Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Thank you most sincerely Mary for putting me on to this, a Must Hear 
and - knowing already the BW type sound - a possible future investment.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/131433-bowers-and-wilkins-t7-review-the-bluetooth-speaker-worth-waiting-for 






Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Mary Otten
I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on
iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the
speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound  link
3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the
bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from
BW such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment
one way or the other. My only recent experience with BW has been with
the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived
in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were.

Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they
want for it.

Mary




Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Sunshine

how much do they want for this speaker system
On 11/29/2014 11:33 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on
iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the
speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound  link
3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the
bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from
BW such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment
one way or the other. My only recent experience with BW has been with
the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived
in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were.

Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they
want for it.

Mary











Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hmm interesting but I really have to wonder what can be gained by comparing the 
BW with the T7? You only have to read the review I linked to and you’ll see 
that we’re talking about 2 different systems, portable is a word that can be 
applied to both sure but the BW is bigger for one thing.

I have the Soundlink III as you do and I have 2 BW speaker systems, the A5 and 
the Z2 and I can only wish that the Soundlink III exhibited the quality sound 
of the BW Z2 even but then again, BW products cost a little more.

As far as connection problems go? Well Bluetooth can be a little problematic at 
times and it very much depends on your environment and what other sources of 
radio interference may be around, Bluetooth was never intended to have a wide 
range.

I’ve never had much trouble in connecting any of the BW AirPlay devices and 
there are around a Dozen Wi-Fi networks around my location now according to the 
last scan I did but then again I did make a commitment to invest in the best 
Wi-Fi routing device I could found.

The point I’m trying to make I guess is that there are so many variables and 
circumstances when it comes to connection issues.


 On 30 Nov 2014, at 4:33 am, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on
 iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the
 speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound  link
 3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the
 bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from
 BW such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment
 one way or the other. My only recent experience with BW has been with
 the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived
 in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were.
 
 Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they
 want for it.
 
 Mary
 
 

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Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
In the review it said £300 but that’s English currency so you’ll have to do a 
google search and see how much you can get it for in the States, the T7 doesn’t 
seem to be available in Australia yet or I haven’t been able to find an 
Australian Stockest so I’ll keep looking.


 On 30 Nov 2014, at 4:36 am, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 
 how much do they want for this speaker system
 On 11/29/2014 11:33 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
 I read a couple of reviews, one on CNet and the other I think on
 iLounge, but might be wrong on that one. They weren't raving about the
 speaker, given its rather lofty price, more than the Bose sound  link
 3. Also, one review I saw said that they had problems maintaining the
 bluetooth connection, just as they have had with airplay offerings from
 BW such as the Zeppelin. I never owned that one, so I can't comment
 one way or the other. My only recent experience with BW has been with
 the MM1s, which I love and with in wall speakers in the home we lived
 in a few years ago; those were also fantastic for what they were.
 
 Would love to audition the t7 before laying out the kind of money they
 want for it.
 
 Mary
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

**

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Mary Otten
Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review
of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews,
unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I
can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what
the
do.
http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu
m-sound.html




Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Mary Otten
The t7 sells for $349 in the U.S. on Amazon. Of possible interest is
the fact that the special aptx technology that it uses to improve the
bluetooth sound is not available on Apple devices and is apparently not
likely to be, since Qualcom owns the company that invented it.

Mary




Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yes that’s true however it certainly wouldn’t sound worse than anything else we 
have, as the reviewer said it still sounds pretty good.

So Amazon are selling the units? That’s a pretty good price, bet your life 
they’re more expensive than that over here though I did get a pleasant surprise 
with the BW Z2, got one for $300 and that’s incredible value for money.

I think the other outstanding feature of this unit - apart from sound - would 
be the battery life of 18 hours, don’t know any Bluetooth portable except the 
Soundlinke III that would come anywhere near that, you get 14 hours from the 
Soundlink and that’s impressive enough, about 6 hours from the Logitech UE Boom 
but then again with the Boom I’m not at all surprised given the small battery 
that thing has, again what the engineers at Logitech were taking at the time of 
the UE Boom’s design one can only guess.


 On 30 Nov 2014, at 5:06 am, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 The t7 sells for $349 in the U.S. on Amazon. Of possible interest is
 the fact that the special aptx technology that it uses to improve the
 bluetooth sound is not available on Apple devices and is apparently not
 likely to be, since Qualcom owns the company that invented it.
 
 Mary
 
 

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grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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RE: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Walter Ramage
Hi.  I read that revue and it could hardly be considered unbiased.  The guy
states from the outset he doesn't like B  W stuff so he is hardly likely to
give a subjective revue.
 It's kinda like somebody saying they hate baked beans and then him being
asked to taste and give an honest revue and an impartial comment on which
brand of baked beans is best.  At the end of the day if you are going to
spend a lot of money then you should always audition the equipment first and
do so on more than one occasion.  The best option is to ask for a home
audition because even in the audition room of the dealer, the acoustics will
not be the same as your living room or bedroom.  If the dealer is worth his
salt he should have a demo model or should be able to get one from the
manufacturer to let you listen to.  I'm currently auditioning the B  W PV1
subwoofer.  I've had it for nearly 2 weeks now and have given it a good run
for it's money and like what i've heard and will buy one.  If I had listened
to it in the store it most likely would have been through different
equipment and as I've said, different acoustics.  For the most part, store
auditioning is great for narrowing your options until you find something
that might be to your taste then you could ask for a home audition.  In the
end, it doesn't matter how many revues you read, your ears are the best
judge of what sounds good or bad to you.  Walter.

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Otten
Sent: 29 November 2014 17:54
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bowers  Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting
for - Pocket-lint

Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review
of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews,
unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I
can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what
the
do.
http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu
m-sound.html



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Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
I guess its a matter od doing you homework when it comes to reviews and you’re 
right about reviews, you read a few and you soon get the idea of who knows and 
who doesn’t know what they’re talking about or what they’re doing.

When it comes to Short Wave radio sets for example, there’s some really good 
review stuff out there and not just from those who are paid to review either.

Then again - having said all that - some of the offerings on the subject of 
Short Wave radio sets come from those who ought to give the hobby up as a bad 
job.

There’s a classic review that runs along this vein on the Sangean ATS909x and 
I’ll try to find the link, I shouldn’t laugh I suppose but the review is 
certainly side splitting stuff.

The chap who does the review tells us he’s been listening to Short Wave for 
over 50 years and he knows what he’s talking about, he then proceeds to turn on 
the Asangean ATS909X and examine the Short Wave bands.

As people who listen to these bands regularly today will know, they’re not as 
populated as they once were so the chap - after not receiving anything much on 
the Sangean - tells us that reception on this radio is dreadful and again he 
knows, he’s been listening to Short Wave for 50 years!

Well now make what you will of all that but my only comment is that Short wave 
today is certainly not the same as it was 50 years ago or even 20 years ago and 
you’re certainly not going to receive anything much at 2 O’Clock or thereabouts 
in an afternoon, that’s when this chap did his review and - as I said - I’ll 
try and find the link to that again and post it.


 On 30 Nov 2014, at 4:53 am, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review
 of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews,
 unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I
 can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what
 the
 do.
 http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu
 m-sound.html
 
 

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Re: Bowers Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting for - Pocket-lint

2014-11-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Absolutely right, if someone states that they don’t like something then there’s 
hardly any point reading a review they post or even talking to them about a 
product and yet its so easy to not like something.

I experienced this myself with logitech Headsets, I had one in 2007 and the 
headset can only be described as utterly dreadful so I was very much against 
Logitech headsets until people started talking about the H800 Wireless offering.

It took some convincing but I did buy one and - apart from the awful build 
quality - I was impressed with it and still use it.

Yes, the H800 does have shortcomings as I said built quality isn’t good and it 
would have been nice if Logitech had used a better Bluetooth system but its 
still pretty good value for the buck.


 On 30 Nov 2014, at 5:26 am, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi.  I read that revue and it could hardly be considered unbiased.  The guy
 states from the outset he doesn't like B  W stuff so he is hardly likely to
 give a subjective revue.
 It's kinda like somebody saying they hate baked beans and then him being
 asked to taste and give an honest revue and an impartial comment on which
 brand of baked beans is best.  At the end of the day if you are going to
 spend a lot of money then you should always audition the equipment first and
 do so on more than one occasion.  The best option is to ask for a home
 audition because even in the audition room of the dealer, the acoustics will
 not be the same as your living room or bedroom.  If the dealer is worth his
 salt he should have a demo model or should be able to get one from the
 manufacturer to let you listen to.  I'm currently auditioning the B  W PV1
 subwoofer.  I've had it for nearly 2 weeks now and have given it a good run
 for it's money and like what i've heard and will buy one.  If I had listened
 to it in the store it most likely would have been through different
 equipment and as I've said, different acoustics.  For the most part, store
 auditioning is great for narrowing your options until you find something
 that might be to your taste then you could ask for a home audition.  In the
 end, it doesn't matter how many revues you read, your ears are the best
 judge of what sounds good or bad to you.  Walter.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
 Otten
 Sent: 29 November 2014 17:54
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Bowers  Wilkins T7 review: The Bluetooth speaker worth waiting
 for - Pocket-lint
 
 Well, just to be a devil's advocate, here is a very unfavorable review
 of the t7. This is basically why I don't put much faith in reviews,
 unless I know the reviewer and know his/jher taste is like my own, so I
 can be reasonably confident I will like what they do and dislike what
 the
 do.
 http://oluvsgadgets.blogspot.com/2014/11/review-bowers-wilkins-t7-premiu
 m-sound.html
 
 
 
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