MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Jeff Samco
Hi, Listers,
I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject has 
been recently covered.

I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively 
accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as the 
MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM tuner 
with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would be 
nice.
I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or ones to 
stay away from.

I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at 
under $100:
Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.

Thanks for sharing your experience  expertise.
Jeff Samco 

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Re: MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Sarai D. Bucciarelli
The Archos players/recorders, you can download Rockbox and they'll speak the 
menus and other info. The Iriver H140 will be accessible and rockbox will be 
able to play on it soon. Go to www.rockbox.org for more info.
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From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: MP3 flash player recommendations


Hi, Listers,

I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject has
been recently covered.

I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively
accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as the
MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM tuner
with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would be
nice.
I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or ones to
stay away from.

I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at
under $100:
Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.

Thanks for sharing your experience  expertise.
Jeff Samco


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Re: MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Jeff Samco
Thanks, yes, I am aware of RockBox but isn't that solely for hard drive 
based players?  I'm specifically intersted in lower-priced flash 
players.  Any further recommendations from anyone?
Jeff

At 03:33 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
The Archos players/recorders, you can download Rockbox and they'll speak the
menus and other info. The Iriver H140 will be accessible and rockbox will be
able to play on it soon. Go to www.rockbox.org for more info.
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From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: MP3 flash player recommendations
Hi, Listers,
I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject has
been recently covered.
I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively
accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as the
MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM tuner
with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would be
nice.
I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or ones to
stay away from.
I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at
under $100:
Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.
Thanks for sharing your experience  expertise.
Jeff Samco
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Re: MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Sarai D. Bucciarelli
You can flash Rockbox. I'm not sure what your asking. Can you clarify?
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Thanks, yes, I am aware of RockBox but isn't that solely for hard drive
based players?  I'm specifically intersted in lower-priced flash
players.  Any further recommendations from anyone?
Jeff

At 03:33 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
The Archos players/recorders, you can download Rockbox and they'll speak 
the
menus and other info. The Iriver H140 will be accessible and rockbox will 
be
able to play on it soon. Go to www.rockbox.org for more info.
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: MP3 flash player recommendations


Hi, Listers,

I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject has
been recently covered.

I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively
accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as the
MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM tuner
with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would be
nice.
I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or ones to
stay away from.

I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at
under $100:
Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.

Thanks for sharing your experience  expertise.
Jeff Samco


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Re: MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Jeff Samco
Let me try to clarify.  If I understand MP3 players, there are two basic 
types of storage: one uses flash memory with no moving parts; the other 
uses a hard drive which spins just like a computer hard drive and holds 
greater amounts of storage.  I thought the Archos players were of the 
second type.  They may well have flash memory for holding the operating 
system but audio file storage is on the spinning drive.  I am interested in 
the first type with storage in flash memory.  Does this type of player 
still utilize the Rock Box software?
And, I would still like any and all recommendations on what flash based 
players are more accessible. Thanks.
Jeff

At 04:46 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
You can flash Rockbox. I'm not sure what your asking. Can you clarify?
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From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: MP3 flash player recommendations
Thanks, yes, I am aware of RockBox but isn't that solely for hard drive
based players?  I'm specifically intersted in lower-priced flash
players.  Any further recommendations from anyone?
Jeff
At 03:33 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
The Archos players/recorders, you can download Rockbox and they'll speak
the
menus and other info. The Iriver H140 will be accessible and rockbox will
be
able to play on it soon. Go to www.rockbox.org for more info.
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: MP3 flash player recommendations


Hi, Listers,

I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject has
been recently covered.

I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively
accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as the
MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM tuner
with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would be
nice.
I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or ones to
stay away from.

I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at
under $100:
Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.

Thanks for sharing your experience  expertise.
Jeff Samco


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Re: MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I don't know if they still make it or not, but I have a compact flash MuVo 
from Creative Labs.  I got it a year or two ago.  It has 256M of flash 
space.  It has no display, so it's obviously quite accessible.  It also 
doesn't come with or need any PC software to transfer the files to the 
MuVo.  You just use Windows Explorer to copy files to the drive.

I haven't been keeping up with things lately, but it sounds a lot like the 
iPod to me, except you don't need to use any special software on the PC. I 
must be missing something, but everything I've heard of the iPod doesn't 
set it apart from the MuVo that I've got.  Maybe the MuVo I've got isn't 
made any more or maybe the iPod is just a lot cheaper for more memory.

Christopher

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Let me try to clarify.  If I understand MP3 players, there are two basic 
types of storage: one uses flash memory with no moving parts; the other 
uses a hard drive which spins just like a computer hard drive and holds 
greater amounts of storage.  I thought the Archos players were of the 
second type.  They may well have flash memory for holding the operating 
system but audio file storage is on the spinning drive.  I am interested 
in 
the first type with storage in flash memory.  Does this type of player 
still utilize the Rock Box software?
And, I would still like any and all recommendations on what flash based 
players are more accessible. Thanks.
Jeff

At 04:46 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
You can flash Rockbox. I'm not sure what your asking. Can you clarify?
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: MP3 flash player recommendations


Thanks, yes, I am aware of RockBox but isn't that solely for hard drive
based players?  I'm specifically intersted in lower-priced flash
players.  Any further recommendations from anyone?
Jeff

At 03:33 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
 The Archos players/recorders, you can download Rockbox and they'll 
speak
 the
 menus and other info. The Iriver H140 will be accessible and rockbox 
will
 be
 able to play on it soon. Go to www.rockbox.org for more info.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:14 PM
 Subject: MP3 flash player recommendations
 
 
 Hi, Listers,
 
 I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject 
has
 been recently covered.
 
 I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively
 accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as 
the
 MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM 
tuner
 with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would 
be
 nice.
 I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or 
ones to
 stay away from.
 
 I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at
 under $100:
 Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
 The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
 IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
 J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.
 
 Thanks for sharing your experience  expertise.
 Jeff Samco
 
 
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Re: MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Sarai D. Bucciarelli
Go to www.rockbox.org for all of the technicle info, they're working on it 
for IRIVER as well.
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From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: MP3 flash player recommendations


Let me try to clarify.  If I understand MP3 players, there are two basic
types of storage: one uses flash memory with no moving parts; the other
uses a hard drive which spins just like a computer hard drive and holds
greater amounts of storage.  I thought the Archos players were of the
second type.  They may well have flash memory for holding the operating
system but audio file storage is on the spinning drive.  I am interested in
the first type with storage in flash memory.  Does this type of player
still utilize the Rock Box software?
And, I would still like any and all recommendations on what flash based
players are more accessible. Thanks.
Jeff

At 04:46 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
You can flash Rockbox. I'm not sure what your asking. Can you clarify?
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: MP3 flash player recommendations


Thanks, yes, I am aware of RockBox but isn't that solely for hard drive
based players?  I'm specifically intersted in lower-priced flash
players.  Any further recommendations from anyone?
Jeff

At 03:33 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
 The Archos players/recorders, you can download Rockbox and they'll speak
 the
 menus and other info. The Iriver H140 will be accessible and rockbox will
 be
 able to play on it soon. Go to www.rockbox.org for more info.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:14 PM
 Subject: MP3 flash player recommendations
 
 
 Hi, Listers,
 
 I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject has
 been recently covered.
 
 I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively
 accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as 
 the
 MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM tuner
 with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would 
 be
 nice.
 I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or ones 
 to
 stay away from.
 
 I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at
 under $100:
 Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
 The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
 IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
 J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.
 
 Thanks for sharing your experience  expertise.
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Re: MP3 flash player recommendations

2005-04-19 Thread Sarai D. Bucciarelli
Yeah the Muvo is made, they just did a review of it on acess world. Ditch 
the IPOD, its not as accessible or as nice as people make it out to be.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:57 PM
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I don't know if they still make it or not, but I have a compact flash MuVo
from Creative Labs.  I got it a year or two ago.  It has 256M of flash
space.  It has no display, so it's obviously quite accessible.  It also
doesn't come with or need any PC software to transfer the files to the
MuVo.  You just use Windows Explorer to copy files to the drive.

I haven't been keeping up with things lately, but it sounds a lot like the
iPod to me, except you don't need to use any special software on the PC. I
must be missing something, but everything I've heard of the iPod doesn't
set it apart from the MuVo that I've got.  Maybe the MuVo I've got isn't
made any more or maybe the iPod is just a lot cheaper for more memory.

Christopher

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Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Let me try to clarify.  If I understand MP3 players, there are two basic
types of storage: one uses flash memory with no moving parts; the other
uses a hard drive which spins just like a computer hard drive and holds
greater amounts of storage.  I thought the Archos players were of the
second type.  They may well have flash memory for holding the operating
system but audio file storage is on the spinning drive.  I am interested
in
the first type with storage in flash memory.  Does this type of player
still utilize the Rock Box software?
And, I would still like any and all recommendations on what flash based
players are more accessible. Thanks.
Jeff

At 04:46 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
You can flash Rockbox. I'm not sure what your asking. Can you clarify?
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: MP3 flash player recommendations


Thanks, yes, I am aware of RockBox but isn't that solely for hard drive
based players?  I'm specifically intersted in lower-priced flash
players.  Any further recommendations from anyone?
Jeff

At 03:33 PM 4/19/05, you wrote:
 The Archos players/recorders, you can download Rockbox and they'll
speak
 the
 menus and other info. The Iriver H140 will be accessible and rockbox
will
 be
 able to play on it soon. Go to www.rockbox.org for more info.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeff Samco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:14 PM
 Subject: MP3 flash player recommendations
 
 
 Hi, Listers,
 
 I haven't been on the list for a while so don't know if this subject
has
 been recently covered.
 
 I am looking for a portable flash MP3 player that is relatively
 accessible.  I would like it to have a simple way to copy files such as
the
 MuVo or at least accessible software.  Also having an accessible FM
tuner
 with capability to record from radio and voice recording features would
be
 nice.
 I would like to hear any and all recommendations for good models or
ones to
 stay away from.
 
 I have come across these models which seem particularly feature-rich at
 under $100:
 Creative TravelSound TS350W with built in speakers.
 The SanDisk SDMX1512A18 with 512 MB FLASH and FM tuner and recorder.
 IRIVER IFP-790T with 256 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder
 J WIN JXMP129FM with 128 MB flash and FM tuner and voice recorder.
 
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