Re: removing protection

2010-06-25 Thread hank smith

aggreed
the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
- Original Message - 
From: "Howard Traxler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: removing protection


I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  It had
some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything I own
that plays mp3 files.

Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't
play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them
with my open reel machine.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "André van Deventer" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Another ghing.

Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?

Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I
just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say
you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is
this done?
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw
something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5,
alt plus I.
And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that
area, it will say, "encoder options."
Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options 
are.

Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Hi John and list:  Well..I thought I had done something like you said
(is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure
where it's putting the file!  But will read through these
instructions..and give it another shot!  But right now..I'm just not
understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the ".MP3"
extension?  Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this

very well!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
Highlight the file by having the curser pointing at it.
Go in to your file menu and scroll down to Switch.
Tab over to where it says file options or something rather like that.
Hit the space bar.
You will see a list of file types.
If the default file isn't .mp3, then scroll up or down until you get
to that one.
It also gives you the option to set the bit rate and stereo joint
stereo or force stereo.
After you have done this, then tab over to ok, hit the space bar.
then tab over to the convert button and hit the space bar again.
At this point, Switch will start converting the file to .mp3.
But now that Switch is sat to convert files to .mp3, you can follow
the steps above.
But only, you will hit the F3 key to start Switch to converting
files to .mp3.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Hello list:  Hopefully I don't sound too ignorant..but I've
downloaded "Switch"..but so far..have no idea as to how it works!
So if some of you could get me pointed in the right
direction..would be much appreciated! For instance..I have a couple
of these files that I've mentioned earlier that I need to convert to

MP3s; so how is this done?

Tom Kaufman
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Re: removing protection

2010-06-25 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong 
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use 
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost 
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions 
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if 
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.


--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:

aggreed
the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
- Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: removing protection


I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  
It had

some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything 
I own

that plays mp3 files.

Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I 
couldn't
play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record 
them

with my open reel machine.

Howard
- Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" 


To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Another ghing.

Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?

Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that 
file (I
just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's 
say
you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; 
how is

this done?
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw
something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5,
alt plus I.
And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that
area, it will say, "encoder options."
Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo 
options are.
Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate 
settings.

Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Hi John and list:  Well..I thought I had done something like you said
(is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure
where it's putting the file!  But will read through these
instructions..and give it another shot!  But right now..I'm just not
understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the ".MP3"
extension?  Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of 
this

very well!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
Highlight the file by having the curser pointing at it.
Go in to your file menu and scroll down to Switch.
Tab over to where it says file options or something rather like that.
Hit the space bar.
You will see a list of file types.
If the default file isn't .mp3, then scroll up or down until you get
to that one.
It also gives you the option to set the bit rate and stereo joint
stereo or force stereo.
After you have done this, then tab over to ok, hit the space bar.
then tab over to the convert button and hit the space bar again.
At this point, Switch will start converting the file to .mp3.
But now that Switch is sat to convert files to .mp3, you can follow
the steps above.
But only, you will hit the F3 key to start Switch to converting
files to .mp3.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Hello list:  Hopefully I don't sound too ignorant..but I've
downloaded "Switch"..but so far..have no idea as to how it works!
So if some of you could get me pointed in the right
direction..would be much appreciated! For instance..I have a couple
of these files that I've mentioned earlier that I need to convert to

MP3s; so how is this done?

Tom Kaufman
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Re: removing protection

2010-06-25 Thread Howard Traxler
I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. 
But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated 
with relatively few people.


Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five 
inch reels.  Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet.  I 
borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel.  Of 
course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose.  Quite illegal, I 
would think.  I still have about 125 of those reels.


And then there were the folks who would "purchase" an album, record it to 
tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund.  I never did 
that one.  That wasn't fair to anyone.


But it's so much nicer now.  I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and 
vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files.  It's a long job.  I'm hoping I can 
find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl  of music and 
old radio when I'm done with them.


Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:

aggreed
the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
- Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: removing protection


I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  It 
had

some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything I 
own

that plays mp3 files.

Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I 
couldn't
play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record 
them

with my open reel machine.

Howard
- Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" 


To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Another ghing.

Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?

Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file 
(I

just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say
you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how 
is

this done?
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw
something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5,
alt plus I.
And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that
area, it will say, "encoder options."
Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options 
are.

Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Hi John and list:  Well..I thought I had done something like you said
(is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure
where it's putting the file!  But will read through these
instructions..and give it another shot!  But right now..I'm just not
understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the ".MP3"
extension?  Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this

very well!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
Highlight the file by having the curser pointing at it.
Go in t

Re: removing protection

2010-06-25 Thread hank smith

I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes
I collect them.
please send them my way
- Original Message - 
From: "Howard Traxler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days.
But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated
with relatively few people.

Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five
inch reels.  Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet.  I
borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel.  Of
course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose.  Quite illegal, I
would think.  I still have about 125 of those reels.

And then there were the folks who would "purchase" an album, record it to
tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund.  I never did
that one.  That wasn't fair to anyone.

But it's so much nicer now.  I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and
vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files.  It's a long job.  I'm hoping I can
find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl  of music and
old radio when I'm done with them.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:

aggreed
the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
- Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: removing protection


I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  It 
had

some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything I 
own

that plays mp3 files.

Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I 
couldn't
play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record 
them

with my open reel machine.

Howard
- Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" 


To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Another ghing.

Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?

Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file 
(I

just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say
you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how 
is

this done?
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw
something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5,
alt plus I.
And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that
area, it will say, "encoder options."
Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options 
are.

Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Hi John and list:  Well..I thought I had done something like you said
(is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure
where it's putting the file!  But will read through these
instructions..and give it another shot!  But right now..I'm just not
understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the ".MP3"
extension?  Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this

very well!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Messag

Re: removing protection

2010-06-25 Thread Sunshine
i would also be interested in the material, also let me know when you are 
done i would also like some.

- Original Message - 
From: "hank smith" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes
I collect them.
please send them my way
- Original Message - 
From: "Howard Traxler" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days.
But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated
with relatively few people.

Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five
inch reels.  Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet.  I
borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel.  Of
course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose.  Quite illegal, I
would think.  I still have about 125 of those reels.

And then there were the folks who would "purchase" an album, record it to
tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund.  I never did
that one.  That wasn't fair to anyone.

But it's so much nicer now.  I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and
vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files.  It's a long job.  I'm hoping I can
find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl  of music and
old radio when I'm done with them.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:
> aggreed
> the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
> - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler"
> 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: removing protection
>
>
> I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  It
> had
> some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
> computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
> playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
> GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything I
> own
> that plays mp3 files.
>
> Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I
> couldn't
> play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record
> them
> with my open reel machine.
>
> Howard
> - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer"
> 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>
>
>> Another ghing.
>>
>> Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
>> Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>>
>> Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file
>> (I
>> just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say
>> you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how
>> is
>> this done?
>> Tom Kaufman
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>>
>>
>>> High Tom,
>>> When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw
>>> something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5,
>>> alt plus I.
>>> And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that
>>> area, it will say, "encoder options."
>>> Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options
>>> are.
>>> Also, tabbin

RE: removing protection

2010-06-25 Thread Jamie Kelly
Here Here, likewise. I am especially keen on 16-inch radio transcription
discs.

Jamie


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of hank smith
Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:30 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: removing protection

I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes
I collect them.
please send them my way
- Original Message - 
From: "Howard Traxler" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days.
But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated
with relatively few people.

Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five
inch reels.  Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet.  I
borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel.  Of
course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose.  Quite illegal, I
would think.  I still have about 125 of those reels.

And then there were the folks who would "purchase" an album, record it to
tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund.  I never did
that one.  That wasn't fair to anyone.

But it's so much nicer now.  I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and
vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files.  It's a long job.  I'm hoping I can
find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl  of music and
old radio when I'm done with them.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:
> aggreed
> the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
> - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" 
> 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: removing protection
>
>
> I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  It 
> had
> some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
> computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
> playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
> GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything I 
> own
> that plays mp3 files.
>
> Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I 
> couldn't
> play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record 
> them
> with my open reel machine.
>
> Howard
> - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" 
> 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>
>
>> Another ghing.
>>
>> Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
>> Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>>
>> Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file 
>> (I
>> just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say
>> you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how 
>> is
>> this done?
>> Tom Kaufman
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>>
>>
>>> High Tom,
>>> When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw
>>> something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5,
>>> alt plus I.
>>> And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that
>>> area, it will say, "encoder options."
>>> Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo opti

Re: removing protection

2010-06-25 Thread Howard Traxler
I don't have any of those (transcription discs); I don't even have any 78's 
left.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jamie Kelly" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: removing protection


Here Here, likewise. I am especially keen on 16-inch radio transcription
discs.

Jamie


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of hank smith
Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:30 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: removing protection

I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes
I collect them.
please send them my way
- Original Message - 
From: "Howard Traxler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days.
But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated
with relatively few people.

Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five
inch reels.  Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet.  I
borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel.  Of
course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose.  Quite illegal, I
would think.  I still have about 125 of those reels.

And then there were the folks who would "purchase" an album, record it to
tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund.  I never did
that one.  That wasn't fair to anyone.

But it's so much nicer now.  I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and
vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files.  It's a long job.  I'm hoping I can
find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl  of music and
old radio when I'm done with them.

Howard
- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:

aggreed
the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
- Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler"

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: removing protection


I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  It
had
some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything I
own
that plays mp3 files.

Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I
couldn't
play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record
them
with my open reel machine.

Howard
- Original Message - From: "André van Deventer"

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



Another ghing.

Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?

Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file
(I
just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say
you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how
is
this done?
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?



High Tom,
When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw
something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5,
alt plus I.
And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that
area, it will say, "encoder options."
Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options
are.
Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List"

RE: removing protection

2010-06-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It looks like the discussion really got heated up in the 70's when the US
copyright law was amended and Sony came out with the Betamax. This
ultimately ended up in the Sony versus Universal City Studios (The Betamax
case) which was settled in 1984. This is the decision that allows the
copying of material for the purpose of time shifting and personal use. Prior
to that, the copying of copyrighted material was restricted to educational
use and critical review.

Interestingly enough, the Betamax decision was a close one (5 to 4) that
could have gone either way. I got most of this information from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios
,_Inc.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:45 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: removing protection

I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days.

But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated

with relatively few people.

Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five

inch reels.  Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet.  I 
borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel.  Of 
course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose.  Quite illegal, I 
would think.  I still have about 125 of those reels.

And then there were the folks who would "purchase" an album, record it to 
tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund.  I never did 
that one.  That wasn't fair to anyone.

But it's so much nicer now.  I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and 
vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files.  It's a long job.  I'm hoping I can

find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl  of music and 
old radio when I'm done with them.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:
> aggreed
> the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
> - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler" 
> 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: removing protection
>
>
> I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet.  It 
> had
> some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different
> computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was
> playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I used
> GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on anything I 
> own
> that plays mp3 files.
>
> Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I 
> couldn't
> play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record 
> them
> with my open reel machine.
>
> Howard
> - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" 
> 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>
>
>> Another ghing.
>>
>> Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
>> Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>>
>> Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file 
>> (I
>> just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say
>> you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how 
>> is
>> this done?
>> Tom Kaufman
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>>
>>
>>> High Tom,
>>> When

Re: removing protection

2010-06-26 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Do you folks remember that during the Halcyon days of VCR recording, 
the folks from Hollywood were pressuring the VCR manufacturers to 
insert a chip in each VCR which could be controlled remotely by the 
broadcasters.  Effectively, this would disable the VCR's recording 
capabilities when a movie was being broadcast.

Don Roberts

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: removing protection


It looks like the discussion really got heated up in the 70's when the 
US
copyright law was amended and Sony came out with the Betamax. This
ultimately ended up in the Sony versus Universal City Studios (The 
Betamax
case) which was settled in 1984. This is the decision that allows the
copying of material for the purpose of time shifting and personal use. 
Prior
to that, the copying of copyrighted material was restricted to 
educational
use and critical review.

Interestingly enough, the Betamax decision was a close one (5 to 4) 
that
could have gone either way. I got most of this information from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios
,_Inc.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:45 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: removing protection

I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those 
days.

But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we 
communicated

with relatively few people.

Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it 
into five

inch reels.  Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. 
I
borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. 
Of
course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose.  Quite 
illegal, I
would think.  I still have about 125 of those reels.

And then there were the folks who would "purchase" an album, record it 
to
tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund.  I never 
did
that one.  That wasn't fair to anyone.

But it's so much nicer now.  I have lots of open reels and cassettes, 
and
vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files.  It's a long job.  I'm hoping 
I can

find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl  of music 
and
old radio when I'm done with them.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: removing protection


I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong
that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use
rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, 
almost
as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been 
prohibitions
against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure 
if
this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though.

--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote:
> aggreed
> the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand
> - Original Message - From: "Howard Traxler"
> 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM
> Subject: removing protection
>
>
> I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. 
> It
> had
> some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a 
> different
> computer to play it.  So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I 
> was
> playing it with Winamp.  Total Recorder created a .wav file.  So I 
> used
> GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3.  Now I can play it on 
> anything I
> own
> that plays mp3 files.
>
> Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I
> couldn't
> play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor 
> record
> them
> with my open reel machine.
>
> Howard
> - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer"
> 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>
>
>> Another ghing.
>>
>> Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files?
>>
>> Andre
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
>> Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Have Downloaded "Switch"..Now What?
>>
>> Hey John:  Thanks for the instructions..I actually