Re: headphones adaptor

2004-11-13 Thread Geoff Eden
Yes, it's possible that each of the input devices might see each other as a
short, or at least having unacceptably high resistance.  Even if only one is
on at a time, the resistance of the out-put of the unused device may be too
high.  I've seen little amplifier chips cooked this way as they are often
configured as a current pump and will over-heat.  I've also seen the rules
broken and every thing work fine.  So you're on your own.

Geoff

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Subject: Re: headphones adaptor


I was told by one of our electronics stores that connecting two stereo
units to one stereo set of headphones with a simple Y-adaptor is not
feasible. I couldn't say why, and I do not know how true this information
is.

Bruce

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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, kevin and emma wrote:

> thanks to all for their suggestions! i'll be following up all usggestions.
> email or msn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> From: "Moving-Mountains Technology Limited" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:10 PM
> Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
>
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> It is worth contacting Hagger Electronics because if they don't have one
> of
>> these leadfs on the shelf, they will make one up for you to any length
and
> be
>> able to advise you on the matter of any impedance mismatch or not as the
> case
>> might be. Please see details below.
>>
>> Hagger Electronics,
>> Unit 22,
>> Business Centre West,
>> Avenue One,
>> Letchworth Garden City,
>> Hertfordshire SG6 2HB
>> Tel: 01462 677 331
>> Fax: 01462 675 016
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Web Site: http://www.hagger.co.uk
>>
>> Good luck and Kindest Regards,
>> Ibby Karbhari - Director
>> Moving-Mountains Technology Limited
>> 226B Westbourne Park Road, London W11 1EP.
>> All Sales: 020 7243 0510 - All Support: 020 7243 0500.
>> Opening Hours: Monday-Friday 9AM-5PM. Saturdays 9AM-12PM (UK Time)
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.moving-mountains.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
>> Behalf Of Caroline Ford
>> Sent: 08 November 2004 20:54
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
>>
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> The RNIB used to sell an adaptor which would allow you to connect one
pair
> of
>> headphones to two devices so that the output of one came out of the
> left-hand
>> side and the output of the other came out of the right.  I used to have
> one
>> several years ago.  I don't know if they still sell them, but it might be
> worth
>> giving them a ring if you can't find one anywhere else.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Caroline.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Behalf Of kevin and emma
>> Sent: 06 November 2004 16:31
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Cc: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: headphones adaptor
>>
>>
>> sorry for cross posting but this is driving me mad! okay i have a small
> adaptor
>> which allows me to connect 2 pairs of headphones to one audio device.
what
> i'm
>> looking for is something to do the opposite, namely connect 2 audio
> devices to
>> one pair of headphones. can anyone tell me if such a thing exists? and
> where i
>> might find one? even what it might be called would help! email or msn
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers - kevin
>>
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Re: headphones adaptor

2004-11-08 Thread Bobcat
A problem could be that the output of one device could bleed into the other
device.  I don't know how serious that is but it really depends on a lot of
factors.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: headphones adaptor


> I was told by one of our electronics stores that connecting two stereo
> units to one stereo set of headphones with a simple Y-adaptor is not
> feasible. I couldn't say why, and I do not know how true this information
> is.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Bruce Toews
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
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>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, kevin and emma wrote:
>
> > thanks to all for their suggestions! i'll be following up all
usggestions.
> > email or msn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > cheers - kevin
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Moving-Mountains Technology Limited" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
> >
> >
> >> Hi Kevin,
> >>
> >> It is worth contacting Hagger Electronics because if they don't have
one
> > of
> >> these leadfs on the shelf, they will make one up for you to any length
and
> > be
> >> able to advise you on the matter of any impedance mismatch or not as
the
> > case
> >> might be. Please see details below.
> >>
> >> Hagger Electronics,
> >> Unit 22,
> >> Business Centre West,
> >> Avenue One,
> >> Letchworth Garden City,
> >> Hertfordshire SG6 2HB
> >> Tel: 01462 677 331
> >> Fax: 01462 675 016
> >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Web Site: http://www.hagger.co.uk
> >>
> >> Good luck and Kindest Regards,
> >> Ibby Karbhari - Director
> >> Moving-Mountains Technology Limited
> >> 226B Westbourne Park Road, London W11 1EP.
> >> All Sales: 020 7243 0510 - All Support: 020 7243 0500.
> >> Opening Hours: Monday-Friday 9AM-5PM. Saturdays 9AM-12PM (UK Time)
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> http://www.moving-mountains.com
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On
> >> Behalf Of Caroline Ford
> >> Sent: 08 November 2004 20:54
> >> To: PC audio discussion list.
> >> Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin,
> >>
> >> The RNIB used to sell an adaptor which would allow you to connect one
pair
> > of
> >> headphones to two devices so that the output of one came out of the
> > left-hand
> >> side and the output of the other came out of the right.  I used to have
> > one
> >> several years ago.  I don't know if they still sell them, but it might
be
> > worth
> >> giving them a ring if you can't find one anywhere else.
> >>
> >> Good luck,
> >>
> >> Caroline.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Behalf Of kevin and emma
> >> Sent: 06 November 2004 16:31
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Cc: PC audio discussion list.
> >> Subject: headphones adaptor
> >>
> >>
> >> sorry for cross posting but this is driving me mad! okay i have a small
> > adaptor
> >> which allows me to connect 2 pairs of headphones to one audio device.
what
> > i'm
> >> looking for is something to do the opposite, namely connect 2 audio
> > devices to
> >> one pair of headphones. can anyone tell me if such a thing exists? and
> > where i
> >> might find one? even what it might be called would help! email or msn
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers - kevin
> >>
> >>
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Re: headphones adaptor

2004-11-08 Thread Bruce Toews
I was told by one of our electronics stores that connecting two stereo 
units to one stereo set of headphones with a simple Y-adaptor is not 
feasible. I couldn't say why, and I do not know how true this information 
is.

Bruce
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, kevin and emma wrote:
thanks to all for their suggestions! i'll be following up all usggestions.
email or msn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cheers - kevin
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From: "Moving-Mountains Technology Limited" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: headphones adaptor

Hi Kevin,
It is worth contacting Hagger Electronics because if they don't have one
of
these leadfs on the shelf, they will make one up for you to any length and
be
able to advise you on the matter of any impedance mismatch or not as the
case
might be. Please see details below.
Hagger Electronics,
Unit 22,
Business Centre West,
Avenue One,
Letchworth Garden City,
Hertfordshire SG6 2HB
Tel: 01462 677 331
Fax: 01462 675 016
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.hagger.co.uk
Good luck and Kindest Regards,
Ibby Karbhari - Director
Moving-Mountains Technology Limited
226B Westbourne Park Road, London W11 1EP.
All Sales: 020 7243 0510 - All Support: 020 7243 0500.
Opening Hours: Monday-Friday 9AM-5PM. Saturdays 9AM-12PM (UK Time)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.moving-mountains.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Caroline Ford
Sent: 08 November 2004 20:54
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
Kevin,
The RNIB used to sell an adaptor which would allow you to connect one pair
of
headphones to two devices so that the output of one came out of the
left-hand
side and the output of the other came out of the right.  I used to have
one
several years ago.  I don't know if they still sell them, but it might be
worth
giving them a ring if you can't find one anywhere else.
Good luck,
Caroline.
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Sent: 06 November 2004 16:31
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Subject: headphones adaptor
sorry for cross posting but this is driving me mad! okay i have a small
adaptor
which allows me to connect 2 pairs of headphones to one audio device. what
i'm
looking for is something to do the opposite, namely connect 2 audio
devices to
one pair of headphones. can anyone tell me if such a thing exists? and
where i
might find one? even what it might be called would help! email or msn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers - kevin
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Re: headphones adaptor

2004-11-08 Thread kevin and emma
thanks to all for their suggestions! i'll be following up all usggestions.
email or msn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cheers - kevin
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From: "Moving-Mountains Technology Limited" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: headphones adaptor


> Hi Kevin,
>
> It is worth contacting Hagger Electronics because if they don't have one
of
> these leadfs on the shelf, they will make one up for you to any length and
be
> able to advise you on the matter of any impedance mismatch or not as the
case
> might be. Please see details below.
>
> Hagger Electronics,
> Unit 22,
> Business Centre West,
> Avenue One,
> Letchworth Garden City,
> Hertfordshire SG6 2HB
> Tel: 01462 677 331
> Fax: 01462 675 016
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Site: http://www.hagger.co.uk
>
> Good luck and Kindest Regards,
> Ibby Karbhari - Director
> Moving-Mountains Technology Limited
> 226B Westbourne Park Road, London W11 1EP.
> All Sales: 020 7243 0510 - All Support: 020 7243 0500.
> Opening Hours: Monday-Friday 9AM-5PM. Saturdays 9AM-12PM (UK Time)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.moving-mountains.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Caroline Ford
> Sent: 08 November 2004 20:54
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> The RNIB used to sell an adaptor which would allow you to connect one pair
of
> headphones to two devices so that the output of one came out of the
left-hand
> side and the output of the other came out of the right.  I used to have
one
> several years ago.  I don't know if they still sell them, but it might be
worth
> giving them a ring if you can't find one anywhere else.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Caroline.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of kevin and emma
> Sent: 06 November 2004 16:31
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: headphones adaptor
>
>
> sorry for cross posting but this is driving me mad! okay i have a small
adaptor
> which allows me to connect 2 pairs of headphones to one audio device. what
i'm
> looking for is something to do the opposite, namely connect 2 audio
devices to
> one pair of headphones. can anyone tell me if such a thing exists? and
where i
> might find one? even what it might be called would help! email or msn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers - kevin
>
>
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RE: headphones adaptor

2004-11-08 Thread Moving-Mountains Technology Limited
Hi Kevin,

It is worth contacting Hagger Electronics because if they don't have one of
these leadfs on the shelf, they will make one up for you to any length and be
able to advise you on the matter of any impedance mismatch or not as the case
might be. Please see details below.

Hagger Electronics, 
Unit 22, 
Business Centre West, 
Avenue One, 
Letchworth Garden City, 
Hertfordshire SG6 2HB 
Tel: 01462 677 331 
Fax: 01462 675 016
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Site: http://www.hagger.co.uk

Good luck and Kindest Regards,
Ibby Karbhari - Director
Moving-Mountains Technology Limited
226B Westbourne Park Road, London W11 1EP.
All Sales: 020 7243 0510 - All Support: 020 7243 0500.
Opening Hours: Monday-Friday 9AM-5PM. Saturdays 9AM-12PM (UK Time)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.moving-mountains.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Caroline Ford
Sent: 08 November 2004 20:54
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: RE: headphones adaptor


Kevin,

The RNIB used to sell an adaptor which would allow you to connect one pair of
headphones to two devices so that the output of one came out of the left-hand
side and the output of the other came out of the right.  I used to have one
several years ago.  I don't know if they still sell them, but it might be worth
giving them a ring if you can't find one anywhere else.

Good luck,

Caroline.

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Cc: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: headphones adaptor


sorry for cross posting but this is driving me mad! okay i have a small adaptor
which allows me to connect 2 pairs of headphones to one audio device. what i'm
looking for is something to do the opposite, namely connect 2 audio devices to
one pair of headphones. can anyone tell me if such a thing exists? and where i
might find one? even what it might be called would help! email or msn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers - kevin


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RE: headphones adaptor

2004-11-08 Thread Caroline Ford
Kevin,

The RNIB used to sell an adaptor which would allow you to connect one pair
of headphones to two devices so that the output of one came out of the
left-hand side and the output of the other came out of the right.  I used to
have one several years ago.  I don't know if they still sell them, but it
might be worth giving them a ring if you can't find one anywhere else.

Good luck,

Caroline.

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Sent: 06 November 2004 16:31
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Subject: headphones adaptor


sorry for cross posting but this is driving me mad! okay i have a small
adaptor which allows me to connect 2 pairs of headphones to one audio
device. what i'm looking for is something to do the opposite, namely connect
2 audio devices to one pair of headphones. can anyone tell me if such a
thing exists? and where i might find one? even what it might be called would
help!
email or msn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cheers - kevin


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Re: headphones adaptor

2004-11-07 Thread Jerry Richer
 Kevin!  Connecting more than one audio source to one pair of headphones
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Re: headphones adaptor

2004-11-06 Thread Lois Goodine
So you want to connect headphones to two devices.  I would go to
radioshack or some other electronic store and see if they have a Y cable
with a female connector going to two mail connectors.  If your headset is
stereo, then all said connectors must be stereo.  Some time ago I bought a
little box from The American Printing House called a listening post.  It has
four jacks into which you can plug four tape or other players.  Then there's
another single jack into which you plug headphones, or, I think that jack
will work both directions.  I know I can record to four cassette recorders
at once.  But it's only monaural.  But I think the Y cable described above
would work for you if you can find one or have someone build you one.
Lois Goodine


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