RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-06 Thread Adrien Collins
Hi Dane

I don't know if you know, last year sometime humanware did a
survey of what the users of the vr stream wanted, I think
there was more demand for wifi than bluetooth, I think
bluetooth would mean another hardware up-grade, I am not
sure. I think bluetooth would have been great but as we can
use an adapter for listening to bluetooth earphones, it is
not much of a problem, not for me in any case. 

Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access toPrinted Text

Now you've got something there, the VR Stream! should have
been out 10 years ago, fancy a device in this day and age
not having Bluetooth? I wonder what the people who designed
the second generation VR Stream were thinking, is it
something that can be turned on with a future firmware
update? Is it part of the hardware set?

On 3 Jun 2014, at 5:27 pm, Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
wrote:

 hi,
 Not correct. Victor Stream 2 doesn't have bluetooth
connectivity, which is amazing if you use it together on the
go with a dual pairable bluetooth headset on the go.
 Book Sense xt has that feature, and I asume the new also
will have that.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Gary King
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:12 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access toPrinted Text
 
 Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic
feature set except
 for OCR.  So, the OCR better be really good since you will
be paying the
 difference in price for that feature.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to
Printed Text
 
 
 You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device
as feature packed
 as it is out the door for the price.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce
kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to
expect the USB
 file transfer technology of this decade not the previous
one.  with
 windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting
Windows 8.  I
 want a device that is future focused and ready for the
computers of
 today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment
of
 yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as
an official
 specification.  It is fully backward compatible and
supports
 connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning
port.
 
 The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a
specification
 sheet.  Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely
demand it as an
 FM radio was in its previous generation portable book
reader.
 Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing
devices.  Just
 because I bought a device from one company in the past
doesn't mean I
 should buy the replacement device from them.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
wrote:
 Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows
that a FM radio in
 a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar
- is bound to be
 inferior to a dedicated FM radio.
 
 The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would
bother putting one
 of these into their products is because they can, a bit
like Tecsun giving
 you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they
particularly serve any
 practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun
can do it.
 
 Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would
think is more
 appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than
the one in the
 BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in
the BookSense is not
 very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to
keep it in stereo
 mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone
picks up weak stations
 better using the same earphones as the antenna.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player thatGives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to
Printed Text
 
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device
that they hope will
 appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without
a FM and Internet
 radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone
say Yesterday that
 they were going to buy this device because of its FM
radio

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-03 Thread Brian Olesen

hi,
Not correct. Victor Stream 2 doesn't have bluetooth connectivity, which is 
amazing if you use it together on the go with a dual pairable bluetooth 
headset on the go.

Book Sense xt has that feature, and I asume the new also will have that.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Gary King

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text


Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except
for OCR.  So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the
difference in price for that feature.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text


You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed
as it is out the door for the price.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:


the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB
file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with
windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  I
want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of
today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of
yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official
specification.  It is fully backward compatible and supports
connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.

The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification
sheet.  Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an
FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader.
Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just
because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I
should buy the replacement device from them.

Kelly



On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio 
in

a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be
inferior to a dedicated FM radio.

The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting 
one
of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun 
giving

you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any
practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it.

Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more
appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:


If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the
BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense is 
not

very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo
mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak 
stations

better using the same earphones as the antenna.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives
Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text


I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope 
will
appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and 
Internet
radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday 
that

they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the
use!

On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi

For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
these features? It looks very good though.

Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant
Access to Printed Text

I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM
radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other
product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E
manual smile.


On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com
wrote:


not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would

rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.

On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

sorry about repeating

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Now you've got something there, the VR Stream! should have been out 10 years 
ago, fancy a device in this day and age not having Bluetooth? I wonder what the 
people who designed the second generation VR Stream were thinking, is it 
something that can be turned on with a future firmware update? Is it part of 
the hardware set?

On 3 Jun 2014, at 5:27 pm, Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk wrote:

 hi,
 Not correct. Victor Stream 2 doesn't have bluetooth connectivity, which is 
 amazing if you use it together on the go with a dual pairable bluetooth 
 headset on the go.
 Book Sense xt has that feature, and I asume the new also will have that.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Gary King
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:12 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text
 
 Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except
 for OCR.  So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the
 difference in price for that feature.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 
 You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed
 as it is out the door for the price.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB
 file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with
 windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  I
 want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of
 today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of
 yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official
 specification.  It is fully backward compatible and supports
 connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.
 
 The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification
 sheet.  Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an
 FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader.
 Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just
 because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I
 should buy the replacement device from them.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in
 a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be
 inferior to a dedicated FM radio.
 
 The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one
 of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving
 you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any
 practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it.
 
 Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more
 appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the
 BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the BookSense is not
 very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo
 mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations
 better using the same earphones as the antenna.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will
 appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet
 radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that
 they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the
 use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins adriencollins22...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of
 this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already
 have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only
 really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading
 functions, apart from an I device what else would cover
 these features? It looks very good though.
 
 Regards
 
 Adrien
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
 Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 Player that Gives

RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-03 Thread Hamit Campos
It may need the radio or how ever that works if it doesn't have it.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

Now you've got something there, the VR Stream! should have been out 10 years
ago, fancy a device in this day and age not having Bluetooth? I wonder what
the people who designed the second generation VR Stream were thinking, is it
something that can be turned on with a future firmware update? Is it part of
the hardware set?

On 3 Jun 2014, at 5:27 pm, Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk wrote:

 hi,
 Not correct. Victor Stream 2 doesn't have bluetooth connectivity, which is
amazing if you use it together on the go with a dual pairable bluetooth
headset on the go.
 Book Sense xt has that feature, and I asume the new also will have that.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Gary King
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:12 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access 
 toPrinted Text
 
 Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set 
 except for OCR.  So, the OCR better be really good since you will be 
 paying the difference in price for that feature.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player 
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
 Text
 
 
 You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature 
 packed as it is out the door for the price.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB 
 file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with 
 windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  
 I want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of 
 today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of 
 yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official 
 specification.  It is fully backward compatible and supports 
 connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.
 
 The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification 
 sheet.  Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as 
 an FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader.
 Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just 
 because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I 
 should buy the replacement device from them.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM 
 radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - 
 is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio.
 
 The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother 
 putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit 
 like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they 
 particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because
Tecsun can do it.
 
 Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more 
 appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.
 
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in 
 the BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the 
 BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong 
 to keep it in stereo mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell 
 phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the
antenna.
 
 Gary King
 w4...@bellsouth.net
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player 
 thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
 Text
 
 
 I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they 
 hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a 
 FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard 
 someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device 
 because of its FM radio, what's the use!
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins 
 adriencollins22...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this 
 gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the 
 internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really 
 interested

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.

this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
the Book Port Plus.

Kelly



On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text

 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.

 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.

 P.


 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?

 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.

 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
 81.htm


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RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah you're right. Since you bring up Plextalk, I wish they'd overhall the 
PTR2. Ah the good old PTR2. An oldy but goody. But seriously dudes, it's time 
to update it. Get rid of all CF limits, make it suport the new CF cards or go 
for SD XC then. Then let's upgrade the DVD writer for a Blu-Ray writer shall 
we? Let's make it actually write DVDs and BDs whilst we are at it. Think of all 
one can put on a DVD or better yet a BD.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand 
Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in a 
TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current portable book 
readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation Victor Stream.  The 
current version of USB is 3.0, which has significantly faster file transfer 
rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a 
response.  If Hims opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others 
introduce a portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.

this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last generation of 
portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book Port Plus were the only 
units with a quality recorder.  I have since used the recorder for various 
purposes, including making broadcast quality recordings of lectures that later 
were aired on radio stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I 
waited for the Book Port Plus.

Kelly



On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access 
 toPrinted Text

 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of 
 interest to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind 
 outside the KNFB reader.

 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm 
 sure a lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be 
 interested to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.

 P.


 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
 Text

 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter 
 of a little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately 
 come very soon.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the 
 victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
 Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i 
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just 
 wonder if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a 
 lot of other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if 
 they are improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than 
 when it came out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have 
 come down a little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?

 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.

 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb
 118977
 81.htm


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Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Interesting point.

I don't know many mobile devices that support USB 3.0 and that includes the 
iPhone and my Samsung Galaxy S4, I don't think the latter even supports USB 
3.0, the only small device around I have which does support it - via a firmware 
update - is the Zoom H1 Recorder, don't even think the Olympus DM4 supports USB 
3.0.

On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:53 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
 a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
 portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
 Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
 significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
 e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
 opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
 portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.
 
 this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
 generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
 Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
 used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
 quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
 stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
 the Book Port Plus.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text
 
 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.
 
 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.
 
 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
 81.htm
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Kelly Pierce
Apple re imagines its iPhone hardware every two years.  this year is
on schedule for a new iPhone hardware design.  I am quite interested
to learn if the iPhone 6 will include USB 3 this fall.
Kelly




On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Interesting point.

 I don't know many mobile devices that support USB 3.0 and that includes the
 iPhone and my Samsung Galaxy S4, I don't think the latter even supports USB
 3.0, the only small device around I have which does support it - via a
 firmware update - is the Zoom H1 Recorder, don't even think the Olympus DM4
 supports USB 3.0.

 On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:53 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
 a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
 portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
 Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
 significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
 e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
 opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
 portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.

 this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
 generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
 Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
 used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
 quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
 stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
 the Book Port Plus.

 Kelly



 On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text

 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of
 interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.

 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure
 a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be
 interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.

 P.


 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter
 of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.

 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.



 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text

 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?

 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.

 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:

 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
 81.htm


 **

 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane







 **

 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile

Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-06-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Its going to have to include something, the iPhone is falling behind the rest 
of the pack as far as Tech Specs are concerned, of course that statement 
probably isn't a concern to most iPhone users smile, they think of an iPhone 
as a Christian thinks of the Lord Above smile.


On 2 Jun 2014, at 5:33 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apple re imagines its iPhone hardware every two years.  this year is
 on schedule for a new iPhone hardware design.  I am quite interested
 to learn if the iPhone 6 will include USB 3 this fall.
 Kelly
 
 
 
 
 On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 Interesting point.
 
 I don't know many mobile devices that support USB 3.0 and that includes the
 iPhone and my Samsung Galaxy S4, I don't think the latter even supports USB
 3.0, the only small device around I have which does support it - via a
 firmware update - is the Zoom H1 Recorder, don't even think the Olympus DM4
 supports USB 3.0.
 
 On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:53 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in
 a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used.  All current
 portable book readers use USB 2.0.  this includes the next generation
 Victor Stream.  The current version of USB is 3.0, which has
 significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0.  I sent an
 e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response.  If Hims
 opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a
 portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0.
 
 this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last
 generation of portable book players.  the Plextalk Pocket and Book
 Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder.  I have since
 used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast
 quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio
 stations.  with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for
 the Book Port Plus.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy d...@drakelroy.com wrote:
 you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
 PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted
 Text
 
 To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of
 interest
 to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the
 KNFB
 reader.
 
 If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.
 
 I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure
 a
 lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.
 
 On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:
 
 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
 mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be
 interested
 to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
 thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter
 of
 a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the
 victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
 reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc

RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

2014-05-31 Thread Dave McElroy
you and me both.  Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please.   

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest
to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the KNFB
reader.

If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied.

I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a
lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then.

On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon sca...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I
mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested
to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio.
 
 P.
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player
thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 hi,
 Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of a
 little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very
 soon.
 
 Brian
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that
 GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the victor.
 
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Dennis
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives
 Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
 
 oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i
 figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder
 if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of
 other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are
 improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came
 out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a
 little more than that.
 On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Did you think it would be more expensive?
 
 That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it
reaches the Land Downunder.
 
 On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis dennis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be.
 On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS-Inc/prweb118977
81.htm
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane