Re: listen to music in surrround sound
I love surround for films where you've got things happening all around you (the battle scenes in Star Wars for example), but for music I find it a bit pointless; I don't go to a concert and sit on the stage. For general listening I stick with stereo. On the other hand, listen in mono and it sounds good where-ever you are in the room! :-) -- rgds LAurence ...A book worth banning is a book worth reading ---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org)
Re: listen to music in surrround sound
This is a good point, however, I was in a band in high school, and there was nothing like being in the middle of that experience. - Original Message - From: Laurence Taylor g7...@btopenworld.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:31 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound I love surround for films where you've got things happening all around you (the battle scenes in Star Wars for example), but for music I find it a bit pointless; I don't go to a concert and sit on the stage. For general listening I stick with stereo. On the other hand, listen in mono and it sounds good where-ever you are in the room! :-) -- rgds LAurence ...A book worth banning is a book worth reading ---Taglines by Tagzilla (tagzilla.mozdev.org)
RE: listen to music in surrround sound
Matt, that is exactally what some of the Dolby, Logic and Pro Logic digital signal processing are supposed to simulate; and for the most part they do a pretty lousy job. Frank -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:57 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound Hi, Folks. Another point: not all music is formatted to be actually surround-sound playable. For example, you may have a surround-sound system, but the CD may not have all the surround-sound channels. Matthew Chao At 09:17 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone
Re: listen to music in surrround sound
But to me, it sounds better, especially with the Prologic 2.0. - Original Message - From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:06 PM Subject: RE: listen to music in surrround sound Matt, that is exactally what some of the Dolby, Logic and Pro Logic digital signal processing are supposed to simulate; and for the most part they do a pretty lousy job. Frank -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:57 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound Hi, Folks. Another point: not all music is formatted to be actually surround-sound playable. For example, you may have a surround-sound system, but the CD may not have all the surround-sound channels. Matthew Chao At 09:17 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan
listen to music in surrround sound
Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: listen to music in surrround sound
The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on the Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either recorded in stereo or Mono. On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax
Re: listen to music in surrround sound
Hi, Folks. Another point: not all music is formatted to be actually surround-sound playable. For example, you may have a surround-sound system, but the CD may not have all the surround-sound channels. Matthew Chao At 09:17 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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In which case either 2 things will happen depending on how the user has set things up. Either the CD player will play through left and right channels - stereo - or it will be played using a simulated surround-sound mode using the Digital Signal Processor of the surround sound unit, in other words if your system is going to be used for music then a Surround sound system is most likely not your style. On 26 May 2014, at 11:56 pm, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, Folks. Another point: not all music is formatted to be actually surround-sound playable. For example, you may have a surround-sound system, but the CD may not have all the surround-sound channels. Matthew Chao At 09:17 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
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I agree. - Original Message - From: brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:17 AM Subject: listen to music in surrround sound Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on the Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either recorded in stereo or Mono. On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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And who has said that it wasn't? On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on the Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either recorded in stereo or Mono. On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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This is perhaps so, but my test with the Bose Lifestyle V35 showed it split the music quite well despite not having the real 5.1 data. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:57 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound Hi, Folks. Another point: not all music is formatted to be actually surround-sound playable. For example, you may have a surround-sound system, but the CD may not have all the surround-sound channels. Matthew Chao At 09:17 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005
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I'm sure nobody. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound And who has said that it wasn't? On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on the Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either recorded in stereo or Mono. On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79
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Especially if you have a real good system. I would use the Lifestyle V35 if I had one. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian sackrider Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:17 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: listen to music in surrround sound Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much in to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, but my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his class-room. So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this equipment, what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as good competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, but am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. Mary ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
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Ah, I see where you're coming from. Well an audiophile has never - to my knowledge at any rate - said there wasn't or isn't a choice, the only point most make is that Surround-Sound gear is not really the type of stuff for the lovers of good music and as I said earlier, the consumer can buy something that sounds very good in stereo for the price of a cheap surround-sound system so I take the point and the choice is yours. On 27 May 2014, at 1:18 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I'm sure nobody. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound And who has said that it wasn't? On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on the Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either recorded in stereo or Mono. On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs $300. I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all
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Well the first system was a Pioneer. Then when digital came out, I decided on an Onkyo. It seems like systems I've cost around $300, U.S. for these. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:53 PM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound Ah, I see where you're coming from. Well an audiophile has never - to my knowledge at any rate - said there wasn't or isn't a choice, the only point most make is that Surround-Sound gear is not really the type of stuff for the lovers of good music and as I said earlier, the consumer can buy something that sounds very good in stereo for the price of a cheap surround-sound system so I take the point and the choice is yours. On 27 May 2014, at 1:18 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I'm sure nobody. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound And who has said that it wasn't? On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on the Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either recorded in stereo or Mono. On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote: Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the acoostic effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo speakers iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to listening to music in surroundsound. On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and speakers. In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality. Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like graphic equalizers. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People make fun of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, and hell, I've even seen death threats. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose system or product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say their products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the case. The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to deal with, or it is here at any rate. I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own home, there was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, they made arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund of the purchase price, no questions asked. I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old and delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions asked, no hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote: I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's worth it. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25