but I'd like to know 
if the timed recording feature is accessible in Sound Forge 10? I'm 
using the Jaws scripts which Jim Snowbarger wrote, and will be leaving 
Friday afternoon, while the program I want to record is on Saturday 
night. If it was just leaving for a day and returning, I'd just leave 
the recording going, and trim the before and after, since I have 
enough hard drive space, but I don't have that much for this project. 
I'd not be able to record 48 hours straight. If the timer feature is 
accessible, will it let you choose a time for the next day?

Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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Re: Is the timed recording accessible in Sound Forge?

2011-09-21 Thread Matthew Bullis
   Hmm, Sound Forge unreliable in what way? Do you mean that Sound Forge 
has recording issues versus Total Recorder? I haven't noticed, though I know 
that earlier version did sometimes tend to drop seconds, and also ground the 
hard drive quite noisily. I've been a Sound Forge user for ten years though.
Matthew 



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