Re: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems

2007-12-08 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Dane, this isn't a list for operating systems or screen reader discussions 
but you've mentioned some interesting applications here.  Might be useful to 
expand on how you're using these applications.  That is, are you totally 
blind and completely relying on voice over or have some small amount of 
sight to get you round some difficulties when necessary or partially sighted 
and using screen magnification.

I think the take up of Macs is about 5% compared to windows so there may 
only be yourself using a mac on this list but it may be useful to others to 
know if the operating system and these applications are totally accessible 
to a blind person using voice over in case someone goes for a change from 
windows and ends up with a pup that they can't fully use.

Kevin
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems


> Hi everyone!
> So how are you all going with Leopard, everything running smoothly is
> it? According to the technology columns in my local paper yesterday,
> the transition from Tiger to Leopard for many Mac owners has been less
> than smooth.
> The writers point out that the first problem which seems to occur is a
> "Blue Screen" when Leopard is installed and the system restarts. Well
> that's an interesting point because when I installed Leopard onto my
> Imac, I wasn't able to reboot the machine but I did have a faulty
> machine at the time so I wouldn't take too much notice of my experience.
> I've installed Leopard on 2 computers here, my Macbook and a friends
> g4 Ibook and both installs went without a hitch but I'd be lying if I
> said that I haven't had a few teething problems with a couple of
> pieces of software, the one which comes to mind is Audio Hijack Pro.
> This software may require you to download extra modules depending on
> how you use the software, for example if you want to instantly hijack
> an application such as Real Player, VLC, Itunes or Quicktime, without
> this plug-in Audio Hijack Pro has to re-launch the application you're
> trying to hijack before you can proceed. So to put this into context,
> suppose you're listening to BBC7 on the Internet through Real Audio
> Player and you decide you like what you're hearing so you launch Audio
> Hijack Pro in order to hijack and record the output of Real audio,
> Select Real Audio from the sessions table and press the Hijack button.
> Audio Hijack Pro then comes up with a warning message telling you that
> Real Audio player has to be re-launched before Hijacking can take
> place, as you can see this sanario  is extremely annoying but that's
> exactly what happens without the Instant Hijack plug-in installed.
> On my systems here and another that a friend and I have tried, Audio
> Hijack Pro (whilst acknowledging that the Instant Hijack plug-in is
> available) will not give you the status, that is whether its installed
> or uninstalled  but its safe to say I think that uninstalled ins the
> likely status . I've written to the developers about this so I
> hope we see some action before too long.
> That's the only really big annoyance I've had to put up with since
> installing Leopard, all my other favourite applications such as Nisus
> Writer Pro (the word processing package I use), Transmit (the FTP
> client I use) all have released updates to cope with Leopard.
> so here's another question. We all know that Leopard was in beta mode
> for quite some considerable time (unless I'm very much mistaken at
> least 12 months or more) so why are these software developers so
> behind when it comes to releasing updates for Leopard? Adobe for
> example doesn't have any plans to release updates for Acrobat or Photo
> Shop until the new year.
>
>
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Re: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems

2007-12-08 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well actually, I was debating whether or not to post the original  
message here in the first place because it was a little off-topic but  
I decided to post the message because one of the software packages  
affected was Audio Hijack Pro so hereafter I'll talk about Audio  
Hijack Pro rather than specifically discussing Leopard, if anyone  
would like to discuss Leopard further then I'll put some links to  
other mailing lists near the end of the message.
So what is Audio Hijack Pro? Well put simply, its an all purpose  
recording application, that is you can "Hijack" a source or multiple  
sources, mix them together, record them, process them (by adding other  
affects, removing noise etc), use an external sound editing programme  
to edit your recordings launching that Editor from Audio Hijack Pro,  
schedule recording times and last but not least, burn the finished  
product to CD or DVD so if you like, Audio Hijack Pro can be best  
described as Total Recorder taking performance enhancing drugs.
One of the main things I use this application for is to record Skype  
phone calls if I have to, this can be don very easily, just select  
"skype" from the table presenting all the Audio Hijack sessions you've  
set up, press the Hijack button and then the Record button.
Audio Hijack Pro can Hijack specific applications or other hardware  
sources, for example you may wish to Hijack Itunes which could be  
playing a preset playlist of musical tracks whilst you hijack a  
hardware mixer and then perhaps Hijack Skype into the mix, you can  
then record your hijacked combination and so forth.
Now in the original message I sent regarding Leopard, I mentioned the  
problems I was having with Audio Hijack Pro under Leopard, since I  
sent that message the developers have returned my email, they've told  
me that an update for Leopard is being worked on right now and should  
be available for public distribution in a few days so I hope that this  
update will sort things out.
Is Audio Hijack Pro available for the PC? Unfortunately not but it  
would be nice if it were.
Is Audio Hijack Accessible under VoiceOver? certainly its very  
accessible and there are some very well-known people using Audio  
Hijack Pro to record regular podcasts and so on, you'll see some very  
familiar names at http://www.blindcooltech.com who use this software  
for their productions. I'm totally blind and I have no problems with  
accessing the software, VoiceOver has facilities to help those who  
have a little sight to navigate the Mac and associated applications.
Ok, for those who wish to find out more about Leopard and VoiceOver's  
many features perhaps you could subscribe to the mac-access list, send  
a blank email message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finally regarding the Mac's market share? Well yep, its about 8%  
actually and I don't think Leopard will ever be a dominant force in  
the marketplace but if you are considering another computer then the  
Mac and Leopard offer you a whole heap of advantages over present-day  
PC technology, Audio is just one area in which the Mac excells plus  
you can run your Windows systems concurrently if you want to.
On 09/12/2007, at 4:04 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote:

> Dane, this isn't a list for operating systems or screen reader  
> discussions
> but you've mentioned some interesting applications here.  Might be  
> useful to
> expand on how you're using these applications.  That is, are you  
> totally
> blind and completely relying on voice over or have some small amount  
> of
> sight to get you round some difficulties when necessary or partially  
> sighted
> and using screen magnification.
>
> I think the take up of Macs is about 5% compared to windows so there  
> may
> only be yourself using a mac on this list but it may be useful to  
> others to
> know if the operating system and these applications are totally  
> accessible
> to a blind person using voice over in case someone goes for a change  
> from
> windows and ends up with a pup that they can't fully use.
>
> Kevin
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:44 PM
> Subject: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems
>
>
>> Hi everyone!
>> So how are you all going with Leopard, everything running smoothly is
>> it? According to the technology columns in my local paper yesterday,
>> the transition from Tiger to Leopard for many Mac owners has been  
>> less
>> than smooth.
>> The writers point out that the first problem which seems to occur  
>> is a
>> "Blue Screen" when Leopard is installed and the system restarts. Well
>> that's an interesting point because when I installed Leopard onto my
>> Imac, I wasn't able to reboot the machine but I did have a faulty
>> machine at the time so I wouldn't take too much notice of my  
>> experience.
>> I've installed Leopard on 2 computers here, my Macbook

Re: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems

2007-12-08 Thread Sunshine
what about a program that can let you use MAC programs under windows such as 
fusin that lets you use windows programs under MAC
is there such a program?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems


> Well actually, I was debating whether or not to post the original
> message here in the first place because it was a little off-topic but
> I decided to post the message because one of the software packages
> affected was Audio Hijack Pro so hereafter I'll talk about Audio
> Hijack Pro rather than specifically discussing Leopard, if anyone
> would like to discuss Leopard further then I'll put some links to
> other mailing lists near the end of the message.
> So what is Audio Hijack Pro? Well put simply, its an all purpose
> recording application, that is you can "Hijack" a source or multiple
> sources, mix them together, record them, process them (by adding other
> affects, removing noise etc), use an external sound editing programme
> to edit your recordings launching that Editor from Audio Hijack Pro,
> schedule recording times and last but not least, burn the finished
> product to CD or DVD so if you like, Audio Hijack Pro can be best
> described as Total Recorder taking performance enhancing drugs.
> One of the main things I use this application for is to record Skype
> phone calls if I have to, this can be don very easily, just select
> "skype" from the table presenting all the Audio Hijack sessions you've
> set up, press the Hijack button and then the Record button.
> Audio Hijack Pro can Hijack specific applications or other hardware
> sources, for example you may wish to Hijack Itunes which could be
> playing a preset playlist of musical tracks whilst you hijack a
> hardware mixer and then perhaps Hijack Skype into the mix, you can
> then record your hijacked combination and so forth.
> Now in the original message I sent regarding Leopard, I mentioned the
> problems I was having with Audio Hijack Pro under Leopard, since I
> sent that message the developers have returned my email, they've told
> me that an update for Leopard is being worked on right now and should
> be available for public distribution in a few days so I hope that this
> update will sort things out.
> Is Audio Hijack Pro available for the PC? Unfortunately not but it
> would be nice if it were.
> Is Audio Hijack Accessible under VoiceOver? certainly its very
> accessible and there are some very well-known people using Audio
> Hijack Pro to record regular podcasts and so on, you'll see some very
> familiar names at http://www.blindcooltech.com who use this software
> for their productions. I'm totally blind and I have no problems with
> accessing the software, VoiceOver has facilities to help those who
> have a little sight to navigate the Mac and associated applications.
> Ok, for those who wish to find out more about Leopard and VoiceOver's
> many features perhaps you could subscribe to the mac-access list, send
> a blank email message to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Finally regarding the Mac's market share? Well yep, its about 8%
> actually and I don't think Leopard will ever be a dominant force in
> the marketplace but if you are considering another computer then the
> Mac and Leopard offer you a whole heap of advantages over present-day
> PC technology, Audio is just one area in which the Mac excells plus
> you can run your Windows systems concurrently if you want to.
> On 09/12/2007, at 4:04 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote:
>
>> Dane, this isn't a list for operating systems or screen reader
>> discussions
>> but you've mentioned some interesting applications here.  Might be
>> useful to
>> expand on how you're using these applications.  That is, are you
>> totally
>> blind and completely relying on voice over or have some small amount
>> of
>> sight to get you round some difficulties when necessary or partially
>> sighted
>> and using screen magnification.
>>
>> I think the take up of Macs is about 5% compared to windows so there
>> may
>> only be yourself using a mac on this list but it may be useful to
>> others to
>> know if the operating system and these applications are totally
>> accessible
>> to a blind person using voice over in case someone goes for a change
>> from
>> windows and ends up with a pup that they can't fully use.
>>
>> Kevin
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems

2007-12-08 Thread Dane Trethowan
As far as I know there aren't but perhaps you could take a look at 
http://www.vmware.com 
  if this site doesn't list one then there isn't one.

On 09/12/2007, at 6:35 AM, Sunshine wrote:

> what about a program that can let you use MAC programs under windows  
> such as
> fusin that lets you use windows programs under MAC
> is there such a program?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems
>
>
>> Well actually, I was debating whether or not to post the original
>> message here in the first place because it was a little off-topic but
>> I decided to post the message because one of the software packages
>> affected was Audio Hijack Pro so hereafter I'll talk about Audio
>> Hijack Pro rather than specifically discussing Leopard, if anyone
>> would like to discuss Leopard further then I'll put some links to
>> other mailing lists near the end of the message.
>> So what is Audio Hijack Pro? Well put simply, its an all purpose
>> recording application, that is you can "Hijack" a source or multiple
>> sources, mix them together, record them, process them (by adding  
>> other
>> affects, removing noise etc), use an external sound editing programme
>> to edit your recordings launching that Editor from Audio Hijack Pro,
>> schedule recording times and last but not least, burn the finished
>> product to CD or DVD so if you like, Audio Hijack Pro can be best
>> described as Total Recorder taking performance enhancing drugs.
>> One of the main things I use this application for is to record Skype
>> phone calls if I have to, this can be don very easily, just select
>> "skype" from the table presenting all the Audio Hijack sessions  
>> you've
>> set up, press the Hijack button and then the Record button.
>> Audio Hijack Pro can Hijack specific applications or other hardware
>> sources, for example you may wish to Hijack Itunes which could be
>> playing a preset playlist of musical tracks whilst you hijack a
>> hardware mixer and then perhaps Hijack Skype into the mix, you can
>> then record your hijacked combination and so forth.
>> Now in the original message I sent regarding Leopard, I mentioned the
>> problems I was having with Audio Hijack Pro under Leopard, since I
>> sent that message the developers have returned my email, they've told
>> me that an update for Leopard is being worked on right now and should
>> be available for public distribution in a few days so I hope that  
>> this
>> update will sort things out.
>> Is Audio Hijack Pro available for the PC? Unfortunately not but it
>> would be nice if it were.
>> Is Audio Hijack Accessible under VoiceOver? certainly its very
>> accessible and there are some very well-known people using Audio
>> Hijack Pro to record regular podcasts and so on, you'll see some very
>> familiar names at http://www.blindcooltech.com who use this software
>> for their productions. I'm totally blind and I have no problems with
>> accessing the software, VoiceOver has facilities to help those who
>> have a little sight to navigate the Mac and associated applications.
>> Ok, for those who wish to find out more about Leopard and VoiceOver's
>> many features perhaps you could subscribe to the mac-access list,  
>> send
>> a blank email message to:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Finally regarding the Mac's market share? Well yep, its about 8%
>> actually and I don't think Leopard will ever be a dominant force in
>> the marketplace but if you are considering another computer then the
>> Mac and Leopard offer you a whole heap of advantages over present-day
>> PC technology, Audio is just one area in which the Mac excells plus
>> you can run your Windows systems concurrently if you want to.
>> On 09/12/2007, at 4:04 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote:
>>
>>> Dane, this isn't a list for operating systems or screen reader
>>> discussions
>>> but you've mentioned some interesting applications here.  Might be
>>> useful to
>>> expand on how you're using these applications.  That is, are you
>>> totally
>>> blind and completely relying on voice over or have some small amount
>>> of
>>> sight to get you round some difficulties when necessary or partially
>>> sighted
>>> and using screen magnification.
>>>
>>> I think the take up of Macs is a