RE: removing protection
It looks like the discussion really got heated up in the 70's when the US copyright law was amended and Sony came out with the Betamax. This ultimately ended up in the Sony versus Universal City Studios (The Betamax case) which was settled in 1984. This is the decision that allows the copying of material for the purpose of time shifting and personal use. Prior to that, the copying of copyrighted material was restricted to educational use and critical review. Interestingly enough, the Betamax decision was a close one (5 to 4) that could have gone either way. I got most of this information from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios ,_Inc. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: removing protection I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated with relatively few people. Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five inch reels. Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. I borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. Of course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose. Quite illegal, I would think. I still have about 125 of those reels. And then there were the folks who would purchase an album, record it to tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund. I never did that one. That wasn't fair to anyone. But it's so much nicer now. I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files. It's a long job. I'm hoping I can find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl of music and old radio when I'm done with them. Howard - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message
Re: removing protection
Do you folks remember that during the Halcyon days of VCR recording, the folks from Hollywood were pressuring the VCR manufacturers to insert a chip in each VCR which could be controlled remotely by the broadcasters. Effectively, this would disable the VCR's recording capabilities when a movie was being broadcast. Don Roberts - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: RE: removing protection It looks like the discussion really got heated up in the 70's when the US copyright law was amended and Sony came out with the Betamax. This ultimately ended up in the Sony versus Universal City Studios (The Betamax case) which was settled in 1984. This is the decision that allows the copying of material for the purpose of time shifting and personal use. Prior to that, the copying of copyrighted material was restricted to educational use and critical review. Interestingly enough, the Betamax decision was a close one (5 to 4) that could have gone either way. I got most of this information from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios ,_Inc. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:45 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: removing protection I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated with relatively few people. Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five inch reels. Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. I borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. Of course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose. Quite illegal, I would think. I still have about 125 of those reels. And then there were the folks who would purchase an album, record it to tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund. I never did that one. That wasn't fair to anyone. But it's so much nicer now. I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files. It's a long job. I'm hoping I can find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl of music and old radio when I'm done with them. Howard - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June
removing protection
I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hi John and list: Well..I thought I had done something like you said (is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure where it's putting the file! But will read through these instructions..and give it another shot! But right now..I'm just not understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the .MP3 extension? Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this very well! Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, Highlight the file by having the curser pointing at it. Go in to your file menu and scroll down to Switch. Tab over to where it says file options or something rather like that. Hit the space bar. You will see a list of file types. If the default file isn't .mp3, then scroll up or down until you get to that one. It also gives you the option to set the bit rate and stereo joint stereo or force stereo. After you have done this, then tab over to ok, hit the space bar. then tab over to the convert button and hit the space bar again. At this point, Switch will start converting the file to .mp3. But now that Switch is sat to convert files to .mp3, you can follow the steps above. But only, you will hit the F3 key to start Switch to converting files to .mp3. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hello list: Hopefully I don't sound too ignorant..but I've downloaded Switch..but so far..have no idea as to how it works! So if some of you could get me pointed in the right direction..would be much appreciated! For instance..I have a couple of these files that I've mentioned earlier that I need to convert to MP3s; so how is this done? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: removing protection
aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hi John and list: Well..I thought I had done something like you said (is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure where it's putting the file! But will read through these instructions..and give it another shot! But right now..I'm just not understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the .MP3 extension? Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this very well! Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, Highlight the file by having the curser pointing at it. Go in to your file menu and scroll down to Switch. Tab over to where it says file options or something rather like that. Hit the space bar. You will see a list of file types. If the default file isn't .mp3, then scroll up or down until you get to that one. It also gives you the option to set the bit rate and stereo joint stereo or force stereo. After you have done this, then tab over to ok, hit the space bar. then tab over to the convert button and hit the space bar again. At this point, Switch will start converting the file to .mp3. But now that Switch is sat to convert files to .mp3, you can follow the steps above. But only, you will hit the F3 key to start Switch to converting files to .mp3. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hello list: Hopefully I don't sound too ignorant..but I've downloaded Switch..but so far..have no idea as to how it works! So if some of you could get me pointed in the right direction..would be much appreciated! For instance..I have a couple of these files that I've mentioned earlier that I need to convert to MP3s; so how is this done? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr
Re: removing protection
I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hi John and list: Well..I thought I had done something like you said (is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure where it's putting the file! But will read through these instructions..and give it another shot! But right now..I'm just not understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the .MP3 extension? Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this very well! Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, Highlight the file by having the curser pointing at it. Go in to your file menu and scroll down to Switch. Tab over to where it says file options or something rather like that. Hit the space bar. You will see a list of file types. If the default file isn't .mp3, then scroll up or down until you get to that one. It also gives you the option to set the bit rate and stereo joint stereo or force stereo. After you have done this, then tab over to ok, hit the space bar. then tab over to the convert button and hit the space bar again. At this point, Switch will start converting the file to .mp3. But now that Switch is sat to convert files to .mp3, you can follow the steps above. But only, you will hit the F3 key to start Switch to converting files to .mp3. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hello list: Hopefully I don't sound too ignorant..but I've downloaded Switch..but so far..have no idea as to how it works! So if some of you could get me pointed in the right direction..would be much appreciated! For instance..I have a couple of these files that I've mentioned earlier that I need to convert to MP3s; so how is this done? Tom Kaufman
Re: removing protection
I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated with relatively few people. Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five inch reels. Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. I borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. Of course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose. Quite illegal, I would think. I still have about 125 of those reels. And then there were the folks who would purchase an album, record it to tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund. I never did that one. That wasn't fair to anyone. But it's so much nicer now. I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files. It's a long job. I'm hoping I can find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl of music and old radio when I'm done with them. Howard - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hi John and list: Well..I thought I had done something like you said (is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure where it's putting the file! But will read through these instructions..and give it another shot! But right now..I'm just not understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the .MP3 extension? Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this very well! Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, Highlight the file by having the curser pointing at it. Go in to your file menu and scroll down to Switch. Tab over to where it says file options or something rather like
Re: removing protection
I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes I collect them. please send them my way - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated with relatively few people. Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five inch reels. Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. I borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. Of course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose. Quite illegal, I would think. I still have about 125 of those reels. And then there were the folks who would purchase an album, record it to tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund. I never did that one. That wasn't fair to anyone. But it's so much nicer now. I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files. It's a long job. I'm hoping I can find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl of music and old radio when I'm done with them. Howard - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hi John and list: Well..I thought I had done something like you said (is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure where it's putting the file! But will read through these instructions..and give it another shot! But right now..I'm just not understanding..will my file have the same name..only with the .MP3 extension? Please forgive me if I'm just not understanding all of this very well! Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent
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i would also be interested in the material, also let me know when you are done i would also like some. - Original Message - From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes I collect them. please send them my way - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated with relatively few people. Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five inch reels. Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. I borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. Of course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose. Quite illegal, I would think. I still have about 125 of those reels. And then there were the folks who would purchase an album, record it to tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund. I never did that one. That wasn't fair to anyone. But it's so much nicer now. I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files. It's a long job. I'm hoping I can find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl of music and old radio when I'm done with them. Howard - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hi John and list: Well..I thought I had done something like you said (is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure where it's putting the file! But will read through these instructions
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Here Here, likewise. I am especially keen on 16-inch radio transcription discs. Jamie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of hank smith Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: removing protection I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes I collect them. please send them my way - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated with relatively few people. Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five inch reels. Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. I borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. Of course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose. Quite illegal, I would think. I still have about 125 of those reels. And then there were the folks who would purchase an album, record it to tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund. I never did that one. That wasn't fair to anyone. But it's so much nicer now. I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files. It's a long job. I'm hoping I can find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl of music and old radio when I'm done with them. Howard - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hi John and list: Well..I thought I had done something like you said (is the file actually supposed to play?)..anyhow..I cannot figure where it's putting the file! But will read
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I don't have any of those (transcription discs); I don't even have any 78's left. - Original Message - From: Jamie Kelly otrja...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:01 PM Subject: RE: removing protection Here Here, likewise. I am especially keen on 16-inch radio transcription discs. Jamie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of hank smith Sent: Saturday, 26 June 2010 10:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: removing protection I'll take all the reels vinyl and tapes I collect them. please send them my way - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I don't remember this kind of thing ever being discussed back in those days. But in those days, we didn't have the internet or e-mail and we communicated with relatively few people. Back in those days, I used to buy bulk open reel tape and split it into five inch reels. Enough for one album per reel; probably about 600 feet. I borrowed albums from anyone who would lend and record one to a reel. Of course, I would lend my albums out for the same purpose. Quite illegal, I would think. I still have about 125 of those reels. And then there were the folks who would purchase an album, record it to tape (open reel or cassette) then send it back for a refund. I never did that one. That wasn't fair to anyone. But it's so much nicer now. I have lots of open reels and cassettes, and vinyl that I need to put into mp3 files. It's a long job. I'm hoping I can find someone who wants all those reels, cassettes, and vinyl of music and old radio when I'm done with them. Howard - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: removing protection I agree RIAA's measures have gotten Draconian. I also think it's wrong that we have to use Goldwave or Sound Taxi to exercise our fair use rights to the music we've purchased or acquired legally. However, almost as long as cassette tapes have been around, there have been prohibitions against copying and distributing the music we've purchased. Not sure if this was true in the reel to reel days prior to cassettes though. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com On 6/25/2010 3:35 PM, hank smith wrote: aggreed the riaa has gotten conpletly out of hand - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:12 AM Subject: removing protection I once bought a Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton track on the Internet. It had some protection scheme on it so I couldn't even move it to a different computer to play it. So, I recorded it using Total Recorder while I was playing it with Winamp. Total Recorder created a .wav file. So I used GoldWave to convert the .wav to a .mp3. Now I can play it on anything I own that plays mp3 files. Back in another time, when I was collecting 45's, no one told me I couldn't play my records on any machine I chose; nor give them away; nor record them with my open reel machine. Howard - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Another ghing. Can Switch remove drm restrictions from wma files? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 25 June 2010 06:53 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? Hey John: Thanks for the instructions..I actually _did_ find that file (I just wasn't sure where to look)..now here's another one for ya: let's say you want to put a file that it's converted into a particular place; how is this done? Tom Kaufman - Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded Switch..Now What? High Tom, When you brought up Switch, When you tab over, you should have saw something that says, output folder combo box: my documents, 1 of 5, alt plus I. And as for the inner workings of the file, if you tab over to that area, it will say, encoder options. Right there is where the stereo joint stereo and force stereo options are. Also, tabbing over just once more will get you to the bit rate settings. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Have Downloaded
