Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
No, the iMic devices aren't quite as rugged as this but for the money you pay 
they really do give a big bang for your buck when it comes to a quality small 
external Sound device which is affordable.


On 1 Jun 2014, at 2:45 am, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hello dane.
 The audio interfaces I mentioned are portable of course, but not as
 small as the sound card of which you speak.
 They are however extremely rugged and use quarter inch jacks for the
 inputs, High quality Mic pre-amps, and really built for on the road use.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
 
 
 On Sat, 31 May 2014 23:54:12 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 I will take a look at that but I did manage to find a local distributor for 
 the iMic device, its about the size of a wrist watch and has a switchable 
 input - Line-in or Mic - and a standard line-out/headphones socket, all 
 controls for the iMic are controlled from the Windows Control Panel or the 
 Sounds System Preferences on a Mac, price in Australian dollars is around 
 $50, the perfect external sound device to have packed with your Macbook or 
 other Notebook.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface: 
 I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it is, only
 because it has a variable line-out.  All the controls are mounted on the
 top of the device, so you don't really need the accompanying software.
 
 Check it out.
 
 Joe
 
 On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:29:10 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 One of the best external Sound devices I ever purchased was the iMic, 
 thankfully I was able to purchase half a dozen of these at the time as they 
 don't seem to be available as readily as they once were.
 
 On 29 May 2014, at 11:00 pm, Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there!  I would like to find an external one, that has separate jacks for
 line-in and headphone.  My sound card on my Del Latitude only has one plug,
 making it very difficult to use like I need   to use it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert
 Nelson
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:23 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Sound card recommendation wanted
 
 
 
 Unfortunately, I doubt that you will be able to find a sound card which has
 Jaws friendly software.
 
 However, go to techbuy.com.au and do a search for sound card.
 
 There are still several cards made by Creative (even though their model
 names do their best to hide the nature of their functions).
 
 I suggest that you look closely at the Asus XONAR cards.  
 
 Bob Nelson
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Barry
 Chapman
 Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2014 2:14 PM
 To: PC-Audio
 Subject: Sound card recommendation wanted
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone suggest a good quality internal sound card where the accompanying
 software is JAWS friendly. I want one with separate line in and microphone
 jacks and if possible two sets of stereo line out. My old Sound Blaster Live
 could do this.
 
 Thanks very much,
 Barry Chapman 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
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 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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 Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
 
 
 
 
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 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
 
 


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On The Beach

2014-06-01 Thread Andrea Sherry

Does the Australian Radio serial of this novel still exist?
If so, can it be obtained and for what cost?
Andrea
--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start 
from now and make a brand new ending. - Carl Brad




Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in 
Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to import 
it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.

Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100 model so 
the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the 129 
models?

On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface: 
 I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it is, only
 because it has a variable line-out.  All the controls are mounted on the
 top of the device, so you don't really need the accompanying software.
 
 Check it out.
 
 Joe
 
 On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:29:10 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 One of the best external Sound devices I ever purchased was the iMic, 
 thankfully I was able to purchase half a dozen of these at the time as they 
 don't seem to be available as readily as they once were.
 
 On 29 May 2014, at 11:00 pm, Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there!  I would like to find an external one, that has separate jacks for
 line-in and headphone.  My sound card on my Del Latitude only has one plug,
 making it very difficult to use like I need   to use it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert
 Nelson
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:23 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Sound card recommendation wanted
 
 
 
 Unfortunately, I doubt that you will be able to find a sound card which has
 Jaws friendly software.
 
 However, go to techbuy.com.au and do a search for sound card.
 
 There are still several cards made by Creative (even though their model
 names do their best to hide the nature of their functions).
 
 I suggest that you look closely at the Asus XONAR cards.  
 
 Bob Nelson
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Barry
 Chapman
 Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2014 2:14 PM
 To: PC-Audio
 Subject: Sound card recommendation wanted
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone suggest a good quality internal sound card where the accompanying
 software is JAWS friendly. I want one with separate line in and microphone
 jacks and if possible two sets of stereo line out. My old Sound Blaster Live
 could do this.
 
 Thanks very much,
 Barry Chapman 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk
 
 


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Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Fax +61397437954
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RE: On The Beach

2014-06-01 Thread Jamie Kelly
Yes the complete series of 26 half-hour episodes exist, not available yet. I
would keep an eye on the Grace Gibson online shop as I suspect it will
become available in future releases.

Jamie




-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea
Sherry
Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 5:30 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: On The Beach

Does the Australian Radio serial of this novel still exist?
If so, can it be obtained and for what cost?
Andrea
-- 
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start 
from now and make a brand new ending. - Carl Brad



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Re: On The Beach

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Have you consulted the Screen And Sound Archive or Grace Gibson Radio 
Productions?

On 1 Jun 2014, at 5:30 pm, Andrea Sherry sherr...@wideband.net.au wrote:

 Does the Australian Radio serial of this novel still exist?
 If so, can it be obtained and for what cost?
 Andrea
 -- 
 Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from 
 now and make a brand new ending. - Carl Brad
 


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Skype: grtdane12
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Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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Re: On The Beach

2014-06-01 Thread Andrea Sherry

Could I have the details for that online shop please.
Andrea
On 1/06/2014 5:44 PM, Jamie Kelly wrote:

Yes the complete series of 26 half-hour episodes exist, not available yet. I
would keep an eye on the Grace Gibson online shop as I suspect it will
become available in future releases.

Jamie




-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea
Sherry
Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 5:30 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: On The Beach

Does the Australian Radio serial of this novel still exist?
If so, can it be obtained and for what cost?
Andrea


--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start 
from now and make a brand new ending. - Carl Brad




need help with Creative Sound Blaster and digital

2014-06-01 Thread Suereyya Janssen
Hello,

Does anybody know how to switch Creative FI series or Titanium sound cards
to digital?

I would appreciate it, if somebody could help me with this... 

Thank you very much for your effort and best wishes from Germany
Susie






need help with Creative Sound Blaster and digital setting

2014-06-01 Thread Suereyya Janssen
Hello,

Does anybody know how to switch Creative FI series or Titanium sound cards
to digital?

I would appreciate it, if somebody could help me with this... 

Thank you very much for your effort and best wishes from Germany Susie






Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
retails for about $200.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
 Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
 import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.

 Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100 model
 so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
 129 models?

 On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface:
 I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it is, only
 because it has a variable line-out.  All the controls are mounted on the
 top of the device, so you don't really need the accompanying software.

 Check it out.

 Joe

 On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:29:10 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 One of the best external Sound devices I ever purchased was the iMic,
 thankfully I was able to purchase half a dozen of these at the time as
 they don't seem to be available as readily as they once were.

 On 29 May 2014, at 11:00 pm, Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there!  I would like to find an external one, that has separate jacks
 for
 line-in and headphone.  My sound card on my Del Latitude only has one
 plug,
 making it very difficult to use like I need   to use it.


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Robert
 Nelson
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:23 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Sound card recommendation wanted



 Unfortunately, I doubt that you will be able to find a sound card which
 has
 Jaws friendly software.

 However, go to techbuy.com.au and do a search for sound card.

 There are still several cards made by Creative (even though their model
 names do their best to hide the nature of their functions).

 I suggest that you look closely at the Asus XONAR cards.

 Bob Nelson



 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Barry
 Chapman
 Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2014 2:14 PM
 To: PC-Audio
 Subject: Sound card recommendation wanted

 Hi all,

 Can anyone suggest a good quality internal sound card where the
 accompanying
 software is JAWS friendly. I want one with separate line in and
 microphone
 jacks and if possible two sets of stereo line out. My old Sound Blaster
 Live
 could do this.

 Thanks very much,
 Barry Chapman






 **

 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane




 --
 Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk




 **

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 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
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Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.

this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
the Book Port Plus.

Kelly



On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text

 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.

 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.

 P.


 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?

 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.

 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
 81.htm


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RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah you're right. Since you bring up Plextalk, I wish they'd overhall the 
PTR2. Ah the good old PTR2. An oldy but goody. But seriously dudes, it's time 
to update it. Get rid of all CF limits, make it suport the new CF cards or go 
for SD XC then. Then let's upgrade the DVD writer for a Blu-Ray writer shall 
we? Let's make it actually write DVDs and BDs whilst we are at it. Think of all 
one can put on a DVD or better yet a BD.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand 
Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in a 
TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current portable book 
readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation Victor Stream.  The 
current version of USB is 3.0, which has significantly faster file transfer 
rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a 
response.  If Hims opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others 
introduce a portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.

this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last generation of 
portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book Port Plus were the only 
units with a quality recorder.  I have since used the recorder for various 
purposes, including making broadcast quality recordings of lectures that later 
were aired on radio stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I 
waited for the Book Port Plus.

Kelly



On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access 
 toPrinted Text

 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of 
 interest to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind 
 outside the KNFB reader.

 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm 
 sure a lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be 
 interested to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.

 P.


 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
 Text

 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter 
 of a little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately 
 come very soon.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the 
 victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
 Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i 
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just 
 wonder if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a 
 lot of other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if 
 they are improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than 
 when it came out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have 
 come down a little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?

 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.

 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb
 118977
 81.htm


 **

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 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
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Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Interesting point.

I don't know many mobile devices that support USB 3.0 and that includes the 
iPhone and my Samsung Galaxy S4, I don't think the latter even supports USB 
3.0, the only small device around I have which does support it - via a firmware 
update - is the Zoom H1 Recorder, don't even think the Olympus DM4 supports USB 
3.0.

On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:53 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
 a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
 portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
 Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
 significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
 e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
 opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
 portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.
 
 this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
 generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
 Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
 used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
 quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
 stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
 the Book Port Plus.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text
 
 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.
 
 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.
 
 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
 81.htm
 
 
 **
 
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 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
Apple re imagines its iPhone hardware every two years.  this year is
on schedule for a new iPhone hardware design.  I am quite interested
to learn if the iPhone 6 will include USB 3 this fall.
Kelly




On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Interesting point.

 I don't know many mobile devices that support USB 3.0 and that includes the
 iPhone and my Samsung Galaxy S4, I don't think the latter even supports USB
 3.0, the only small device around I have which does support it - via a
 firmware update - is the Zoom H1 Recorder, don't even think the Olympus DM4
 supports USB 3.0.

 On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:53 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
 a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
 portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
 Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
 significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
 e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
 opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
 portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.

 this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
 generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
 Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
 used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
 quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
 stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
 the Book Port Plus.

 Kelly



 On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text

 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of
 interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.

 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure
 a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be
 interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.

 P.


 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter
 of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?

 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.

 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
 81.htm


 **

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 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
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Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Joe Paton
Hi,

I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.

Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.

I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
got behind the problem.

I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
pannel, delivered with the latest
revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.

Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
GB ram, and 1 TB HD.

The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.

Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.

I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
are blowing so life is limited.

This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.

I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
shame.

So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.

Then we should be good to go as they say.

Thanks,

Joe





On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
retails for about $200.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
 Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
 import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.

 Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100 model
 so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
 129 models?

 On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface:
 I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it is, only
 because it has a variable line-out.  All the controls are mounted on the
 top of the device, so you don't really need the accompanying software.

 Check it out.

 Joe

 On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:29:10 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 One of the best external Sound devices I ever purchased was the iMic,
 thankfully I was able to purchase half a dozen of these at the time as
 they don't seem to be available as readily as they once were.

 On 29 May 2014, at 11:00 pm, Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there!  I would like to find an external one, that has separate jacks
 for
 line-in and headphone.  My sound card on my Del Latitude only has one
 plug,
 making it very difficult to use like I need   to use it.


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Robert
 Nelson
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:23 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Sound card recommendation wanted



 Unfortunately, I doubt that you will be able to find a sound card which
 has
 Jaws friendly software.

 However, go to techbuy.com.au and do a search for sound card.

 There are still several cards made by Creative (even though their model
 names do their best to hide the nature of their functions).

 I suggest 

Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Interesting.

I've had mixed results with Realtek HD sound devices but for the main part I've 
been able to access specific controls pertaining to these devices without too 
much trouble.

The worst Sound Card I thin kI've ever had is the SB Live I think it was called 
or perhaps it was the SB Audigy? I don't remember precisely but what I do 
remember was that the card was an absolute swine of a thing to use.

Every time I restarted my old Windows XP computer the recording source would 
reset itself so I had to manually go into the properties for the card and reset 
it, too bad! that machine was my main recorder at the time.  I can't tell you 
all just how glad I was when the CPU in that machine overheated, gave me a good 
excuse to purchase the current machine I have which has the onboard Sound 
device I referred to a few eMails ago, plenty of inputs and outputs and I 
always have my iMac devices and the high quality Fastrak mixer to fall back on 
should I need extra Sound Devices.

Unlike the majority of list members, I use multi platforms in my work here thus 
my main work environment these days is on an Apple Mac, these machines were the 
first I know of to have built-in sound devices which obviously are commonly 
found now in Windows machines.

Up until recently it was common for all Mac computers to have both an audio 
input and an audio output socket but this has changed somewhat.

My Macbook Pro has one socket which is supposed to do both jobs depending 
what's plugged into the socket, what a nightmare and it makes me glad - yet 
again - that I had the foresight to purchase half a dozen iMic sound devices, 
they really come in handy here.

Most other sound devices I have here work with the Mac without issue, these 
include the Fastrak mixer etc.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 5:56 am, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.
 
 Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
 specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
 takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
 holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.
 
 I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
 problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
 were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
 got behind the problem.
 
 I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
 pannel, delivered with the latest
 revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
 when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
 also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
 ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.
 
 Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
 GB ram, and 1 TB HD.
 
 The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
 quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.
 
 Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
 changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
 not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.
 
 I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
 only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
 there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
 it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
 will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
 are blowing so life is limited.
 
 This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.
 
 I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
 shame.
 
 So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
 already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.
 
 Then we should be good to go as they say.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
 Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
 definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
 I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
 high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
 M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
 XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
 screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
 bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
 shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
 inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
 and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
 JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
 retails for about $200.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Its going to have to include something, the iPhone is falling behind the rest 
of the pack as far as Tech Specs are concerned, of course that statement 
probably isn't a concern to most iPhone users smile, they think of an iPhone 
as a Christian thinks of the Lord Above smile.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 5:33 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apple re imagines its iPhone hardware every two years.  this year is
 on schedule for a new iPhone hardware design.  I am quite interested
 to learn if the iPhone 6 will include USB 3 this fall.
 Kelly
 
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Interesting point.
 
 I don't know many mobile devices that support USB 3.0 and that includes the
 iPhone and my Samsung Galaxy S4, I don't think the latter even supports USB
 3.0, the only small device around I have which does support it - via a
 firmware update - is the Zoom H1 Recorder, don't even think the Olympus DM4
 supports USB 3.0.
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:53 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
 a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
 portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
 Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
 significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
 e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
 opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
 portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.
 
 this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
 generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
 Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
 used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
 quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
 stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
 the Book Port Plus.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text
 
 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of
 interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.
 
 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.
 
 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure
 a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be
 interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter
 of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 

Pioneer XW-SMA3 Wireless Speaker System

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Just ordered one of these so I'll be able to tell you all about it this time 
next week I hope.

I spoke about my Pioneer XW-SMA1 some time back, the SMA3 is the version with 
the rechargeable battery built-in, as far as I know both models have the same 
specifications and look pretty much identical.

I did think about the Panasonic SC-HC57DB system, its feature packed but sounds 
pretty awful.



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Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blind and Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Adrien Collins
Hi 


For what it can do, very possible.


Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 3:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player that Gives Blind and Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text

Did you think it would be more expensive?

That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the
time it reaches the Land Downunder.

On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would
be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS
-Inc/prweb11897781.htm
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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sound cards for the PC

2014-06-01 Thread Reinhard Stebner
What sounds cards have you guys found to be the best in terms of giving high 
quality sound output?




RE: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Dave McElroy
Gee thanks, Joe, lol.  Guess what sound i've got with my new pc?  yep, the
Realtech.  Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted
needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

Hi,

I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.

Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.

I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
got behind the problem.

I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
pannel, delivered with the latest
revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.

Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
GB ram, and 1 TB HD.

The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.

Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.

I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
are blowing so life is limited.

This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.

I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
shame.

So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.

Then we should be good to go as they say.

Thanks,

Joe





On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
retails for about $200.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
 Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
 import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.

 Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100
model
 so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
 129 models?

 On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface:
 I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it is, only
 because it has a variable line-out.  All the controls are mounted on the
 top of the device, so you don't really need the accompanying software.

 Check it out.

 Joe

 On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:29:10 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 One of the best external Sound devices I ever purchased was the iMic,
 thankfully I was able to purchase half a dozen of these at the time as
 they don't seem to be available as readily as they once were.

 On 29 May 2014, at 11:00 pm, Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there!  I would like to find an external one, that has separate jacks
 for
 line-in and headphone.  My sound card on my Del Latitude only has one
 plug,
 making it very difficult to use like I need   to use it.


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Robert
 Nelson
 Sent: Thursday, May 

RE: On The Beach

2014-06-01 Thread Jamie Kelly
FYI
http://www.gracegibsonradio.com

Hello again - and welcome to the first batch of new releases for 2014!.
For those already committed to ongoing series we have two new Volumes of The
Castlereagh Line, the final chapter in the Gregory Keen mysteries, The Smell
of Terror; along with new Volumes of Night Beat, Address Unknown and Yes,
What?
If you’re looking for something of a shorter duration, the new offerings
include The Priestman File and Goodbye Gwynnevere – each self-contained
series has 65 episodes of around 6 minutes.
The Man From M.I.5 is the same length as The Smell of Terror (104 x 12
mins), whereas the longer duration shows are Violets Are Blue, Under Her
Spell and The House of Gold – with each containing 130 x 12 minute episodes
(they’re 2 CD sets).
Trust you find something new to pique your interest…


The penultimate Volumes of The Castlereagh Line are here, bringing us up to
Episode 780. In Volume 11, William Holly enthusiastically takes up his
inherited Castlereagh shareholding and renews his acquaintance with Alison
Seager, much to Jack Seager’s horror. Lottie’s love life horrifies Mrs Mac,
then literally shocks her. Charles Hamilton’s poor luck and timing continue
to cause him heartache.
In Volume 12, Meredith Hamilton-Summers becomes a player as her parents try
to out-manoeuvre each other. Jack patches up his relationship with Alison -
with much help from Mat Gore. Lottie, meanwhile, has decided on a fresh
start in life, however, as always, Jack Seager can’t help but intervene.
Each mp3 CD contains 65 episodes (close to 7 hours of listening). Stay tuned
for the final two volumes around August.




The Priestman File
Why must Alexander Priestman be prevented from becoming Prime Minister of
Australia? Set in the 1980’s The Priestman File is a chilling
Australian-based political drama – crooked politicians, big mining,
manipulation of policy by media operators, and so on – it could happen any
time… There are 65 episodes to this series.




The Smell of Terror is the fifth, and final, chapter in the Gregory Keen
mysteries. Keen is quietly fishing when he receives an invitation  to the
West Indies. The island republic is ruled by a dictator, who receives word
that an ex-armed forces type is heading to the island to help train
revolutionaries. The intrigue that follows finds Keen and Tommy Coutts
return to their old ways.  104 x 12 mins:  over 20 hours




Night Beat  (Volume 2) Randy Stone of “The Daily” returns for another 15
stories in Night Beat.  Each episode is self-contained – which has added to
its popularity (one episode is, we’re told, the perfect length for a morning
walk, the commute to work/golf/shops, etc – without having to remember where
the story was up to!) Due to current interest, we’ll be releasing more
Volumes in the coming months.




Address Unknown (Vol 2) As with Night Beat, these  self-contained stories
are fascinating. We’ve had great feedback from people who’ve just discovered
this series and there’ll be more Volumes in the coming months. Based on
files of the (fictitious) Missing Persons Bureau in London, each episode
follows the investigators as they track down their quarry.  I have to admit
this is one of my personal favourites too!. 15 x 24 min episodes on each mp3
CD.




Violets Are Blue An army officer kills the man who violated his wife.  It
appears an open and shut case until the undercurrents are investigated and a
vicious story unfolds It's a vivid insight into the intrigue and drama
Richard Blake is involved before, during and after the trial of Stephen
Aldrich.   It features a guest appearance by Portia Manning of Portia Faces
Life fame.   2 CD set containing 130 x 12 minutes – around 26 hours of
listening.




Under Her Spell This one has lots of schemes and manoeuvres, and involves
two sisters (may we say an evil sister and a good sister?). Kate Winslow
knew that when a man fell under the spell of her older sister Julia, he was
destroyed emotionally and financially.  Julia had lavishly spent their
father’s estate and worked to poison Kate’s fiancé, Brett, against her. 130
x 12 mins on 2 CD’s:  approx 26 hours




Goodbye Gwynnevere Is it possible for a ‘hit-man’ for the secret service to
retire to a quiet suburban life with his charmingly sweet wife and children?
Roger Schofield thought he could.  However, his old bosses recruit him for
‘one last job’, which of course, doesn’t go according to plan.  And then
there’s his former partner in crime - Gwynnevere – would he ever be free of
her?  65 x 6 mins:  around 6 1/2 hrs




The House of Gold
This story takes place in two vastly different environments – the quiet of
an English country yard and a hot explosive new land where gold is sought
and desired, but brings disaster and death to many.  Listeners will
alternately love and hate the characters of this romantic and gripping tale!
With 130 x 12 minute episodes, this is another 2 CD set of around 26 hours.




The Man From M.I.5
A riveting drama for 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindandVisually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Brian Olesen

Hi,
Well it doesn't matter at all.
All current computers comes with afew usb3 and some usb 2 ports.
840 mega bits per second is enough for most transfering. It's not usb that 
sets the limits for todays daisy readers.


Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 6:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
PlayerthatGivesBlindandVisually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text


something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.

this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
the Book Port Plus.

Kelly



On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:

you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
Text

To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest
to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
KNFB
reader.

If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a
lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:


Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I

mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested
to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.


P.


-Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player

thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text


hi,
Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of
a
little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
soon.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
victor.



-Original Message- From: Dennis
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives
Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
little more than that.
On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Did you think it would be more expensive?

That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it

reaches the Land Downunder.


On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:


wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:



http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
81.htm



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Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
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**

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Adrien Collins
Hi 

For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
these features? It looks very good though.

Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text

I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
manual smile.


On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
wrote:

 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
than the other solutions before I would buy it.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
gera1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
to the past thread, thus missed it.
 
 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get
one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
machine in the weeks and months ahead.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 well it clames it has internet radio listening
cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll
drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they
charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
other technology these things don't go down in price. so if
you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
Ootunes like the victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when
it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to
$1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence
was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just
wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50
less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would
have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will
be by the time it reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm,
Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought
it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS
-Inc/prweb11897781.htm
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
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 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
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 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
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Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Joe Paton
Dave,

I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if
only, the interface from dell were accessible.

On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often
picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs.

Take care,

Joe

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700
Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:

Gee thanks, Joe, lol.  Guess what sound i've got with my new pc?  yep, the
Realtech.  Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted
needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

Hi,

I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.

Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.

I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
got behind the problem.

I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
pannel, delivered with the latest
revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.

Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
GB ram, and 1 TB HD.

The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.

Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.

I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
are blowing so life is limited.

This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.

I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
shame.

So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.

Then we should be good to go as they say.

Thanks,

Joe





On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
retails for about $200.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
 Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
 import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.

 Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100
model
 so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
 129 models?

 On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface:
 I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it is, only
 because it has a variable line-out.  All the controls are mounted on the
 top of the device, so you don't really need the accompanying software.

 Check it out.

 Joe

 On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:29:10 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

 One of the best external Sound devices I ever purchased was the iMic,
 thankfully I was able to purchase half a dozen of these at the time as
 they don't seem to be available as readily as they once were.

 On 29 May 2014, at 11:00 pm, Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Aidan
I agree Brian, and most devices won't have 3.0 for a long time stil.
Don't see the issue here. Its still good enough with 2.0, yes 3 is
nice but not required.

On 01/06/2014, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.

 Regards

 Adrien


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text

 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
 manual smile.


 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.

 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.

 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.

 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
 others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get
 one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
 judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
 going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
 machine in the weeks and months ahead.

 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:

 well it clames it has internet radio listening
 cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
 radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll
 drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they
 charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
 other technology these things don't go down in price. so if
 you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
 matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
 counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
 Ootunes like the victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
 Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
 Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when
 it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to
 $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence
 was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just
 wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50
 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would
 have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?

 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will
 be by the time it reaches the Land Downunder.

 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought
 it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS
 -Inc/prweb11897781.htm


 **

 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane





 **

 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: 

Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Thank Goodness mine has digital outputs, no adjustments needed on the computer 
side smile

On 2 Jun 2014, at 6:36 am, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:

 Gee thanks, Joe, lol.  Guess what sound i've got with my new pc?  yep, the
 Realtech.  Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted
 needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted
 
 Hi,
 
 I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.
 
 Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
 specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
 takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
 holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.
 
 I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
 problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
 were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
 got behind the problem.
 
 I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
 pannel, delivered with the latest
 revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
 when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
 also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
 ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.
 
 Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
 GB ram, and 1 TB HD.
 
 The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
 quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.
 
 Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
 changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
 not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.
 
 I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
 only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
 there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
 it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
 will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
 are blowing so life is limited.
 
 This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.
 
 I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
 shame.
 
 So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
 already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.
 
 Then we should be good to go as they say.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
 Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
 definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
 I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
 high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
 M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
 XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
 screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
 bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
 shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
 inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
 and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
 JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
 retails for about $200.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
 Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
 import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.
 
 Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100
 model
 so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
 129 models?
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface:
 I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it is, only
 because it has a variable line-out.  All the controls are mounted on the
 top of the device, so you don't really need the accompanying software.
 
 Check it out.
 
 Joe
 
 On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:29:10 +1000
 Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 One of the best external Sound devices I ever purchased was the iMic,
 thankfully I was able to purchase half a dozen of these at the time as
 they don't seem to be available as readily as they once were.
 
 On 29 May 2014, at 11:00 pm, Michael Mote miketmot...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi there!  I would like to find an external one, that has separate jacks
 for
 line-in and 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindandVisually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes I do agree with you there, its being a bit picky really when you think 
about it, we're not talking about something where USB 3.0 is a critical issue, 
yes the user will be transferring some data most likely but it won't be gigs 
and gigs worth.

As it happens, Windows 7 and XP - 2 of the most widely used Operating Systems 
from Microsoft - don't natively support USB 3.0 and most computers still 
support USB 2.0 by default.

On 2 Jun 2014, at 6:52 am, Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk wrote:

 Hi,
 Well it doesn't matter at all.
 All current computers comes with afew usb3 and some usb 2 ports.
 840 mega bits per second is enough for most transfering. It's not usb that 
 sets the limits for todays daisy readers.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Kelly Pierce
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 6:53 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
 PlayerthatGivesBlindandVisually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text
 
 something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
 a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
 portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
 Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
 significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
 e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
 opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
 portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.
 
 this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
 generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
 Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
 used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
 quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
 stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
 the Book Port Plus.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text
 
 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.
 
 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.
 
 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
 81.htm
 
 
 **
 
 Dane 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will 
appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet 
radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they 
were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use!

On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi 
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text
 
 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
 manual smile.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.
 
 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
 others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get
 one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
 judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
 going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
 machine in the weeks and months ahead.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 well it clames it has internet radio listening
 cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
 radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll
 drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they
 charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
 other technology these things don't go down in price. so if
 you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
 matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
 counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
 Ootunes like the victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
 Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
 Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when
 it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to
 $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence
 was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just
 wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50
 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would
 have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will
 be by the time it reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought
 it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS
 -Inc/prweb11897781.htm
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax 

Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Speaking of Sound Devices and the like I meant to mention my new Zoom H1, I've 
tested it as a sound device and yes it works well.

Put simply connecting the Zoom H1 ia a USB connection turns the H1 into a high 
quality x/y pattern desktop microphone, extend this by adding another 
microphone to the Mic input socket, don't know how this would go with a Line-in 
source though I can't see why it wouldn't work.

On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:05 am, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:

 Dave,
 
 I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if
 only, the interface from dell were accessible.
 
 On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often
 picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs.
 
 Take care,
 
 Joe
 
 On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700
 Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 
 Gee thanks, Joe, lol.  Guess what sound i've got with my new pc?  yep, the
 Realtech.  Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted
 needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted
 
 Hi,
 
 I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.
 
 Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
 specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
 takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
 holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.
 
 I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
 problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
 were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
 got behind the problem.
 
 I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
 pannel, delivered with the latest
 revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
 when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
 also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
 ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.
 
 Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
 GB ram, and 1 TB HD.
 
 The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
 quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.
 
 Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
 changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
 not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.
 
 I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
 only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
 there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
 it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
 will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
 are blowing so life is limited.
 
 This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.
 
 I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
 shame.
 
 So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
 already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.
 
 Then we should be good to go as they say.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
 Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
 definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
 I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
 high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
 M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
 XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
 screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
 bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
 shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
 inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
 and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
 JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
 retails for about $200.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
 Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
 import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.
 
 Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100
 model
 so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
 129 models?
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hello.
 You could look at the   Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface:
 I'm 

RE: Need help with Windows Media Player

2014-06-01 Thread Jeff Samco
Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions. As it turned out, mute had not 
been active but I must have used F8 to lower the volume to 0. F9 
raises the WMP volume.

Thanks,
Jeff

At 08:24 PM 5/31/2014, you wrote:

Yes it is. If it's muted just hit F77 and all will be well.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jerry
Berrier
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 8:16 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Need help with Windows Media Player

I think F7 is the mute toggle key.

- Original Message -
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Need help with Windows Media Player


Jeff, I haven't used WMP in ages but I remember accidentally muting it many
times. Might be something to check.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
Samco
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 5:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Need help with Windows Media Player

Windows Media Player has been my default player for a long time on my
Windows 7 laptop. IN the last week I noticed it no longer plays any
MP3 files I press Enter on. Coincidentally, about the same time I have
subscribed to the eMusic web service. WMP still comes up but the track is
not played. I have tried forcing play with Ctrl-P and also going into the
menus. I have also poked around all the menus but didn't see anything
obvious that needed a setting to be changed.

Any suggestions on how to further trouble shoot this?
Thanks,
Jeff





Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Peter Scanlon

I don't want a FM Radio, but the internet radio was what I wanted.
I want all in one device.
I hear you say, get an IPhone,. Well I want something with real buttons 
rather than touch screen. And I see no reason why Himms or someone could not 
make such a device which also includes a phone.


P.


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:32 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives 
Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text


I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will 
appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet 
radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that 
they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use!


On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi

For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
these features? It looks very good though.

Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text

I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
manual smile.


On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
wrote:


not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would

rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.

On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.

On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com

wrote:



for everyones information on price. i just looked at the

website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.

On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:

Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on

documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
than the other solutions before I would buy it.



On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio

gera1...@gmail.com wrote:


Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention

to the past thread, thus missed it.


El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:

Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what

others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get
one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
machine in the weeks and months ahead.



On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,

Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:


well it clames it has internet radio listening

cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll
drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they
charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
other technology these things don't go down in price. so if
you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
counting on a lot of agency perchases.

On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like

Ootunes like the victor.




-Original Message- From: Dennis
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized

Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
Near-instant Access to Printed Text


oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when

it came out i

figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to

$1000. i just wonder

if the media player is better than the booksence

was. it has a lot of

other features that the booksence does and i just

wonder if they are

improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50

less than when it came

out a few years ago. i would have thought it would

have come down a

little more than that.

On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Did you think it would be more expensive?

That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will

be by the 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Gary King
If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the 
BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense is not 
very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo 
mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations 
better using the same earphones as the antenna.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives 
Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text



I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will 
appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet 
radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that 
they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use!


On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi

For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
these features? It looks very good though.

Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text

I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
manual smile.


On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
wrote:


not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would

rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.

On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.

On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com

wrote:



for everyones information on price. i just looked at the

website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.

On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:

Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on

documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
than the other solutions before I would buy it.



On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio

gera1...@gmail.com wrote:


Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention

to the past thread, thus missed it.


El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:

Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what

others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get
one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
machine in the weeks and months ahead.



On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,

Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:


well it clames it has internet radio listening

cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll
drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they
charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
other technology these things don't go down in price. so if
you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
counting on a lot of agency perchases.

On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like

Ootunes like the victor.




-Original Message- From: Dennis
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized

Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
Near-instant Access to Printed Text


oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when

it came out i

figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to

$1000. i just wonder

if the media player is better than the booksence

was. it has a lot of

other features that the booksence does and i just

wonder if they are

improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50

less than when it came

out a few years ago. i would have thought it would

have come down a

little more than that.

On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
And a coffee maker too!

On 2 Jun 2014, at 8:15 am, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 I don't want a FM Radio, but the internet radio was what I wanted.
 I want all in one device.
 I hear you say, get an IPhone,. Well I want something with real buttons 
 rather than touch screen. And I see no reason why Himms or someone could not 
 make such a device which also includes a phone.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:32 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives 
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will 
 appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet 
 radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that 
 they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text
 
 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
 manual smile.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.
 
 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
 others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get
 one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
 judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
 going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
 machine in the weeks and months ahead.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 well it clames it has internet radio listening
 cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
 radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll
 drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they
 charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
 other technology these things don't go down in price. so if
 you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
 matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
 counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
 Ootunes like the victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
 Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
 Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when
 it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to
 $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence
 was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just
 wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50
 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would
 have come down a
 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in a 
device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be 
inferior to a dedicated FM radio.

The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one of 
these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving you 
3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any practical 
purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it.

Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more appealing 
about this equipment than a FM radio.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the 
 BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense is not 
 very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. 
  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better 
 using the same earphones as the antenna.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives 
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will 
 appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet 
 radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that 
 they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text
 
 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
 manual smile.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.
 
 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
 others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get
 one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
 judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
 going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
 machine in the weeks and months ahead.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 well it clames it has internet radio listening
 cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
 radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll
 drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they
 charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
 other technology these things don't go down in price. so if
 you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
 matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
 counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
 Ootunes like 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB
file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with
windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  I
want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of
today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of
yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official
specification.  It is fully backward compatible and supports
connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.

The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification
sheet.  Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an
FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader.
Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just
because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I
should buy the replacement device from them.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in
 a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be
 inferior to a dedicated FM radio.

 The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one
 of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving
 you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any
 practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it.

 Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more
 appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.


 On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the
 BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense is not
 very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo
 mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations
 better using the same earphones as the antenna.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text


 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will
 appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet
 radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that
 they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the
 use!

 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi

 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.

 Regards

 Adrien


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text

 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
 manual smile.


 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.

 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.

 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.

 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
 

Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread tim cumings
dane do you have to install any special software on the h-1 to do this. 
Or do you simnply hook it up to a an usb port and it shows up as an 
input device?


On 6/1/2014 5:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Speaking of Sound Devices and the like I meant to mention my new Zoom H1, I've 
tested it as a sound device and yes it works well.

Put simply connecting the Zoom H1 ia a USB connection turns the H1 into a high 
quality x/y pattern desktop microphone, extend this by adding another 
microphone to the Mic input socket, don't know how this would go with a Line-in 
source though I can't see why it wouldn't work.

On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:05 am, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:


Dave,

I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if
only, the interface from dell were accessible.

On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often
picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs.

Take care,

Joe

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700
Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:

Gee thanks, Joe, lol.  Guess what sound i've got with my new pc?  yep, the
Realtech.  Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted
needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

Hi,

I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.

Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.

I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
got behind the problem.

I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
pannel, delivered with the latest
revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.

Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
GB ram, and 1 TB HD.

The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.

Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.

I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
are blowing so life is limited.

This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.

I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
shame.

So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.

Then we should be good to go as they say.

Thanks,

Joe





On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
retails for about $200.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.

Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100

model

so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
129 models?

On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton 

Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread tim cumings
Dane doou have to install special software on the zoom h-1 to do this, 
or do you just hook it up to an usb port and it shows up as an input device?

On 6/1/2014 5:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Speaking of Sound Devices and the like I meant to mention my new Zoom H1, I've 
tested it as a sound device and yes it works well.

Put simply connecting the Zoom H1 ia a USB connection turns the H1 into a high 
quality x/y pattern desktop microphone, extend this by adding another 
microphone to the Mic input socket, don't know how this would go with a Line-in 
source though I can't see why it wouldn't work.

On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:05 am, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:


Dave,

I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if
only, the interface from dell were accessible.

On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often
picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs.

Take care,

Joe

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700
Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:

Gee thanks, Joe, lol.  Guess what sound i've got with my new pc?  yep, the
Realtech.  Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted
needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

Hi,

I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.

Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.

I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
got behind the problem.

I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
pannel, delivered with the latest
revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.

Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
GB ram, and 1 TB HD.

The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.

Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.

I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
are blowing so life is limited.

This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.

I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
shame.

So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.

Then we should be good to go as they say.

Thanks,

Joe





On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
retails for about $200.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:

Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia.

Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100

model

so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the
129 models?

On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk 

RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Hamit Campos
I guess you are correct. Isn't it like $600?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 9:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives 
Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB file 
transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with windows 8.1, 
people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  I want a device that is 
future focused and ready for the computers of today and tomorrow not geared for 
a computing environment of yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released 
as an official specification.  It is fully backward compatible and supports 
connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.

The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification sheet.  Those 
that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an FM radio was in its 
previous generation portable book reader.
Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just because I 
bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I should buy the 
replacement device from them.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM 
 radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is 
 bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio.

 The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting 
 one of these into their products is because they can, a bit like 
 Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they 
 particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because 
 Tecsun can do it.

 Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more 
 appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.


 On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the 
 BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense 
 is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it 
 in stereo mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up 
 weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna.

 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player 
 thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
 Text


 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope 
 will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and 
 Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say 
 Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM 
 radio, what's the use!

 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins 
 adriencollins22...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi

 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget 
 will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet 
 radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the 
 ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device 
 what else would cover these features? It looks very good though.

 Regards

 Adrien


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
 Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios on 
 the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your 
 moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual smile.


 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.

 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that its 
 $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and ordered one 
 just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and see the reviews on it 
 sence i already have a booksence that i payed $500 for and i just 
 don't know if i'd get my monys worth from buying the blaze.this is 
 just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, Kurzweil 
 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, 

RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah you're too funny Dain. You always put a smile on my face man.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 8:09 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives
Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

And a coffee maker too!

On 2 Jun 2014, at 8:15 am, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 I don't want a FM Radio, but the internet radio was what I wanted.
 I want all in one device.
 I hear you say, get an IPhone,. Well I want something with real buttons
rather than touch screen. And I see no reason why Himms or someone could not
make such a device which also includes a phone.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:32 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player 
 thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
 Text
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will
appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet
radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that
they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget 
 will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet 
 radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the 
 ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device what 
 else would cover these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
 Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios on 
 the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your 
 moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual smile.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that its $749. 
 if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and ordered one 
 just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and see the reviews on it 
 sence i already have a booksence that i payed $500 for and i just 
 don't know if i'd get my monys worth from buying the blaze.this is 
 just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, Kurzweil 
 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo and the standscan 
 pro. Results need to be much much better than the other solutions 
 before I would buy it.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.
 
 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
 others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get one for 
 quite some time - even if I wanted one - but - judging by the Youtube 
 video I referred to earlier - we're going to see some most 
 interesting chatter regarding this machine in the weeks and months 
 ahead.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 well it clames it has internet radio listening
 cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm radio. it 
 seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll drop the over $700 
 for the thing. its over $700 because they charge shipping. the other 
 thing that bothers me is unlike other technology these things don't 
 go down in price. so if you don't buy it right away and want to wait, 
 it doesn't matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are 
 counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
 Ootunes like the victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
 Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant 
 Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed as 
it is out the door for the price.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB
 file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with
 windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  I
 want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of
 today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of
 yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official
 specification.  It is fully backward compatible and supports
 connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.
 
 The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification
 sheet.  Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an
 FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader.
 Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just
 because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I
 should buy the replacement device from them.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in
 a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be
 inferior to a dedicated FM radio.
 
 The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one
 of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving
 you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any
 practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it.
 
 Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more
 appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the
 BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense is not
 very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo
 mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations
 better using the same earphones as the antenna.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will
 appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet
 radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that
 they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the
 use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text
 
 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
 manual smile.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 

Re: Sound card recommendation wanted

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, make sure the latest system firmware is installed.

On 2 Jun 2014, at 12:04 pm, tim cumings thcumi...@comcast.net wrote:

 dane do you have to install any special software on the h-1 to do this. Or do 
 you simnply hook it up to a an usb port and it shows up as an input device?
 
 On 6/1/2014 5:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Speaking of Sound Devices and the like I meant to mention my new Zoom H1, 
 I've tested it as a sound device and yes it works well.
 
 Put simply connecting the Zoom H1 ia a USB connection turns the H1 into a 
 high quality x/y pattern desktop microphone, extend this by adding another 
 microphone to the Mic input socket, don't know how this would go with a 
 Line-in source though I can't see why it wouldn't work.
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:05 am, Joe Paton j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk wrote:
 
 Dave,
 
 I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if
 only, the interface from dell were accessible.
 
 On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often
 picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs.
 
 Take care,
 
 Joe
 
 On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700
 Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 
 Gee thanks, Joe, lol.  Guess what sound i've got with my new pc?  yep, the
 Realtech.  Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted
 needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted
 
 Hi,
 
 I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good.
 
 Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by
 specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity
 takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the
 holder of these opinions.  So here are some of my opinions.
 
 I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96.  There were occasional
 problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system
 were rebooted.  I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really
 got behind the problem.
 
 I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7.  The control
 pannel, delivered with the latest
 revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However
 when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price
 also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years
 ago.  Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper.
 
 Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8
 GB ram, and 1 TB HD.
 
 The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is
 quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with.
 
 Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when
 changing settings.  There are settings in the control pannel, that are
 not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it.
 
 I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots
 only.  The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although
 there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes
 it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which
 will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they
 are blowing so life is limited.
 
 This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam.
 
 I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers.
 shame.
 
 So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I
 already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds.
 
 Then we should be good to go as they say.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500
 Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high
 definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip.  Last year
 I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor.  It had built in
 high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the
 M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my
 XP machine.  I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the
 screen reader audio and music independently.  About a month ago, I
 bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including
 shipping.  It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone
 inputs, the latter with a pre-amp.  It is compatible with windows 8.1
 and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with
 JAWS.  Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed.  Normally, this
 retails for about $200.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in
 Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to
 import it so I will import if I can't get the device 

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Kelly - don't know whether its he or she smile - is entitled to a view but 
again I think its being just plain picky.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 1:40 pm, Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess you are correct. Isn't it like $600?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly 
 Pierce
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 9:32 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives 
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB file 
 transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with windows 8.1, 
 people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  I want a device that 
 is future focused and ready for the computers of today and tomorrow not 
 geared for a computing environment of yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 
 was released as an official specification.  It is fully backward compatible 
 and supports connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.
 
 The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification sheet.  
 Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an FM radio was 
 in its previous generation portable book reader.
 Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just because I 
 bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I should buy the 
 replacement device from them.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM 
 radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is 
 bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio.
 
 The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting 
 one of these into their products is because they can, a bit like 
 Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they 
 particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because 
 Tecsun can do it.
 
 Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more 
 appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the 
 BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense 
 is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it 
 in stereo mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up 
 weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player 
 thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
 Text
 
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope 
 will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and 
 Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say 
 Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM 
 radio, what's the use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins 
 adriencollins22...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget 
 will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet 
 radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the 
 ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device 
 what else would cover these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
 Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios on 
 the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your 
 moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual smile.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that its 
 $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and ordered one 
 just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and see the reviews on it 
 sence i already have a booksence that i payed $500 for and i just 
 don't know if i'd get my monys worth from buying the 

How To Use The Zoom H1 recorder

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

Meant to send this earlier today but urgent medical issues required my 
attention smile, all back in working order now.

Since the the excellent review of the Zoom H1 recorder conducted by Neal Hewes 
is unavailable at the present I had to look for the next best thing, here's 
what I found on Youtube, thought others may be interested in this little 
tutorial on this excellent powerhouse of an audio recording device.
How to use the Zoom H1 Handy Recorder - YouTube


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RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Adrien Collins
Hi Peter

I agree with you, I don't like touch screens, I much prefer
proper buttons, I will be watching to see how this gadget
develops.

Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Scanlon
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:15 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text

I don't want a FM Radio, but the internet radio was what I
wanted.
I want all in one device.
I hear you say, get an IPhone,. Well I want something with
real buttons 
rather than touch screen. And I see no reason why Himms or
someone could not 
make such a device which also includes a phone.

P.


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:32 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player thatGives 
Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed
Text

I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that
they hope will 
appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM
and Internet 
radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say
Yesterday that 
they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio,
what's the use!

On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins
adriencollins22...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi

 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am
only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.

 Regards

 Adrien


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text

 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
 manual smile.


 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i
would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.

 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 for everyones information on price. i just looked at
the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after
that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free
shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence
that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's
worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.

 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.

 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear
what
 others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to
get
 one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
 judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're
 going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
 machine in the weeks and months ahead.

 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:

 well it clames it has internet radio listening
 cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
 radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if
i'll
 drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because
they
 charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike
 other technology these things don't go down in price. so
if
 you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
 matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
 counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
 Ootunes like the victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
 Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
 Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence
when
 it came out i
 figured this thing would 

RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

2014-06-01 Thread Adrien Collins
Hi Dane

I wish, an all in one device.

Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text

And a coffee maker too!

On 2 Jun 2014, at 8:15 am, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au
wrote:

 I don't want a FM Radio, but the internet radio was what I
wanted.
 I want all in one device.
 I hear you say, get an IPhone,. Well I want something with
real buttons rather than touch screen. And I see no reason
why Himms or someone could not make such a device which also
includes a phone.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:32 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device
that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could
well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe
my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were
going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the
use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins
adriencollins22...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we
already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am
only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
 Access to Printed Text
 
 I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
 radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
 product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC
2E
 manual smile.
 
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i
would
 rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
 On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 sorry about repeating everything you wrote smile.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis
dennis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 for everyones information on price. i just looked at
the
 website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after
that
 its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free
shipping.
 it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and
 ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and
 see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence
that
 i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my
monys
 worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's
worth.
 On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
 documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook,
 Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S,
Prizmo
 and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much
better
 than the other solutions before I would buy it.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
 gera1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay
attention
 to the past thread, thus missed it.
 
 El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
 Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear
what
 others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to
get
 one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but -
 judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier -
we're
 going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this
 machine in the weeks and months ahead.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
 Dennisdennis...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 well it clames it has internet radio listening
 cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm
 radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if
i'll
 drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because
they
 charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is
unlike
 other technology these things don't go down in price. so
if
 you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't
 matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are
 counting on a lot of agency perchases.
 On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
 Ootunes like the victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
 Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired
 Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence
when
 it came out i
 figured