Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-16 Thread Robert Logue
There is an option to rearange ripped tracks in folders using settings from 
the ripping settings.
Rearrange music in rip music folder, using rip music settings. It is checked 
by default.  Don't know where ripped files go when this isn't checked.


Bob

P.S.  WMP12 is very difficult for me to navigate with Jaws.



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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
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From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
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chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP 
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I eventually 
got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my steps!  I kind of 
like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the tracks right out of the 
box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it, you have to set it up to do 
it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as to tell me how to search for 
these tracks (would they be in the WMP library) it would be most 
appreciated!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if 
there is one.

that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are multiple 
entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 versions. I can 
usually tell which is the correct version because track lists are 
different or the number of tracks are different.

One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player 
to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My 
question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message! 
There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of 
the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife 
Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the 
agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that some of you know, once 
you've ripped something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; 
am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using 
this player, it _will not_ let you rip it again until you first remove 
it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most direct root to 
get to the Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to 
remove and delete it?

Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
 library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
 eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
 steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
 tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
 you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
 to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
 library) it would be most appreciated!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]
 
 
 Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
 there is one.
 that or the various, or the unknown artist.
 When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
 multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
 versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
 track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
 One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
 chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
 Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
 getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
 this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
 MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

 On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
 Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks! 
 My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
 message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
 ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
 got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
 to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
 some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
 player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
 anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
 rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
 someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
 library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
 Many thanks!
 Tom Kaufman
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RE: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Adrian Spratt
Tom,

 For locating tracks in WMP, a tip I got from David Biales' manual is to
switch between the library (on the one hand) and all the other options (on
the other) with control-tab. Another way of saying this is if you find
yourself overwhelmed by all the tab sequencing, as I do, just press
control-tab and you should be at the start of the library. Keep tabbing from
there perhaps three times, and a list should appear.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:00 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I eventually
got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my steps!  I kind of
like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the tracks right out of the
box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it, you have to set it up to do
it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as to tell me how to search for
these tracks (would they be in the WMP library) it would be most
appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if 
 there is one.
 that or the various, or the unknown artist.
 When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are 
 multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 
 versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because 
 track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
 One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
 bb
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
 Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


 Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up 
 getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had 
 this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
 the
 MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

 On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media 
 Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  
 My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!
 There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ 
 of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from 
 Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have to go 
 through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that some of 
 you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media player (I 
 forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when 
 you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you rip it again 
 until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can someone tell me 
 the most direct root to get to the Windows Media library; then to 
 get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
 Many thanks!
 Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever I 
want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why that CD 
I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to investigate 
further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this WMP
library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind as
to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from Timelife Music.  So what is the deal?  I don't want to have
to go through the agony of ripping it again, for as I'm sure that
some of you know, once you've ripped something using Windows Media
player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 11 and running Jaws 13)
anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it _will not_ let you
rip it again until you first remove it from the library!  BTW-can
someone tell me the most direct root to get to the Windows Media
library; then to get to what I might want to remove and delete it?
Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that had 
17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name in 
the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory that 
all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your files by 
last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had changes made to 
them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever I 
want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why that 
CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use windows 
explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view and
then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if
there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media
Player to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!
My question is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error
message! There is no reason that I can see as to why it's not
ripping _all_ of the tracks on this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I
got from 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Brett and list:  Based on what knowledge I have (and granted, it's not a 
lot) I've searched for one of the missing tracks from this particular CD, 
using the Windows Search utility; it came up empty!  So I must conclude that 
(for whatever reason) those three tracks did not get ripped..and I still 
have no idea as to why!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Kaufman

But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder called 
unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. I 
have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP took 
the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. When I 
saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that album. 
Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it was my 
missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different album name 
in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]




The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also use other media players like Winamp or FooBar to look
through your library, if those interfaces are easier to use. Even
Windows Explorer should do the trick.

I need to do some ripping on my Windows PC anyway, so I'll take a look
and see if I can offer up any better tips than that.

On 13/06/12 00:59, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Well here's the thing: I know very little about how to navigate this 
WMP

library!  I thought there was an easy way to delete something (I
eventually got there) but I couldn't go back and repeat or retrace my
steps!  I kind of like ripping with WMP for it's ability to title the
tracks right out of the box (CDEX doesn't do this) as I understand it,
you have to set it up to do it!  So maybe if someone would be so kind 
as

to tell me how to search for these tracks (would they be in the WMP
library) it would be most appreciated!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder 
if

there is one.
that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are
multiple entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3
versions. I can usually tell which is the correct version because
track lists are different or the number of tracks are different.
One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended 
up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've 
had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit 
the

MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi Tom et al. Ok. One more shot at this thing and I will step off. If the 
track is miss labeled it might not even have the title or artist correct.
In one of the examples I gave last message. My 17 tracks were ripped 
perfectly. There were 3 tracks I had to hunt down. I finally found them in 
other places 1 of them was labeled as track 1 for the title  and the artist 
was unknown. WMP didn't no what to do with it. Like all ms products it tried 
to think for me and put it in the unknown folder under an album folder 
called unknown album followd by a random number or maybe it was the current 
date. There were a few tracks there from a few different discs btw.
So why did this happen? Well when I removed the cd from my library and 
atempted to rip it again i used the search for cd information on the context 
menu of the cd name. I was presented with an edit box to either search or a 
place to manually type in any information. I did a search and sure enough my 
album was listed 4 different ways. Only 1 of these listings had the same 
number of tracks mine did, which again was 20, the other album listings only 
had 17 tracks.
So, armed with this information I hope it helps you im one way or another. 
Another option of course is to use the search for information and go to the 
edit link to manually edit the track names and such. Then re-rip the cd with 
your new info added.
The good thing about wmp, not to say anything about any other program is 
that it's fast, usually makes a good rip, puts proper tags (when it can find 
them) and names the files accordingly. Again I know many other programs do 
this too but For now I'm sticking with wmp.
And again I will stress, no program I have found yet can tag mp3s like 
winamp. I am amazed sometimes how with little information that sucker can 
tell you what it is.

Good luck and I'll shut up now.
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]


Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped that 
had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different folder 
called unknown.
I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album directory. 
I have found a few stray tracks in other places in these folders.
WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing 
information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP 
took the song and made a new directory and put that one track in there. 
When I saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I didn't own that 
album. Sure enough when I went to see what was inside the directory it 
was my missing track sitting there by itself with a totally different 
album name in the tag.
So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music directory 
that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try sorting your 
files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what folders have had 
changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.

Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your hair.
good luck
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to My 
Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go if I've 
ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it to wherever 
I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still don't know why 
that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the tracks!  Will have to 
investigate further!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use 
windows explorer to see where my files have gone.

hth
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to 
me!)]



The problem is that I very seldom boot my Windows PC anymore, but 
going
from memory, I think you should be able to click on the library view 
and

then view by artist or album to look for those stray tracks. Note that
you can also 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The only other thing I'd suggest is trying to rerip it with another CD
ripper, and see if that has any better luck. I know I use WMP first, but
if WMP has any problems then I try CDEX to see if that does any better.
For example, the other day I ripped a Gaelic Storm CD, and WMP didn't
come up with the tags, so I ripped it with CDEX, which didn't have any
problems finding the right tag information.

On 13/06/12 19:23, Brett Boyer wrote:
 Hi Tom et al. Ok. One more shot at this thing and I will step off. If
 the track is miss labeled it might not even have the title or artist
 correct.
 In one of the examples I gave last message. My 17 tracks were ripped
 perfectly. There were 3 tracks I had to hunt down. I finally found them
 in other places 1 of them was labeled as track 1 for the title  and the
 artist was unknown. WMP didn't no what to do with it. Like all ms
 products it tried to think for me and put it in the unknown folder under
 an album folder called unknown album followd by a random number or maybe
 it was the current date. There were a few tracks there from a few
 different discs btw.
 So why did this happen? Well when I removed the cd from my library and
 atempted to rip it again i used the search for cd information on the
 context menu of the cd name. I was presented with an edit box to either
 search or a place to manually type in any information. I did a search
 and sure enough my album was listed 4 different ways. Only 1 of these
 listings had the same number of tracks mine did, which again was 20, the
 other album listings only had 17 tracks.
 So, armed with this information I hope it helps you im one way or
 another. Another option of course is to use the search for information
 and go to the edit link to manually edit the track names and such. Then
 re-rip the cd with your new info added.
 The good thing about wmp, not to say anything about any other program is
 that it's fast, usually makes a good rip, puts proper tags (when it can
 find them) and names the files accordingly. Again I know many other
 programs do this too but For now I'm sticking with wmp.
 And again I will stress, no program I have found yet can tag mp3s like
 winamp. I am amazed sometimes how with little information that sucker
 can tell you what it is.
 Good luck and I'll shut up now.
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]
 
 
 But I do thank you for trying to help; forgot to say that before!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 Hi Tom and all. Not sure what to tell you. I had a cd that i ripped
 that had 17 tracks out of 20. I found the 3 tracks in a different
 folder called unknown.
 I organize my ripping method by artists directory, then album
 directory. I have found a few stray tracks in other places in these
 folders.
 WMP also moved things around when i had the option to find missing
 information. For example, I had a song that was on a compilation. WMP
 took the song and made a new directory and put that one track in
 there. When I saw the directory of the album name, and I knew I
 didn't own that album. Sure enough when I went to see what was inside
 the directory it was my missing track sitting there by itself with a
 totally different album name in the tag.
 So my advice, not the greatest, is too look around your music
 directory that all your wmp stuff goes in to. If it's a big mess try
 sorting your files by last date modified. This will tel lyou what
 folders have had changes made to them in the most recent to the oldest.
 Again not sure if i'm helping here or just making you pull out your
 hair.
 good luck
 bb
 - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 In my case, I also use Windows Media only to rip music; I then go to
 My Documents; then My Music; that's where my stuff usually will go
 if I've ripped music to my computer.  Once I find it, I then move it
 to wherever I want it; typically to my external drive.  But I still
 don't know why that CD I ripped last night doesn't have all the
 tracks!  Will have to investigate further!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to
 me!)]


 I hate the wmp library and I only use wmp to rip music. I then use
 windows explorer to see where my files have gone.
 hth
 bb
 

Re: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]

2012-06-12 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi. I agree with Chris. A good place to check is the unknown folder if there 
is one.

that or the various, or the unknown artist.
When i rip a cd through wmp I actually search to see if there are multiple 
entries for the cd sometimes I'll find more than 2 or 3 versions. I can 
usually tell which is the correct version because track lists are different 
or the number of tracks are different.

One more thing, IMO, winamp is a much better autotagger than wmp.
bb
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:47 PM
Subject: Ripping with WMP [was Re: An Odd Problem (at least to me!)]



Have you looked around for those tracks? Is it possible they ended up
getting loaded in the library under another artist or album? I've had
this happen to me with different CD rippers, and I usually just edit the
MP3 tags myself to straighten it out.

On 12/06/12 19:42, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hello list:  I have tried twice to rip a CD, using Windows Media Player 
to my computer.  Both times, it omitted three of the tracks!  My question 
is, Why?  As far as I can tell, I got no error message!  There is no 
reason that I can see as to why it's not ripping _all_ of the tracks on 
this CD (it's a commercial CD; one I got from Timelife Music.  So what is 
the deal?  I don't want to have to go through the agony of ripping it 
again, for as I'm sure that some of you know, once you've ripped 
something using Windows Media player (I forgot to mention; am using WMP 
11 and running Jaws 13) anyhow, when you rip a CD using this player, it 
_will not_ let you rip it again until you first remove it from the 
library!  BTW-can someone tell me the most direct root to get to the 
Windows Media library; then to get to what I might want to remove and 
delete it?

Many thanks!
Tom Kaufman
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