Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility
yes. As I said, the just-released version. That's what it's designated. - Original Message - From: "hank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility you running version 8.1.2? - Original Message - From: "Yardbird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC-Audio" Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility > Just recently, I purchased the newest version of this program when I saw its > release announced on another list. The reason I went for it was because I'd > downloaded and tried out the previous version, just weeks earlier, and found > its controls, settings and menus almost entirely accessible to my Jaws 6.0 > under XP Home, with few exceptions. Maybe, now that I think of it, I just > wwasn't aware of some features that Jaws didn't speak, but managed to use > its basic functions anyway, without knowing I could actually tweak important > settings. > > > But now that I've installed the new version, which I'd hoped would be at > least as smooth-functioning with Jaws as its predecessor, I'm disappointed. > Although the menus are still as accessible as before, the tabs and settings > in the modules for burning, ripping and, I suppose, file conversion (though > I didn't explore that function) are full of gaps and things that Jaws can't > pick up just moving about with the Tab key and arrow keys, as before. Some > items can be tricked into speaking, if you know they're there in the first > place, by using the Say Line command, but others just are invisible or > completely impossible to make sense of. I hear "blank" where I'm sure > there's a setting or control, "true" as an alternative to check about > something, I have no idea what, and the browser views and list views > involved in finding files and listing them to burn, for instance, are not > possible for me to figure out. I just wind up tabbing around and around. > Once, I managed to create a CD from files on my hard drive, but I was so > confused that I don't remember how I managed it. > > Has anyone else had trouble with this new version? I've contacted the > developer, who wrote back to me very quickly, though he seemed surprised and > a little taken aback at my inquiry, and at first just asked if there were > some Jaws patches that could be used, or something like that. I explained > that when possible, a program interface was coded in a way that let Jaws > identify its features, and when that failed, there were volunteer script > writers. But that this was an informal arrangement, so that you can't just > order something to compensate for a poorly labeled interface. > > I offered to help find him resources and links for learning more about > coding or whatever you call it to interface with Jaws, but he hasn't written > back again, yet. I'm hoping to maintain a respectful relationship, because > I'd like to support his work, and the program seems nicely designed, very > clean, from what I experienced with the earlier version. > > Anyone else have experience with this new version of the program? I got the > impressing that it's popular with screen reader people, so I wonder if > others are having less trouble with this than I am, or know how to improve > the situation. > Thanks. > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility
you running version 8.1.2? - Original Message - From: "Yardbird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC-Audio" Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility > Just recently, I purchased the newest version of this program when I saw its > release announced on another list. The reason I went for it was because I'd > downloaded and tried out the previous version, just weeks earlier, and found > its controls, settings and menus almost entirely accessible to my Jaws 6.0 > under XP Home, with few exceptions. Maybe, now that I think of it, I just > wwasn't aware of some features that Jaws didn't speak, but managed to use > its basic functions anyway, without knowing I could actually tweak important > settings. > > > But now that I've installed the new version, which I'd hoped would be at > least as smooth-functioning with Jaws as its predecessor, I'm disappointed. > Although the menus are still as accessible as before, the tabs and settings > in the modules for burning, ripping and, I suppose, file conversion (though > I didn't explore that function) are full of gaps and things that Jaws can't > pick up just moving about with the Tab key and arrow keys, as before. Some > items can be tricked into speaking, if you know they're there in the first > place, by using the Say Line command, but others just are invisible or > completely impossible to make sense of. I hear "blank" where I'm sure > there's a setting or control, "true" as an alternative to check about > something, I have no idea what, and the browser views and list views > involved in finding files and listing them to burn, for instance, are not > possible for me to figure out. I just wind up tabbing around and around. > Once, I managed to create a CD from files on my hard drive, but I was so > confused that I don't remember how I managed it. > > Has anyone else had trouble with this new version? I've contacted the > developer, who wrote back to me very quickly, though he seemed surprised and > a little taken aback at my inquiry, and at first just asked if there were > some Jaws patches that could be used, or something like that. I explained > that when possible, a program interface was coded in a way that let Jaws > identify its features, and when that failed, there were volunteer script > writers. But that this was an informal arrangement, so that you can't just > order something to compensate for a poorly labeled interface. > > I offered to help find him resources and links for learning more about > coding or whatever you call it to interface with Jaws, but he hasn't written > back again, yet. I'm hoping to maintain a respectful relationship, because > I'd like to support his work, and the program seems nicely designed, very > clean, from what I experienced with the earlier version. > > Anyone else have experience with this new version of the program? I got the > impressing that it's popular with screen reader people, so I wonder if > others are having less trouble with this than I am, or know how to improve > the situation. > Thanks. > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility
I'm using 6.0. Sorry, thought I'd mentioned that. Under XP Home with SP2. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility Which version of JAWS do you use, Daniel, I honetsly can't remember. Running the latest version of JFW, I have personally not come across these accessibility issues ... which isn't to say they don't exist. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote: > Just recently, I purchased the newest version of this program when I saw > its > release announced on another list. The reason I went for it was because > I'd > downloaded and tried out the previous version, just weeks earlier, and > found > its controls, settings and menus almost entirely accessible to my Jaws 6.0 > under XP Home, with few exceptions. Maybe, now that I think of it, I just > wwasn't aware of some features that Jaws didn't speak, but managed to use > its basic functions anyway, without knowing I could actually tweak > important > settings. > > > But now that I've installed the new version, which I'd hoped would be at > least as smooth-functioning with Jaws as its predecessor, I'm > disappointed. > Although the menus are still as accessible as before, the tabs and > settings > in the modules for burning, ripping and, I suppose, file conversion > (though > I didn't explore that function) are full of gaps and things that Jaws > can't > pick up just moving about with the Tab key and arrow keys, as before. > Some > items can be tricked into speaking, if you know they're there in the first > place, by using the Say Line command, but others just are invisible or > completely impossible to make sense of. I hear "blank" where I'm sure > there's a setting or control, "true" as an alternative to check about > something, I have no idea what, and the browser views and list views > involved in finding files and listing them to burn, for instance, are not > possible for me to figure out. I just wind up tabbing around and around. > Once, I managed to create a CD from files on my hard drive, but I was so > confused that I don't remember how I managed it. > > Has anyone else had trouble with this new version? I've contacted the > developer, who wrote back to me very quickly, though he seemed surprised > and > a little taken aback at my inquiry, and at first just asked if there were > some Jaws patches that could be used, or something like that. I explained > that when possible, a program interface was coded in a way that let Jaws > identify its features, and when that failed, there were volunteer script > writers. But that this was an informal arrangement, so that you can't > just > order something to compensate for a poorly labeled interface. > > I offered to help find him resources and links for learning more about > coding or whatever you call it to interface with Jaws, but he hasn't > written > back again, yet. I'm hoping to maintain a respectful relationship, > because > I'd like to support his work, and the program seems nicely designed, very > clean, from what I experienced with the earlier version. > > Anyone else have experience with this new version of the program? I got > the > impressing that it's popular with screen reader people, so I wonder if > others are having less trouble with this than I am, or know how to improve > the situation. > Thanks. > > > > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 7/14/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CD/DA Extractor accessibility
Which version of JAWS do you use, Daniel, I honetsly can't remember. Running the latest version of JFW, I have personally not come across these accessibility issues ... which isn't to say they don't exist. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Yardbird wrote: Just recently, I purchased the newest version of this program when I saw its release announced on another list. The reason I went for it was because I'd downloaded and tried out the previous version, just weeks earlier, and found its controls, settings and menus almost entirely accessible to my Jaws 6.0 under XP Home, with few exceptions. Maybe, now that I think of it, I just wwasn't aware of some features that Jaws didn't speak, but managed to use its basic functions anyway, without knowing I could actually tweak important settings. But now that I've installed the new version, which I'd hoped would be at least as smooth-functioning with Jaws as its predecessor, I'm disappointed. Although the menus are still as accessible as before, the tabs and settings in the modules for burning, ripping and, I suppose, file conversion (though I didn't explore that function) are full of gaps and things that Jaws can't pick up just moving about with the Tab key and arrow keys, as before. Some items can be tricked into speaking, if you know they're there in the first place, by using the Say Line command, but others just are invisible or completely impossible to make sense of. I hear "blank" where I'm sure there's a setting or control, "true" as an alternative to check about something, I have no idea what, and the browser views and list views involved in finding files and listing them to burn, for instance, are not possible for me to figure out. I just wind up tabbing around and around. Once, I managed to create a CD from files on my hard drive, but I was so confused that I don't remember how I managed it. Has anyone else had trouble with this new version? I've contacted the developer, who wrote back to me very quickly, though he seemed surprised and a little taken aback at my inquiry, and at first just asked if there were some Jaws patches that could be used, or something like that. I explained that when possible, a program interface was coded in a way that let Jaws identify its features, and when that failed, there were volunteer script writers. But that this was an informal arrangement, so that you can't just order something to compensate for a poorly labeled interface. I offered to help find him resources and links for learning more about coding or whatever you call it to interface with Jaws, but he hasn't written back again, yet. I'm hoping to maintain a respectful relationship, because I'd like to support his work, and the program seems nicely designed, very clean, from what I experienced with the earlier version. Anyone else have experience with this new version of the program? I got the impressing that it's popular with screen reader people, so I wonder if others are having less trouble with this than I am, or know how to improve the situation. Thanks. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
