Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP 
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I eventually 
got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my steps!  I kind of 
like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the tracks right out of the 
box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it, you have to set it up to do 
it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as to tell me how to search for 
these tracks (would they be in the WMP library) it would be most 
appreciated!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if 
there is one.

that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are multiple 
entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 versions. I can 
usually tell which is the correct version because track lists are 
different or the number of tracks are different.

One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player 
to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My 
question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message! 
There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of 
the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife 
Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the 
agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that some of you know, once 
you've ripped something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; 
am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using 
this player, it _will not_ let you rip it again until you first remove 
it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most direct root to 
get to the Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to 
remove and delete it?

Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need forproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Eleanor Burke
I found the site OK and Euro 2012.  Now I would like to listen live to the 
Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time.  Also do I 
just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the match as I found a 
link saying listen but I did not find a link saying listen live, maybe I 
needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.


Eleaor
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need 
forproxy servers or VPN




Hi gang.

Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find that 
espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every single match 
for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC.  this is awesome!!! 
and for blind people like me, radio commentary is way way better compared 
to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play by play.


so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go down a 
couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen live button.


Hurrah!!!
Prateek


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)

2012-06-13 Thread Howard Traxler

I don't know if this is related to the Tom problem, but:

I have an early CD player--probably from the early 80's when they started 
making cd's.  It will only play up through the 17th track on a cd, no matter 
how many tracks there are on it.  I think it's because the hardware is 
limited.  I don't think they ever expected that cd's would hold more than a 
vinyl album.


Howard
- Original Message - 
From: Joe Giovanelli joeg...@earthlink.net

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)



Hi, Tom and others

I must say that I don't understand WMP.  I'm using easy cd-da extractor. 
It's only about 33 dollars American.  Ripping is very accessible and it 
even looks at titles of tracks while it rips.  So far I've ripped 100 
disks for my archives with no trouble.  That's more than I can say for 
COULDEX.


Joe Giovanelli

- Original Message -
#a;fromcb-ds;c #a;tom #a;kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
#a;tocb-ds;c cb-dsh#aa2pc audio #d;cus.n li/#d #j Pc-audio@pc-audio.org,
Date: Tuesday, Jun 12, 2012 20:43:07
Subject: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)




Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player 
to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My question 
is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!  There is no 
reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of the tracks on 
this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife Music.  So what is 
the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the agony of ripping it 
again, for as I'm sure that some of you know, once you've ripped 
something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 
11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it 
_will not_ let you rip it again until you first remove it from the 
library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most direct root to get to the 
Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to remove and 
delete it?

Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:

@@@ pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
 library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
 eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
 steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
 tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
 you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
 to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
 library) it would be most appreciated!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]
 
 
 Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
 there is one.
 that or the various, or the unknown artist.
 When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
 multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
 versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
 track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
 One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
 chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
 Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
 getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
 this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
 MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

 On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
 Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks! 
 My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
 message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
 ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
 got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
 to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
 some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
 player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
 anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
 rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
 someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
 library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
 Many thanks!
 Tom Kaufman
 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 -- 
 Christopher (CJ)
 chaltain at Gmail

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 
 
 
 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


-- 
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)

2012-06-13 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi Tom!
Have you tried other ripping programs.
Such as cdex, audiograbber, itunes?
I am not familiar with wmp so i can't think of any setting that might be 
wrong.

/A
On 2012-06-13 02:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player to my computer.  Both 
times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I 
got no error message!  There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping 
_all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife Music.  So what is 
the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that 
some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; am 
using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let 
you rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most 
direct root to get to the Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to remove and 
delete it?
Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
I used to use CDEX, but at the time, did not know (and still not sure I 
know) how to make it give the titles of the tracks!  This is why I have some 
older things that I ripped yearsago that say audio track 1, audio track 2 
and so on!  Last night, I ripped this particular CD in WMP (things usually 
work out fine) but when I went to the music folder (My Music) and found the 
folder where it had been ripped, I discovered that track 10 was missing; so 
were a couple other tracks that I know are on that CD!  So I deleted it and 
went into the library (I'll never be able to tell you how I accomplished it) 
but I did it; anyhow I ripped it again and got the same result!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)



Hi Tom!
Have you tried other ripping programs.
Such as cdex, audiograbber, itunes?
I am not familiar with wmp so i can't think of any setting that might be 
wrong.

/A
On 2012-06-13 02:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player 
to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My question 
is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!  There is no 
reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of the tracks on 
this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife Music.  So what is 
the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the agony of ripping it 
again, for as I'm sure that some of you know, once you've ripped 
something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 
11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it 
_will not_ let you rip it again until you first remove it from the 
library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most direct root to get to the 
Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to remove and 
delete it?

Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


RE: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Adrian Spratt
Tom,

 For locating tracks in WMP, a tip I got from David Biales' manual is to
switch between the library (on the one hand) and all the other options (on
the other) with control-tab. Another way of saying this is if you find
yourself overwhelmed by all the tab sequencing, as I do, just press
control-tab and you should be at the start of the library. Keep tabbing from
there perhaps three times, and a list should appear.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:00 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I eventually
got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my steps!  I kind of
like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the tracks right out of the
box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it, you have to set it up to do
it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as to tell me how to search for
these tracks (would they be in the WMP library) it would be most
appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if 
 there is one.
 that or the various, or the unknown artist.
 When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are 
 multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 
 versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because 
 track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
 One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
 bb
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
 Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up 
 getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had 
 this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
 the
 MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

 On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media 
 Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  
 My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!
 There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ 
 of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from 
 Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have to go 
 through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that some of 
 you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media player (I 
 forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when 
 you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you rip it again 
 until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me 
 the most direct root to get to the Windows Media library; then to 
 get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
 Many thanks!
 Tom Kaufman
 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 --
 Christopher (CJ)
 chaltain at Gmail

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need forproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
In sweden the match begins at 8.45 pm.
Thats 7.45 pm in london.
/A
On 2012-06-13 10:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:
I found the site OK and Euro 2012. Now I would like to listen live to 
the Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time. 
Also do I just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the 
match as I found a link saying listen but I did not find a link saying 
listen live, maybe I needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.


Eleaor
- Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek 
prateek.duj...@intel.com

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need 
forproxy servers or VPN




Hi gang.

Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find 
that espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every 
single match for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC. 
this is awesome!!! and for blind people like me, radio commentary is 
way way better compared to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play 
by play.


so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go 
down a couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen 
live button.


Hurrah!!!
Prateek


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need forproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Dujari, Prateek
Here is the direct page for ESPN radio's Euro 2012 live commentary page. If u 
just go to espnradio.com and hit the listen live link there it streams other 
live content and not the Euro matches. So bookmark the below Url. At the below 
page find the heading Euro 2012 and right below it is the listen link. 
CET or Central euro time is 9hrs ahead of pacific time in the US, 6 hrs ahead 
of eastern time in the US and as stated below, 1hr ahead of UK time. All 
matches are either at 18.00 CET or 20.45 CET. So for me on the Pacific coast 
time of the US I subtract 9hrs.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/index?topId=8036912 me 

Also find the entire schedule by day at the below URL
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/matches/bymonth/index.html
Prateek

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:40 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need 
forproxy servers or VPN

Hi!
In sweden the match begins at 8.45 pm.
Thats 7.45 pm in london.
/A
On 2012-06-13 10:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 I found the site OK and Euro 2012. Now I would like to listen live to 
 the Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time. 
 Also do I just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the 
 match as I found a link saying listen but I did not find a link saying 
 listen live, maybe I needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.

 Eleaor
 - Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek 
 prateek.duj...@intel.com
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
 Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need 
 forproxy servers or VPN


 Hi gang.

 Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find 
 that espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every 
 single match for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC. 
 this is awesome!!! and for blind people like me, radio commentary is 
 way way better compared to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play 
 by play.

 so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go 
 down a couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen 
 live button.

 Hurrah!!!
 Prateek


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever I 
want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why that CD 
I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to investigate 
further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Update Concerning My Earlier Post Of lLast Night

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hello again list:  I thought I had stumbled upon to something (regarding my 
problem of not ripping all from a CD) in WMP, I found something called Primary 
List it has all the songs listed on the CD I wanted to rip (why I can even 
play them) but the question still remains: why won't my computer (or Windows 
Media) or whatever, rip that track along with a couple of other tracks from the 
CD to my hard drive?  I don't understand!  What am I missing here?
Tom Kaufman
To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any needforproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Hi, what country are you listening to the matches from? In Germany, 
unfortunately, it doesn't work.


And daveproxy is shut down, too.


Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
needforproxy servers or VPN



Here is the direct page for ESPN radio's Euro 2012 live commentary page. 
If u just go to espnradio.com and hit the listen live link there it 
streams other live content and not the Euro matches. So bookmark the below 
Url. At the below page find the heading Euro 2012 and right below it is 
the listen link.
CET or Central euro time is 9hrs ahead of pacific time in the US, 6 hrs 
ahead of eastern time in the US and as stated below, 1hr ahead of UK time. 
All matches are either at 18.00 CET or 20.45 CET. So for me on the Pacific 
coast time of the US I subtract 9hrs.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/index?topId=8036912 me

Also find the entire schedule by day at the below URL
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/matches/bymonth/index.html
Prateek

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg

Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:40 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need 
forproxy servers or VPN


Hi!
In sweden the match begins at 8.45 pm.
Thats 7.45 pm in london.
/A
On 2012-06-13 10:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:

I found the site OK and Euro 2012. Now I would like to listen live to
the Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time.
Also do I just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the
match as I found a link saying listen but I did not find a link saying
listen live, maybe I needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.

Eleaor
- Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek
prateek.duj...@intel.com
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need
forproxy servers or VPN



Hi gang.

Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find
that espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every
single match for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC.
this is awesome!!! and for blind people like me, radio commentary is
way way better compared to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play
by play.

so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go
down a couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen
live button.

Hurrah!!!
Prateek


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any needforproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Eleanor Burke
I tried the link. It was very strange. When I came below the Euro 2012 it said 
live but gave England V France! I knew this was wrong but I clicked on the link 
and the next page changed to Sweden V Germany! I expected to hear audio but 
none! I have some vision and use Supernova and not Jaws. Then over to the top 
right of that active screen was a link which said something like unable to hear 
sound. I clicked on that and hay presto I got sound. I am not really in to 
football but as my 2 nephews are off to Poland in the morning for the Ireland 
match tomorrow night I thought I might tune in tomorrow evening. Think if you 
have not got the result of the Germany match the site allows for you to listen 
for up to 3 hours but sorry if I have that wrong. I am in London UK.
-Original message-
From: Alexandra Grünauer
Sent:  13/06/2012, 9:24  pm
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
needforproxy servers or VPN


Hi, what country are you listening to the matches from? In Germany, 
unfortunately, it doesn't work.

And daveproxy is shut down, too.


Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
needforproxy servers or VPN


 Here is the direct page for ESPN radio's Euro 2012 live commentary page. 
 If u just go to espnradio.com and hit the listen live link there it 
 streams other live content and not the Euro matches. So bookmark the below 
 Url. At the below page find the heading Euro 2012 and right below it is 
 the listen link.
 CET or Central euro time is 9hrs ahead of pacific time in the US, 6 hrs 
 ahead of eastern time in the US and as stated below, 1hr ahead of UK time. 
 All matches are either at 18.00 CET or 20.45 CET. So for me on the Pacific 
 coast time of the US I subtract 9hrs.
 http://espn.go.com/espnradio/index?topId=8036912 me

 Also find the entire schedule by day at the below URL
 http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/matches/bymonth/index.html
 Prateek

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] 
 On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:40 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need 
 forproxy servers or VPN

 Hi!
 In sweden the match begins at 8.45 pm.
 Thats 7.45 pm in london.
 /A
 On 2012-06-13 10:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 I found the site OK and Euro 2012. Now I would like to listen live to
 the Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time.
 Also do I just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the
 match as I found a link saying listen but I did not find a link saying
 listen live, maybe I needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.

 Eleaor
 - Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek
 prateek.duj...@intel.com
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
 Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need
 forproxy servers or VPN


 Hi gang.

 Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find
 that espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every
 single match for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC.
 this is awesome!!! and for blind people like me, radio commentary is
 way way better compared to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play
 by play.

 so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go
 down a couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen
 live button.

 Hurrah!!!
 Prateek


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that had 
17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name in 
the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory that 
all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your files by 
last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had changes made to 
them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever I 
want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why that 
CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from 

RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any needforproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Dujari, Prateek
US of A


Prateek
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of Alexandra Grünauer
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:24 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
needforproxy servers or VPN

Hi, what country are you listening to the matches from? In Germany, 
unfortunately, it doesn't work.

And daveproxy is shut down, too.


Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
needforproxy servers or VPN


 Here is the direct page for ESPN radio's Euro 2012 live commentary page. 
 If u just go to espnradio.com and hit the listen live link there it 
 streams other live content and not the Euro matches. So bookmark the below 
 Url. At the below page find the heading Euro 2012 and right below it is 
 the listen link.
 CET or Central euro time is 9hrs ahead of pacific time in the US, 6 hrs 
 ahead of eastern time in the US and as stated below, 1hr ahead of UK time. 
 All matches are either at 18.00 CET or 20.45 CET. So for me on the Pacific 
 coast time of the US I subtract 9hrs.
 http://espn.go.com/espnradio/index?topId=8036912 me

 Also find the entire schedule by day at the below URL
 http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/matches/bymonth/index.html
 Prateek

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] 
 On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:40 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need 
 forproxy servers or VPN

 Hi!
 In sweden the match begins at 8.45 pm.
 Thats 7.45 pm in london.
 /A
 On 2012-06-13 10:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 I found the site OK and Euro 2012. Now I would like to listen live to
 the Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time.
 Also do I just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the
 match as I found a link saying listen but I did not find a link saying
 listen live, maybe I needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.

 Eleaor
 - Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek
 prateek.duj...@intel.com
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
 Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need
 forproxy servers or VPN


 Hi gang.

 Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find
 that espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every
 single match for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC.
 this is awesome!!! and for blind people like me, radio commentary is
 way way better compared to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play
 by play.

 so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go
 down a couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen
 live button.

 Hurrah!!!
 Prateek


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Brett and list:  Based on what knowledge I have (and granted, it's not a 
lot) I've searched for one of the missing tracks from this particular CD, 
using the Windows Search utility; it came up empty!  So I must conclude that 
(for whatever reason) those three tracks did not get ripped..and I still 
have no idea as to why!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman

But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended 
up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've 
had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi Tom et al. Ok. One more shot at this thing and I will step off. If the 
track is miss labeled it might not even have the title or artist correct.
In one of the examples I gave last message. My 17 tracks were ripped 
perfectly. There were 3 tracks I had to hunt down. I finally found them in 
other places 1 of them was labeled as track 1 for the title  and the artist 
was unknown. WMP didn't no what to do with it. Like all ms products it tried 
to think for me and put it in the unknown folder under an album folder 
called unknown album followd by a random number or maybe it was the current 
date. There were a few tracks there from a few different discs btw.
So why did this happen? Well when I removed the cd from my library and 
atempted to rip it again i used the search for cd information on the context 
menu of the cd name. I was presented with an edit box to either search or a 
place to manually type in any information. I did a search and sure enough my 
album was listed 4 different ways. Only 1 of these listings had the same 
number of tracks mine did, which again was 20, the other album listings only 
had 17 tracks.
So, armed with this information I hope it helps you im one way or another. 
Another option of course is to use the search for information and go to the 
edit link to manually edit the track names and such. Then re-rip the cd with 
your new info added.
The good thing about wmp, not to say anything about any other program is 
that it's fast, usually makes a good rip, puts proper tags (when it can find 
them) and names the files accordingly. Again I know many other programs do 
this too but For now I'm sticking with wmp.
And again I will stress, no program I have found yet can tag mp3s like 
winamp. I am amazed sometimes how with little information that sucker can 
tell you what it is.

Good luck and I'll shut up now.
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder 
called unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. 
I have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP 
took the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. 
When I saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that 
album. Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it 
was my missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different 
album name in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but 
going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also 

Playing internet radio streams in foobar 2000

2012-06-13 Thread Sunshine
How can a person play radio stations in foobar 2000?
Please let me know thanks.


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The only other thing I'd suggest is trying to rerip it with another CD
ripper, and see if that has any better luck. I know I use WMP first, but
if WMP has any problems then I try CDEX to see if that does any better.
For example, the other day I ripped a Gaelic Storm CD, and WMP didn't
come up with the tags, so I ripped it with CDEX, which didn't have any
problems finding the right tag information.

On 13/06/12 19:23, Brett Boyer wrote:
 Hi Tom et al. Ok. One more shot at this thing and I will step off. If
 the track is miss labeled it might not even have the title or artist
 correct.
 In one of the examples I gave last message. My 17 tracks were ripped
 perfectly. There were 3 tracks I had to hunt down. I finally found them
 in other places 1 of them was labeled as track 1 for the title  and the
 artist was unknown. WMP didn't no what to do with it. Like all ms
 products it tried to think for me and put it in the unknown folder under
 an album folder called unknown album followd by a random number or maybe
 it was the current date. There were a few tracks there from a few
 different discs btw.
 So why did this happen? Well when I removed the cd from my library and
 atempted to rip it again i used the search for cd information on the
 context menu of the cd name. I was presented with an edit box to either
 search or a place to manually type in any information. I did a search
 and sure enough my album was listed 4 different ways. Only 1 of these
 listings had the same number of tracks mine did, which again was 20, the
 other album listings only had 17 tracks.
 So, armed with this information I hope it helps you im one way or
 another. Another option of course is to use the search for information
 and go to the edit link to manually edit the track names and such. Then
 re-rip the cd with your new info added.
 The good thing about wmp, not to say anything about any other program is
 that it's fast, usually makes a good rip, puts proper tags (when it can
 find them) and names the files accordingly. Again I know many other
 programs do this too but For now I'm sticking with wmp.
 And again I will stress, no program I have found yet can tag mp3s like
 winamp. I am amazed sometimes how with little information that sucker
 can tell you what it is.
 Good luck and I'll shut up now.
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]
 
 
 But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped
 that had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different
 folder called unknown.
 I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album
 directory. I have found a few stray tracks in other places in these
 folders.
 WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing
 information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP
 took the song and made a new directory and put that one track in
 there. When I saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I
 didn't own that album. Sure enough when I went to see what was inside
 the directory it was my missing track sitting there by itself with a
 totally different album name in the tag.
 So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music
 directory that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try
 sorting your files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what
 folders have had changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.
 Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your
 hair.
 good luck
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to
 My Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go
 if I've ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it
 to wherever I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still
 don't know why that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the
 tracks!  Will have to investigate further!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use
 windows explorer to see where my files have gone.
 hth
 bb
 

Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without anyneedforproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer

Thanks, Eleanor,

will try that. Does Five Live do a commentary, too? It's obviously nott 
accessible for me either except with a proxy which I haven't got. But since 
there was no signal when I checked, I supposed they'd broadcast, too. Don't 
they do all matches like they used to?


Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without 
anyneedforproxy servers or VPN



I tried the link. It was very strange. When I came below the Euro 2012 it 
said live but gave England V France! I knew this was wrong but I clicked on 
the link and the next page changed to Sweden V Germany! I expected to hear 
audio but none! I have some vision and use Supernova and not Jaws. Then 
over to the top right of that active screen was a link which said something 
like unable to hear sound. I clicked on that and hay presto I got sound. I 
am not really in to football but as my 2 nephews are off to Poland in the 
morning for the Ireland match tomorrow night I thought I might tune in 
tomorrow evening. Think if you have not got the result of the Germany match 
the site allows for you to listen for up to 3 hours but sorry if I have 
that wrong. I am in London UK.

-Original message-
From: Alexandra Grünauer
Sent:  13/06/2012, 9:24  pm
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
needforproxy servers or VPN



Hi, what country are you listening to the matches from? In Germany,
unfortunately, it doesn't work.

And daveproxy is shut down, too.


Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any
needforproxy servers or VPN



Here is the direct page for ESPN radio's Euro 2012 live commentary page.
If u just go to espnradio.com and hit the listen live link there it
streams other live content and not the Euro matches. So bookmark the 
below

Url. At the below page find the heading Euro 2012 and right below it is
the listen link.
CET or Central euro time is 9hrs ahead of pacific time in the US, 6 hrs
ahead of eastern time in the US and as stated below, 1hr ahead of UK 
time.
All matches are either at 18.00 CET or 20.45 CET. So for me on the 
Pacific

coast time of the US I subtract 9hrs.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/index?topId=8036912 me

Also find the entire schedule by day at the below URL
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/matches/bymonth/index.html
Prateek

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:40 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
need

forproxy servers or VPN

Hi!
In sweden the match begins at 8.45 pm.
Thats 7.45 pm in london.
/A
On 2012-06-13 10:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:

I found the site OK and Euro 2012. Now I would like to listen live to
the Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time.
Also do I just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the
match as I found a link saying listen but I did not find a link saying
listen live, maybe I needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.

Eleaor
- Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek
prateek.duj...@intel.com
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need
forproxy servers or VPN



Hi gang.

Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find
that espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every
single match for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC.
this is awesome!!! and for blind people like me, radio commentary is
way way better compared to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play
by play.

so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go
down a couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen
live button.

Hurrah!!!
Prateek


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org 



To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without anyneedforproxy servers or VPN

2012-06-13 Thread Eleanor Burke
Yes they do.
-Original message-
From: Alexandra Grünauer
Sent:  14/06/2012, 5:51  am
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without 
anyneedforproxy servers or VPN


Thanks, Eleanor,

will try that. Does Five Live do a commentary, too? It's obviously nott 
accessible for me either except with a proxy which I haven't got. But since 
there was no signal when I checked, I supposed they'd broadcast, too. Don't 
they do all matches like they used to?

Alexandra
- Original Message - 
From: Eleanor Burke eleanorbu...@btinternet.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without 
anyneedforproxy servers or VPN


I tried the link. It was very strange. When I came below the Euro 2012 it 
said live but gave England V France! I knew this was wrong but I clicked on 
the link and the next page changed to Sweden V Germany! I expected to hear 
audio but none! I have some vision and use Supernova and not Jaws. Then 
over to the top right of that active screen was a link which said something 
like unable to hear sound. I clicked on that and hay presto I got sound. I 
am not really in to football but as my 2 nephews are off to Poland in the 
morning for the Ireland match tomorrow night I thought I might tune in 
tomorrow evening. Think if you have not got the result of the Germany match 
the site allows for you to listen for up to 3 hours but sorry if I have 
that wrong. I am in London UK.
 -Original message-
 From: Alexandra Grünauer
 Sent:  13/06/2012, 9:24  pm
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
 needforproxy servers or VPN


 Hi, what country are you listening to the matches from? In Germany,
 unfortunately, it doesn't work.

 And daveproxy is shut down, too.


 Alexandra
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:02 PM
 Subject: RE: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any
 needforproxy servers or VPN


 Here is the direct page for ESPN radio's Euro 2012 live commentary page.
 If u just go to espnradio.com and hit the listen live link there it
 streams other live content and not the Euro matches. So bookmark the 
 below
 Url. At the below page find the heading Euro 2012 and right below it is
 the listen link.
 CET or Central euro time is 9hrs ahead of pacific time in the US, 6 hrs
 ahead of eastern time in the US and as stated below, 1hr ahead of UK 
 time.
 All matches are either at 18.00 CET or 20.45 CET. So for me on the 
 Pacific
 coast time of the US I subtract 9hrs.
 http://espn.go.com/espnradio/index?topId=8036912 me

 Also find the entire schedule by day at the below URL
 http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/matches/bymonth/index.html
 Prateek

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:40 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any 
 need
 forproxy servers or VPN

 Hi!
 In sweden the match begins at 8.45 pm.
 Thats 7.45 pm in london.
 /A
 On 2012-06-13 10:42, Eleanor Burke wrote:
 I found the site OK and Euro 2012. Now I would like to listen live to
 the Ireland match tomorrow night but I do not know the time UK time.
 Also do I just click on the Euro 2012 when I know the time of the
 match as I found a link saying listen but I did not find a link saying
 listen live, maybe I needed to click on the Euro 2012 link first.

 Eleaor
 - Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek
 prateek.duj...@intel.com
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:31 PM
 Subject: Listen to live radio commentary of Euro 2012 without any need
 forproxy servers or VPN


 Hi gang.

 Recent discussion on this topic led me to research further and I find
 that espnradio.com is broadcasting live radio commentary of every
 single match for free!!! Just like they did for the last FIFA WC.
 this is awesome!!! and for blind people like me, radio commentary is
 way way better compared to live TV commentary which doesn't do a play
 by play.

 so go to espnradio.com, use your screen reader's keystrokes to go
 down a couple of headings, find, the euro 2012 and hit the listen
 live button.

 Hurrah!!!
 Prateek


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org

 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org


 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
 pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org