It may need the radio or how ever that works if it doesn't have it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media
PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text

Now you've got something there, the VR Stream! should have been out 10 years
ago, fancy a device in this day and age not having Bluetooth? I wonder what
the people who designed the second generation VR Stream were thinking, is it
something that can be turned on with a future firmware update? Is it part of
the hardware set?

On 3 Jun 2014, at 5:27 pm, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

> hi,
> Not correct. Victor Stream 2 doesn't have bluetooth connectivity, which is
amazing if you use it together on the go with a dual pairable bluetooth
headset on the go.
> Book Sense xt has that feature, and I asume the new also will have that.
> 
> Brian
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Gary King
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:12 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media 
> PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access 
> toPrinted Text
> 
> Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set 
> except for OCR.  So, the OCR better be really good since you will be 
> paying the difference in price for that feature.
> 
> Gary King
> w4...@bellsouth.net
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player 
> thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
> Text
> 
> 
> You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature 
> packed as it is out the door for the price.
> 
> 
> On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB 
>> file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one.  with 
>> windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8.  
>> I want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of 
>> today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of 
>> yesteryear.  Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official 
>> specification.  It is fully backward compatible and supports 
>> connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port.
>> 
>> The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification 
>> sheet.  Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as 
>> an FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader.
>> Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices.  Just 
>> because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I 
>> should buy the replacement device from them.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>> Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM 
>>> radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - 
>>> is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio.
>>> 
>>> The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother 
>>> putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit 
>>> like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they 
>>> particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because
Tecsun can do it.
>>> 
>>> Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more 
>>> appealing about this equipment than a FM radio.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King <w4...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in 
>>>> the BookSense XT, then it won't be much.  The FM radio in the 
>>>> BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong 
>>>> to keep it in stereo mode.  The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell 
>>>> phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the
antenna.
>>>> 
>>>> Gary King
>>>> w4...@bellsouth.net
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player 
>>>> thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
>>>> Text
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they 
>>>> hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a 
>>>> FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard 
>>>> someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device 
>>>> because of its FM radio, what's the use!
>>>> 
>>>> On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins 
>>>> <adriencollins22...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this 
>>>>> gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the 
>>>>> internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really 
>>>>> interested in the ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart 
>>>>> from an I device what else would cover these features? It looks 
>>>>> very good though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adrien
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that 
>>>>> Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed 
>>>>> Text
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios 
>>>>> on the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your 
>>>>> moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual <smile>.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis <dennis...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would
>>>>> rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2.
>>>>>> On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>> sorry about repeating everything you wrote <smile>.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis <dennis...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> for everyones information on price. i just looked at the
>>>>> website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that its 
>>>>> $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping.
>>>>> it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and ordered one 
>>>>> just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and see the reviews on 
>>>>> it sence i already have a booksence that i payed $500 for and i 
>>>>> just don't know if i'd get my monys worth from buying the 
>>>>> blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth.
>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on
>>>>> documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, Kurzweil 
>>>>> 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo and the 
>>>>> standscan pro. Results need to be much much better than the other 
>>>>> solutions before I would buy it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio
>>>>> <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention
>>>>> to the past thread, thus missed it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>> Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what
>>>>> others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get one 
>>>>> for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but - judging by the 
>>>>> Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're going to see some most 
>>>>> interesting chatter regarding this machine in the weeks and months 
>>>>> ahead.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am,
>>>>> Dennis<dennis...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> well it clames it has internet radio listening
>>>>> cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm radio. it 
>>>>> seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll drop the over 
>>>>> $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they charge shipping. 
>>>>> the other thing that bothers me is unlike other technology these 
>>>>> things don't go down in price. so if you don't buy it right away 
>>>>> and want to wait, it doesn't matter because the price won't go 
>>>>> down. i guess they are counting on a lot of agency perchases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like
>>>>> Ootunes like the victor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized
>>>>> Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant 
>>>>> Access to Printed Text
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when
>>>>> it came out i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to
>>>>> $1000. i just wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the media player is better than the booksence
>>>>> was. it has a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other features that the booksence does and i just
>>>>> wonder if they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50
>>>>> less than when it came
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out a few years ago. i would have thought it would
>>>>> have come down a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more than that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you think it would be more expensive?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will
>>>>> be by the time it reaches the Land Downunder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm,
>>>>> Dennis<dennis...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought
>>>>> it would be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/blindness-low-vision-tech/HIMS
>>>>> -Inc/prweb11897781.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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