Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get Winamp Pro?was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013
I've never tried Fubar. - Original Message - From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:05 AM Subject: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get Winamp Pro?was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013 Hi. Here's something I'm curious about. What happens to the Ninite update for Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site? I wonder if that method of updating Winamp will still work. I'm going to grab the installer for Winamp 5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working. Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY kmi...@windstream.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get Winamp Pro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013
think about it mate, when wibnamp shuts down, no more winamp updates. You'll just have to keep using the version you have now forever, or until there's a version of windows that no longer supports winamp, and the next version won't be out until at least 2015. I'd not upgrade then, until the bugs are out, so another 4 or 5 years of winamp use shall be yours. On 11/21/2013 12:05 AM, Kevin Minor wrote: Hi. Here's something I'm curious about. What happens to the Ninite update for Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site? I wonder if that method of updating Winamp will still work. I'm going to grab the installer for Winamp 5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working. Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY kmi...@windstream.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: players that use shoutcast
More info on where to find the movies? Are they religious related? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:41 PM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies. It would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back a specific archived file at a specific time? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM Subject: players that use shoutcast Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will allow me to schedule a start time? *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
re ashes coverage
Hi, for anybody in the united kingdom, they are repeating the whole of each day on sports extra the next day. at eleven o'clock mid morning. brian. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
DVDS on your Windows7 computer?
Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular to how iTunes does for your music CDS? I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it. Thanks very much for any help! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Yes I can understand where you're coming from there, iTunes is not my main player, I use VLC to play CD'S and just about everything else given that VLC allows for better quality audio as it uses its own audio decoders and encoders, can easily play a wider variety of formats etc. Where itunes comes into its own is - as I think you were illuding to - its online integration with the store, Internet Radio, I use the Match and iTunes radio music services often and so forth. It used to be that earlier versions of iTunes supported external plug-ins , at one time you could play FLAC format etc with iTunes but that ability seems to have gone which is a shame, guess the only saving grace that FLAC - being a lossless audio format - can be converted to Lossless M$a format which iTunes will play happily. On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:55 am, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Yes iTunes works brilliantly under Windows now than it ever has. I just do not use it as a player but rather as an online catalogue for anything audio and to import CDs which I later play in Winamp. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 21/11/2013 20:39, Dane Trethowan wrote: No problem! Up until recently I wouldn't have even suggested Windows users look at iTunes but we've come a long way in a very short time, access has improved a hundred fold, interface has been cleaned up and so on. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:12 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams. You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser. On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile:
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Dane thinks that all anyone needs is what he needs. I wrote to the list a few months ago asking for a portable recorder that could append and overwrite, and he unhelpfully wrote back that I don't need those features. Apparently he didn't communicate this pearl of wisdom to the makers of ProTools, Sonar, Sound Forge, or any other professional recorder since they all include the ability to append, punch in etc. If only they knew he didn't need these things, they could have saved a lot of time. But if you can get beyond hissnarky attitude, he actually does make some valid points in that post. Total Recorder is an excellent alternative player, and it only costs I think $12 for the standard edition. VLC plays more filetypes than Winamp. I always keep a copy on my system, and whenever I have a file no other player will play, VLC seems to do it. And just because Winamp won't be updated doesn't mean we have to stop using it any time soon. In fact, even newer filetypes might be playable if someone made a plug-in. A couple other good things about Winamp. The Pacemaker plug-in that allows you to change the pitch and/or tempo of a file. I also have a script for customizable rewind and fast forward that allows me to easily jump back and forth by increments of any size from a couple seconds to several minutes by just hitting control plus left or right arrow. Foobar2000 is pretty good. I can't stand iTunes. If I didn't have an iPod touch, I wouldn't even have that piece of junk on my PC, although it's not terrible with the blindTunes scripts if you have JFW. - Original Message - From: goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
I'm missing something here, what have portable recorders and so on got to do with Winamp? On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:06 am, Dave Scrimenti dscrime...@comcast.net wrote: Dane thinks that all anyone needs is what he needs. I wrote to the list a few months ago asking for a portable recorder that could append and overwrite, and he unhelpfully wrote back that I don't need those features. Apparently he didn't communicate this pearl of wisdom to the makers of ProTools, Sonar, Sound Forge, or any other professional recorder since they all include the ability to append, punch in etc. If only they knew he didn't need these things, they could have saved a lot of time. But if you can get beyond hissnarky attitude, he actually does make some valid points in that post. Total Recorder is an excellent alternative player, and it only costs I think $12 for the standard edition. VLC plays more filetypes than Winamp. I always keep a copy on my system, and whenever I have a file no other player will play, VLC seems to do it. And just because Winamp won't be updated doesn't mean we have to stop using it any time soon. In fact, even newer filetypes might be playable if someone made a plug-in. A couple other good things about Winamp. The Pacemaker plug-in that allows you to change the pitch and/or tempo of a file. I also have a script for customizable rewind and fast forward that allows me to easily jump back and forth by increments of any size from a couple seconds to several minutes by just hitting control plus left or right arrow. Foobar2000 is pretty good. I can't stand iTunes. If I didn't have an iPod touch, I wouldn't even have that piece of junk on my PC, although it's not terrible with the blindTunes scripts if you have JFW. - Original Message - From: goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re:
Itunes
The last message from Chris got me wondering, what do people think of iTunes match? I use it here all the time and have found it very useful and not just for syncing my music library between 5 computers and 3 IOS devices. Some time ago I was sampling some LP records, I scanned the covers and entered the track names into iTunes, Itunes match then provided me with 256 AAC+ versions of the songs i'd sampled, thought that was rather neat and just showed me that I'd wasted hours of time given that the AAC+ versions were far better quality than anything I could have done smile. You can use iTunes Match with iTunes Radio, this service is very similar to spotify in the way it works. The basic iTunes Radio is supported by advertising and is free but if you subscribe to iTunes match the advertising goes away and you can search/play to your hearts content and purchase where appropriate, if you think your Match subscription is enough then just search for what you want and add it to a playlist for playing at your leisure. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote Database for tagging.. -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so much ado about nothing smile. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Many folks do find it difficult ploughing through all the crap on web sites to find stuff. -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:01 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and you'll find it most rewarding. On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not all of us like spending hours looking stuff up. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to
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Gracenote is found in many different Media Players including iTunes. On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:23 am, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote: Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote Database for tagging.. -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so much ado about nothing smile. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are
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It has nothing to do with Winamp per se. It was simply an example of your generally dismissive attitude of the needs of others on the list. As I said, you made some good points in that post, but in such a sarcastic, condescending manner, the reader might overlook them. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:15 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp I'm missing something here, what have portable recorders and so on got to do with Winamp? On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:06 am, Dave Scrimenti dscrime...@comcast.net wrote: Dane thinks that all anyone needs is what he needs. I wrote to the list a few months ago asking for a portable recorder that could append and overwrite, and he unhelpfully wrote back that I don't need those features. Apparently he didn't communicate this pearl of wisdom to the makers of ProTools, Sonar, Sound Forge, or any other professional recorder since they all include the ability to append, punch in etc. If only they knew he didn't need these things, they could have saved a lot of time. But if you can get beyond hissnarky attitude, he actually does make some valid points in that post. Total Recorder is an excellent alternative player, and it only costs I think $12 for the standard edition. VLC plays more filetypes than Winamp. I always keep a copy on my system, and whenever I have a file no other player will play, VLC seems to do it. And just because Winamp won't be updated doesn't mean we have to stop using it any time soon. In fact, even newer filetypes might be playable if someone made a plug-in. A couple other good things about Winamp. The Pacemaker plug-in that allows you to change the pitch and/or tempo of a file. I also have a script for customizable rewind and fast forward that allows me to easily jump back and forth by increments of any size from a couple seconds to several minutes by just hitting control plus left or right arrow. Foobar2000 is pretty good. I can't stand iTunes. If I didn't have an iPod touch, I wouldn't even have that piece of junk on my PC, although it's not terrible with the blindTunes scripts if you have JFW. - Original Message - From: goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not
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I had never paid much attention to this software either, I'm pleasantly surprised at what it can do and it has the power of iTunes in many respects with its playlist functionality and so on. On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:30 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote: To be honest, I haven't looked at Windows Media player lately since I switched over to 7, but I am almost sure that Windows Media _does not_ have a way to advance quickly through a file! If anyone can show me different, I'd be pleased to learn of it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:12 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I'd be very surprised if Windows Media Player didn't have a simple command for that, time to go and look for a list of Windows Media Player keyboard shortcuts. On 21 Nov 2013, at 4:09 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote: Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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URL is? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast Not all. tuesdays are more colorful movies and Fridays are family movies. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:10 AM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast More info on where to find the movies? Are they religious related? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:41 PM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies. It would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back a specific archived file at a specific time? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM Subject: players that use shoutcast Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will allow me to schedule a start time? *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
WMP, try ctrl+shift+f. Hold ctrl+shift and keep pressing f. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:34 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player I had never paid much attention to this software either, I'm pleasantly surprised at what it can do and it has the power of iTunes in many respects with its playlist functionality and so on. On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:30 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote: To be honest, I haven't looked at Windows Media player lately since I switched over to 7, but I am almost sure that Windows Media _does not_ have a way to advance quickly through a file! If anyone can show me different, I'd be pleased to learn of it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:12 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I'd be very surprised if Windows Media Player didn't have a simple command for that, time to go and look for a list of Windows Media Player keyboard shortcuts. On 21 Nov 2013, at 4:09 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote: Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Well, I'm not in a position to be able to use an audio system. My PC and the headphones I use to listen to music are my audio system. So the only bass and treble controls I have are in whatever player I use to play music. Hence my concern with an equalizer. I do intend to check out iTunes at some point. I've heard many good things about it, but I'm in no hurry. Unless some new audio format comes along with content that I really really want to listen to, or I get a new PC with an OS that doesn't support Winamp, I think I'll stick with it for a while yet. Evan - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Itunes certainly has an equaliser though I'm not sure how many bands are featured. This is only me but the playing of files and formats and accessibility is more important to me than equalisers, if worst comes to worst and you're into that sort of thing then you can adjust bass and treble controls on your audio system. On 22/11/2013 3:03 AM, Evan Reese wrote: Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer. Evan - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013
Exactly so. It isn't as though Winamp is just going to go poof on December 20. I will find another player eventually, but I expect to be using Winamp for a while, maybe quite a while, after the updates stop. The bookmarks will still work, (they are often the same as those for iTunes anyway), the Gracenotes service will still work, so I can keep ripping CDs. I'm just going to keep using it until I get a compelling reason to change, such as a new PC with an OS that doesn't support it, or some new feature that I just positively must have. Evan - Original Message - From: richard claypool bellevue@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:20 AM Subject: Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013 think about it mate, when wibnamp shuts down, no more winamp updates. You'll just have to keep using the version you have now forever, or until there's a version of windows that no longer supports winamp, and the next version won't be out until at least 2015. I'd not upgrade then, until the bugs are out, so another 4 or 5 years of winamp use shall be yours. On 11/21/2013 12:05 AM, Kevin Minor wrote: Hi. Here's something I'm curious about. What happens to the Ninite update for Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site? I wonder if that method of updating Winamp will still work. I'm going to grab the installer for Winamp 5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working. Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY kmi...@windstream.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
VLC Media Player
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Re: ITunes Player
Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams. You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser. On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: ITunes Player
I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: SpeakOn Media Suite.
Thank you for the heads up Gary. Please all check it out and let us know what you think. We're not asking you to abandon your player of choice; we're just asking you to check it out and maybe you will like it and have it in your arsenal of players. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 21/11/2013 20:13, Gary Price(Gmail) wrote: Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here. I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as an alternative to Winamp. This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do lots of things. Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK magazines, subscription to this is required!. Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is required. I am not sure how much these two services are though. Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio. Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up the tracks on the Internet. If you want to find out more or download it, go to: www.speakon.org.uk Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind. Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work. If anyone wants to contact me offlist, my E-mail address is: gazwpr...@gmail.com I hope you like this free player. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: players that use shoutcast
shoutcast is used for broadcasting streams over the internet. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:19 PM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast hi friends, what is this shoutcast? On 11/21/13, Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net wrote: I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies. It would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back a specific archived file at a specific time? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM Subject: players that use shoutcast Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will allow me to schedule a start time? *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Itunes certainly has an equaliser though I'm not sure how many bands are featured. This is only me but the playing of files and formats and accessibility is more important to me than equalisers, if worst comes to worst and you're into that sort of thing then you can adjust bass and treble controls on your audio system. On 22/11/2013 3:03 AM, Evan Reese wrote: Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer. Evan - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: players that use shoutcast
VLC supports this. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:54 am, Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net wrote: shoutcast is used for broadcasting streams over the internet. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:19 PM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast hi friends, what is this shoutcast? On 11/21/13, Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net wrote: I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies. It would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back a specific archived file at a specific time? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM Subject: players that use shoutcast Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will allow me to schedule a start time? *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Other rippers use GraceNote. I’m an iTunes man lately but I don’t think GraceNote is depending on Winamp so you should be able to find other means of accessing tag info. On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote: Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote Database for tagging.. -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so much ado about nothing smile. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Well done sir, I know exactly how you feel. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:46 am, Kevin Cussick the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com wrote: Sense at last well put. sick of this trash about win amp cluttering my inbox. can't wait till 20th DEC. On 21/11/2013 16:18, Dane Trethowan wrote: Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
iTunes
Speaking of iTunes, if anyone's interested in finding out more then you can purchase some excellent tutorials on iTunes, one is called Take Control of iTunes, not sure if a Windows version is available but a version for the Mac certainly is and iTunes for Mac and Windows are very similar. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:13 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Thanks. - Original Message - From: Evan Reese ment...@dslextreme.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Yes you can. I don't have iTunes myself, but I've been to sites that have links to listen to streams that are marked iTunes and (often) Winamp, both mentioned for the same stream. For example, you can set your Shoutcast streams to play in iTunes. Sometimes they're mentioned in separate links, but it's the same address. For instance, The Legend Oldies has a link to listen in Winamp and another for iTunes, but they're the same stream. I know because when I click on the link to play the iTunes stream, it plays in Winamp, and the bookmark is the same address. Evan - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:09 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not all of us like spending hours looking stuff up. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Some Media Players use Music Brains, CDDB or both but not all use Gracenote, the reason being that Gracenote charge for their database. On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:35 am, Bradford Trainham bradford.train...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Other rippers use GraceNote. I’m an iTunes man lately but I don’t think GraceNote is depending on Winamp so you should be able to find other means of accessing tag info. On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote: Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote Database for tagging.. -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so much ado about nothing smile. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this
Re: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?
You can rip a DVD into a variety of video formats or to mp3 using the free program Freemake Video Converter. Get it at: www.freemake.com Dean -Original Message- From: Vicky Vaughan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:17 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: DVDS on your Windows7 computer? Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular to how iTunes does for your music CDS? I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it. Thanks very much for any help! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Enough Has Been Said
Ladies and gentlemen, I think more than enough has been said on the Winamp issue. People are leaving the list and I'm getting complaints about all the unnecessary messages. Also, If there's any more sniping at each other I will ban the offenders from the list. Now you see why I try to keep tight control of topics. When I don't, posts go off in all directions. The pc-audio.org domain name and the hosting site for the list both have to be renewed at the end of December. I pay eighty dollars a year to keep this list going and I'm seriously thinking about not renewing for next year. Before posting a message to the list try to keep in mind that there are around five hundred subscribers so be considerate of them and keep posts on topic and do not post personal messages to another person. If you want to make a comment to just one person, send it directly to that person. Me to and thank you messages are usually beneficial to one or two people which means that four hundred ninety eight people consider your message as nothing more than spam. Thank you, Tom To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and you'll find it most rewarding. On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not all of us like spending hours looking stuff up. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
Re: re ashes coverage
That's damn handy to know even for us in Australia as I had to miss some of today's play yesterday. I'm sure the same sort of thing is being done on the ABC Grandstand Digital Radio channel here in Australia though that's only of use if you have a Digital Radio, not sure of streaming arrangements in Australia. On 21/11/2013 10:29 PM, brian parker wrote: Hi, for anybody in the united kingdom, they are repeating the whole of each day on sports extra the next day. at eleven o'clock mid morning. brian. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
And then there's Foobar2000, the developer being an ex Winamp coder and one of the ones who actually did the best of Winamp's work. Lighter in weight than winamp but faster too, if you customize the keyboard shortcuts you have, imho, the best audio player going, and its free. On 11/21/2013 11:18 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so much ado about nothing smile. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp
RE: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?
If you wangt just the audio, then it's very simpal. DVD Audio extractor. Now, if you're going the rout I believe you're going, then you'll have to use something like hand break. This software can lead us to a really off topic and fillisofical discosion, but the point is that this is the kind of program you'll need to do it if it's a movie. It needs to get passed the keys. CD's are simpal enough because thank goodness the RIAA hasn't really locked them down like the MPAA Has movies. I don't know how accessible hand break or it's other bretheren are. This is why I Toons, Windows media plyer, or anny common software wont back up DVDs. Let's be clear here, you just want to back them up and they are ones you bbought. This is why this can get hard core. Because the question can become, come on MPAA, why won't you let us at least back up owr own DVDs we bought to keep them safe? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:17 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: DVDS on your Windows7 computer? Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular to how iTunes does for your music CDS? I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it. Thanks very much for any help! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: SpeakOn Media Suite.
Didn't think it would be long before someone found another something apart from the players we've been discussing smile. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:13 am, Gary Price(Gmail) gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here. I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as an alternative to Winamp. This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do lots of things. Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK magazines, subscription to this is required!. Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is required. I am not sure how much these two services are though. Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio. Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up the tracks on the Internet. If you want to find out more or download it, go to: www.speakon.org.uk Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind. Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work. If anyone wants to contact me offlist, my E-mail address is: gazwpr...@gmail.com I hope you like this free player. -- Gary Price Sent from Thunderbird on desktop. E-mail and Facebook: gazwpr...@gmail.com Skype/MSN: gazwpr...@googlemail.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/gazwprice To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: players that use shoutcast
Not all. tuesdays are more colorful movies and Fridays are family movies. *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:10 AM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast More info on where to find the movies? Are they religious related? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:41 PM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies. It would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. - Original Message - From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back a specific archived file at a specific time? - Original Message - From: Robert Doc Wright To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM Subject: players that use shoutcast Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will allow me to schedule a start time? *** When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: ITunes Player
To be honest, I haven't looked at Windows Media player lately since I switched over to 7, but I am almost sure that Windows Media _does not_ have a way to advance quickly through a file! If anyone can show me different, I'd be pleased to learn of it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:12 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I'd be very surprised if Windows Media Player didn't have a simple command for that, time to go and look for a list of Windows Media Player keyboard shortcuts. On 21 Nov 2013, at 4:09 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote: Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
SpeakOn Media Suite.
Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here. I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as an alternative to Winamp. This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do lots of things. Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK magazines, subscription to this is required!. Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is required. I am not sure how much these two services are though. Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio. Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up the tracks on the Internet. If you want to find out more or download it, go to: www.speakon.org.uk Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind. Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work. If anyone wants to contact me offlist, my E-mail address is: gazwpr...@gmail.com I hope you like this free player. -- Gary Price Sent from Thunderbird on desktop. E-mail and Facebook: gazwpr...@gmail.com Skype/MSN: gazwpr...@googlemail.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/gazwprice To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Yes you can. I don't have iTunes myself, but I've been to sites that have links to listen to streams that are marked iTunes and (often) Winamp, both mentioned for the same stream. For example, you can set your Shoutcast streams to play in iTunes. Sometimes they're mentioned in separate links, but it's the same address. For instance, The Legend Oldies has a link to listen in Winamp and another for iTunes, but they're the same stream. I know because when I click on the link to play the iTunes stream, it plays in Winamp, and the bookmark is the same address. Evan - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:09 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Replay Radio 9 Audio Tutorials
Replay Radio 9 made by applian.com Record internet radio stations, shows and more. Record multiple streams silently in the background known as Direct Download. If direct download method cannot be used then you can use record audio option. Add stations, shows and podcasts via the radio guide to the Replay Radio Schedule. Set recording time and more. Can tell each scheduled event you have to auto convertthe the recording to a format of your choice like mp3, wma and at various bit rates. So many formats to choose from. Can manually set your own schedule without the radio guide if you know the stream URL address. Can listen to your stations and shows if you do not want to record. Built-in tuner. Comes with handy URL Finder tool which will find the hidden URL for your stream. You can use this tool to find hidden stream URLs to then add manually as a scheduled event and to be able to record it. Costs $2.95 per month or $29.95 per year. They are using the subscription model. Replay Radio 9 audio tutorials available. Replay Radio 9 works well with JAWS 14 and NVDA 2013.2. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7178104/Replay%20Radio%209%20Tutorials.zip To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
I don't like spending hours looking stuff up, I do do other things as well. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and you'll find it most rewarding. On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not all of us like spending hours looking stuff up. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday,
The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
I can assure you that iTunes and VLC have Graphic Equalisers in them and I would imagine that Windows Media Player would have similar, some sound cards and the Windows sound system itself usually offer bass and treble controls though how accessible these may be can very much depend on the sound card you're using. Only me of course but when I'm listening through headphones I've certainly never found it necessary to use an equaliser, flat is good enough but I appreciate that everyone is different. On 22/11/2013 3:38 AM, Evan Reese wrote: Well, I'm not in a position to be able to use an audio system. My PC and the headphones I use to listen to music are my audio system. So the only bass and treble controls I have are in whatever player I use to play music. Hence my concern with an equalizer. I do intend to check out iTunes at some point. I've heard many good things about it, but I'm in no hurry. Unless some new audio format comes along with content that I really really want to listen to, or I get a new PC with an OS that doesn't support Winamp, I think I'll stick with it for a while yet. Evan - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Itunes certainly has an equaliser though I'm not sure how many bands are featured. This is only me but the playing of files and formats and accessibility is more important to me than equalisers, if worst comes to worst and you're into that sort of thing then you can adjust bass and treble controls on your audio system. On 22/11/2013 3:03 AM, Evan Reese wrote: Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer. Evan - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12
Restating my questions was RE: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013
Hi. I think people aren't understanding what I'm asking. I know Winamp will keep working after AOL stops supporting it. I have two things I'm wondering about. First, will it still be able to be retrieved from Ninite? When I got the updater for Winamp from Ninite, and I updated Winamp with it, it reported that Winamp was being downloaded. Where is this download coming from? If from the Ninite site, and there isn't any copyright issue with Winamp, then there should be no problem getting it that way. If Ninite is retrieving the update from the Winamp site, then it won't work anymore. Second, does AOL control the database Winamp uses for auto tagging? If not, then this feature should still work. If AOL does control this database, and they consider it a service for Winamp, this feature may not work after December 20. I hope this explains what I'm wondering about. I got the Winamp installer, so if I have to reformat this hard drive I still have a good copy to use to install it. We'll see what happens after December 20. Have a great day, and don't work too hard. Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY kmi...@windstream.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: SpeakOn Media Suite.
and, don't forget MaPlEr, which can rip from CDS, has a talking clock, can record *.mp3 files, convert from format to format, play a few of the formats of files E.G. *.mp3, *.ogg, *.wav, and to check it out, http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php and it is extremely inexpensive to register. -- Curtis Delzer. HS. K 6 V F O San Bernardino, CA. curtis1...@verizon.net skype: curtis1014 On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 07:36:23 +1100 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Didn't think it would be long before someone found another something apart from the players we've been discussing smile. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:13 am, Gary Price(Gmail) gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here. I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as an alternative to Winamp. This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do lots of things. Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK magazines, subscription to this is required!. Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is required. I am not sure how much these two services are though. Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio. Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up the tracks on the Internet. If you want to find out more or download it, go to: www.speakon.org.uk Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind. Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work. If anyone wants to contact me offlist, my E-mail address is: gazwpr...@gmail.com I hope you like this free player. -- Gary Price Sent from Thunderbird on desktop. E-mail and Facebook: gazwpr...@gmail.com Skype/MSN: gazwpr...@googlemail.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/gazwprice To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?
How accessible is this? Can it do Blu-ray Disks too? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dean Masters Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: DVDS on your Windows7 computer? You can rip a DVD into a variety of video formats or to mp3 using the free program Freemake Video Converter. Get it at: www.freemake.com Dean -Original Message- From: Vicky Vaughan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:17 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: DVDS on your Windows7 computer? Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular to how iTunes does for your music CDS? I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it. Thanks very much for any help! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams. You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser. On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Sense at last well put. sick of this trash about win amp cluttering my inbox. can't wait till 20th DEC. On 21/11/2013 16:18, Dane Trethowan wrote: Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio
RE: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013
I'm with Evan on this one; if it's just a matter of them not putting out new versions of Winamp; if we can keep using our current versions as we have, then there's really no problem! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013 Exactly so. It isn't as though Winamp is just going to go poof on December 20. I will find another player eventually, but I expect to be using Winamp for a while, maybe quite a while, after the updates stop. The bookmarks will still work, (they are often the same as those for iTunes anyway), the Gracenotes service will still work, so I can keep ripping CDs. I'm just going to keep using it until I get a compelling reason to change, such as a new PC with an OS that doesn't support it, or some new feature that I just positively must have. Evan - Original Message - From: richard claypool bellevue@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:20 AM Subject: Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013 think about it mate, when wibnamp shuts down, no more winamp updates. You'll just have to keep using the version you have now forever, or until there's a version of windows that no longer supports winamp, and the next version won't be out until at least 2015. I'd not upgrade then, until the bugs are out, so another 4 or 5 years of winamp use shall be yours. On 11/21/2013 12:05 AM, Kevin Minor wrote: Hi. Here's something I'm curious about. What happens to the Ninite update for Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site? I wonder if that method of updating Winamp will still work. I'm going to grab the installer for Winamp 5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working. Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY kmi...@windstream.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer. Evan - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
Thanks. - Original Message - From: Evan Reese ment...@dslextreme.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Yes you can. I don't have iTunes myself, but I've been to sites that have links to listen to streams that are marked iTunes and (often) Winamp, both mentioned for the same stream. For example, you can set your Shoutcast streams to play in iTunes. Sometimes they're mentioned in separate links, but it's the same address. For instance, The Legend Oldies has a link to listen in Winamp and another for iTunes, but they're the same stream. I know because when I click on the link to play the iTunes stream, it plays in Winamp, and the bookmark is the same address. Evan - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:09 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Where do you get Winamp Pro? was RE: Winamp Shutting down onDecember20, 2013
There is iTunes for Windows/Mac. I liked Winamp fine but switched to iTunes about 5 years ago and never went back. On Nov 20, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: I use VLC and works well for me. I'm sure there are thousands of other players out there and I'm equally sure that others on list use other players than Winamp and use them well. On 21 Nov 2013, at 9:23 am, Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net wrote: Tell us what you use and how well does each player work for you. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Where do you get Winamp Pro? was RE: Winamp Shutting down onDecember20, 2013 Don't know what all the big noise is about given that there are plenty of other Media Players out there available free of charge or for next to nothing. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:44 am, Steve Pattison s...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi all, Sorry for the confusion. If you go to www.winamp.com/media-player/all and when you're at the top of that page use your screen reader's find command to search for Winamp.com without the quotes and start reading from there you should find the message about Winamp shutting down. Regarding Winamp Pro the link I gave in my previous version is for the free version of Winamp. However if you've already purchased a serial number for Winamp Pro and entered it into Winamp the latest version will turn into Winamp Pro. It looks like you can no longer buy Winamp pro though. I've been using Winamp Pro since 2004. Regards Steve. On 21/11/2013 8:18 AM, Evan Reese wrote: Don't know. I got mine from their site, but when I went up there just now, (and didn't find anything about anything no longer being available after December 20), I did however find that the Winamp Pro store is no longer available. There might be other places to get it though, albeit not the latest version. Mine is version 5.62, but I don't know whether that is the latest Pro version or not. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do this easily, fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
Re: ITunes Player
You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: ITunes Player
No problem! Up until recently I wouldn't have even suggested Windows users look at iTunes but we've come a long way in a very short time, access has improved a hundred fold, interface has been cleaned up and so on. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:12 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams. You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser. On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: data base [was] RE: Winamp Shutting down on December 20, 2013
Doesn’t Winamp use GraceNote? I don’t think it’s part of Winamp as other rippers use it too. On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de wrote: What about the data base? I guess they'll shut it down as well. What other data base except from Itunes and Freecddb can you recommend? Thanks, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of richard claypool Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:27 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Winamp Shutting down on December 20, 2013 I'm sure the auto tag function wi9ll work, since it uses another unrelated service that other systems use. On 11/20/2013 10:24 PM, Kevin Minor wrote: Hi again. Here's something else I'm wondering about, besides where to get Winamp Pro. I wonder if the auto tag function will work after December 20? I hope it will, since I use it to tag songs. I guess we'll see what happens. Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY kmi...@windstream.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
I'm very glad to hear it. On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:07 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: I don't like spending hours looking stuff up, I do do other things as well. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and you'll find it most rewarding. On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not all of us like spending hours looking stuff up. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players. I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too! Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go through all of that looking up stuff. winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, such as mod, xm, s3m for example. I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude. Simon - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored other players. For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts. I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're prepared to take a few moments to customise the software. I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does. The interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit. If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition. And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any audio/video formats that come our way in the future. As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile. On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does? Wil they, for example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle; will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows Media Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't! Can't speak for some of the others as I've not tried them! But this is my concern as I want to be able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the point where I stopped listening later on! If these other players will do
Re: ITunes Player
Yes iTunes works brilliantly under Windows now than it ever has. I just do not use it as a player but rather as an online catalogue for anything audio and to import CDs which I later play in Winamp. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 21/11/2013 20:39, Dane Trethowan wrote: No problem! Up until recently I wouldn't have even suggested Windows users look at iTunes but we've come a long way in a very short time, access has improved a hundred fold, interface has been cleaned up and so on. On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:12 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Thanks. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: ITunes Player Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams. You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser. On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to streams, like you do with Winamp. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: Re: ITunes Player So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing given there are alternatives out there. And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player. On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how accessible it is. People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp. Maybe the reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM Subject: RE: ITunes Player Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one to do things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command as Winamp does! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes Player I hope you enjoy it. I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some strange reason but the software is very accessible. On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access music content on the web with that as a media player? I don't use ITunes yet, but may soon. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Convert .mkv file
I have a .mkv file and want to create an mp3 out of it. I have tried Freemake video converter and Format Factory. both start and convert less than a minute then quit. Can anyone suggest a way I can convert this file? Thanks, Dean To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Convert .mkv file
I put convert mkv mp3 in to startpage and got a lot of results, but don't know which one works best. There are apparently a lot of converters out there though. And of course, you could always just play the file and record it with another program like Total Recorder. - Original Message - From: Dean Masters dwmaster...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:34 PM Subject: Convert .mkv file I have a .mkv file and want to create an mp3 out of it. I have tried Freemake video converter and Format Factory. both start and convert less than a minute then quit. Can anyone suggest a way I can convert this file? Thanks, Dean To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org