Re: [pca] Patch 147440-25 issue

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Paul

Am 17.10.2012 21:01, schrieb Culver, Michael:

Recently installed 147440-25 on a t5120 which rendered it unbootable.
After no help from Oracle on the matter I removed the patch and
regained access to the system.  Oracle's response is that because I
am not patching with the patch cluster the patches are being
installed in the wrong order.


That's nonsense, IMO. The order is determined by patch requirements, and 
patchadd (and therefore PCA) would refuse to install a patch unless its 
requirements are met.


I haven't heard about any problems with 147440-25 yet, but it's pretty 
new. But if there is a problem with it rendering systems unbootable, 
this surely will be noticed by others as well. Just to be sure: The 
patch README has a note about a minimum firmware revision, but that's 
pretty old and you probably checked that already.


Martin.



Re: [pca] Patch 147440-25 issue

2012-10-18 Thread Ben Taylor
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Culver, Michael mrcul...@aug.edu wrote:
 Recently installed 147440-25 on a t5120 which rendered it unbootable.  After
 no help from Oracle on the matter I removed the patch and regained access to
 the system.  Oracle’s response is that because I am not patching with the
 patch cluster the patches are being installed in the wrong order.  Even if I
 ignored the history of 147400 I don’t believe that’s true.  I’ve been using
 PCA for years and haven’t had a problem till now.  Having said all that, is
 there any validity to the idea that the order of patch install may be a
 factor?

Are you running VxVM 6.0?  We ran into a problem several months ago
with VxVM 6.0
root mirrors and one of the kernel patches, that eventually caused the
systems not to boot.
We had to backout the kernel patch.

I was recently notified that the version of VxVM 6.0SP1 has been released which
should alleviate the incompatibility between the kernel patch and VxVM 6.0.

Ben



Re: [pca] Patch 147440-25 issue

2012-10-18 Thread Williamson, Richard T (Todd R Williamson)
Make sure that your firmware is updated.  We found that servers with old 
firmware would not reboot when applying 147440-xx (up to 147440-19).  Once the 
firmware has been upgraded and the server is patched, our unbootable servers 
went away.

From: pca-boun...@lists.univie.ac.at [mailto:pca-boun...@lists.univie.ac.at] On 
Behalf Of Culver, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:01 PM
To: pca@lists.univie.ac.at
Subject: [pca] Patch 147440-25 issue

Recently installed 147440-25 on a t5120 which rendered it unbootable.  After no 
help from Oracle on the matter I removed the patch and regained access to the 
system.  Oracle's response is that because I am not patching with the patch 
cluster the patches are being installed in the wrong order.  Even if I ignored 
the history of 147400 I don't believe that's true.  I've been using PCA for 
years and haven't had a problem till now.  Having said all that, is there any 
validity to the idea that the order of patch install may be a factor?

Mike



Re: [pca] Patch 147440-25 issue

2012-10-18 Thread Culver, Michael
I'm not running VxVM on this system but its good to know about that problem 
since I have few others that are.  You guys are probably right about the 
firmware issue.  Although the system exceeds the minimum firmware requirements 
for the patch, I wouldn't be surprised if that is the problem.  I don't know if 
anyone else is running on t5120's but I have had nothing but problems with 
those systems since we got them.  Worst servers I've ever had to deal with.