Re: Shortwave Radio
Hello nice find am book marking this one. thanks Hank On 1/21/2016 12:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Hi! Here's a most interesting article on Short Wave radio and other associated topics written from a South African perspective, even so there's a hell of a lot of good reference material here including where to go to get those nice software decoders for your PC and even some sections on DRM Digital radio. I'm told that South Africa is the place to go these days to buy Short Wave sets given that Short Wave is still apparently widely used over there though perhaps Andre could tell us more about that and by the way Andre, I know your name ends with an Accuted E but I have no idea how to represent one of those on my Windows or Mac computer keyboards so please forgive me . http://oldradios.co.za/features/38-informative/91-shortwave-radio.html
Re: shortwave radio
the next in the grundig line would be the yot boy or if all you're looking for is a good HF receiver then give either the Icomm r5000 or r7000 a look. To other comments I have seen DRM is not going to find much of an audience in the developing world and those broadcasters which have discontinued SW broadcasting in favor of satellite Internet and local retransmission agreements are going to find if they fall out of favor with a government with which they have a retran agreement the decision to drop SW will bite them in the arse and hard! Ray T. Mahorney WA4WGA M0WGA - Original Message - From: "chris ramsay" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio the best shortwave radio you can get is the grundig satelite 800 but it is discontinued. also any of the drake boxes are good. or get an amateur transceiver with general coverage like yaesu ft1000d you can get one for about 1,500. chris - Original Message - From: "Casey" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:29 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio > Hi I have the Grundig g 5 shortwave radio and I like it and it has good > f.m receive as well. > > Casey > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:51 PM > Subject: Re: shortwave radio > > >> The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They >> are resonably priced as well. . >> - Original Message - >> From: "thao vy" >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM >> Subject: shortwave radio >> >> >>> Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can >>> purchase? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: shortwave radio
the best shortwave radio you can get is the grundig satelite 800 but it is discontinued. also any of the drake boxes are good. or get an amateur transceiver with general coverage like yaesu ft1000d you can get one for about 1,500. chris - Original Message - From: "Casey" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:29 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi I have the Grundig g 5 shortwave radio and I like it and it has good f.m receive as well. Casey - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Please discontinue posting messings on the subject of shortwave radio. It is not appropriate for the PC Audio list. Thanks, Tom To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hold on to it! Vacuum tube radios were built very good back then, and usually have a good front end. . - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:21 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio High Bob Dain and all, In an earlier post, I said something about my VAL RSW-801 radio. I pick up a lot of short wave stations from all over the globe. This is the case with both SW-1 and SW-2 bands. The thing I didn't mention, is this radio has a vacuum tube amplifier built in to it. Sometimes I wonder if the tubes helps the reception? But then again, who knows? I guess it all depends on how the radio is made, and who made it. John. - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio CBC Radio in Canada still maintains a shortwave radio service. People living abroad are able to hear news from their home country. . - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well certainly its dead from the broadcasters point of view such as the BBC and the like but I certainly take your point about the DX person, I don't do much short-wave listening myself these days but I certainly do Medium-Wave listening, I'm in an ideal locatioon. I think we in Australia are very well off as far as DX listening goes on medium-Wave, doesn't the new Digital Radio sstandard in the U.S. use the Medium-Wave band with a data stream or something? If that's the case then I could see how annoying that would be to hear the data being received by a medium-wave set. Now I've just been talking to a friend of mine about some short-wave sets and he seems to think that some of the "wind-up" type give very good performance. I also recall tthat Radio Netherlands had a good Short-Wave radio review page at some stage, if you can't find it on their site then perhaps you'll find it at www.archive.org Bob Seed wrote: The only reason why short-wave reception is so poor at this time is that we are probably at the bottom of the cycle. Believe me short-wave radio is not dead by any stretch of the imagination. Lots of D X ers out there. Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency me
Re: shortwave radio
High Bob Dain and all, In an earlier post, I said something about my VAL RSW-801 radio. I pick up a lot of short wave stations from all over the globe. This is the case with both SW-1 and SW-2 bands. The thing I didn't mention, is this radio has a vacuum tube amplifier built in to it. Sometimes I wonder if the tubes helps the reception? But then again, who knows? I guess it all depends on how the radio is made, and who made it. John. - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio CBC Radio in Canada still maintains a shortwave radio service. People living abroad are able to hear news from their home country. . - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well certainly its dead from the broadcasters point of view such as the BBC and the like but I certainly take your point about the DX person, I don't do much short-wave listening myself these days but I certainly do Medium-Wave listening, I'm in an ideal locatioon. I think we in Australia are very well off as far as DX listening goes on medium-Wave, doesn't the new Digital Radio sstandard in the U.S. use the Medium-Wave band with a data stream or something? If that's the case then I could see how annoying that would be to hear the data being received by a medium-wave set. Now I've just been talking to a friend of mine about some short-wave sets and he seems to think that some of the "wind-up" type give very good performance. I also recall tthat Radio Netherlands had a good Short-Wave radio review page at some stage, if you can't find it on their site then perhaps you'll find it at www.archive.org Bob Seed wrote: The only reason why short-wave reception is so poor at this time is that we are probably at the bottom of the cycle. Believe me short-wave radio is not dead by any stretch of the imagination. Lots of D X ers out there. Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discus
Re: shortwave radio
CBC Radio in Canada still maintains a shortwave radio service. People living abroad are able to hear news from their home country. . - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well certainly its dead from the broadcasters point of view such as the BBC and the like but I certainly take your point about the DX person, I don't do much short-wave listening myself these days but I certainly do Medium-Wave listening, I'm in an ideal locatioon. I think we in Australia are very well off as far as DX listening goes on medium-Wave, doesn't the new Digital Radio sstandard in the U.S. use the Medium-Wave band with a data stream or something? If that's the case then I could see how annoying that would be to hear the data being received by a medium-wave set. Now I've just been talking to a friend of mine about some short-wave sets and he seems to think that some of the "wind-up" type give very good performance. I also recall tthat Radio Netherlands had a good Short-Wave radio review page at some stage, if you can't find it on their site then perhaps you'll find it at www.archive.org Bob Seed wrote: The only reason why short-wave reception is so poor at this time is that we are probably at the bottom of the cycle. Believe me short-wave radio is not dead by any stretch of the imagination. Lots of D X ers out there. Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589
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Thanks for the correction . André van Deventer wrote: Dane I happen to be from a developing country [smile]! But I get your point. But there are literally millions of older radios with shortwave around here still. I know the SA broadcasting corporation want to switch over to digital radio but it is simply completely unworkable here. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 06:21 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/16/09 07:43:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: shortwave radio
Well certainly its dead from the broadcasters point of view such as the BBC and the like but I certainly take your point about the DX person, I don't do much short-wave listening myself these days but I certainly do Medium-Wave listening, I'm in an ideal locatioon. I think we in Australia are very well off as far as DX listening goes on medium-Wave, doesn't the new Digital Radio sstandard in the U.S. use the Medium-Wave band with a data stream or something? If that's the case then I could see how annoying that would be to hear the data being received by a medium-wave set. Now I've just been talking to a friend of mine about some short-wave sets and he seems to think that some of the "wind-up" type give very good performance. I also recall tthat Radio Netherlands had a good Short-Wave radio review page at some stage, if you can't find it on their site then perhaps you'll find it at www.archive.org Bob Seed wrote: The only reason why short-wave reception is so poor at this time is that we are probably at the bottom of the cycle. Believe me short-wave radio is not dead by any stretch of the imagination. Lots of D X ers out there. Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Ver
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Dane I happen to be from a developing country [smile]! But I get your point. But there are literally millions of older radios with shortwave around here still. I know the SA broadcasting corporation want to switch over to digital radio but it is simply completely unworkable here. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 06:21 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: > I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa > it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! > > Andre > > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: shortwave radio > > I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly > anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of > shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the > "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've > never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. > > Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, > I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I > know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony > boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band > in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a > set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards > for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price > given the power of the processor chip these days. > > Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious > listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn > its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I > think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a > communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of > stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc > so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could > get emergency messages out to the public and son on. > > > On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: > > >> The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. >> They >> > are resonably priced as well. . > >> - Original Message - From: "thao vy" >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM >> Subject: shortwave radio >> >> >> >>> Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can >>> > purchase? > >>> Thanks. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> > > > ** > > Dane Trethowan > >From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net > Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane > blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom > 02032874641 > Phone Australia > 0390058589 > Phone United States > 8159261869 > Fax: > +61 3 9743 7954x > MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net > skype:grtdane12 > > ** > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: > 11/16/09 07:43:00 > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > -- Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd..
Re: shortwave radio
The only reason why short-wave reception is so poor at this time is that we are probably at the bottom of the cycle. Believe me short-wave radio is not dead by any stretch of the imagination. Lots of D X ers out there. Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/16/09 07:43:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: shortwave radio
Well even there that's debatable as the BBC for example is finding cheaper alternatives such as localised FM transmissions but I take your point all the same but let's face it, I doubt whether any of us on this list are from "developing countries" so taking your point in practical terms I still ask, what's the point when shortwave transmissions will be beamed to developing countries and not us so most of the time you won't be able to receive them anyway? Sorry! you're just wasting your time and money. André van Deventer wrote: I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/16/09 07:43:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: shortwave radio
I can assure you that in developing countries and especially in Africa it seems as if shortwave is still alive and well! Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 17 November 2009 03:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: shortwave radio I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: > The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . > - Original Message - From: "thao vy" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM > Subject: shortwave radio > > >> Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? >> Thanks. >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/16/09 07:43:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: shortwave radio
I really don't know why all the bother on this because there is hardly anything on the band right at the moment and a new standard of shortwave radio will arrive on the market in the coming year, the "DRM" standard will be used ensuring you'll hear shortwave as you've never heard it before, near CD quality in other words, no fading, no crackle etc. Now it may be that some sets out there are already "DRM" compatible, I'm not aware of any at this time but that doesn't mean anything. I know Sony had plans to launch a "multi standard" set which Sony boasted at the time could "Receive any domestic broadcast on any band in the world?" Well we'll wait and see on that one, obviously such a set would be adapted to suit each country's different DAB standards for example but such a set isn't beyond the realms of a cheap price given the power of the processor chip these days. Let's face it, the "shortwave" as we knew it is a definite and obvious listening medium of the past for better or for worse. Yes, I mourn its passing and we're going to regret the day that it ever died I think, if a country for one reason or another decides to shoot down a communications satellite? Well that could take out a whole heap of stuff including radio and TV broadcasts, cell phone communications etc so it will be interesting to see how fire, police and so forth could get emergency messages out to the public and son on. On 16/11/2009, at 4:51 PM, Bob Seed wrote: > The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are > resonably priced as well. . > - Original Message - From: "thao vy" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM > Subject: shortwave radio > > >> Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can >> purchase? >> Thanks. >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hi I have the Grundig g 5 shortwave radio and I like it and it has good f.m receive as well. Casey - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: shortwave radio
Discussing shortwave radios is off topic for the PC Audio list and besides I think the question has been answered several times. Thanks, Tom To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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thanks for the clarification Adrian. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:56 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, Gary. I believe Bob Crane is the company's owner. He's certainly the spokesperson. The guy who produces the cassettes is named Tim and, last I heard, he lived in Alabama, though his accent was hardly from there. His last name still escapes me. Tom, list owner, I'm surely testing your patience, so I'll stop here! - Original Message - From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:35 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio I seem to think the guy who does the cassettes for C Crane is Bob. I live in a valley here, and it doesn't matter what radio you have, reception stinks, whether it be the Sangean ATS909, 918 or the Sony ICF-236, whatever. for the most part, C Crane sells the best of the best, so whom ever can't go wrong whith whatever radio they buy. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio A nice consideration about Pam's C Crane/Sangean 909 suggestion is that C Crane provides cassette directions for many of its products, probably including the 909. You must request it, but the cassette is free. I know C Crane sells Sangean products. I don't believe they offer the other brands you mention here, and they certainly don't promote them the way they do Sangean. The man who does these cassettes does an excellent job, and I'm sorry that his name escapes me as I write. Since you rightly bring up price, it is worth subscribing to C Crane's email notifications because they have periodic sales and also sell what they call "orphans" at a discount. No, I'm not an employee. I'm just a very satisfied customer. Sadly for me, no shortwave radio works well here in my section of Brooklyn. I've tried a couple of C Crane's shortwave radios, but have had to return them for the full refund they promise within thirty days. ----- Original Message - From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if they make that model any more. you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and work just as well. - Original Message - From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: shortwave radio
The grundig line of radios are very good and have agood front end. They are resonably priced as well. . - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hello, I would suggest to you the VAL RSW-801 radio, but it is kind of expensive. It cost $849. It has 2 bands of short wave. SW-1 and SW-2. Plus, it is an excellent am fm stereo receiver too as well. I have one of these radios, I couldn't be any happier with any other radio! I got mine from: www.questforsound.com It is a very nice looking radio, according to my sighted wife. But I like its sound and the fact that it can pull in week stations without any problems. My best regards to you all. John. - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hi, Gary. I believe Bob Crane is the company's owner. He's certainly the spokesperson. The guy who produces the cassettes is named Tim and, last I heard, he lived in Alabama, though his accent was hardly from there. His last name still escapes me. Tom, list owner, I'm surely testing your patience, so I'll stop here! - Original Message - From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:35 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio I seem to think the guy who does the cassettes for C Crane is Bob. I live in a valley here, and it doesn't matter what radio you have, reception stinks, whether it be the Sangean ATS909, 918 or the Sony ICF-236, whatever. for the most part, C Crane sells the best of the best, so whom ever can't go wrong whith whatever radio they buy. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio A nice consideration about Pam's C Crane/Sangean 909 suggestion is that C Crane provides cassette directions for many of its products, probably including the 909. You must request it, but the cassette is free. I know C Crane sells Sangean products. I don't believe they offer the other brands you mention here, and they certainly don't promote them the way they do Sangean. The man who does these cassettes does an excellent job, and I'm sorry that his name escapes me as I write. Since you rightly bring up price, it is worth subscribing to C Crane's email notifications because they have periodic sales and also sell what they call "orphans" at a discount. No, I'm not an employee. I'm just a very satisfied customer. Sadly for me, no shortwave radio works well here in my section of Brooklyn. I've tried a couple of C Crane's shortwave radios, but have had to return them for the full refund they promise within thirty days. - Original Message - From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if they make that model any more. you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and work just as well. - Original Message - From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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I could recommend you a good one but is there really any point? Last time I listened to the shortwave band - about 6 months ago - there really wasn't anything there apart from a couple of Christian radio stations On 16/11/2009, at 1:02 PM, thao vy wrote: > Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? > Thanks. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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I have always liked the selectivity and sensitivity of Sangean radios. where Sony might have the edge is how it handles night time fade. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:05 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Sorry to belabor this subject and to sound like a salesperson, but a few more notes. First, I find Sangean's sound quality better than Sony's. I have Sangean's non-shortwave radios, and they're wonderful for small models. Second, I referred to the radios I've returned to C Crane, but I've kept most items I've bought over the years. Okay, the website address: http://www.ccrane.com - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio A nice consideration about Pam's C Crane/Sangean 909 suggestion is that C Crane provides cassette directions for many of its products, probably including the 909. You must request it, but the cassette is free. I know C Crane sells Sangean products. I don't believe they offer the other brands you mention here, and they certainly don't promote them the way they do Sangean. The man who does these cassettes does an excellent job, and I'm sorry that his name escapes me as I write. Since you rightly bring up price, it is worth subscribing to C Crane's email notifications because they have periodic sales and also sell what they call "orphans" at a discount. No, I'm not an employee. I'm just a very satisfied customer. Sadly for me, no shortwave radio works well here in my section of Brooklyn. I've tried a couple of C Crane's shortwave radios, but have had to return them for the full refund they promise within thirty days. - Original Message - From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if they make that model any more. you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and work just as well. - Original Message - From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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I seem to think the guy who does the cassettes for C Crane is Bob. I live in a valley here, and it doesn't matter what radio you have, reception stinks, whether it be the Sangean ATS909, 918 or the Sony ICF-236, whatever. for the most part, C Crane sells the best of the best, so whom ever can't go wrong whith whatever radio they buy. - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio A nice consideration about Pam's C Crane/Sangean 909 suggestion is that C Crane provides cassette directions for many of its products, probably including the 909. You must request it, but the cassette is free. I know C Crane sells Sangean products. I don't believe they offer the other brands you mention here, and they certainly don't promote them the way they do Sangean. The man who does these cassettes does an excellent job, and I'm sorry that his name escapes me as I write. Since you rightly bring up price, it is worth subscribing to C Crane's email notifications because they have periodic sales and also sell what they call "orphans" at a discount. No, I'm not an employee. I'm just a very satisfied customer. Sadly for me, no shortwave radio works well here in my section of Brooklyn. I've tried a couple of C Crane's shortwave radios, but have had to return them for the full refund they promise within thirty days. - Original Message - From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if they make that model any more. you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and work just as well. - Original Message ----- From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Sorry to belabor this subject and to sound like a salesperson, but a few more notes. First, I find Sangean's sound quality better than Sony's. I have Sangean's non-shortwave radios, and they're wonderful for small models. Second, I referred to the radios I've returned to C Crane, but I've kept most items I've bought over the years. Okay, the website address: http://www.ccrane.com - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio A nice consideration about Pam's C Crane/Sangean 909 suggestion is that C Crane provides cassette directions for many of its products, probably including the 909. You must request it, but the cassette is free. I know C Crane sells Sangean products. I don't believe they offer the other brands you mention here, and they certainly don't promote them the way they do Sangean. The man who does these cassettes does an excellent job, and I'm sorry that his name escapes me as I write. Since you rightly bring up price, it is worth subscribing to C Crane's email notifications because they have periodic sales and also sell what they call "orphans" at a discount. No, I'm not an employee. I'm just a very satisfied customer. Sadly for me, no shortwave radio works well here in my section of Brooklyn. I've tried a couple of C Crane's shortwave radios, but have had to return them for the full refund they promise within thirty days. - Original Message ----- From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if they make that model any more. you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and work just as well. - Original Message - From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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A nice consideration about Pam's C Crane/Sangean 909 suggestion is that C Crane provides cassette directions for many of its products, probably including the 909. You must request it, but the cassette is free. I know C Crane sells Sangean products. I don't believe they offer the other brands you mention here, and they certainly don't promote them the way they do Sangean. The man who does these cassettes does an excellent job, and I'm sorry that his name escapes me as I write. Since you rightly bring up price, it is worth subscribing to C Crane's email notifications because they have periodic sales and also sell what they call "orphans" at a discount. No, I'm not an employee. I'm just a very satisfied customer. Sadly for me, no shortwave radio works well here in my section of Brooklyn. I've tried a couple of C Crane's shortwave radios, but have had to return them for the full refund they promise within thirty days. - Original Message - From: "Gary Schindler" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if they make that model any more. you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and work just as well. - Original Message - From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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the ATS909 radio is made by Sangean actually, and I don't know for sure if they make that model any more. you can look at Sony and Kaido models too, which are more affordable and work just as well. - Original Message - From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Thank you Pam. - Original Message - From: "Pam Walters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: shortwave radio Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hi, I would recommend the ats909 from ccrane. Pam - Original Message - From: "thao vy" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: shortwave radio Could someone please recommend a good shortwave radio that I can purchase? Thanks. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
