RE: Sound bars
A sound bar is exactly what it implies in the case of the one we have. We have a Samsung and it is a long rectangle shaped bar of sound that can sit on the floor or a shelf or be mounted on the wall. It has connections for digital audio, HDMI, and also has a USB card input although that is not very accessible for accessing on our system. We do not have all the equipment you have but I am working on modifying our setup because I'm not happy with the way it's set up right now. Also this model has a wireless subwoofer that is a separate piece of equipment and also needs to be plugged in. That definitely sits on the floor out of the way somewhere. Ours has great sound but I put an HDMI switcher on it because it didn't have enough inputs on it to work with everything I had in spite of the assurances the Best buy salesperson gave me at the local store.
RE: Sound bars
I can't speak for Bose but on the Samsung that we own you could not sit anything on top of it because everything that is on the remote is duplicated as a touch sensitive control on the top of the sound bar.
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Okay thanks, more to think about . On 10 May 2014, at 8:02 am, Merv Keck wrote: > I can't speak for Bose but on the Samsung that we own you could not sit > anything on top of it because everything that is on the remote is duplicated > as a touch sensitive control on the top of the sound bar. > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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Hi again! I'm replying to your eMail for a second time as I forgot to address one of the points made in your original eMail regarding inputs. In a way the salesman at Best Buy was probably right on the money when he said your Soundbar had enough inputs and it probably does given the task it was designed to perform, an input for the TV would be the main one, an input for a DVD or Blue-ray player, an input for a multi media device and that would be more than enough for most Soundbar users. remember that Soundbars are there for their convenience and they're not AVR Receivers or Hi-Fi amplifiers. On 10 May 2014, at 7:24 am, Merv Keck wrote: > A sound bar is exactly what it implies in the case of the one we have. We > have a Samsung and it is a long rectangle shaped bar of sound that can sit > on the floor or a shelf or be mounted on the wall. It has connections for > digital audio, HDMI, and also has a USB card input although that is not very > accessible for accessing on our system. We do not have all the equipment you > have but I am working on modifying our setup because I'm not happy with the > way it's set up right now. Also this model has a wireless subwoofer that is > a separate piece of equipment and also needs to be plugged in. That > definitely sits on the floor out of the way somewhere. Ours has great sound > but I put an HDMI switcher on it because it didn't have enough inputs on it > to work with everything I had in spite of the assurances the Best buy > salesperson gave me at the local store. > > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Sound bars
Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: > Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar > on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is > about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in > length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom > surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound > quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and > needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote > signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. > It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a > blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my > tablet or iphone with it. > > Hope this helps, > Mike > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM > Subject: Soundbars > > > Hi! > > Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone > could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. > > I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller > 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of > a soundbar, would be near perfect. > > So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall > or what? > > > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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Things change rapidly in the tech work, its assumed for example in this day and age that if you buy a large Television then you also have a surround-Sound System or Soundbar to connect to it, as I said in an earlier eMail the speakers in Televisions these days because of the thickness in the main, sound God Damen awful. I can't help feeling that the absence of speakers from these Television sets would save everyone a whole heap of Bother. On 10 May 2014, at 10:47 am, Tom Kaufman wrote: > Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would > have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television > sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that > you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not > much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the > idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out > and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would > be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people > wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here > in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony > 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that > it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe > one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike > Thomas > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to > the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the > television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and > amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably > could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they > sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a > bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the > television sound quality. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > > I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the > Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the > Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart > device. > > > On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: > >> Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar > >> on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is > >> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in > >> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom >> surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound >> quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and > >> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote > >> signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. >> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a >> blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my >> tablet or iphone with it. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Mike >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" >> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM >> Subject: Soundbars >> >> >> Hi! >> >> Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone > >> could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. >> >> I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller > >> 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of > >> a soundbar, would be near perfect. >> >> So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall >> or what? >> >> >> >> > > > ** > > Dane Trethowan > Skype: grtdane12 > Phone US (213) 438-9741 > Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 > Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 > Mobile: +61400494862 > faceTime +61400494862 > Fax +61397437954 > Twitter: @grtdane > > > > > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Sound bars
I hear they are long, but I would think you wouldn't get surround sound from something that's a long rectangle. - Original Message - From: "Merv Keck" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:24 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars A sound bar is exactly what it implies in the case of the one we have. We have a Samsung and it is a long rectangle shaped bar of sound that can sit on the floor or a shelf or be mounted on the wall. It has connections for digital audio, HDMI, and also has a USB card input although that is not very accessible for accessing on our system. We do not have all the equipment you have but I am working on modifying our setup because I'm not happy with the way it's set up right now. Also this model has a wireless subwoofer that is a separate piece of equipment and also needs to be plugged in. That definitely sits on the floor out of the way somewhere. Ours has great sound but I put an HDMI switcher on it because it didn't have enough inputs on it to work with everything I had in spite of the assurances the Best buy salesperson gave me at the local store.
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But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Sound bars
I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars > Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I > would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the > television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! > It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that > audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of > course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the > manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound > system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if > they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people > wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television > back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But > the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't > really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the > TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for > it! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Mike Thomas > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go > to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only > when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the > sound bar and > amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably > could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, > they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help > quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected > to the television sound quality. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > > I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if > the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to > the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with > your smart device. > > > On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: > >> Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a >> sound bar > >> on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I >> purchased is > >> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the >> size in > >> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat >> bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the >> television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit >> behind the sound bar, and > >> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the >> remote > >> signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. >> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a >> blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from >> my tablet or iphone with it. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Mike >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" >> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM >> Subject: Soundbars >> >> >> Hi! >> >> Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps >> someone > >> could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. >> >> I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the >> smaller > >> 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on >> top of > >> a soundbar, would be near perfect. >> >> So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a >> wall or what? >> >> >> >> > > > ** > > Dane Trethowan > Skype: grtdane12 > Phone US (213) 438-9741 > Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 > Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 > Mobile: +61400494862 > faceTime +61400494862 > Fax +61397437954 > Twitter: @grtdane > > > > > >
RE: Sound bars
You get exagurated stereo. The SRS Wow effect. That's all it is. I have SRS all day here. I'm using the Bose Companion 5 Multimedia speakers. It's a pare a USB stereo pare, but you spit a 5.1 signal at them. Thus you get virtual 5.1 surround sound. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:17 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars I hear they are long, but I would think you wouldn't get surround sound from something that's a long rectangle. - Original Message - From: "Merv Keck" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:24 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars >A sound bar is exactly what it implies in the case of the one we have. >We have a Samsung and it is a long rectangle shaped bar of sound that >can sit on the floor or a shelf or be mounted on the wall. It has >connections for digital audio, HDMI, and also has a USB card input >although that is not very accessible for accessing on our system. We >do not have all the equipment you have but I am working on modifying >our setup because I'm not happy with the way it's set up right now. >Also this model has a wireless subwoofer that is a separate piece of >equipment and also needs to be plugged in. That definitely sits on the >floor out of the way somewhere. Ours has great sound but I put an >HDMI switcher on it because it didn't have enough inputs on it to >work with everything I had in spite of the assurances the Best buy >salesperson gave me at the local store. > > >
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Hi Tom, Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar. They offer enough internal enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had. Remember to get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for great stereo separation. Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 65 for the sound bar. It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've never regretted the purchase. Mike - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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I'd say (and granted I don't know as much about it as you all do) but I'd say that the soundbar would work in situations where surround sound just isn't really practical; let's say maybe the room somehow just doesn't allow for surround sound for whatever reason! In this case, then the soundbar would probably work fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:08 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars > Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I > would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the > television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! > It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that > audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of > course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the > manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound > system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if > they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people > wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television > back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But > the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't > really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the > TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for > it! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Mike Thomas > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go > to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only > when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the > sound bar and > amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably > could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, > they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help > quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected > to the television sound quality. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > > I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if > the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to > the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with > your smart device. > > > On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: > >> Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a >> sound bar > >> on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I >> purchased is > >> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the >> size in > >> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat >> bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the >> television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit >> behind the sound bar, and > >> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the >> remote > >> signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. >> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a >> blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from >> my tablet or iphone with it. >> >> Hope this he
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hello all, i'm a bit late coming in on this but if you get a really good sound bar it can be as good as a wired surround sound system. i have both a sound bar in the front room and a wired surround system in the dining room they are both made by yamaha and the soundbar sounds every bit as good as the wired system including you hearing everything around and behind you. the soundbar i have is model yamaha ysp40d. admittedly the normal price of this was £1500 or roughly $2500 but i got it when it was being replaced with a newer model so got it for £500 roughly $830 but it is a very impressive bit of equipment. it is about 40 inches long and has 42 individual speakers in it which fire off the sound in all different directions. when you set it up you plug a microphone in to it on a long lead and place it level with the centre of the tv screen and 6 to 8 feet away then tell it to auto setup and go out of the room and close the door. from outside it sounds like something from the movie close encounter of the third kind as you can hear all these odd sounds being bounced off of every surface in the room. when it's finished it has programmed all the speakers to give off their sound fractions of seconds apart bouncing the sound off of the walls, ceiling, and furniture to give you a full surround effect. when it sets itself up it can even tell weather you have soft furnishing and carpets in the room and takes this into account. it also has a mass of different connections which means you could have 10 or 12 pieces of equipment all connected to it at the same time. i prefer this sound bar to the wired systems as obviously it's neater and you don't need to run wires everywhere, but i do think you need to get a sound bar that has this type of auto setup with multi speakers in it. i've seen several over the last 5 years since i got mine that have this capability but not with as many speakers but they have also been at a much more reasonable price. pete.
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The sound bar would be great for me since I downsized, and can't change the furniture around and so on. can't change the - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:00 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars I'd say (and granted I don't know as much about it as you all do) but I'd say that the soundbar would work in situations where surround sound just isn't really practical; let's say maybe the room somehow just doesn't allow for surround sound for whatever reason! In this case, then the soundbar would probably work fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:08 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
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Hello Mike and list: That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my "stuff"...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that it's completely terrible! But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's practical! Mike, what brand is your sound bar? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars Hi Tom, Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar. They offer enough internal enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had. Remember to get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for great stereo separation. Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 65 for the sound bar. It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've never regretted the purchase. Mike - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars > Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I > would > have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television > sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame > that > you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not > much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the > idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go > out > and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) > would > be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then > people > wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back > here > in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony > 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that > it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe > one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike > Thomas > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to > the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when > the > television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and > amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably > could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, > they > sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a > bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the > television sound quality. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > > I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the > Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the > Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart > device. > > > On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: > >> Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound >> bar > >> on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased >> is > >> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size >> in > >> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom >> surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound >> quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, >> and > >> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the >> remote > >> signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. >> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a >> blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my >> tablet or iphone with it. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Mike >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" >> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" &
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The one I went with was on eBay. Its called ILive, and was a company I never heard of before. It has three equalizer presetts, bass and trebble controls mode for the bluetooth volume and mute on the little credit card sized remote. As I said, I'm by no means an audiophile, but for me it does the job. I learned its available through walmart and you might check their website to see if the size you want is available in your store. Also, if you don't like it, WallyWorld has a pretty good reputation at refundings. Mike - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my "stuff"...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that it's completely terrible! But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's practical! Mike, what brand is your sound bar? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars Hi Tom, Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar. They offer enough internal enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had. Remember to get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for great stereo separation. Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 65 for the sound bar. It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've never regretted the purchase. Mike - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just
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Yeah, for small rooms and stuff. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:00 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars I'd say (and granted I don't know as much about it as you all do) but I'd say that the soundbar would work in situations where surround sound just isn't really practical; let's say maybe the room somehow just doesn't allow for surround sound for whatever reason! In this case, then the soundbar would probably work fine! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:08 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars > Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I > would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the > television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! > It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that > audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of > course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the > manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound > system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if > they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people > wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television > back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But > the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't > really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the > TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for > it! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Mike Thomas > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go > to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only > when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the > sound bar and > amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably > could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, > they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help > quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected > to the television sound quality. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: Soundbars > > > I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if > the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to > the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with > your smart device. > > > On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: > >> Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a >> sound bar > >> on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I >> purchased is > >> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the >> size in > >> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat >> bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the >> television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit >> behind the sound bar, and > >> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the >> remote > >> signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the tel
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I've never heard one, but I thought in a post that someone said that he got that surround experience. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:07 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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This sounds like it makes sense. Bose used to have an Accoustomass system that I heard a demonstration of in a store. The sppeakers seemed close together, and I didn't see how it could sound that way, but in the de4mo, it seems like I did hear things behind me and everywhere, it seems. - Original Message - From: "pete gurney" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Sound bars hello all, i'm a bit late coming in on this but if you get a really good sound bar it can be as good as a wired surround sound system. i have both a sound bar in the front room and a wired surround system in the dining room they are both made by yamaha and the soundbar sounds every bit as good as the wired system including you hearing everything around and behind you. the soundbar i have is model yamaha ysp40d. admittedly the normal price of this was £1500 or roughly $2500 but i got it when it was being replaced with a newer model so got it for £500 roughly $830 but it is a very impressive bit of equipment. it is about 40 inches long and has 42 individual speakers in it which fire off the sound in all different directions. when you set it up you plug a microphone in to it on a long lead and place it level with the centre of the tv screen and 6 to 8 feet away then tell it to auto setup and go out of the room and close the door. from outside it sounds like something from the movie close encounter of the third kind as you can hear all these odd sounds being bounced off of every surface in the room. when it's finished it has programmed all the speakers to give off their sound fractions of seconds apart bouncing the sound off of the walls, ceiling, and furniture to give you a full surround effect. when it sets itself up it can even tell weather you have soft furnishing and carpets in the room and takes this into account. it also has a mass of different connections which means you could have 10 or 12 pieces of equipment all connected to it at the same time. i prefer this sound bar to the wired systems as obviously it's neater and you don't need to run wires everywhere, but i do think you need to get a sound bar that has this type of auto setup with multi speakers in it. i've seen several over the last 5 years since i got mine that have this capability but not with as many speakers but they have also been at a much more reasonable price. pete.
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Ah but the system you are talking about was a real surround sound system. There were 5 speaekrs around your head, each one has an audio track assigned to it thus you got a true surround sound feel. These things are SRS. Fake simulated surround sound. Stretched stereo. I'd love a life style system or one like the one you are talking about. My brother-in-law has one. Epic! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:00 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars This sounds like it makes sense. Bose used to have an Accoustomass system that I heard a demonstration of in a store. The sppeakers seemed close together, and I didn't see how it could sound that way, but in the de4mo, it seems like I did hear things behind me and everywhere, it seems. - Original Message - From: "pete gurney" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Sound bars > hello all, > > i'm a bit late coming in on this but if you get a really good sound > bar it can be as good as a wired surround sound system. > i have both a sound bar in the front room and a wired surround system > in the dining room they are both made by yamaha and the soundbar > sounds every bit as good as the wired system including you hearing > everything around and behind you. > the soundbar i have is model yamaha ysp40d. > admittedly the normal price of this was £1500 or roughly $2500 but i > got it when it was being replaced with a newer model so got it for > £500 roughly > $830 but it is a very impressive bit of equipment. > it is about 40 inches long and has 42 individual speakers in it which > fire off the sound in all different directions. > when you set it up you plug a microphone in to it on a long lead and > place it level with the centre of the tv screen and 6 to 8 feet away > then tell it to auto setup and go out of the room and close the door. > from outside it sounds like something from the movie close encounter > of the third kind as you can hear all these odd sounds being bounced > off of every surface in the room. > when it's finished it has programmed all the speakers to give off > their sound fractions of seconds apart bouncing the sound off of the > walls, ceiling, and furniture to give you a full surround effect. > when it sets itself up it can even tell weather you have soft > furnishing and carpets in the room and takes this into account. > it also has a mass of different connections which means you could > have 10 or 12 pieces of equipment all connected to it at the same time. > i prefer this sound bar to the wired systems as obviously it's neater > and you don't need to run wires everywhere, but i do think you need to > get a sound bar that has this type of auto setup with multi speakers in it. > i've seen several over the last 5 years since i got mine that have > this capability but not with as many speakers but they have also been > at a much more reasonable price. > > pete. > > > >
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Well, somewhat of a surround experience. To get a true one, sadly you will need all 5 or 7 speakers around your head. If you want it like the movie theater which I do. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:45 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars I've never heard one, but I thought in a post that someone said that he got that surround experience. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:07 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars > I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the > fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. > But > there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of > sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes > people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. > Not > so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Gary Wood > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Sound bars > > But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my > surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars > out somewhere. > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Kaufman" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM > Subject: RE: Sound bars > > >> Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I >> would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the >> television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! >> It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that >> audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of >> course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the >> manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound >> system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if >> they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people >> wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television >> back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. >> But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't >> really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for >> the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice >> for it! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Mike Thomas >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Soundbars >> >> The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't >> go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and >> only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to >> the sound bar and >> amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television >> probably >> could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an >> enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even >> cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but >> even I objected to the television sound quality. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM >> Subject: Re: Soundbars >> >> >> I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if >> the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to >> the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with >> your smart device. >> >> >> On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a >>> sound bar >> >>> on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I >>> purchased is >> >>> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the >>> size in >> >>> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat >>> bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the >>> television sound quality immensely, but the television had to
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Would be nice. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars Well, somewhat of a surround experience. To get a true one, sadly you will need all 5 or 7 speakers around your head. If you want it like the movie theater which I do. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:45 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars I've never heard one, but I thought in a post that someone said that he got that surround experience. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:07 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundba
