Re: Audio bluetooth

[Steve Matzura]

With all this talk of Bluetooth with the front end being analog, is
there a USB front end that would appear to the PC as just another
sound card, and you simply adjust your player to play to that port
instead of, your SB or whatever you have?

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Re: Audio bluetooth

[Kenbu]

Hello there Frank; Another lister here; excuse the ignorance, but what is a 
blue tooth whatever? Ken b
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ventura" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Not sure how cludgy this solution is but Jabra makes a device called the
cruiser which is primarily designed for use in cars with Bluetoooth cell
phones but what it will do is take a Bluetooth stereo output and
rebroadcast it to a FM receiver. The idea is that when a call comes in
you can turn the Jabra on and hear the output from the phone on your
cars FM stereo. It could also be used at home to take Bluetooth audio
from computers, laptops, etc to a FM receiver.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which
take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug
into the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen
reviews of them.

as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth
speakers, not saying that one approach is better than the other but
that's what I'm doing.

As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well
that's a bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've
ever set up with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so
I've just had to confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing
code on the Iphone which I've known in advance.


On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:


High Dain.,
Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo

system?

John.
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"



To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth



you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we

started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's
talking about Bluetooth?




DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

Hello all list members,
I think I'm missing something here.
But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm

receiver?

I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are

here.

John.
- Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen"



To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box

experience for

the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org

[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth

profile by

default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth

uses

the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
sounds really bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable

for

ordinary audio.

At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get

with

an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never

want

anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my

particular

rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth.

I

found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving

features

frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for

sports more

than anything.


BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that

I

use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to

listen

to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my

previous

experience.





--

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>



--

--


On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's true.  No

SV: Audio bluetooth

[Anders Holmberg]

Hello!
Hmm, this sounds intresting.
However i think i stick with my sennheiser rs140 for now.
They last for a long time (20 hours).
Also you can move outside the appartment with them.
/Anders.

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Skickat: den 21 januari 2010 12:27
Till: PC Audio Discussion List
Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth


Not sure how cludgy this solution is but Jabra makes a device called the
cruiser which is primarily designed for use in cars with Bluetoooth cell
phones but what it will do is take a Bluetooth stereo output and rebroadcast
it to a FM receiver. The idea is that when a call comes in you can turn the
Jabra on and hear the output from the phone on your cars FM stereo. It could
also be used at home to take Bluetooth audio from computers, laptops, etc to
a FM receiver. Frank

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which
take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug into
the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen reviews of
them.

as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth speakers,
not saying that one approach is better than the other but that's what I'm
doing.

As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well that's a
bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've ever set up
with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so I've just had to
confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing code on the Iphone
which I've known in advance.


On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Dain.,
> Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
> But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo
system?
> John.
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"

> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> 
>> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we
started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who wants
to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's talking
about Bluetooth?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>> Hello all list members,
>>> I think I'm missing something here.
>>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm
receiver?
>>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are
here.
>>> John.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen"

>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Ah cool.
>>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box
experience for
>>>> the user.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>> 
>>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth
profile by
>>>> default.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth
uses
>>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply 
>>>>> sounds really bad. There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 
>>>>> standard a very nice profile for stereo transmition that most 
>>>>> users will find sutable
for
>>>> ordinary audio.
>>>>> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get
with
>>>>> an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never
want
>>>>> anything but good cables. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>&g

RE: Audio bluetooth

[Frank Ventura]

Hi the Jabra Cruiser is in current production so it should be easy to
find at the usual retail places like NewEgg and Best Buy and of course
on EBay.
Frank


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

High Frank,
Where can I find this device you're talking about?
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ventura" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth


> Not sure how cludgy this solution is but Jabra makes a device called
the
> cruiser which is primarily designed for use in cars with Bluetoooth
cell
> phones but what it will do is take a Bluetooth stereo output and
> rebroadcast it to a FM receiver. The idea is that when a call comes in
> you can turn the Jabra on and hear the output from the phone on your
> cars FM stereo. It could also be used at home to take Bluetooth audio
> from computers, laptops, etc to a FM receiver.
> Frank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around
which
> take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug
> into the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen
> reviews of them.
> 
> as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth
> speakers, not saying that one approach is better than the other but
> that's what I'm doing.
> 
> As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well
> that's a bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've
> ever set up with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone
so
> I've just had to confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing
> code on the Iphone which I've known in advance.
> 
> 
> On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
> 
>> High Dain.,
>> Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
>> But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo
> system?
>> John.
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"
> 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>> 
>> 
>>> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we
> started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with
FM
> transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who
> wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when
someone's
> talking about Bluetooth?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>>> Hello all list members,
>>>> I think I'm missing something here.
>>>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm
> receiver?
>>>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are
> here.
>>>> John.
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen"
> 
>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Ah cool.
>>>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box
> experience for
>>>>> the user.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth
> profile by
>>>>> default.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth
> uses
>>>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
>>>>>> sounds really bad.
>>>>>> There are, however, 

Re: Audio bluetooth

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Frank,
Where can I find this device you're talking about?
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ventura" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Not sure how cludgy this solution is but Jabra makes a device called the
cruiser which is primarily designed for use in cars with Bluetoooth cell
phones but what it will do is take a Bluetooth stereo output and
rebroadcast it to a FM receiver. The idea is that when a call comes in
you can turn the Jabra on and hear the output from the phone on your
cars FM stereo. It could also be used at home to take Bluetooth audio
from computers, laptops, etc to a FM receiver.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which
take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug
into the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen
reviews of them.

as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth
speakers, not saying that one approach is better than the other but
that's what I'm doing.

As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well
that's a bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've
ever set up with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so
I've just had to confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing
code on the Iphone which I've known in advance.


On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:


High Dain.,
Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo

system?

John.
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"



To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth



you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we

started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's
talking about Bluetooth?




DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

Hello all list members,
I think I'm missing something here.
But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm

receiver?

I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are

here.

John.
- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Olesen"



To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box

experience for

the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org

[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth

profile by

default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth

uses

the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
sounds really bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable

for

ordinary audio.

At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get

with

an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never

want

anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my

particular

rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth.

I

found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving

features

frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for

sports more

than anything.


BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that

I

use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to

listen

to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my

previous

experience.





--

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>



--

--


On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's true.  Now i don't know much about 

RE: Audio bluetooth

[Frank Ventura]

Not sure how cludgy this solution is but Jabra makes a device called the
cruiser which is primarily designed for use in cars with Bluetoooth cell
phones but what it will do is take a Bluetooth stereo output and
rebroadcast it to a FM receiver. The idea is that when a call comes in
you can turn the Jabra on and hear the output from the phone on your
cars FM stereo. It could also be used at home to take Bluetooth audio
from computers, laptops, etc to a FM receiver.
Frank

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which
take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug
into the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen
reviews of them.

as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth
speakers, not saying that one approach is better than the other but
that's what I'm doing.

As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well
that's a bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've
ever set up with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so
I've just had to confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing
code on the Iphone which I've known in advance.


On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Dain.,
> Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
> But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo
system?
> John.
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"

> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> 
>> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we
started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's
talking about Bluetooth?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>> Hello all list members,
>>> I think I'm missing something here.
>>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm
receiver?
>>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are
here.
>>> John.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen"

>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Ah cool.
>>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box
experience for
>>>> the user.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>> 
>>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth
profile by
>>>> default.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth
uses
>>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
>>>>> sounds really bad.
>>>>> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
>>>>> profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable
for
>>>> ordinary audio.
>>>>> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get
with
>>>>> an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never
want
>>>>> anything but good cables. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>> 
>>>>> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
>>>>> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my
particular
>>>>> rig,

RE: SV: Audio bluetooth

[Brian Olesen]

Hi anders
Creative has some. Sony also and even Logitech.
But let me tell you this.
A chain isn't stronger then it's weakest link.
Meaning that if you want good sound then you have to ensure the signal flow
is of good quality all the way from the source to your ears.

Best regards
brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: 20. januar 2010 17:38
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: SV: Audio bluetooth

Hello!
Hmm, what i meant was a chordless headphone transmitting over fm or such
bands.
Bluetooth are digitally broadcasted so i gues there is no need for it there
for me.
/Anders.

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Skickat: den 20 januari 2010 00:53
Till: PC Audio Discussion List
Ämne: Re: SV: Audio bluetooth


You're probably looking for more information than this, but there are
definitely noise canceling bluetooth headphones. I don't have any experience
with them myself, but I've seen this feature when shopping for bluetooth
headphones, and doing a quick search lead to quite a few hits. BTW, I don't
think noise canceling refers to noise over the bluetooth connection, such as
a hiss or anything, but rather environmental background noise, such as a
fan, AC, vacuum cleaner, engine 

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com



On 1/19/2010 2:44 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi!
> Are there any chordless noise canceling phones?
> THat would be great.
> A/nders.
>
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> För Brian Olesen
> Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 21:24
> Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth
>
>
> Hi anders,
> Oh I can truthfully understand this.
> Maybe you should go for some noise canceling headphones to replace 
> your scenheisers.
>
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: 19. januar 2010 18:47
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: SV: Audio bluetooth
>
> Hello!
> And if you should buy good cables you have to pay for them with money 
> you do not have-) At least this is true for me. I whish my sennheiser 
> rs145 whireless headphones had bluetooth or was at least digital so i 
> could listen without having this his in my ears. I can live without 
> his. I have it anyway all the time due to tinnitus. Best! /Anders.
>
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> För Brian Olesen
> Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 11:40
> Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth
>
>
> Hi,
> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses 
> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply 
> sounds really bad. There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 
> standard a very nice profile for stereo transmition that most users 
> will find sutable for ordinary audio. At least you don't get this 
> annoying hissing sound you always get with an fm transmitter. But if 
> you're a real hifi freak you'd never want anything but good cables. 
> :-)
>
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>
> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through 
> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular 
> rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I 
> found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features 
> frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
> more than anything.
>
> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I 
> use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen 
> to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous 
> experience.
>
>
> --
> --
>
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
>
> --
> --
>
>
> On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>
>> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm 
>> thinking of
>>  
> using it with my Iphon

SV: SV: Audio bluetooth

[Anders Holmberg]

Hello!
Hmm, what i meant was a chordless headphone transmitting over fm or such
bands.
Bluetooth are digitally broadcasted so i gues there is no need for it there
for me.
/Anders.

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Skickat: den 20 januari 2010 00:53
Till: PC Audio Discussion List
Ämne: Re: SV: Audio bluetooth


You're probably looking for more information than this, but there are 
definitely noise canceling bluetooth headphones. I don't have any 
experience with them myself, but I've seen this feature when shopping 
for bluetooth headphones, and doing a quick search lead to quite a few 
hits. BTW, I don't think noise canceling refers to noise over the 
bluetooth connection, such as a hiss or anything, but rather 
environmental background noise, such as a fan, AC, vacuum cleaner, 
engine 

-- 
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com



On 1/19/2010 2:44 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
> Hi!
> Are there any chordless noise canceling phones?
> THat would be great.
> A/nders.
>
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> För Brian Olesen
> Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 21:24
> Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth
>
>
> Hi anders,
> Oh I can truthfully understand this.
> Maybe you should go for some noise canceling headphones to replace 
> your scenheisers.
>
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: 19. januar 2010 18:47
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: SV: Audio bluetooth
>
> Hello!
> And if you should buy good cables you have to pay for them with money 
> you do not have-) At least this is true for me. I whish my sennheiser 
> rs145 whireless headphones had bluetooth or was at least digital so i 
> could listen without having this his in my ears. I can live without 
> his. I have it anyway all the time due to tinnitus. Best! /Anders.
>
> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> För Brian Olesen
> Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 11:40
> Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth
>
>
> Hi,
> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses 
> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply 
> sounds really bad. There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 
> standard a very nice profile for stereo transmition that most users 
> will find sutable for ordinary audio. At least you don't get this 
> annoying hissing sound you always get with an fm transmitter. But if 
> you're a real hifi freak you'd never want anything but good cables. 
> :-)
>
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>
> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through 
> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular 
> rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I 
> found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features 
> frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
> more than anything.
>
> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I 
> use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen 
> to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous 
> experience.
>
>
> --
> --
>
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
>
> --
> --
>
>
> On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>
>> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm 
>> thinking of
>>  
> using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free 
> kit and bluetooth headphones.
>
>> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good 
>> but I
>>  
> believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in 
> leaps and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>
>>
>> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>
>>
>>  
>>> Hi,
>>> Not correct.
>>> Hifi vendors p

Re: Audio bluetooth

[Christopher Chaltain]

I can't look up the numbers right now, and although I would think wifi 
bandwidth is greater than bluetooth bandwidth, I wouldn't think this 
would be the issue. I would think either would be more than adequate to 
handle a single audio stream. To me, I was experiencing more of a 
clipping sound that sounded like some power saving feature was kicking 
in on the transmitter or the receiver. It was probably the receiver in 
my case since I was using bluetooth headphones. When you're stretching 
the limits of the technology, such as being about 30 feet away on your 
typical bluetooth connection, you'll also start experiencing data loss. 
Note that when I switched to a new pair of bluetooth headphones and used 
them with my cell phone as a stereo bluetooth connection, the results 
were much better.


I think you're true audiophile is going to want to skip all of this 
wireless stuff anyway and stick with good high quality hard wires. I'm 
too old to be an audiophile anymore myself though, so I go with convenience.


--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com



On 1/19/2010 11:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I think the problem with bluetooth is that the band width isn't as good as say 
a Wi-Fi connection, would this be right?


On 20/01/2010, at 3:03 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

   

Hi john,
Well it works more or less like a virtual cable betwean your analog audio
devices.
For example you can with the transmitting unit send the line out from a unit
to your line in on another unit.
The sound remains in the digital world until it's been converted by the
receiver.

Best regards
Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 19. januar 2010 15:50
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

High Dain.,
Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo system?
  John.
- Original Message -
From: "Dane Trethowan"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth


 

you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we
started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's
talking about Bluetooth?



DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
   

Hello all list members,
I think I'm missing something here.
But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
John.
- Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen"
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth


 

Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience
for
the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile
by
default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

   

Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
sounds really bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
 

ordinary audio.
   

At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports
more
 

than anything.
   

BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous
 

experience.
   


--
--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>

---

Re: SV: Audio bluetooth

[Christopher Chaltain]

You're probably looking for more information than this, but there are 
definitely noise canceling bluetooth headphones. I don't have any 
experience with them myself, but I've seen this feature when shopping 
for bluetooth headphones, and doing a quick search lead to quite a few 
hits. BTW, I don't think noise canceling refers to noise over the 
bluetooth connection, such as a hiss or anything, but rather 
environmental background noise, such as a fan, AC, vacuum cleaner, 
engine 


--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com



On 1/19/2010 2:44 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Are there any chordless noise canceling phones?
THat would be great.
A/nders.

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
För Brian Olesen
Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 21:24
Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth


Hi anders,
Oh I can truthfully understand this.
Maybe you should go for some noise canceling headphones to replace your
scenheisers.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: 19. januar 2010 18:47
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Audio bluetooth

Hello!
And if you should buy good cables you have to pay for them with money you do
not have-) At least this is true for me. I whish my sennheiser rs145
whireless headphones had bluetooth or was at least digital so i could listen
without having this his in my ears. I can live without his. I have it anyway
all the time due to tinnitus. Best! /Anders.

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
För Brian Olesen
Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 11:40
Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses the
audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply sounds really
bad. There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
ordinary audio. At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you
always get with an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd
never want anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through bluetooth
wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular rig, since I see
a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I found it was hard to use
with JAWS too since the power saving features frequently had words being
chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more than anything.

BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I use
with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen to music
yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous experience.




Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
   

That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
thinking of
 

using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit
and bluetooth headphones.
   

I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but
I
 

believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps
and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
   


On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:


 

Hi,
Not correct.
Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
over a distance of 100 ft or more.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter

You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and
things like that.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:


   

ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all
my stereo units in my home? then?
btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Olesen"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter


hi,
well go bluetooth instead of fm.

Brian

- Original Message -
From: "David McLean"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, January

SV: Audio bluetooth

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Are there any chordless noise canceling phones?
THat would be great.
A/nders.

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
För Brian Olesen
Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 21:24
Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth


Hi anders,
Oh I can truthfully understand this.
Maybe you should go for some noise canceling headphones to replace your
scenheisers.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: 19. januar 2010 18:47
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Audio bluetooth

Hello!
And if you should buy good cables you have to pay for them with money you do
not have-) At least this is true for me. I whish my sennheiser rs145
whireless headphones had bluetooth or was at least digital so i could listen
without having this his in my ears. I can live without his. I have it anyway
all the time due to tinnitus. Best! /Anders.

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
För Brian Olesen
Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 11:40
Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses the
audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply sounds really
bad. There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
ordinary audio. At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you
always get with an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd
never want anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through bluetooth
wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular rig, since I see
a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I found it was hard to use
with JAWS too since the power saving features frequently had words being
chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more than anything.

BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I use
with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen to music
yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous experience.




Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
> thinking of
using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit
and bluetooth headphones.
>
> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but
> I
believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps
and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>
>
> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Not correct.
>> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
>> over a distance of 100 ft or more.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>
>> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
>> meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and 
>> things like that.
>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all
>>> my stereo units in my home? then?
>>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Brian Olesen"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David McLean"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I assume you have one of these un

RE: Audio bluetooth

[Brian Olesen]

Hi anders,
Oh I can truthfully understand this.
Maybe you should go for some noise canceling headphones to replace your
scenheisers.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: 19. januar 2010 18:47
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Audio bluetooth

Hello!
And if you should buy good cables you have to pay for them with money you do
not have-) At least this is true for me.
I whish my sennheiser rs145 whireless headphones had bluetooth or was at
least digital so i could listen without having this his in my ears.
I can live without his.
I have it anyway all the time due to tinnitus.
Best!
/Anders.

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
För Brian Olesen
Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 11:40
Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses the
audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply sounds really
bad. There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
ordinary audio. At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you
always get with an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd
never want anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through bluetooth
wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular rig, since I see
a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I found it was hard to use
with JAWS too since the power saving features frequently had words being
chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more than anything.

BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I use
with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen to music
yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous experience.




Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm 
> thinking of
using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit
and bluetooth headphones.
>
> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but 
> I
believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps
and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>
>
> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Not correct.
>> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound 
>> over a distance of 100 ft or more.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>
>> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really 
>> meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and 
>> things like that.
>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all 
>>> my stereo units in my home? then?
>>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Brian Olesen"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David McLean"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I assume you have one of these units?
>>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote 
>>>>> control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing 

SV: Audio bluetooth

[Anders Holmberg]

Hello!
And if you should buy good cables you have to pay for them with money you do
not have-)
At least this is true for me.
I whish my sennheiser rs145 whireless headphones had bluetooth or was at
least digital so i could listen without having this his in my ears.
I can live without his.
I have it anyway all the time due to tinnitus.
Best!
/Anders.

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
För Brian Olesen
Skickat: den 19 januari 2010 11:40
Till: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Ämne: RE: Audio bluetooth


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses the
audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply sounds really
bad. There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
ordinary audio. At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you
always get with an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd
never want anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through bluetooth
wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular rig, since I see
a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I found it was hard to use
with JAWS too since the power saving features frequently had words being
chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more than anything.

BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I use
with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen to music
yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous experience.




Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm 
> thinking of
using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit
and bluetooth headphones.
>
> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but 
> I
believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps
and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>
>
> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Not correct.
>> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
>> over a distance of 100 ft or more.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>
>> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
>> meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and 
>> things like that.
>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all
>>> my stereo units in my home? then?
>>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Brian Olesen"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David McLean"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I assume you have one of these units?
>>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote
>>>>> control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up 
>>>>> and down buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than on the
back.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and
>>>>> the frequency will remain stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will
>>>

Re: Audio bluetooth

[Dane Trethowan]

I think the problem with bluetooth is that the band width isn't as good as say 
a Wi-Fi connection, would this be right?


On 20/01/2010, at 3:03 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

> Hi john,
> Well it works more or less like a virtual cable betwean your analog audio
> devices.
> For example you can with the transmitting unit send the line out from a unit
> to your line in on another unit.
> The sound remains in the digital world until it's been converted by the
> receiver.
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
> Sent: 19. januar 2010 15:50
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> High Dain.,
> Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
> But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo system?
>  John.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> 
>> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we 
>> started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM 
>> transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who 
>> wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's 
>> talking about Bluetooth?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>> Hello all list members,
>>> I think I'm missing something here.
>>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
>>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
>>> John.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" 
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Ah cool.
>>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience 
>>>> for
>>>> the user.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>> 
>>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile 
>>>> by
>>>> default.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
>>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
>>>>> sounds really bad.
>>>>> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
>>>>> profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
>>>> ordinary audio.
>>>>> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
>>>>> an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
>>>>> anything but good cables. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>> 
>>>>> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
>>>>> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
>>>>> rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
>>>>> found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
>>>>> frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
>>>>> more
>>>> than anything.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
>>>>> use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
>>>>> to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous
>>>&

Re: Audio bluetooth

[Dane Trethowan]

The sound quality is supposed to be very good now, it wasn't all that long ago 
that I would have had no hesitation in steering clear of bluetooth for 
listening to stereo music.  Again, something I'm not all that familiar with 
right now but I soon will be!


On 20/01/2010, at 2:25 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Dain,
> I don't know how true this is, but I am told that with a Verizon Wireless 
> cell phone, you have to go in to the blue tooth menu.
> Then, you'd have to key in a password for the blue tooth device that you wish 
> to use with that cell phone.
> After that, it's all systems go.
> That's ok for a hands free device, but what about listening to music using 
> such devices?
> What I mean is, how good is the sound quality?
> John.
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> 
>> I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which 
>> take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug into 
>> the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen reviews of 
>> them.
>> 
>> as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth speakers, 
>> not saying that one approach is better than the other but that's what I'm 
>> doing.
>> 
>> As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well that's a 
>> bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've ever set up 
>> with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so I've just had to 
>> confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing code on the Iphone 
>> which I've known in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>> 
>>> High Dain.,
>>> Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
>>> But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo system?
>>> John.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> 
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we 
>>>> started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM 
>>>> transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who 
>>>> wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's 
>>>> talking about Bluetooth?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>>>> Hello all list members,
>>>>> I think I'm missing something here.
>>>>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
>>>>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
>>>>> John.
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" 
>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Ah cool.
>>>>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the user.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile by
>>>>>> default.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
>>>>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
>>>>>>> sounds really bad.
>>>>>>> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice

RE: Audio bluetooth

[Brian Olesen]

Hi john,
Well it works more or less like a virtual cable betwean your analog audio
devices.
For example you can with the transmitting unit send the line out from a unit
to your line in on another unit.
The sound remains in the digital world until it's been converted by the
receiver.

Best regards
Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: 19. januar 2010 15:50
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

High Dain.,
Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo system?
  John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth


> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we 
> started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM 
> transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who 
> wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's 
> talking about Bluetooth?
>
>
>
> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>> Hello all list members,
>> I think I'm missing something here.
>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
>> John.
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Brian Olesen" 
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Ah cool.
>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience 
>>> for
>>> the user.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>
>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile 
>>> by
>>> default.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
>>>> sounds really bad.
>>>> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
>>>> profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
>>> ordinary audio.
>>>> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
>>>> an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
>>>> anything but good cables. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>
>>>> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
>>>> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
>>>> rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
>>>> found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
>>>> frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
>>>> more
>>> than anything.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
>>>> use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
>>>> to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous
>>> experience.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> Christopher
>>>> chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
>>>>> thinking of
>>&g

Re: Audio bluetooth

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Dain,
I don't know how true this is, but I am told that with a Verizon Wireless 
cell phone, you have to go in to the blue tooth menu.
Then, you'd have to key in a password for the blue tooth device that you 
wish to use with that cell phone.

After that, it's all systems go.
That's ok for a hands free device, but what about listening to music using 
such devices?

What I mean is, how good is the sound quality?
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth


I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which 
take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug into 
the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen reviews of 
them.


as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth 
speakers, not saying that one approach is better than the other but that's 
what I'm doing.


As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well that's 
a bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've ever set up 
with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so I've just had 
to confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing code on the Iphone 
which I've known in advance.



On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:


High Dain.,
Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo 
system?

John.
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth


you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we 
started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM 
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who 
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's 
talking about Bluetooth?




DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

Hello all list members,
I think I'm missing something here.
But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
John.
- Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box 
experience for

the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile 
by

default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
sounds really bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for

ordinary audio.
At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get 
with

an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving 
features
frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
more

than anything.


BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to 
listen

to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous

experience.



--
--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>

--
--


On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
thinking of
using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands 
free

kit and bluetooth headphones.


I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good
but I

believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in
leaps and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers

Re: Audio bluetooth

[Dane Trethowan]

I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which take a 
signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug into the line in 
of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen reviews of them.

as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth speakers, 
not saying that one approach is better than the other but that's what I'm doing.

As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well that's a 
bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've ever set up with 
my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so I've just had to confirm 
them and - in some cases - type in a pairing code on the Iphone which I've 
known in advance.


On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Dain.,
> Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
> But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo system?
> John.
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> 
>> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we started 
>> talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM transmitters 
>> - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who wants to see a 
>> subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's talking about 
>> Bluetooth?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>> Hello all list members,
>>> I think I'm missing something here.
>>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
>>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
>>> John.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" 
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Ah cool.
>>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience for
>>>> the user.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>> 
>>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile by
>>>> default.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
>>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
>>>>> sounds really bad.
>>>>> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
>>>>> profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
>>>> ordinary audio.
>>>>> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
>>>>> an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
>>>>> anything but good cables. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>> 
>>>>> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
>>>>> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
>>>>> rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
>>>>> found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
>>>>> frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more
>>>> than anything.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
>>>>> use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
>>>>> to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous
>>>> experience.
>>>>> 
>>>>&g

Re: Audio bluetooth

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Dain.,
Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo system?
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth


you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we 
started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM 
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who 
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's 
talking about Bluetooth?




DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

Hello all list members,
I think I'm missing something here.
But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
John.
- Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience 
for

the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile 
by

default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
sounds really bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for

ordinary audio.

At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
more

than anything.


BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous

experience.



--
--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>

--
--


On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
thinking of

using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free
kit and bluetooth headphones.


I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good
but I

believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in
leaps and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!



On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:



Hi,
Not correct.
Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
over a distance of 100 ft or more.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter

You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and
things like that.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:



ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to
all my stereo units in my home? then?
btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Olesen"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter


hi,
well go bluetooth instead of fm.

Brian

- Original Message -
From: "David McLean"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter




I assume you have one of these units?
On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:




The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote
control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up
and down buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than
on t

Re: Audio bluetooth

[Dane Trethowan]

you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we 
started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM 
transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who 
wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's 
talking about Bluetooth?




DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

Hello all list members,
I think I'm missing something here.
But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
John.
- Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box 
experience for

the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth 
profile by

default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
sounds really bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for

ordinary audio.

At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for 
sports more

than anything.


BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous

experience.



--
--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>

--
--


On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
thinking of

using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free
kit and bluetooth headphones.


I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good
but I

believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in
leaps and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!



On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:



Hi,
Not correct.
Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
over a distance of 100 ft or more.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter

You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and
things like that.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:



ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to
all my stereo units in my home? then?
btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Olesen"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter


hi,
well go bluetooth instead of fm.

Brian

- Original Message -
From: "David McLean"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter




I assume you have one of these units?
On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:




The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote
control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up
and down buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than
on the

back.


It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and
the frequency will remain stable.

If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will
transmit up to 300 yards without significant degradation of 
signal.


Bob Nelson


- Original Message -
From: "Bob Seed"
To: "

Re: Audio bluetooth

[DJ DOCTOR P]

Hello all list members,
I think I'm missing something here.
But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Olesen" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth



Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience 
for

the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile by
default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:


Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
sounds really bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for

ordinary audio.

At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
anything but good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
more

than anything.


BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous

experience.



--
--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>

--
--


On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
thinking of

using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free
kit and bluetooth headphones.


I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good
but I

believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in
leaps and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!



On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:



Hi,
Not correct.
Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
over a distance of 100 ft or more.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter

You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and
things like that.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:



ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to
all my stereo units in my home? then?
btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Olesen"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter


hi,
well go bluetooth instead of fm.

Brian

- Original Message -
From: "David McLean"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter




I assume you have one of these units?
On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:




The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote
control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up
and down buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than
on the

back.


It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and
the frequency will remain stable.

If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will
transmit up to 300 yards without significant degradation of signal.

Bob Nelson


- Original Message -
From: "Bob Seed"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter



   HI PERFORMANCE FM-100MWS-LCD-E

   Digital PLL FM stereo transmitter

   ONLY $345 USD



   12 Volt Power Supply

   Our New FM-100mW-LCD unit is ready to go and comes complete
with a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt
power sup

RE: Audio bluetooth

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
Ah cool.
Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience for
the user.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile by
default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

> Hi,
> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses 
> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply 
> sounds really bad.
> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice 
> profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
ordinary audio.
> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with 
> an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want 
> anything but good cables. :-)
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through 
> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular 
> rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I 
> found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features 
> frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more
than anything.
> 
> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I 
> use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen 
> to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous
experience.
> 
> 
> --
> --
> 
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
> 
> --
> --
> 
> 
> On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm 
>> thinking of
> using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free 
> kit and bluetooth headphones.
>> 
>> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good 
>> but I
> believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in 
> leaps and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Not correct.
>>> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound 
>>> over a distance of 100 ft or more.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>>> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>> 
>>> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really 
>>> meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and 
>>> things like that.
>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to 
>>>> all my stereo units in my home? then?
>>>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Brian Olesen"
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> hi,
>>>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "David McLean"
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I assume you have one of these units?
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote 
>>>>>> control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up 
>>>>

Re: Audio bluetooth

[Dane Trethowan]

Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile by 
default.


On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

> Hi,
> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses the
> audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply sounds really
> bad.
> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice profile for
> stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for ordinary audio.
> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with an fm
> transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want anything but
> good cables. :-)
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through bluetooth
> wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular rig, since I see
> a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I found it was hard to use
> with JAWS too since the power saving features frequently had words being
> chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more than anything.
> 
> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I use
> with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen to music
> yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous experience.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm thinking of
> using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit
> and bluetooth headphones.
>> 
>> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but I
> believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps
> and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Not correct.
>>> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound 
>>> over a distance of 100 ft or more.
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>>> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>> 
>>> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really 
>>> meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and 
>>> things like that.
>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all 
>>>> my stereo units in my home? then?
>>>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Brian Olesen"
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> hi,
>>>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "David McLean"
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I assume you have one of these units?
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote 
>>>>>> control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up 
>>>>>> and down buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than on the
> back.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and 
>>>>>> the frequency will remain stable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up 

RE: Audio bluetooth

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses the
audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply sounds really
bad.
There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice profile for
stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for ordinary audio.
At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with an fm
transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want anything but
good cables. :-)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through bluetooth
wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular rig, since I see
a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I found it was hard to use
with JAWS too since the power saving features frequently had words being
chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more than anything.

BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I use
with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen to music
yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous experience.




Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>




On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm thinking of
using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit
and bluetooth headphones.
>
> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but I
believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps
and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>
>
> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Not correct.
>> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound 
>> over a distance of 100 ft or more.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>
>> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really 
>> meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and 
>> things like that.
>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all 
>>> my stereo units in my home? then?
>>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Brian Olesen"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "David McLean"
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I assume you have one of these units?
>>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote 
>>>>> control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up 
>>>>> and down buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than on the
back.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and 
>>>>> the frequency will remain stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will 
>>>>> transmit up to 300 yards without significant degradation of signal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Nelson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Bob Seed"
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:00 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HI PERFORMANCE FM-100MWS-LCD-E
>>>>>
>&

Re: Audio bluetooth

[Christopher Chaltain]

My experience in the past has been that audio quality through bluetooth 
wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular rig, since I 
see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I found it was 
hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features frequently had 
words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports more than anything.


BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I use 
with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen to 
music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous 
experience.





Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com 




On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm thinking of 
using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit and 
bluetooth headphones.

I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but I 
believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps and 
bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!


On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

   

Hi,
Not correct.
Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound over a
distance of 100 ft or more.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter

You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really meant
for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and things like
that.
On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:

 

ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all
my stereo units in my home? then?
btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Olesen"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter


hi,
well go bluetooth instead of fm.

Brian

- Original Message -
From: "David McLean"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter


   

I assume you have one of these units?
On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:

 


The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote control
that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up and down
buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than on the back.

It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and the
frequency will remain stable.

If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will
transmit up to 300 yards without significant degradation of signal.

Bob Nelson


- Original Message -
From: "Bob Seed"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: best fm transmitter



HI PERFORMANCE FM-100MWS-LCD-E

Digital PLL FM stereo transmitter

ONLY $345 USD



12 Volt Power Supply

Our New FM-100mW-LCD unit is ready to go and comes complete with
a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power
supply that works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.

All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA
inputs on the back of the unit, and you are on the air!



This NEW 100 milliwatt FM stereo transmitter will well out
perform most of the low cost units on the market since it was
carefully designed to pass even the very lowest audio frequencies
down to 20 Hz and up to 15 KHz for the high frequencies.  Believe
me, this unit sounds just like the big stations!  Excellent base and
highs!!!
Its highly accurate crystal reference and PLL circuitry ensure you
will have a very stable signal at all times.   The frequencies can
   

easily
 

be
selected by pushing the recessed buttons using a paper clip wire.
The frequency range is 88 to 108 MHz and the channel resolution is
100KHz.  I should also mention that the stereo separation is
excellent!  We tested this unit against 4 other stereo unit that did
not even come close.
The unit is housed in a very nice extruded aluminum enclosure
that shields the unit.  No cheap plastic box used here!  For more
range a high gain antenna could be used and connected to the
standard BNC connector on the back of the unit.

If you are seriously looking for a high performance Stereo
transmitter, this is definitely the one!



- Original Message -
From: "Sunshine"
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:26 AM
Subject: best fm transmitter


   

I am looking for an fm transmitter to use with the computer.
what  are the best ones to consider,a nd what are the prices, and
where can i buy them?
please let me know.
Also what are your experiences with the uni

Audio bluetooth

[Dane Trethowan]

That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm thinking of 
using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free kit and 
bluetooth headphones.

I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good but I 
believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in leaps and 
bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!


On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

> Hi,
> Not correct.
> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound over a
> distance of 100 ft or more.
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
> 
> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really meant
> for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and things like
> that.
> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
> 
>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to all 
>> my stereo units in my home? then?
>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brian Olesen" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>> 
>> 
>> hi,
>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "David McLean" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>> 
>> 
>>> I assume you have one of these units?
>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote control 
 that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up and down 
 buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than on the back.
 
 It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and the 
 frequency will remain stable.
 
 If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will 
 transmit up to 300 yards without significant degradation of signal.
 
 Bob Nelson
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bob Seed" 
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:00 AM
 Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
 
 
 
HI PERFORMANCE FM-100MWS-LCD-E
 
Digital PLL FM stereo transmitter
 
ONLY $345 USD
 
 
 
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Our New FM-100mW-LCD unit is ready to go and comes complete with 
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All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA 
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This NEW 100 milliwatt FM stereo transmitter will well out 
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Its highly accurate crystal reference and PLL circuitry ensure you
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> easily
 be
 selected by pushing the recessed buttons using a paper clip wire.  
 The frequency range is 88 to 108 MHz and the channel resolution is 
 100KHz.  I should also mention that the stereo separation is 
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The unit is housed in a very nice extruded aluminum enclosure 
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 range a high gain antenna could be used and connected to the 
 standard BNC connector on the back of the unit.
 
If you are seriously looking for a high performance Stereo 
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 - Original Message -
 From: "Sunshine" 
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:26 AM
 Subject: best fm transmitter
 
 
> I am looking for an fm transmitter to use with the computer.
> what  are the best ones to consider,a nd what are the prices, and 
> where can i buy them?
> please let me know.
> Also what are your experiences with the units you have?
> thanks
> 
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