Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get Winamp Pro?was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013

2013-11-21 Thread Gary Wood

I've never tried Fubar.
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Hi.

Here's something I'm curious about.  What happens to the Ninite update for
Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site?  I wonder if that method of
updating Winamp will still work.  I'm going to grab the installer for 
Winamp

5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working.

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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Gary Wood
Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know 
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I 
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are 
hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find 
accessible.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to 
do
things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

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Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for 
some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access

music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
yet, but may soon.

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Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get Winamp Pro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013

2013-11-21 Thread richard claypool
think about it mate, when wibnamp shuts down, no more winamp updates.  
You'll just have to keep using the version you have now forever, or 
until there's a version of windows that no longer supports winamp, and 
the next version won't be out until at least 2015.  I'd not upgrade 
then, until the bugs are out, so another 4 or 5 years of winamp use 
shall be yours.

On 11/21/2013 12:05 AM, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

Here's something I'm curious about.  What happens to the Ninite update for
Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site?  I wonder if that method of
updating Winamp will still work.  I'm going to grab the installer for Winamp
5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working.

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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing 
given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how 
 accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't 
 know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are hooked on 
 Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
 yet, but may soon.
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Re: players that use shoutcast

2013-11-21 Thread Petro T. Giannakopoulos
More info on where to find the movies? Are they religious related?


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  Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


  I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies.  It 
  would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me 
  the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it
  ***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
  matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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  Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM
  Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


  If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back a 
  specific archived file at a specific time?



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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM
Subject: players that use shoutcast


Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will 
  allow
me to schedule a start time?
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re ashes coverage

2013-11-21 Thread brian parker
Hi, for  anybody in the united kingdom, they are repeating the whole 
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DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

2013-11-21 Thread Vicky Vaughan
Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular to 
how iTunes does for your music CDS?

I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it.

Thanks very much for any help! Vicky
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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes I can understand where you're coming from there, iTunes is not my main 
player, I use VLC to play CD'S and just about everything else given that VLC 
allows for better quality audio as it uses its own audio decoders and encoders, 
can easily play a wider variety of formats etc.

Where itunes comes into its own is - as I think you were illuding to - its 
online integration with the store, Internet Radio, I use the Match and iTunes 
radio music services often and so forth.

It used to be that earlier versions of iTunes supported external plug-ins , at 
one time you could play FLAC format etc with iTunes but that ability seems to 
have gone which is a shame, guess the only saving grace that FLAC - being a 
lossless audio format - can be converted to Lossless M$a format which iTunes 
will play happily.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:55 am, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes iTunes works brilliantly under Windows now than it ever has. I just do 
 not use it as a player but rather as an online catalogue for anything audio 
 and to import CDs which I later play in Winamp.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 21/11/2013 20:39, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 No problem!
 
 Up until recently I wouldn't have even suggested Windows users look at 
 iTunes but we've come a long way in a very short time, access has improved a 
 hundred fold, interface has been cleaned up and so on.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:12 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Thanks.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams.
 
 You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you 
 need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
 streams, like you do with Winamp.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
 nothing given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
 know how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried 
 it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the 
 reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that 
 people find accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one 
 to do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
 things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio 
 for some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
 ITunes
 yet, but may soon.
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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dave Scrimenti
Dane thinks that all anyone needs is what he needs. I wrote to the list a 
few months ago asking for a portable recorder that could append and 
overwrite, and he unhelpfully wrote back that I don't need those features. 
Apparently he didn't communicate this pearl of wisdom to the makers of 
ProTools, Sonar, Sound Forge, or any other professional recorder since they 
all include the ability to append, punch in etc. If only they knew he didn't 
need these things, they could have saved a lot of time.
But if you can get beyond hissnarky attitude, he actually does make some 
valid points in that post. Total Recorder is an excellent alternative 
player, and it only costs I think $12 for the standard edition. VLC plays 
more filetypes than Winamp. I always keep a copy on my system, and whenever 
I have a file no other player will play, VLC seems to do it. And just 
because Winamp won't be updated doesn't mean we have to stop using it any 
time soon. In fact, even newer filetypes might be playable if someone made a 
plug-in.
A couple other good things about Winamp. The Pacemaker plug-in that allows 
you to change the pitch and/or tempo of a file. I also have a script for 
customizable rewind and fast forward that allows me to easily jump back and 
forth by increments of any size from a couple seconds to several minutes by 
just hitting control plus left or right arrow.
Foobar2000 is pretty good. I can't stand iTunes. If I didn't have an iPod 
touch, I wouldn't even have that piece of junk on my PC, although it's not 
terrible with the blindTunes scripts if you have JFW.
- Original Message - 
From: goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
customizing
stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
were

already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
through all of that looking up stuff.
winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
plus

many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
formats,

such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
like

winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
other players.

For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
be

able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing

given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood 

Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm missing something here, what have portable recorders and so on got to do 
with Winamp?


On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:06 am, Dave Scrimenti dscrime...@comcast.net wrote:

 Dane thinks that all anyone needs is what he needs. I wrote to the list a few 
 months ago asking for a portable recorder that could append and overwrite, 
 and he unhelpfully wrote back that I don't need those features. Apparently he 
 didn't communicate this pearl of wisdom to the makers of ProTools, Sonar, 
 Sound Forge, or any other professional recorder since they all include the 
 ability to append, punch in etc. If only they knew he didn't need these 
 things, they could have saved a lot of time.
 But if you can get beyond hissnarky attitude, he actually does make some 
 valid points in that post. Total Recorder is an excellent alternative player, 
 and it only costs I think $12 for the standard edition. VLC plays more 
 filetypes than Winamp. I always keep a copy on my system, and whenever I have 
 a file no other player will play, VLC seems to do it. And just because Winamp 
 won't be updated doesn't mean we have to stop using it any time soon. In 
 fact, even newer filetypes might be playable if someone made a plug-in.
 A couple other good things about Winamp. The Pacemaker plug-in that allows 
 you to change the pitch and/or tempo of a file. I also have a script for 
 customizable rewind and fast forward that allows me to easily jump back and 
 forth by increments of any size from a couple seconds to several minutes by 
 just hitting control plus left or right arrow.
 Foobar2000 is pretty good. I can't stand iTunes. If I didn't have an iPod 
 touch, I wouldn't even have that piece of junk on my PC, although it's not 
 terrible with the blindTunes scripts if you have JFW.
 - Original Message - From: goshawk on horseback 
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:17 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: 

Itunes

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
The last message from Chris got me wondering, what do people think of iTunes 
match?

I use it here all the time and have found it very useful and not just for 
syncing my music library between 5 computers and 3 IOS devices.

Some time ago I was sampling some LP records, I scanned the covers and entered 
the track names into iTunes, Itunes match then provided me with 256 AAC+ 
versions of the songs i'd sampled, thought that was rather neat and just showed 
me that I'd wasted hours of time given that the AAC+ versions were far better 
quality than anything I could have done smile.

You can use iTunes Match with iTunes Radio, this service is very similar to 
spotify in the way it works.

The basic iTunes Radio is supported by advertising and is free but if you 
subscribe to iTunes match the advertising goes away and you can search/play to 
your hearts content and purchase where appropriate, if you think your Match 
subscription is enough then just search for what you want and add it to a 
playlist for playing at your leisure.



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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Peter Scanlon
Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote 
Database for tagging..




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell 
so much ado about nothing smile.



On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we 
have.
- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.


I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't 
support FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google 
once again smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats 
with the addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the 
mention of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too!


Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much 
ado about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end 
of 20 December just because of the end of Winamp.



On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:


for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
customizing
stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
were
already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to 
go

through all of that looking up stuff.
winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
plus

many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
formats,

such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
like

winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

Simon


- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
other players.

For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the 
middle;

will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
be
able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to 
the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will 
do

this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing

given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 

Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Peter Scanlon
Many folks do find it difficult ploughing through all the crap on web sites 
to find stuff.




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having 
a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and 
you'll find it most rewarding.



On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:



may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us
some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play
many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not
all of us like spending hours looking stuff up.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp
supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.

I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support
FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again
smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
addition
of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of 
Plugins

when it comes to Winamp too!

Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this
discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
like,
it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
product

won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about
nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20
December just because of the end of Winamp.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:


for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and
customizing
stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts
were
already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
through all of that looking up stuff.
winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes,
plus
many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different
formats,
such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who
like
winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
other players.

For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some
of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to
be
able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will 
do

this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to 

Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Gracenote is found in many different Media Players including iTunes.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:23 am, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote 
 Database for tagging..
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so 
 much ado about nothing smile.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
 supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
 
 I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
 FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
 smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
 addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of 
 Plugins when it comes to Winamp too!
 
 Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
 discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, 
 it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product 
 won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about 
 nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 
 December just because of the end of Winamp.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
 plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
 formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing
 given there are 

Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dave Scrimenti
It has nothing to do with Winamp per se. It was simply an example of your 
generally dismissive attitude of the needs of others on the list. As I said, 
you made some good points in that post, but in such a sarcastic, 
condescending manner, the reader might overlook them.
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


I'm missing something here, what have portable recorders and so on got to 
do with Winamp?



On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:06 am, Dave Scrimenti dscrime...@comcast.net wrote:

Dane thinks that all anyone needs is what he needs. I wrote to the list a 
few months ago asking for a portable recorder that could append and 
overwrite, and he unhelpfully wrote back that I don't need those 
features. Apparently he didn't communicate this pearl of wisdom to the 
makers of ProTools, Sonar, Sound Forge, or any other professional 
recorder since they all include the ability to append, punch in etc. If 
only they knew he didn't need these things, they could have saved a lot 
of time.
But if you can get beyond hissnarky attitude, he actually does make some 
valid points in that post. Total Recorder is an excellent alternative 
player, and it only costs I think $12 for the standard edition. VLC plays 
more filetypes than Winamp. I always keep a copy on my system, and 
whenever I have a file no other player will play, VLC seems to do it. And 
just because Winamp won't be updated doesn't mean we have to stop using 
it any time soon. In fact, even newer filetypes might be playable if 
someone made a plug-in.
A couple other good things about Winamp. The Pacemaker plug-in that 
allows you to change the pitch and/or tempo of a file. I also have a 
script for customizable rewind and fast forward that allows me to easily 
jump back and forth by increments of any size from a couple seconds to 
several minutes by just hitting control plus left or right arrow.
Foobar2000 is pretty good. I can't stand iTunes. If I didn't have an iPod 
touch, I wouldn't even have that piece of junk on my PC, although it's 
not terrible with the blindTunes scripts if you have JFW.
- Original Message - From: goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
customizing
stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
were
already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to 
go

through all of that looking up stuff.
winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
plus

many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
formats,

such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
like

winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

Simon


- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
other players.

For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the 
middle;

will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
of
the others as I've not 

Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
I had never paid much attention to this software either, I'm pleasantly 
surprised at what it can do and it has the power of iTunes in many respects 
with its playlist functionality and so on.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:30 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

 To be honest, I haven't looked at Windows Media player lately since I
 switched over to 7, but I am almost sure that Windows Media _does not_ have
 a way to advance quickly through a file!  If anyone can show me different,
 I'd be pleased to learn of it!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:12 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I'd be very surprised if Windows Media Player didn't have a simple command
 for that, time to go and look for a list of Windows Media Player keyboard
 shortcuts.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 4:09 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to
 do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
 things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for
 some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
 yet, but may soon.  
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Re: players that use shoutcast

2013-11-21 Thread Petro T. Giannakopoulos
URL is?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Doc Wright 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:56 PM
  Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


  Not all. tuesdays are more colorful movies and Fridays are family movies.
  ***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
  matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net
  To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:10 AM
  Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


  More info on where to find the movies? Are they religious related?


- Original Message - 
From: Robert Doc Wright
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies.  It
would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me
the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back 
  a
specific archived file at a specific time?



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  To: PC audio discussion list.
  Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM
  Subject: players that use shoutcast


  Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will
allow
  me to schedule a start time?
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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Petro T. Giannakopoulos
WMP, try ctrl+shift+f. Hold ctrl+shift and keep pressing f.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dane Trethowan 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:34 PM
  Subject: Re: ITunes Player


  I had never paid much attention to this software either, I'm pleasantly 
surprised at what it can do and it has the power of iTunes in many respects 
with its playlist functionality and so on.


  On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:30 am, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

   To be honest, I haven't looked at Windows Media player lately since I
   switched over to 7, but I am almost sure that Windows Media _does not_ have
   a way to advance quickly through a file!  If anyone can show me different,
   I'd be pleased to learn of it!
   Tom Kaufman
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
   Trethowan
   Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:12 AM
   To: PC Audio Discussion List
   Subject: Re: ITunes Player
   
   I'd be very surprised if Windows Media Player didn't have a simple command
   for that, time to go and look for a list of Windows Media Player keyboard
   shortcuts.
   
   
   On 21 Nov 2013, at 4:09 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:
   
   Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to
   do
   things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
   command
   as Winamp does!
   Tom Kaufman
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
   Trethowan
   Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
   To: PC Audio Discussion List
   Subject: Re: ITunes Player
   
   I hope you enjoy it.
   
   I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
   things
   I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for
   some
   strange reason but the software is very accessible.
   
   
   On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
   
   Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
   music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
   yet, but may soon.  
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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Evan Reese


Well, I'm not in a position to be able to use an audio system. My PC and 
the headphones I use to listen to music are my audio system. So the only 
bass and treble controls I have are in whatever player I use to play music. 
Hence my concern with an equalizer.


I do intend to check out iTunes at some point. I've heard many good things 
about it, but I'm in no hurry. Unless some new audio format comes along with 
content that I really really want to listen to, or I get a new PC with an OS 
that doesn't support Winamp, I think I'll stick with it for a while yet.


Evan

- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


 Itunes certainly has an equaliser though I'm not sure how many bands are 
featured.


This is only me but the playing of files and formats and accessibility is 
more important to me than equalisers, if worst comes to worst and you're 
into that sort of thing then you can adjust bass and treble controls on 
your audio system.



On 22/11/2013 3:03 AM, Evan Reese wrote:


Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer.
Evan

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows 
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
be

able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will 
do

this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing

given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
know
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so 
I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
are

hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow one 
to

do

things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a

command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

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Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little

things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio 
for

some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you 
access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013

2013-11-21 Thread Evan Reese


Exactly so. It isn't as though Winamp is just going to go poof on December 
20. I will find another player eventually, but I expect to be using Winamp 
for a while, maybe quite a while, after the updates stop. The bookmarks will 
still work, (they are often the same as those for iTunes anyway), the 
Gracenotes service will still work, so I can keep ripping CDs. I'm just 
going to keep using it until I get a compelling reason to change, such as a 
new PC with an OS that doesn't support it, or some new feature that I just 
positively must have.


Evan

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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get 
WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013



think about it mate, when wibnamp shuts down, no more winamp updates. 
You'll just have to keep using the version you have now forever, or until 
there's a version of windows that no longer supports winamp, and the next 
version won't be out until at least 2015.  I'd not upgrade then, until the 
bugs are out, so another 4 or 5 years of winamp use shall be yours.

On 11/21/2013 12:05 AM, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

Here's something I'm curious about.  What happens to the Ninite update 
for

Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site?  I wonder if that method of
updating Winamp will still work.  I'm going to grab the installer for 
Winamp

5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working.

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VLC Media Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Sorry, lost track of my eMail but I think someone was looking for the URL for 
this?
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html 


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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Gary Wood

Thanks.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player



Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams.

You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you 
need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser.



On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
streams, like you do with Winamp.
- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing given there are alternatives out there.


And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
know how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried 
it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the 
reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that 
people find accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one 
to do
things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio 
for some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you 
access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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RE: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Tom Kaufman
I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
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Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing
given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to
do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
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 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for
some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
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Re: SpeakOn Media Suite.

2013-11-21 Thread Chris H
Thank you for the heads up Gary. Please all check it out and let us know 
what you think. We're not asking you to abandon your player of choice; 
we're just asking you to check it out and maybe you will like it and 
have it in your arsenal of players.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 21/11/2013 20:13, Gary Price(Gmail) wrote:

Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here.

I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as
an alternative to Winamp.

This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do
lots of things.
Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK
magazines, subscription to this is required!.
Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is
required. I am not sure how much these two services are though.

Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio.
Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up
the tracks on the Internet.

If you want to find out more or download it, go to:
www.speakon.org.uk

Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind.
Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work.

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gazwpr...@gmail.com

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Re: players that use shoutcast

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Doc Wright
shoutcast is used for broadcasting streams over the internet.
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From: shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


hi friends, what is this shoutcast?

On 11/21/13, Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net wrote:
 I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies.  It
 would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me
 the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it
 ***
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM
 Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


 If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back 
 a

 specific archived file at a specific time?



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   To: PC audio discussion list.
   Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM
   Subject: players that use shoutcast


   Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will
 allow
   me to schedule a start time?
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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
 Itunes certainly has an equaliser though I'm not sure how many bands 
are featured.


This is only me but the playing of files and formats and accessibility 
is more important to me than equalisers, if worst comes to worst and 
you're into that sort of thing then you can adjust bass and treble 
controls on your audio system.



On 22/11/2013 3:03 AM, Evan Reese wrote:


Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer.
Evan

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows 
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for 
some of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want 
to be

able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players 
will do

this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing

given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
know
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, 
so I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
are

hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow 
one to

do

things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a

command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little

things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio 
for

some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you 
access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

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Re: players that use shoutcast

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
VLC supports this.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:54 am, Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net wrote:

 shoutcast is used for broadcasting streams over the internet.
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 - Original Message - 
 From: shyam sharma shyam371...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:19 PM
 Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast
 
 
 hi friends, what is this shoutcast?
 
 On 11/21/13, Robert Doc Wright godfea...@wrighthere.net wrote:
 I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies.  It
 would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me
 the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it
 ***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM
 Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast
 
 
 If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back 
 a
 
 specific archived file at a specific time?
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Robert Doc Wright
  To: PC audio discussion list.
  Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM
  Subject: players that use shoutcast
 
 
  Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will
 allow
  me to schedule a start time?
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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Bradford Trainham
Other rippers use GraceNote. I’m an iTunes man lately but I don’t think 
GraceNote is depending on Winamp so you should be able to find other means of 
accessing tag info.
On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote 
 Database for tagging..
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so 
 much ado about nothing smile.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
 supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
 
 I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
 FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
 smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
 addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of 
 Plugins when it comes to Winamp too!
 
 Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
 discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, 
 it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product 
 won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about 
 nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 
 December just because of the end of Winamp.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
 plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
 formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes 

Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well done sir, I know exactly how you feel.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:46 am, Kevin Cussick 
the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Sense at last well put. sick of this trash about win amp cluttering my inbox. 
 can't wait till 20th DEC.
 
 On 21/11/2013 16:18, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for
 some of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want
 to be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about
 nothing
 given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't
 know
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it,
 so I
 don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
 hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow
 one to
 do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
 things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for
 some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use
 ITunes
 yet, but may soon.
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iTunes

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Speaking of iTunes, if anyone's interested in finding out more then you can 
purchase some excellent tutorials on iTunes, one is called Take Control of 
iTunes, not sure if a Windows version is available but a version for the Mac 
certainly is and iTunes for Mac and Windows are very similar.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:13 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Thanks.
 - Original Message - From: Evan Reese ment...@dslextreme.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 
 Yes you can. I don't have iTunes myself, but I've been to sites that have 
 links to listen to streams that are marked iTunes and (often) Winamp, both 
 mentioned for the same stream. For example, you can set your Shoutcast 
 streams to play in iTunes. Sometimes they're mentioned in separate links, 
 but it's the same address. For instance, The Legend Oldies has a link to 
 listen in Winamp and another for iTunes, but they're the same stream. I know 
 because when I click on the link to play the iTunes stream, it plays in 
 Winamp, and the bookmark is the same address.
 
 Evan
 
 - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:09 PM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
 streams, like you do with Winamp.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing 
 given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know 
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so 
 I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
 are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people 
 find accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to 
 do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
 things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for 
 some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
 yet, but may soon.
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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread goshawk on horseback
may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us 
some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play 
many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not 
all of us like spending hours looking stuff up.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.

I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition 
of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins 
when it comes to Winamp too!

Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, 
it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product 
won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about 
nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 
December just because of the end of Winamp.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
 customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
 were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
 plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
 formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
 like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

 Simon


 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.

 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
 of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
 be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player

 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
 nothing
 given there are alternatives out there.

 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
 know
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so 
 I
 don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
 hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp 

Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Some Media Players use Music Brains, CDDB or both but not all use Gracenote, 
the reason being that Gracenote charge for their database.

On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:35 am, Bradford Trainham bradford.train...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:

 Other rippers use GraceNote. I’m an iTunes man lately but I don’t think 
 GraceNote is depending on Winamp so you should be able to find other means of 
 accessing tag info.
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote 
 Database for tagging..
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell 
 so much ado about nothing smile.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
 supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
 
 I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
 FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
 smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
 addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention 
 of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too!
 
 Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
 discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
 like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
 product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado 
 about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 
 20 December just because of the end of Winamp.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
 customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
 were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
 plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
 formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
 like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
 of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
 be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this 

Re: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

2013-11-21 Thread Dean Masters
You can rip a DVD into a variety of video formats or to mp3 using the free 
program Freemake Video Converter. Get it at:


www.freemake.com

Dean


-Original Message- 
From: Vicky Vaughan

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:17 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular 
to how iTunes does for your music CDS?


I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it.

Thanks very much for any help! Vicky
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Enough Has Been Said

2013-11-21 Thread Tom

Ladies and gentlemen,

I think more than enough has been said on the Winamp issue.
People are leaving the list and I'm getting complaints about
all the unnecessary messages. Also, If there's any more
sniping at each other I will ban the offenders from the list.
Now you see why I try to keep tight control of topics. When I
don't, posts go off in all directions.

The pc-audio.org domain name and the hosting site for the
list both have to be renewed at the end of December. I pay
eighty dollars a year to keep this list going and I'm
seriously thinking about not renewing for next year.

Before posting a message to the list try to keep in mind that
there are around five hundred subscribers so be considerate
of them and keep posts on topic and do not post personal
messages to another person. If you want to make a comment to
just one person, send it directly to that person. Me to and
thank you messages are usually beneficial to one or two
people which means that four hundred ninety eight people
consider your message as nothing more than spam.

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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having a 
go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and you'll 
find it most rewarding.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

 may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us 
 some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play 
 many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not 
 all of us like spending hours looking stuff up.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
 supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
 
 I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
 FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
 smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition 
 of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins 
 when it comes to Winamp too!
 
 Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
 discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, 
 it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product 
 won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about 
 nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 
 December just because of the end of Winamp.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
 customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
 were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
 plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
 formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
 like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
 of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
 be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
 nothing
 given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 

Re: re ashes coverage

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
That's damn handy to know even for us in Australia as I had to miss some 
of today's play yesterday.


I'm sure the same sort of thing is being done on the ABC Grandstand 
Digital Radio channel here in Australia though that's only of use if you 
have a Digital Radio, not sure of streaming arrangements in Australia.



On 21/11/2013 10:29 PM, brian parker wrote:
Hi, for  anybody in the united kingdom, they are repeating the whole 
of each day on sports extra the next day. at eleven o'clock mid 
morning. brian.



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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Nick Giannak
And then there's Foobar2000, the developer being an ex Winamp coder and 
one of the ones who actually did the best of Winamp's work. Lighter in 
weight than winamp but faster too, if you customize the keyboard 
shortcuts you have, imho, the best audio player going, and its free.

On 11/21/2013 11:18 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and 
explored other players.


For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard 
Shortcuts using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard 
shortcuts.


I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're 
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.


I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The 
interface is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.


If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of 
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever 
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player 
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.


And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then 
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they 
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play 
any audio/video formats that come our way in the future.


As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.



On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? Windows 
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for 
some of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want 
to be

able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players 
will do

this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing

given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
know
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, 
so I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
are

hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow 
one to

do

things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a

command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little

things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio 
for

some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you 
access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell so 
much ado about nothing smile.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
 supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
 
 I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
 FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
 smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition 
 of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins 
 when it comes to Winamp too!
 
 Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
 discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, 
 it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product 
 won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about 
 nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 
 December just because of the end of Winamp.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing
 given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I
 don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
 hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp 

RE: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

2013-11-21 Thread Hamit Campos
If you wangt just the audio, then it's very simpal. DVD Audio extractor.
Now, if you're going the rout I believe you're going, then you'll have to
use something like hand break. This software can lead us to a really off
topic and fillisofical discosion, but the point is that this is the kind of
program you'll need to do it if it's a movie. It needs to get passed the
keys. CD's are simpal enough because thank goodness the RIAA hasn't really
locked them down like the MPAA Has movies. I don't know how accessible hand
break or it's other bretheren are. This is why I Toons, Windows media plyer,
or anny common software wont back up DVDs. Let's be clear here, you just
want to back them up and they are ones you bbought. This is why this can get
hard core. Because the question can become, come on MPAA, why won't you let
us at least back up owr own DVDs we bought to keep them safe?
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vicky
Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:17 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular
to how iTunes does for your music CDS?

I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it.

Thanks very much for any help! Vicky
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Re: SpeakOn Media Suite.

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Didn't think it would be long before someone found another something apart from 
the players we've been discussing smile.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:13 am, Gary Price(Gmail) gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here.
 
 I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as an 
 alternative to Winamp.
 
 This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do lots of 
 things.
 Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK 
 magazines, subscription to this is required!.
 Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is 
 required. I am not sure how much these two services are though.
 
 Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio.
 Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up the 
 tracks on the Internet.
 
 If you want to find out more or download it, go to:
 www.speakon.org.uk
 
 Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind.
 Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work.
 
 If anyone wants to contact me offlist, my E-mail address is:
 gazwpr...@gmail.com
 
 I hope you like this free player.
 -- 
 Gary Price
 Sent from Thunderbird on desktop.
 
 E-mail and Facebook:
 gazwpr...@gmail.com
 
 Skype/MSN:
 gazwpr...@googlemail.com
 
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Re: players that use shoutcast

2013-11-21 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Not all. tuesdays are more colorful movies and Fridays are family movies.
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message - 
From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


More info on where to find the movies? Are they religious related?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Doc Wright
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


  I have a shoutcast server and on tuesdays and Fridays I stream movies.  It
  would be a benefit if I had a player that used shoutcast and would give me
  the ability to schedule the time for the movie and play it
  ***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
  matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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  From: Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net
  To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45 AM
  Subject: Re: players that use shoutcast


  If I may ask, what are you trying to do here? Record a stream or play back 
a
  specific archived file at a specific time?



- Original Message - 
From: Robert Doc Wright
To: PC audio discussion list.
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:26 AM
Subject: players that use shoutcast


Is there a player other than winamp that uses shoutcast that also will
  allow
me to schedule a start time?
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It
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RE: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Tom Kaufman
To be honest, I haven't looked at Windows Media player lately since I
switched over to 7, but I am almost sure that Windows Media _does not_ have
a way to advance quickly through a file!  If anyone can show me different,
I'd be pleased to learn of it!
Tom Kaufman

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:12 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I'd be very surprised if Windows Media Player didn't have a simple command
for that, time to go and look for a list of Windows Media Player keyboard
shortcuts.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 4:09 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:

 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to
do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for
some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
 yet, but may soon.  
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SpeakOn Media Suite.

2013-11-21 Thread Gary Price(Gmail)

Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here.

I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as 
an alternative to Winamp.


This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do 
lots of things.
Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK 
magazines, subscription to this is required!.
Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is 
required. I am not sure how much these two services are though.


Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio.
Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up 
the tracks on the Internet.


If you want to find out more or download it, go to:
www.speakon.org.uk

Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind.
Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work.

If anyone wants to contact me offlist, my E-mail address is:
gazwpr...@gmail.com

I hope you like this free player.
--
Gary Price
Sent from Thunderbird on desktop.

E-mail and Facebook:
gazwpr...@gmail.com

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gazwpr...@googlemail.com

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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Evan Reese


Yes you can. I don't have iTunes myself, but I've been to sites that have 
links to listen to streams that are marked iTunes and (often) Winamp, both 
mentioned for the same stream. For example, you can set your Shoutcast 
streams to play in iTunes. Sometimes they're mentioned in separate links, 
but it's the same address. For instance, The Legend Oldies has a link to 
listen in Winamp and another for iTunes, but they're the same stream. I know 
because when I click on the link to play the iTunes stream, it plays in 
Winamp, and the bookmark is the same address.


Evan

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
streams, like you do with Winamp.
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing given there are alternatives out there.


And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
know how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried 
it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the 
reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that 
people find accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one 
to do
things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for 
some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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Replay Radio 9 Audio Tutorials

2013-11-21 Thread Petro T. Giannakopoulos

Replay Radio 9 made by applian.com
Record internet radio stations, shows and more.
Record multiple streams silently in the background known as Direct Download.
If direct download method cannot be used then you can use record audio option.

Add stations, shows and podcasts via the radio guide to the Replay Radio 
Schedule. Set recording time and more. Can tell each scheduled event you have 
to auto convertthe the recording to a format of your choice like mp3, wma and 
at various bit rates. So many formats to choose from.

Can manually set your own schedule without the radio guide if you know the 
stream URL address.

Can listen to your stations and shows if you do not want to record. Built-in 
tuner.

Comes with handy URL Finder tool which will find the hidden URL for your 
stream. You can use this tool to find hidden stream URLs to then add manually 
as a scheduled event and to be able to record it.

Costs $2.95 per month or $29.95 per year. They are using the subscription model.

Replay Radio 9 audio tutorials available. Replay Radio 9 works well with  
JAWS 14 and NVDA 2013.2.

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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread goshawk on horseback
I don't like spending hours looking stuff up, I do do other things as well.

Simon


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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having 
a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and 
you'll find it most rewarding.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

 may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us
 some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play
 many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not
 all of us like spending hours looking stuff up.

 Simon


 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


 Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp
 supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.

 I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support
 FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again
 smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
 addition
 of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of 
 Plugins
 when it comes to Winamp too!

 Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this
 discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
 like,
 it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
 product
 won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about
 nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20
 December just because of the end of Winamp.


 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and
 customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts
 were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes,
 plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different
 formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who
 like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

 Simon


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 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.

 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
 will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some
 of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to
 be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will 
 do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, 

The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored 
other players.


For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts 
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.


I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're 
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.


I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface 
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.


If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of 
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever 
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player 
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.


And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then 
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they 
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any 
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.


As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December 
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.



On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing
given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know

how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player



Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to

do

things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a

command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little

things

I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for

some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access

music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
yet, but may soon.

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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
I can assure you that iTunes and VLC have Graphic Equalisers in them and 
I would imagine that Windows Media Player would have similar, some sound 
cards and the Windows sound system itself usually offer bass and treble 
controls though how accessible these may be can very much depend on the 
sound card you're using.


Only me of course but when I'm listening through headphones I've 
certainly never found it necessary to use an equaliser, flat is good 
enough but I appreciate that everyone is different.



On 22/11/2013 3:38 AM, Evan Reese wrote:


Well, I'm not in a position to be able to use an audio system. My PC 
and the headphones I use to listen to music are my audio system. So 
the only bass and treble controls I have are in whatever player I use 
to play music. Hence my concern with an equalizer.


I do intend to check out iTunes at some point. I've heard many good 
things about it, but I'm in no hurry. Unless some new audio format 
comes along with content that I really really want to listen to, or I 
get a new PC with an OS that doesn't support Winamp, I think I'll 
stick with it for a while yet.


Evan

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


 Itunes certainly has an equaliser though I'm not sure how many bands 
are featured.


This is only me but the playing of files and formats and 
accessibility is more important to me than equalisers, if worst comes 
to worst and you're into that sort of thing then you can adjust bass 
and treble controls on your audio system.



On 22/11/2013 3:03 AM, Evan Reese wrote:


Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer.
Evan

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


I don't think you understand; while these players may be 
accessible, will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the 
middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off? 
Windows Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for 
some of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I 
want to be
able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go 
to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players 
will do

this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing

given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I 
don't know
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried 
it, so I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the 
reason are

hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.
- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman 
tomca...@comcast.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible. However it still won't allow 
one to

do

things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a

command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few 
little

things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC 
audio for

some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you 
access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't 
use ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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Restating my questions was RE: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013

2013-11-21 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

I think people aren't understanding what I'm asking.  I know Winamp will
keep working after AOL stops supporting it.  I have two things I'm wondering
about.

First, will it still be able to be retrieved from Ninite?  When I got the
updater for Winamp from Ninite, and I updated Winamp with it, it reported
that Winamp was being downloaded.  Where is this download coming from?  If
from the Ninite site, and there isn't any copyright issue with Winamp, then
there should be no problem getting it that way.  If Ninite is retrieving the
update from the Winamp site, then it won't work anymore.

Second, does AOL control the database Winamp uses for auto tagging?  If not,
then this feature should still work.  If AOL does control this database, and
they consider it a service for Winamp, this feature may not work after
December 20.

I hope this explains what I'm wondering about.  I got the Winamp installer,
so if I have to reformat this hard drive I still have a good copy to use to
install it.  We'll see what happens after December 20.

Have a great day, and don't work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: SpeakOn Media Suite.

2013-11-21 Thread Curtis Delzer
and, don't forget MaPlEr, which can rip from CDS, has a talking clock,
can record *.mp3 files, convert from format to format, play a few of the
formats of files E.G. *.mp3, *.ogg, *.wav, and to check it out, 
http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php
and it is extremely inexpensive to register.


--
Curtis Delzer.
HS.

K 6 V F O
San Bernardino, CA.

curtis1...@verizon.net

skype: curtis1014



On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 07:36:23 +1100
Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Didn't think it would be long before someone found another something apart 
 from the players we've been discussing smile.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:13 am, Gary Price(Gmail) gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello everyone. This is Gary Price here.
  
  I am writing to make you all aware of an excellent free audio player as an 
  alternative to Winamp.
  
  This player is called SpeakOn. This is a media player, but it can do lots 
  of things.
  Listen to Daisy books, download or listen to podcasts, listen to TNAUK 
  magazines, subscription to this is required!.
  Last FM, which is like a personal radio station, again subscription is 
  required. I am not sure how much these two services are though.
  
  Listen to the radio via a task called TuneIn radio.
  Plus so much more! Play CD;s, OK it can't rip them, but it can look up the 
  tracks on the Internet.
  
  If you want to find out more or download it, go to:
  www.speakon.org.uk
  
  Very easy to understand manual, developed by Isaac Porrat who is blind.
  Please also be aware that Java must be installed for it to work.
  
  If anyone wants to contact me offlist, my E-mail address is:
  gazwpr...@gmail.com
  
  I hope you like this free player.
  -- 
  Gary Price
  Sent from Thunderbird on desktop.
  
  E-mail and Facebook:
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RE: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

2013-11-21 Thread Hamit Campos
How accessible is this? Can it do Blu-ray Disks too?

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Masters
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:30 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

You can rip a DVD into a variety of video formats or to mp3 using the free
program Freemake Video Converter. Get it at:

www.freemake.com

Dean


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From: Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:17 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: DVDS on your Windows7 computer?

Is there a program that will let you put your DVDS on your computer simular
to how iTunes does for your music CDS?

I am using Windows7 and will be using Jaws 15, when I get it.

Thanks very much for any help! Vicky
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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams.

You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you need 
that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
 streams, like you do with Winamp.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing 
 given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know 
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I 
 don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are 
 hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find 
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
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 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
 things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for 
 some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
 yet, but may soon.
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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Kevin Cussick
Sense at last well put. sick of this trash about win amp cluttering my 
inbox. can't wait till 20th DEC.


On 21/11/2013 16:18, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
other players.

For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for
some of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want
to be
able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about
nothing
given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't
know

how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it,
so I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player



Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow
one to

do

things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a

command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little

things

I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for

some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access

music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use
ITunes
yet, but may soon.

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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Gary Wood

I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have.
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.


I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
addition of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention 
of Plugins when it comes to Winamp too!


Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado 
about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 
20 December just because of the end of Winamp.



On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:


for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
customizing
stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
were

already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
through all of that looking up stuff.
winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
plus

many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
formats,

such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
like

winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
other players.

For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
will

they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
Media
Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
be

able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will 
do

this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing

given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
know
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so 
I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
are

hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is 

Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.

I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support FLAC 
audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again smile. - 
that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the addition of 
Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of Plugins when 
it comes to Winamp too!

Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you like, it 
makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the product won't 
be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about nothing and 
look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20 December just because 
of the end of Winamp.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing 
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were 
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go 
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus 
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an 
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, 
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like 
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows 
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing
 given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I
 don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
 hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to
 do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio 

RE: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013

2013-11-21 Thread Tom Kaufman
I'm with Evan on this one; if it's just a matter of them not putting out new
versions of Winamp; if we can keep using our current versions as we have,
then there's really no problem!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get
WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013


Exactly so. It isn't as though Winamp is just going to go poof on December 
20. I will find another player eventually, but I expect to be using Winamp 
for a while, maybe quite a while, after the updates stop. The bookmarks will

still work, (they are often the same as those for iTunes anyway), the 
Gracenotes service will still work, so I can keep ripping CDs. I'm just 
going to keep using it until I get a compelling reason to change, such as a 
new PC with an OS that doesn't support it, or some new feature that I just 
positively must have.

Evan

- Original Message - 
From: richard claypool bellevue@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: Getting Winamp from Ninite.com was RE: Where do you get 
WinampPro? was RE: Winamp Shutting downonDecember20, 2013


 think about it mate, when wibnamp shuts down, no more winamp updates. 
 You'll just have to keep using the version you have now forever, or until 
 there's a version of windows that no longer supports winamp, and the next 
 version won't be out until at least 2015.  I'd not upgrade then, until the

 bugs are out, so another 4 or 5 years of winamp use shall be yours.
 On 11/21/2013 12:05 AM, Kevin Minor wrote:
 Hi.

 Here's something I'm curious about.  What happens to the Ninite update 
 for
 Winamp after AOL shuts down the Winamp site?  I wonder if that method of
 updating Winamp will still work.  I'm going to grab the installer for 
 Winamp
 5.66 Pro in case the Ninite link quits working.

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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Evan Reese


Another question would be which ones have a ten band equalizer.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player



I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows 
Media

Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
this easily, fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing
given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know

how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I
don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player



Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to

do

things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a

command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little

things

I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for

some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Gary Wood

Thanks.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player




Yes you can. I don't have iTunes myself, but I've been to sites that have 
links to listen to streams that are marked iTunes and (often) Winamp, both 
mentioned for the same stream. For example, you can set your Shoutcast 
streams to play in iTunes. Sometimes they're mentioned in separate links, 
but it's the same address. For instance, The Legend Oldies has a link to 
listen in Winamp and another for iTunes, but they're the same stream. I 
know because when I click on the link to play the iTunes stream, it plays 
in Winamp, and the bookmark is the same address.


Evan

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
streams, like you do with Winamp.
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
nothing given there are alternatives out there.


And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
know how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried 
it, so I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the 
reason are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that 
people find accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one 
to do
things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio 
for some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you 
access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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Re: Where do you get Winamp Pro? was RE: Winamp Shutting down onDecember20, 2013

2013-11-21 Thread Bradford Trainham
There is iTunes for Windows/Mac.
I liked Winamp fine but switched to iTunes about 5 years ago and never went 
back.

On Nov 20, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 I use VLC and works well for me.
 
 I'm sure there are thousands of other players out there and I'm equally sure 
 that others on list use other players than Winamp and use them well.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 9:23 am, Petro T. Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net 
 wrote:
 
 Tell us what you use and how well does each player work for you. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan 
 To: PC Audio Discussion List 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Where do you get Winamp Pro? was RE: Winamp Shutting down 
 onDecember20, 2013
 
 
 Don't know what all the big noise is about given that there are plenty of 
 other Media Players out there available free of charge or for next to 
 nothing.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:44 am, Steve Pattison s...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Sorry for the confusion. If you go to
 
 www.winamp.com/media-player/all
 
 and when you're at the top of that page use your screen reader's find 
 command to search for Winamp.com without the quotes and start reading 
 from there you should find the message about Winamp shutting down.
 
 Regarding Winamp Pro the link I gave in my previous version is for the free 
 version of Winamp. However if you've already purchased a serial number for 
 Winamp Pro and entered it into Winamp the latest version will turn into 
 Winamp Pro. It looks like you can no longer buy Winamp pro though. I've 
 been using Winamp Pro since 2004.
 
 Regards Steve.
 
 On 21/11/2013 8:18 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
 Don't know. I got mine from their site, but when I went up there just
 now, (and didn't find anything about anything no longer being available
 after December 20), I did however find that the Winamp Pro store is no
 longer available. There might be other places to get it though, albeit
 not the latest version. Mine is version 5.62, but I don't know whether
 that is the latest Pro version or not.
 
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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread goshawk on horseback
for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and customizing 
stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts were 
already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go 
through all of that looking up stuff.
winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, plus 
many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an 
obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different formats, 
such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who like 
winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp


Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
other players.

For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.

I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.

I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.

If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.

And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
audio/video formats that come our way in the future.

As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.


On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows 
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
 this easily, fine!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player

 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing
 given there are alternatives out there.

 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I
 don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
 hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player


 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to
 do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player

 I hope you enjoy it.

 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
 things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for
 some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.


 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
 ITunes
 yet, but may soon.
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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Gary Wood
You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
streams, like you do with Winamp.
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player


So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing 
given there are alternatives out there.


And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know 
how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so 
I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people 
find accessible.

- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player


Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to 
do
things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
command

as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for 
some

strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use 
ITunes

yet, but may soon.

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Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
No problem!

Up until recently I wouldn't have even suggested Windows users look at iTunes 
but we've come a long way in a very short time, access has improved a hundred 
fold, interface has been cleaned up and so on.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:12 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:

 Thanks.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams.
 
 You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you 
 need that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
 streams, like you do with Winamp.
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 
 So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing 
 given there are alternatives out there.
 
 And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know 
 how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so 
 I don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
 are hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people 
 find accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
 Subject: RE: ITunes Player
 
 
 Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to 
 do
 things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a 
 command
 as Winamp does!
 Tom Kaufman
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: ITunes Player
 
 I hope you enjoy it.
 
 I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little 
 things
 I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for 
 some
 strange reason but the software is very accessible.
 
 
 On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
 
 Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
 music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
 yet, but may soon.
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Re: data base [was] RE: Winamp Shutting down on December 20, 2013

2013-11-21 Thread Bradford Trainham
Doesn’t Winamp use GraceNote? I don’t think it’s part of Winamp as other 
rippers use it too.
On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de wrote:

 What about the data base? I guess they'll shut it down as well. What other
 data base except from Itunes and Freecddb can you recommend?
 
 Thanks,
 Alexandra
 
 
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 richard claypool
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:27 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Winamp Shutting down on December 20, 2013
 
 I'm sure the auto tag function wi9ll work, since it uses another unrelated
 service that other systems use.
 On 11/20/2013 10:24 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:
 Hi again.
 
 Here's something else I'm wondering about, besides where to get Winamp
 Pro.
 I wonder if the auto tag function will work after December 20?  I hope
 it will, since I use it to tag songs.  I guess we'll see what happens.
 
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Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp

2013-11-21 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm very glad to hear it.

On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:07 am, goshawk on horseback 
goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:

 I don't like spending hours looking stuff up, I do do other things as well.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:01 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having 
 a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and 
 you'll find it most rewarding.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback 
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us
 some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play
 many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not
 all of us like spending hours looking stuff up.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM
 Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp
 supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
 
 I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support
 FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again
 smile. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
 addition
 of Extenders or Plugins, funny that, I've heard the mention of 
 Plugins
 when it comes to Winamp too!
 
 Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this
 discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
 like,
 it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
 product
 won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about
 nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20
 December just because of the end of Winamp.
 
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback
 goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote:
 
 for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and
 customizing
 stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts
 were
 already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
 through all of that looking up stuff.
 winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes,
 plus
 many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
 obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different
 formats,
 such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
 I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who
 like
 winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
 
 Simon
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
 Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
 
 
 Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
 other players.
 
 For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
 using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
 
 I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
 prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
 
 I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
 is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
 
 If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
 the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
 have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
 is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
 
 And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
 there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
 see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
 audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
 
 As I said, much ado about nothing and Joy To The World come December
 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day smile.
 
 
 On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
 will
 they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
 example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
 will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
 Media
 Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some
 of
 the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to
 be
 able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
 point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will 
 do
 

Re: ITunes Player

2013-11-21 Thread Chris H
Yes iTunes works brilliantly under Windows now than it ever has. I just 
do not use it as a player but rather as an online catalogue for anything 
audio and to import CDs which I later play in Winamp.


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On 21/11/2013 20:39, Dane Trethowan wrote:

No problem!

Up until recently I wouldn't have even suggested Windows users look at iTunes 
but we've come a long way in a very short time, access has improved a hundred 
fold, interface has been cleaned up and so on.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:12 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Thanks.
- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player



Course you can! you'll also find a directory of Internet radio streams.

You can use the Open Url function to open a stream directly should you need 
that or integrate iTunes with your favourite browser.


On 22 Nov 2013, at 5:09 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


You're right, but I'm just wondering if you can use ITunes to listen to 
streams, like you do with Winamp.
- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: ITunes Player



So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about nothing 
given there are alternatives out there.

And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't know how 
accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so I don't 
know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are hooked on 
Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find accessible.
- Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Player



Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one to do
things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a command
as Winamp does!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: ITunes Player

I hope you enjoy it.

I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little things
I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for some
strange reason but the software is very accessible.


On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:


Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access

music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use ITunes
yet, but may soon.

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Convert .mkv file

2013-11-21 Thread Dean Masters
I have a .mkv file and want to create an mp3 out of it. I have tried 
Freemake video converter and Format Factory. both start and convert less 
than a minute then quit.


Can anyone suggest a way I can convert this file?

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Re: Convert .mkv file

2013-11-21 Thread Dave Scrimenti
I put convert mkv mp3 in to startpage and got a lot of results, but don't 
know which one works best. There are apparently a lot of converters out 
there though. And of course, you could always just play the file and record 
it with another program like Total Recorder.
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Subject: Convert .mkv file


I have a .mkv file and want to create an mp3 out of it. I have tried 
Freemake video converter and Format Factory. both start and convert less 
than a minute then quit.


Can anyone suggest a way I can convert this file?

Thanks,
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