Re: prophet
I would imagine the $10,000 you end up spending on such an expensive system is for a whole setup of computers, software, likely sound cards and satellite control equipment. I suppose for a commercial station the price isn't the worst if it includes all it takes to put automation on but could be steep if that is only the program without all the hardware that goes with it. At least it is good that it could be done for any price at all without hiring coders. - Original Message - From: "Steve Matzura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 5:34 AM Subject: Re: prophet > Tune Tracker sounds interesting, let us know what you learn of it. > > Do you know WireReady is supposedly fully accessible because the > author has a blind relative (possibly child) who wanted to get into > radio, so he made it work for this person? The only problem is the > cost. About ten grand, as I remember. > > On the more reasonably-priced end of the scale, have you not thought > about or explored the possibilities of Station Playlist? Lots of both > blind and sighted people use it for their stations and streams. It > has a facility it calls Voice Tracking which is the equivalent of > talking on the ramps, but it's all pre-timed for you. You can make > recordings for songs, for artists, or for categories and the software > will play one randomly when you put in the appropriate code ihn the > playlist generation software. Quite clever, actually. Does time > announcements on demand (of course, you have to record them yourself > or buy theirs), but on the whole, it's a very nice system and seems to > do the job for lots of folks. > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: prophet
Tune Tracker sounds interesting, let us know what you learn of it. Do you know WireReady is supposedly fully accessible because the author has a blind relative (possibly child) who wanted to get into radio, so he made it work for this person? The only problem is the cost. About ten grand, as I remember. On the more reasonably-priced end of the scale, have you not thought about or explored the possibilities of Station Playlist? Lots of both blind and sighted people use it for their stations and streams. It has a facility it calls Voice Tracking which is the equivalent of talking on the ramps, but it's all pre-timed for you. You can make recordings for songs, for artists, or for categories and the software will play one randomly when you put in the appropriate code ihn the playlist generation software. Quite clever, actually. Does time announcements on demand (of course, you have to record them yourself or buy theirs), but on the whole, it's a very nice system and seems to do the job for lots of folks. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Re[2]: prophet
Oh, I see. So it only looks in windows like you have lots of devices, but it could really end up being on maybe 1 or 2 cards? I assume each track has to be set to a different device so you get what is coming from each one routed the way you want it. I suppose jfw would fit into the idea well if FS gave us another way of switching cards that actually works but external synths are probably the best if editing the ini file produces bad results. - Original Message - From: "Patrick Perdue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: Re[2]: prophet > Hello Brent, > > On Thursday, March 2, 2006, 12:44:37 AM, you bellowed the following: >> I imagine one card per >> channel in and out of the board. > > Also, a lot of high-end sound cards such as the Delta 44/66/1010/410, > etc. have multiple I/O options. > With the Delta 44, for example, you have two sets of four quarter inch > jacks -- four in and four out, all mono. > Windows recognizes these as two separate stereo devices. Anything that > supports asio will allow you to use each of these ins and outs > discretely. If you're working in a multi-track environment, you could, > for example, have a direct output from a mic preamp, a guitar, and a > stereo pair from a keyboard or anything else going to separate tracks > for later remixing or whatever you want to do with it. > So, in a situation like this, having loads of sound cards isn't > necessary if you've got a nice enough one with plenty of routing > posibilities. > > -- > Good Thursday, > -- > Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) > KE4DYI > Greensboro, NC > website: http://www.pdaudio.net > home: +1(828)221-2971 > Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 > e-mail and .net messenger: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > skype: Borris > > For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and > modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a > blank message to: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: prophet
Hello Brent, On Thursday, March 2, 2006, 12:44:37 AM, you bellowed the following: > I imagine one card per > channel in and out of the board. Also, a lot of high-end sound cards such as the Delta 44/66/1010/410, etc. have multiple I/O options. With the Delta 44, for example, you have two sets of four quarter inch jacks -- four in and four out, all mono. Windows recognizes these as two separate stereo devices. Anything that supports asio will allow you to use each of these ins and outs discretely. If you're working in a multi-track environment, you could, for example, have a direct output from a mic preamp, a guitar, and a stereo pair from a keyboard or anything else going to separate tracks for later remixing or whatever you want to do with it. So, in a situation like this, having loads of sound cards isn't necessary if you've got a nice enough one with plenty of routing posibilities. -- Good Thursday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile phone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: prophet
interestingly enough the station i currently work at my school uses what i a hybrid system of editing material called a Shortcut. Its a unit with function buttons and a wheel to controle your space in the file. We have it hooked in and out to a board, and record to it edit then outpout to minidisc when doing productions or recording. its a pretty nice system once you memorize the key layout, with minimal need for screen support, though it does help. The stations looking to go all digital in the next 2 years but on air work is still done with cds and minidiscs. tj - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:22 AM Subject: Re: prophet > Well I am working on it. Hopefully I will be able to come up with some > answers soon. The only work around that I can think of is to make use of > two > computers. One computer for the production and programming elements using > screen reading software. Once you have recorded your program, you can then > send the file to your host computer that would go directly to air. The > work > around that we would be looking for would be similar to that of call > centers > in that only the operator would hear the prompts from the screen reader. > In > this case I can only assume that they must be using multi channel sound > cards and somehow splitting the different audio feeds. . > I find that what is lacking with radio automation software is the amount > of > information on the screen. Some software programs are so detailed that > they > would require a lot of information from a screen reader program, and there > are other programs that simply do not prvide enough information for the > operator. Unfortunately at this point in time it is basically a visual > thing. I do have some functional vision, but would like to have some audio > prompts simply as a guide as there are simply too many functions that can > be > overlooked with out being prompted. The tune tracker software package was > designed with a broadcaster in mind, as it has functioning buttons that > resemble buttons on a cart machine, tape player or CD player. It even has > VU > meters that look like the real thing. You would be hard pressed to find a > radio station these days that didn't operate with out radio automation > software. People who are blind or visually impaired are simply put at a > disadvantage. I have worked with Dallet radio automation software and > found > it to be very user friendly. I used it on a computer with a large monitor > along with Zoomtext. I have no idea how it would react with a screen > reader. > All that I can say is that electronic editing is much better than using a > razor blade and editing tape. Don't want to go back to those days ever > again. > - Original Message - > From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: prophet > > >> I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they > don't >> matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song > would >> start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I see >> the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder how >> hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also >> operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would get > the >> screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears > it? >> I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so > have >> windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are >> multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address >> individually, > I >> wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another >> of >> the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it. >> >> I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be > nice >> to see something that is workable. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM >> Subject: Re: prophet >> >> >> > Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are >> > doing >> > the >> > back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I >> > have >> > looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar > with >> > the intro of a particular son
Re: prophet
I agree, to me that's the only way. Not to mention the big problem of doing other things while your doing production. Things seem to work better with external speech. - Original Message - From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: Re: prophet > The best way to handle speech output in broadcast automation or a > production > situation is with an external hardware synthesizer. That's what I do at > my > shop. > > Dave > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:22 AM > Subject: Re: prophet > > >> Well I am working on it. Hopefully I will be able to come up with some >> answers soon. The only work around that I can think of is to make use of > two >> computers. One computer for the production and programming elements using >> screen reading software. Once you have recorded your program, you can >> then >> send the file to your host computer that would go directly to air. The > work >> around that we would be looking for would be similar to that of call > centers >> in that only the operator would hear the prompts from the screen reader. > In >> this case I can only assume that they must be using multi channel sound >> cards and somehow splitting the different audio feeds. . >> I find that what is lacking with radio automation software is the amount > of >> information on the screen. Some software programs are so detailed that > they >> would require a lot of information from a screen reader program, and >> there >> are other programs that simply do not prvide enough information for the >> operator. Unfortunately at this point in time it is basically a visual >> thing. I do have some functional vision, but would like to have some >> audio >> prompts simply as a guide as there are simply too many functions that can > be >> overlooked with out being prompted. The tune tracker software package was >> designed with a broadcaster in mind, as it has functioning buttons that >> resemble buttons on a cart machine, tape player or CD player. It even has > VU >> meters that look like the real thing. You would be hard pressed to find a >> radio station these days that didn't operate with out radio automation >> software. People who are blind or visually impaired are simply put at a >> disadvantage. I have worked with Dallet radio automation software and > found >> it to be very user friendly. I used it on a computer with a large monitor >> along with Zoomtext. I have no idea how it would react with a screen > reader. >> All that I can say is that electronic editing is much better than using a >> razor blade and editing tape. Don't want to go back to those days ever >> again. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:02 PM >> Subject: Re: prophet >> >> >> > I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they >> don't >> > matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song >> would >> > start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I > see >> > the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder >> > how >> > hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also >> > operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would >> > get >> the >> > screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears >> it? >> > I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so >> have >> > windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are >> > multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address > individually, >> I >> > wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another > of >> > the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it. >> > >> > I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be >> nice >> > to see something that is workable. >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM >> > Subject: Re: prophet >> >
Re: prophet
Wow, I never tried editing tape with a blade. I heard after that that tape players got smart and could cut and splice some how. I imagine you can't insert the clippings to recycle. I know that one small station I visited awhile ago used a DOS system then called axs. I believe they had many computers around, doubt many think of doing production and on air on the same system as PCI slots are limited and the on air operation can take several sound cards to record and play things, I imagine one card per channel in and out of the board. - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:22 PM Subject: Re: prophet > Well I am working on it. Hopefully I will be able to come up with some > answers soon. The only work around that I can think of is to make use of > two > computers. One computer for the production and programming elements using > screen reading software. Once you have recorded your program, you can then > send the file to your host computer that would go directly to air. The > work > around that we would be looking for would be similar to that of call > centers > in that only the operator would hear the prompts from the screen reader. > In > this case I can only assume that they must be using multi channel sound > cards and somehow splitting the different audio feeds. . > I find that what is lacking with radio automation software is the amount > of > information on the screen. Some software programs are so detailed that > they > would require a lot of information from a screen reader program, and there > are other programs that simply do not prvide enough information for the > operator. Unfortunately at this point in time it is basically a visual > thing. I do have some functional vision, but would like to have some audio > prompts simply as a guide as there are simply too many functions that can > be > overlooked with out being prompted. The tune tracker software package was > designed with a broadcaster in mind, as it has functioning buttons that > resemble buttons on a cart machine, tape player or CD player. It even has > VU > meters that look like the real thing. You would be hard pressed to find a > radio station these days that didn't operate with out radio automation > software. People who are blind or visually impaired are simply put at a > disadvantage. I have worked with Dallet radio automation software and > found > it to be very user friendly. I used it on a computer with a large monitor > along with Zoomtext. I have no idea how it would react with a screen > reader. > All that I can say is that electronic editing is much better than using a > razor blade and editing tape. Don't want to go back to those days ever > again. > - Original Message - > From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: prophet > > >> I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they > don't >> matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song > would >> start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I see >> the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder how >> hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also >> operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would get > the >> screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears > it? >> I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so > have >> windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are >> multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address >> individually, > I >> wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another >> of >> the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it. >> >> I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be > nice >> to see something that is workable. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM >> Subject: Re: prophet >> >> >> > Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are >> > doing >> > the >> > back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I >> > have >> > looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar > with >> > the intro of a particular song, ramp up time shouldn't
Re: prophet
The best way to handle speech output in broadcast automation or a production situation is with an external hardware synthesizer. That's what I do at my shop. Dave - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:22 AM Subject: Re: prophet > Well I am working on it. Hopefully I will be able to come up with some > answers soon. The only work around that I can think of is to make use of two > computers. One computer for the production and programming elements using > screen reading software. Once you have recorded your program, you can then > send the file to your host computer that would go directly to air. The work > around that we would be looking for would be similar to that of call centers > in that only the operator would hear the prompts from the screen reader. In > this case I can only assume that they must be using multi channel sound > cards and somehow splitting the different audio feeds. . > I find that what is lacking with radio automation software is the amount of > information on the screen. Some software programs are so detailed that they > would require a lot of information from a screen reader program, and there > are other programs that simply do not prvide enough information for the > operator. Unfortunately at this point in time it is basically a visual > thing. I do have some functional vision, but would like to have some audio > prompts simply as a guide as there are simply too many functions that can be > overlooked with out being prompted. The tune tracker software package was > designed with a broadcaster in mind, as it has functioning buttons that > resemble buttons on a cart machine, tape player or CD player. It even has VU > meters that look like the real thing. You would be hard pressed to find a > radio station these days that didn't operate with out radio automation > software. People who are blind or visually impaired are simply put at a > disadvantage. I have worked with Dallet radio automation software and found > it to be very user friendly. I used it on a computer with a large monitor > along with Zoomtext. I have no idea how it would react with a screen reader. > All that I can say is that electronic editing is much better than using a > razor blade and editing tape. Don't want to go back to those days ever > again. > - Original Message - > From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:02 PM > Subject: Re: prophet > > > > I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they > don't > > matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song > would > > start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I see > > the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder how > > hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also > > operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would get > the > > screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears > it? > > I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so > have > > windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are > > multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address individually, > I > > wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another of > > the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it. > > > > I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be > nice > > to see something that is workable. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM > > Subject: Re: prophet > > > > > > > Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are doing > > > the > > > back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I have > > > looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar > with > > > the intro of a particular song, ramp up time shouldn't be abig issue. I > > > have > > > yet to find a fully accessible music scheduler that will tell you > > > everything > > > that is going on on the screen from song placement in the lineup to song > > > title and artist. Believe me I have looked at a number of radio > automation > > > software packages, and there simply isn't a package out there that I > could > > > find that will
Re: prophet
Well I am working on it. Hopefully I will be able to come up with some answers soon. The only work around that I can think of is to make use of two computers. One computer for the production and programming elements using screen reading software. Once you have recorded your program, you can then send the file to your host computer that would go directly to air. The work around that we would be looking for would be similar to that of call centers in that only the operator would hear the prompts from the screen reader. In this case I can only assume that they must be using multi channel sound cards and somehow splitting the different audio feeds. . I find that what is lacking with radio automation software is the amount of information on the screen. Some software programs are so detailed that they would require a lot of information from a screen reader program, and there are other programs that simply do not prvide enough information for the operator. Unfortunately at this point in time it is basically a visual thing. I do have some functional vision, but would like to have some audio prompts simply as a guide as there are simply too many functions that can be overlooked with out being prompted. The tune tracker software package was designed with a broadcaster in mind, as it has functioning buttons that resemble buttons on a cart machine, tape player or CD player. It even has VU meters that look like the real thing. You would be hard pressed to find a radio station these days that didn't operate with out radio automation software. People who are blind or visually impaired are simply put at a disadvantage. I have worked with Dallet radio automation software and found it to be very user friendly. I used it on a computer with a large monitor along with Zoomtext. I have no idea how it would react with a screen reader. All that I can say is that electronic editing is much better than using a razor blade and editing tape. Don't want to go back to those days ever again. - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: Re: prophet > I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they don't > matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song would > start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I see > the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder how > hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also > operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would get the > screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears it? > I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so have > windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are > multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address individually, I > wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another of > the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it. > > I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be nice > to see something that is workable. > - Original Message - > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: prophet > > > > Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are doing > > the > > back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I have > > looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar with > > the intro of a particular song, ramp up time shouldn't be abig issue. I > > have > > yet to find a fully accessible music scheduler that will tell you > > everything > > that is going on on the screen from song placement in the lineup to song > > title and artist. Believe me I have looked at a number of radio automation > > software packages, and there simply isn't a package out there that I could > > find that will meet all of our needs. As I see it a screen reader would > > have > > to be separated and put onto a cue channel, so that the speech would not > > go > > on the air, but the operator would have full control of all of the > > functions > > and would know what is going on at all times. Unfortunately many of the > > software packages that are being developed today use a touch screen system > > for live on air presentation. If you want the system to go into automation > > mode you simply touch an icon on the screen and the switchover > > automatically > > takes place. There is a software package called Tune Tracker that I am > > looking into. It comes with preprogrammed time checks,
Re: prophet
I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they don't matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song would start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I see the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder how hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would get the screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears it? I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so have windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address individually, I wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another of the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it. I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be nice to see something that is workable. - Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: Re: prophet > Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are doing > the > back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I have > looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar with > the intro of a particular song, ramp up time shouldn't be abig issue. I > have > yet to find a fully accessible music scheduler that will tell you > everything > that is going on on the screen from song placement in the lineup to song > title and artist. Believe me I have looked at a number of radio automation > software packages, and there simply isn't a package out there that I could > find that will meet all of our needs. As I see it a screen reader would > have > to be separated and put onto a cue channel, so that the speech would not > go > on the air, but the operator would have full control of all of the > functions > and would know what is going on at all times. Unfortunately many of the > software packages that are being developed today use a touch screen system > for live on air presentation. If you want the system to go into automation > mode you simply touch an icon on the screen and the switchover > automatically > takes place. There is a software package called Tune Tracker that I am > looking into. It comes with preprogrammed time checks, current > temperature, > ramp up and ramp down times etc. I am not exactly sure how user friendly > it > is going to be for blind or visually impaired people, although the > developer > of this particular software package would probably welcome the challenge > of > coming up with a radio automation system that is accessible with the use > of > a screen reader. . > system. > - Original Message - > From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:43 PM > Subject: Re: prophet > > >> I wonder if the new Nextgen stuff I hear about is accessible? I heard of > one >> recommended on a streaming board that Prophet makes called Nextgen 101. I >> guess the deal with it is that it is inexpensive because you could make >> it >> simple or get into more complex things with it. Accessible voice tracking >> would be cool with the ability to hear the endings of songs to know where > to >> start talking. The easy solution to that is to work at a station that >> promises never to talk over anything as lining it up wouldn't be an issue >> then. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:23 PM >> Subject: Re: prophet >> >> >> > the station at my college uses it but i have not yet gotten to see it >> > >> > tj >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 AM >> > Subject: RE: prophet >> > >> > >> >> Bottom line, it's awful. >> >> Unless someone has used the latest software, the original version was >> >> awful. >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM >> >> To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org >> >> Subject: prophet >> >> >> >> Hi, &g
Re: prophet
Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are doing the back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I have looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar with the intro of a particular song, ramp up time shouldn't be abig issue. I have yet to find a fully accessible music scheduler that will tell you everything that is going on on the screen from song placement in the lineup to song title and artist. Believe me I have looked at a number of radio automation software packages, and there simply isn't a package out there that I could find that will meet all of our needs. As I see it a screen reader would have to be separated and put onto a cue channel, so that the speech would not go on the air, but the operator would have full control of all of the functions and would know what is going on at all times. Unfortunately many of the software packages that are being developed today use a touch screen system for live on air presentation. If you want the system to go into automation mode you simply touch an icon on the screen and the switchover automatically takes place. There is a software package called Tune Tracker that I am looking into. It comes with preprogrammed time checks, current temperature, ramp up and ramp down times etc. I am not exactly sure how user friendly it is going to be for blind or visually impaired people, although the developer of this particular software package would probably welcome the challenge of coming up with a radio automation system that is accessible with the use of a screen reader. . system. - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: Re: prophet > I wonder if the new Nextgen stuff I hear about is accessible? I heard of one > recommended on a streaming board that Prophet makes called Nextgen 101. I > guess the deal with it is that it is inexpensive because you could make it > simple or get into more complex things with it. Accessible voice tracking > would be cool with the ability to hear the endings of songs to know where to > start talking. The easy solution to that is to work at a station that > promises never to talk over anything as lining it up wouldn't be an issue > then. > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: prophet > > > > the station at my college uses it but i have not yet gotten to see it > > > > tj > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" > > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 AM > > Subject: RE: prophet > > > > > >> Bottom line, it's awful. > >> Unless someone has used the latest software, the original version was > >> awful. > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM > >> To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org > >> Subject: prophet > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for > >> running a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and > >> wondered > >> if it is accessible at all. > >> Any information would be greatly appreciated. > >> Betsy > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >> http://www.pc-audio.org > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > >> offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >> http://www.pc-audio.org > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > >> offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > >> > > > > > > _
Re: prophet
I heard that Cartworks had a VI add on back when. I was looking for an audio demo of the speech in action and discovered Pristeen Systems bought them and Rapid Fire is the big thing. - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: RE: prophet >A lot of these big guys built their automation systems without speech in > mind. > It's a sad thing, but what ya gonna do.\ > > -Original Message- > From: Brent Harding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:39 PM > To: PC audio discussion list. > Subject: Re: prophet > > I always wondered what radio automation works with speech that one would > be > likely to find out there? I know Otsjuke and station playlist studio > exist, > but they're not really suited to more than home users for little netcasts. > SPL will do voice tracking, but I heard you don't get the song snippets > that > something like Prophet is more suited to. > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:35 AM > Subject: prophet > > >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for >> running >> a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and wondered if it >> is >> accessible at all. >> Any information would be greatly appreciated. >> Betsy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we >> offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com >> > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: prophet
I wonder if the new Nextgen stuff I hear about is accessible? I heard of one recommended on a streaming board that Prophet makes called Nextgen 101. I guess the deal with it is that it is inexpensive because you could make it simple or get into more complex things with it. Accessible voice tracking would be cool with the ability to hear the endings of songs to know where to start talking. The easy solution to that is to work at a station that promises never to talk over anything as lining it up wouldn't be an issue then. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: prophet > the station at my college uses it but i have not yet gotten to see it > > tj > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 AM > Subject: RE: prophet > > >> Bottom line, it's awful. >> Unless someone has used the latest software, the original version was >> awful. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM >> To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org >> Subject: prophet >> >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for >> running a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and >> wondered >> if it is accessible at all. >> Any information would be greatly appreciated. >> Betsy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we >> offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we >> offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com >> > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: prophet
A lot of these big guys built their automation systems without speech in mind. It's a sad thing, but what ya gonna do.\ -Original Message- From: Brent Harding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:39 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: prophet I always wondered what radio automation works with speech that one would be likely to find out there? I know Otsjuke and station playlist studio exist, but they're not really suited to more than home users for little netcasts. SPL will do voice tracking, but I heard you don't get the song snippets that something like Prophet is more suited to. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:35 AM Subject: prophet > Hi, > > Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for > running > a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and wondered if it > is > accessible at all. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > Betsy > > > > > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: prophet
I always wondered what radio automation works with speech that one would be likely to find out there? I know Otsjuke and station playlist studio exist, but they're not really suited to more than home users for little netcasts. SPL will do voice tracking, but I heard you don't get the song snippets that something like Prophet is more suited to. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:35 AM Subject: prophet > Hi, > > Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for > running > a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and wondered if it > is > accessible at all. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > Betsy > > > > > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: prophet
the station at my college uses it but i have not yet gotten to see it tj - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: RE: prophet > Bottom line, it's awful. > Unless someone has used the latest software, the original version was > awful. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM > To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org > Subject: prophet > > Hi, > > Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for > running a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and wondered > if it is accessible at all. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > Betsy > > > > > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > > > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: prophet
Bottom line, it's awful. Unless someone has used the latest software, the original version was awful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: prophet Hi, Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for running a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and wondered if it is accessible at all. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Betsy ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
prophet
Hi, Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software for running a radio station? I may have a chance to work with it and wondered if it is accessible at all. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Betsy ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
