Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Hi Jason. If you're music is organised into artist and album folders then the Ipod would be fine for you. You can move from the music folder into either artist, album, song or playlists. When in the artist folder you can browse all albums by the artist or all songs and when selecting an album you can see all of the tracks in that album. Now if your collection is organised into folders other than artist and album then you may be right in considering another option if you're not into playlists. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: Jason Boston jwb3...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Thanks, that's one of the deciding factors. It's easy for me to dump folders on a rockbox enabled player since my whole audio library is organized by folder instead of play lists. I don't care much for play lists, but that's a personal preference based around the way I like to organize my files. Thanks for the info. I think I'll be looking for another rockbox compatible player. Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus Hi: I'm afraid that the Nano is library based. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Jason Boston jwb3...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Can you select folders within iPod to play instead of going through a library? That's the feature I like best about rockbox. I can play all the songs from a folder and it's sub-folders in order or shuffled. I'm hoping the same is basically true for iPod nano. I am without a mp3 player right now and am looking for a good one to buy that isn't too pricy. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: iPod Nano and talking menus
One option would be to get a Sansa e200 series from accessibleelectronics.com. These are the V1 versions and they come with Rockbox preloaded. Of course, you could save a few dollars getting one from eBay, but you'll need to make sure it's the V1 version. I think they have a reasonably good port for the V2 now, but I think there's a few features missing. You may want to check on this and that might open up some more possibilities off of eBay. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jason Boston Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:35 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Thanks, that's one of the deciding factors. It's easy for me to dump folders on a rockbox enabled player since my whole audio library is organized by folder instead of play lists. I don't care much for play lists, but that's a personal preference based around the way I like to organize my files. Thanks for the info. I think I'll be looking for another rockbox compatible player. Thanks, Jason -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus Hi: I'm afraid that the Nano is library based. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Jason Boston jwb3...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Can you select folders within iPod to play instead of going through a library? That's the feature I like best about rockbox. I can play all the songs from a folder and it's sub-folders in order or shuffled. I'm hoping the same is basically true for iPod nano. I am without a mp3 player right now and am looking for a good one to buy that isn't too pricy. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: iPod Nano and talking menus
Can you select folders within iPod to play instead of going through a library? That's the feature I like best about rockbox. I can play all the songs from a folder and it's sub-folders in order or shuffled. I'm hoping the same is basically true for iPod nano. I am without a mp3 player right now and am looking for a good one to buy that isn't too pricy. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Certainly can! from memory you go to the Music menu, go to the playlist menu, select the playlist you want and then press the enter button, all playlists have voice tags associated with them. On 28/11/2009, at 5:19 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Can you select folders within iPod to play instead of going through a library? That's the feature I like best about rockbox. I can play all the songs from a folder and it's sub-folders in order or shuffled. I'm hoping the same is basically true for iPod nano. I am without a mp3 player right now and am looking for a good one to buy that isn't too pricy. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: iPod Nano and talking menus
I don't have an iPod Nano, but I always assumed it behaved similarly to Rockbox. The note below says Rockbox uses TTS, but this isn't the case, at least it isn't the case that you have a TTS running on rockbox. With the iPod Nano you use iTunes to generate the voice clips on your PC and transfer them to your Nano. With Rockbox, you use VoiceBox on your PC to do the same thing. I didn't realize the iPod Nano 5th generation ran VoiceOver. I thought that was only available on the iPod Touch and iPhone. Based on what I'm reading on the portable player mailing list, I'm pretty sure the iPod Nano 5th generation works the same way as the 4th generation Nano, so no VoiceOver. You can still get 4th generation iPod Nano's at accessibleelectronics.com. They have the 8G 4th generation iPod Nano's for $95. BTW, they also sell Sandisk Sansa e200 series portable media players with Rockbox already installed. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Hi: I'm afraid that the Nano is library based. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Jason Boston jwb3...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Can you select folders within iPod to play instead of going through a library? That's the feature I like best about rockbox. I can play all the songs from a folder and it's sub-folders in order or shuffled. I'm hoping the same is basically true for iPod nano. I am without a mp3 player right now and am looking for a good one to buy that isn't too pricy. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Hello: You are correct. Rockbox uses basically the same technology as the Nano: that is to say, voice clips. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus I don't have an iPod Nano, but I always assumed it behaved similarly to Rockbox. The note below says Rockbox uses TTS, but this isn't the case, at least it isn't the case that you have a TTS running on rockbox. With the iPod Nano you use iTunes to generate the voice clips on your PC and transfer them to your Nano. With Rockbox, you use VoiceBox on your PC to do the same thing. I didn't realize the iPod Nano 5th generation ran VoiceOver. I thought that was only available on the iPod Touch and iPhone. Based on what I'm reading on the portable player mailing list, I'm pretty sure the iPod Nano 5th generation works the same way as the 4th generation Nano, so no VoiceOver. You can still get 4th generation iPod Nano's at accessibleelectronics.com. They have the 8G 4th generation iPod Nano's for $95. BTW, they also sell Sandisk Sansa e200 series portable media players with Rockbox already installed. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Yes it is however as I said earlier you can select the playlists you require and I explained how this was done. On 28/11/2009, at 6:37 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hi: I'm afraid that the Nano is library based. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Jason Boston jwb3...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus Can you select folders within iPod to play instead of going through a library? That's the feature I like best about rockbox. I can play all the songs from a folder and it's sub-folders in order or shuffled. I'm hoping the same is basically true for iPod nano. I am without a mp3 player right now and am looking for a good one to buy that isn't too pricy. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Okay, well if that's the case then things changed since I last used it, the version I used for the Iriver used text to speech though it may have used voice clips for the menus come to think of it but certainly text to speech when it came to the file browser and so on. On 28/11/2009, at 6:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hello: You are correct. Rockbox uses basically the same technology as the Nano: that is to say, voice clips. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus I don't have an iPod Nano, but I always assumed it behaved similarly to Rockbox. The note below says Rockbox uses TTS, but this isn't the case, at least it isn't the case that you have a TTS running on rockbox. With the iPod Nano you use iTunes to generate the voice clips on your PC and transfer them to your Nano. With Rockbox, you use VoiceBox on your PC to do the same thing. I didn't realize the iPod Nano 5th generation ran VoiceOver. I thought that was only available on the iPod Touch and iPhone. Based on what I'm reading on the portable player mailing list, I'm pretty sure the iPod Nano 5th generation works the same way as the 4th generation Nano, so no VoiceOver. You can still get 4th generation iPod Nano's at accessibleelectronics.com. They have the 8G 4th generation iPod Nano's for $95. BTW, they also sell Sandisk Sansa e200 series portable media players with Rockbox already installed. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: iPod Nano and talking menus
Dane: The Rockbox menues are simply voice clips generated by a different method than the file voice clips. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus Okay, well if that's the case then things changed since I last used it, the version I used for the Iriver used text to speech though it may have used voice clips for the menus come to think of it but certainly text to speech when it came to the file browser and so on. On 28/11/2009, at 6:39 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hello: You are correct. Rockbox uses basically the same technology as the Nano: that is to say, voice clips. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: RE: iPod Nano and talking menus I don't have an iPod Nano, but I always assumed it behaved similarly to Rockbox. The note below says Rockbox uses TTS, but this isn't the case, at least it isn't the case that you have a TTS running on rockbox. With the iPod Nano you use iTunes to generate the voice clips on your PC and transfer them to your Nano. With Rockbox, you use VoiceBox on your PC to do the same thing. I didn't realize the iPod Nano 5th generation ran VoiceOver. I thought that was only available on the iPod Touch and iPhone. Based on what I'm reading on the portable player mailing list, I'm pretty sure the iPod Nano 5th generation works the same way as the 4th generation Nano, so no VoiceOver. You can still get 4th generation iPod Nano's at accessibleelectronics.com. They have the 8G 4th generation iPod Nano's for $95. BTW, they also sell Sandisk Sansa e200 series portable media players with Rockbox already installed. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 12:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: iPod Nano and talking menus It doesn't compare because both are based on completely different principles. The Ipod Forth Generation nano uses voice tags whereas Rockbox uses TTS. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages, for instance you get the title, artist and so on of a particular song announced on your Ipod Forth Generation word by word - example: Dean Martin - Everybody Loves Somebody Sometimes whereas this information is spelt out letter by letter. You also have more options over what kind of speech you want, this is set from the computer you're connecting the Ipod with whether that be a Mac or Windows system, with Rockbox I found it very difficult to find a good speech engine to my liking, I did find one in the end though others were just too fast for my liking. The only problem I've struck with the Ipod Forth Generation Nano is that some of its applications such as time/date alarm and the like are completely unusable but again, that's what you expect to happen if you're using voice tags, the menus all speak however. We're up to the Ipod Fifth generation now and that unit has Voiceover built-in to it so in other words, the Ipod Nano Fifth Generation has a Built-in Screen Reader so its completely customisable. I don't know even if you can buy an Ipod Nano Forth Generation now can you? I have one here and I wouldn't give it up for quits I can tell you, well not at least until I get my Iphone next week - if they haven't sold out in the meantime smile -' On 28/11/2009, at 4:50 AM, Jason Boston wrote: Has anyone had any experience with the talking menus in the 4th generation iPod nanos? I'm curious how it compares to the accessibility of rockbox. Thanks, Jason To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12
