Re: Sonos Connect AMP.

[Dane Trethowan]

Thank you for that.

Perhaps - now we have Bluetooth AptX - later models of Sonos may 
incorporate Bluetooth streaming but then again, AptX isn't compatible 
with IOS so perhaps Sonos will prefer to not to mention Bluetooth and 
hope people don't mention it iether .


Bluetooth AptX is yet another field where the battle is being fought in 
the streaming world.




On 3/10/2016 5:25 AM, John Gurd wrote:

Hi Dane
Regarding your comments on the Sonos Speakers and their limitations. I wouldn't 
argue. Just a point of clarification: they don't do Bluetooth - none of the 
range do. I like my Sonos Play 1's which I use in the bedroom, but they would 
be so much better with Bluetooth. They do play the music directly from an IOS 
device using Wi-Fi (but not Airplay) so long as it is from the native Music 
App. So you can't play music from any other audio app. I use them mostly with 
Apple Music service, Amazon Prime and Tune-In Radio which is a built in service.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 29 September 2016 12:13
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sonos Connect AMP.

Well firstly and someone may correct me on this, the songs connect needs an amp 
to run with and I can t see any logical reason as to why you couldn t use your 
Songs connect with your existing 5.1 system, you d probably want to use a 
digital connection as a link between the Connect and your system, I m sure your 
system would have at least 1 digital input - either coax or optical, the Songs 
Connect will handle it -.
Asfar as Sonos Speakers go? I ve never seen much value in them myself either 
though again, if that s what people want then that s fair enough.
Wy don t I see much value in Songs Play speaker systems? Because - to my way of 
thinking - they re too limited.
The two cheapest models - last time I looked - didn t even have an Aux-in 
connection so one had to get the top Songs Play3 I think the model is for 
around $900 if I remember rightly.
Even then - if you wanted stereo sound from that speaker - you needed two to 
make a stereo set, that s a lot of money for a set of stereo speakers when 
there are far better options out there for this sort of money.
Then there s the fact that Sonos systems don t support HD audio, not a feature 
that most would worry about I suspect but for that amount of money? Yeah, i d 
be furious given I have a collection of HD files.
And finally, Sonos doesn t support AirPlay - not sure if it supports bluetooth 
-, the only way you ll get AirPlay working is to buy a Songs Play3 and connect 
an Airport Express or something similar to the Aux-in jack and no, the Aux-in 
is only analogue believe it or not.
As for the Songs Connect? I reckon that s a far better value for money 
proposition for most people in most cases given they already have existing 
systems of one form or another.
I opted for the Bowers And Wilkins A7 as people would know and the A7 is 
flexible in many ways, firstly it can be connected to the USB port of a 
computer - Mac or Windows - thus acts as a Computer desktop system.
Then the A7 supports AirPlay.
On top of that the A7 has both analogue and digital inputs, only one of each 
but that will do - so I ve taken advantage of the digital input to connect my 
Sangean DDR66 desktop music system which plays CD S - multi format -, can play 
audio files from a SD card or USB stick, has Internet radio along with Digital 
and FM Radio, Spotify connect, can stream from DLNA devices and - on top of all 
that - has a nice IOS/Android controller App, yes quite a powerful little 
system for my bedside table.
So that s one option and there are many other good options from where that one 
came from.


On 29 Sep. 2016, at 8:22 pm, Jim Noseworthy 
<jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:

Hi Gang:



I've been looking at Sonos equipment and, I am very impressed with the
connectivity to music services and the accessibility of the Sonos app.
I am, however, at a loss as to why the Sonos system would be
considered as a serious first line stereo system in the home.  Even
though the Play:5 is a remarkable speaker system, it is, after all, still a 
portable speaker.



I can certainly see the awesome value in a Sonos Connect being
utilized on an existing stereo system: which brings me to my point. I
have an old HarmonCarton 5.1 amplifier and I would like to replace it.
Therefore, what is the good, the bad, and the ugly, concerning the Sonos 
Connect Amplifier.



BTW: are most of you Sonos owners using the sub-woofer?



Thanks all over the place gang.


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RE: Sonos Connect AMP.

[John Gurd]

Hi Dane
Regarding your comments on the Sonos Speakers and their limitations. I wouldn't 
argue. Just a point of clarification: they don't do Bluetooth - none of the 
range do. I like my Sonos Play 1's which I use in the bedroom, but they would 
be so much better with Bluetooth. They do play the music directly from an IOS 
device using Wi-Fi (but not Airplay) so long as it is from the native Music 
App. So you can't play music from any other audio app. I use them mostly with 
Apple Music service, Amazon Prime and Tune-In Radio which is a built in service.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 29 September 2016 12:13
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sonos Connect AMP.

Well firstly and someone may correct me on this, the songs connect needs an amp 
to run with and I can t see any logical reason as to why you couldn t use your 
Songs connect with your existing 5.1 system, you d probably want to use a 
digital connection as a link between the Connect and your system, I m sure your 
system would have at least 1 digital input - either coax or optical, the Songs 
Connect will handle it -.
Asfar as Sonos Speakers go? I ve never seen much value in them myself either 
though again, if that s what people want then that s fair enough.
Wy don t I see much value in Songs Play speaker systems? Because - to my way of 
thinking - they re too limited.
The two cheapest models - last time I looked - didn t even have an Aux-in 
connection so one had to get the top Songs Play3 I think the model is for 
around $900 if I remember rightly.
Even then - if you wanted stereo sound from that speaker - you needed two to 
make a stereo set, that s a lot of money for a set of stereo speakers when 
there are far better options out there for this sort of money.
Then there s the fact that Sonos systems don t support HD audio, not a feature 
that most would worry about I suspect but for that amount of money? Yeah, i d 
be furious given I have a collection of HD files.
And finally, Sonos doesn t support AirPlay - not sure if it supports bluetooth 
-, the only way you ll get AirPlay working is to buy a Songs Play3 and connect 
an Airport Express or something similar to the Aux-in jack and no, the Aux-in 
is only analogue believe it or not.
As for the Songs Connect? I reckon that s a far better value for money 
proposition for most people in most cases given they already have existing 
systems of one form or another.
I opted for the Bowers And Wilkins A7 as people would know and the A7 is 
flexible in many ways, firstly it can be connected to the USB port of a 
computer - Mac or Windows - thus acts as a Computer desktop system.
Then the A7 supports AirPlay.
On top of that the A7 has both analogue and digital inputs, only one of each 
but that will do - so I ve taken advantage of the digital input to connect my 
Sangean DDR66 desktop music system which plays CD S - multi format -, can play 
audio files from a SD card or USB stick, has Internet radio along with Digital 
and FM Radio, Spotify connect, can stream from DLNA devices and - on top of all 
that - has a nice IOS/Android controller App, yes quite a powerful little 
system for my bedside table.
So that s one option and there are many other good options from where that one 
came from.

> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 8:22 pm, Jim Noseworthy 
> <jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gang:
> 
> 
> 
> I've been looking at Sonos equipment and, I am very impressed with the 
> connectivity to music services and the accessibility of the Sonos app.  
> I am, however, at a loss as to why the Sonos system would be 
> considered as a serious first line stereo system in the home.  Even 
> though the Play:5 is a remarkable speaker system, it is, after all, still a 
> portable speaker.
> 
> 
> 
> I can certainly see the awesome value in a Sonos Connect being 
> utilized on an existing stereo system: which brings me to my point. I 
> have an old HarmonCarton 5.1 amplifier and I would like to replace it.  
> Therefore, what is the good, the bad, and the ugly, concerning the Sonos 
> Connect Amplifier.
> 
> 
> 
> BTW: are most of you Sonos owners using the sub-woofer?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks all over the place gang.
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Sonos Connect AMP.

[Dane Trethowan]

Well firstly and someone may correct me on this, the songs connect needs an amp 
to run with and I can’t see any logical reason as to why you couldn’t use your 
Songs connect with your existing 5.1 system, you’d probably want to use a 
digital connection as a link between the Connect and your system, I’m sure your 
system would have at least 1 digital input - either coax or optical, the Songs 
Connect will handle it -.
Asfar as Sonos Speakers go? I’ve never seen much value in them myself either 
though again, if that’s what people want then that’s fair enough.
Wy don’t I see much value in Songs Play speaker systems? Because - to my way of 
thinking - they’re too limited.
The two cheapest models - last time I looked - didn’t even have an Aux-in 
connection so one had to get the top Songs Play3 I think the model is for 
around $900 if I remember rightly.
Even then - if you wanted stereo sound from that speaker - you needed two to 
make a stereo set, that’s a lot of money for a set of stereo speakers when 
there are far better options out there for this sort of money.
Then there’s the fact that Sonos systems don’t support HD audio, not a feature 
that most would worry about I suspect but for that amount of money? Yeah, i’d 
be furious given I have a collection of HD files.
And finally, Sonos doesn’t support AirPlay - not sure if it supports bluetooth 
-, the only way you’ll get AirPlay working is to buy a Songs Play3 and connect 
an Airport Express or something similar to the Aux-in jack and no, the Aux-in 
is only analogue believe it or not.
As for the Songs Connect? I reckon that’s a far better value for money 
proposition for most people in most cases given they already have existing 
systems of one form or another.
I opted for the Bowers And Wilkins A7 as people would know and the A7 is 
flexible in many ways, firstly it can be connected to the USB port of a 
computer - Mac or Windows - thus acts as a Computer desktop system.
Then the A7 supports AirPlay.
On top of that the A7 has both analogue and digital inputs, only one of each 
but that will do - so I’ve taken advantage of the digital input to connect my 
Sangean DDR66 desktop music system which plays CD’S - multi format -, can play 
audio files from a SD card or USB stick, has Internet radio along with Digital 
and FM Radio, Spotify connect, can stream from DLNA devices and - on top of all 
that - has a nice IOS/Android controller App, yes quite a powerful little 
system for my bedside table.
So that’s one option and there are many other good options from where that one 
came from.

> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 8:22 pm, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gang:
> 
> 
> 
> I've been looking at Sonos equipment and, I am very impressed with the
> connectivity to music services and the accessibility of the Sonos app.  I
> am, however, at a loss as to why the Sonos system would be considered as a
> serious first line stereo system in the home.  Even though the Play:5 is a
> remarkable speaker system, it is, after all, still a portable speaker.
> 
> 
> 
> I can certainly see the awesome value in a Sonos Connect being utilized on
> an existing stereo system: which brings me to my point. I have an old
> HarmonCarton 5.1 amplifier and I would like to replace it.  Therefore, what
> is the good, the bad, and the ugly, concerning the Sonos Connect Amplifier.
> 
> 
> 
> BTW: are most of you Sonos owners using the sub-woofer?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks all over the place gang.
> 

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Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
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