Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-16 Thread GLENSTREK

In a message dated david_elmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
OK, how about supporting me now! :) OT I guess, and changed subject) since 
this prob is on a Quicksilver, but could not resist asking you I have a 
partioned IDE drive with X on one and 9 on the other. Had a freeze this morning 
when 
in classic. Could do nothing but turn the machine off (which poor old X seems 
quite unable to handle well, I have had no end of trouble previously re this 
sort of thing). Using Disk Utility, I checked the X partition (the 9 one was 
fine) and it had :Invalid key length  The volume OS X HD needs to be repaired. 
I 
started from a CD with disk utility on and tried to repair the said  
partition but it could not do it and displayed the same message.

[snip]

 

Hi David,

Invalid key length could be serious. Unless a third party disk utility like 
DiskWarrior can fix it the prognosis is beyond my experience. The only time I 
had a key problem in OS X I had to reinitialize. Fortunately I had a good 
backup.

Perhaps you can take the problem to the g-list and someone with much more OS 
X experience than me can offer a solution.  Good luck --glen


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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-15 Thread david_elmo

From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Udbj=F8rg?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X isnt that crazy, in my opinion. But it does take a wee bit of =20
getting used to. It is admittedly very alien compared to 9.xx.  
Having =20=


Mac, has helped me a great deal on the way to being at home in both  
=20
worlds. I can now even give basic support (by SMS=85) to an  
acquintance =20=


who has just gotten a brand new iMac.


OK, how about supporting me now! :) OT I guess, and changed subject)  
since this prob is on a Quicksilver, but could not resist asking you


I have a partioned IDE drive with X on one and 9 on the other. Had a  
freeze this morning when in classic. Could do nothing but turn the  
machine off (which poor old X seems quite unable to handle well, I  
have had no end of trouble previously re this sort of thing). Using  
Disk Utility, I checked the X partition (the 9 one was fine) and it  
had :Invalid key length The volume OS X HD needs to be repaired. I  
started from a CD with disk utility on and tried to repair the said  
partition but it could not do it and displayed the same message.


What to do now? Wipe all and reinstall everything yet again? Buy yet  
more utility software?


When I was using 9, freezes (which were rare for me) did not have  
these disk corruption or file sys problems, at least not ones that  
could not be repaired with disk aid (which auto came up if you had  
not switched the machine off properly).



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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-14 Thread Denny Davis
At 12:58 AM +0100 on 2/14/06, k wittily wrote:


you were asking how to record a sound alert from a sly and the family stone cd
and to use it as an alert in the mac. and you can do that snippet
cutting and converting all inside the
free application SoundApp- well if you are in system up to 9 - try it
and you'll see.

i found the question when sortin old messages

k



On 14/02/2006, at 7:31 AM, PCI PowerMacs wrote:

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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:23:57 +0100
From: k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts



Let's see nowMaybe I can just put the sound directly into the
collection
of alert sounds. No need to record. Do all that in QT and  SoundApp. Now,
where are these alerts kept... no, they don't show up in Sherlock (I
searched for Glass and Logjam and Simple Beep)...

Maybe Charlie is dead right and it is really only for the  microphone...

David Elmo

the alerts are in the system file,
you can convert any file in sound app to system sound
you can also make specifik outcuts importing to soundapp by choosin
the IMPORT TO QUICKTIME option and trim the slider to your likin,
k
(better a year late than never)
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Yes, wow, a year! Can you perhaps include a bit more context on what
was puzzling me or others a year back? So as to better appreciate
your advice.

David Elmo



One can use SoundApp to convert a sound file in many sound formats to a
System Sound, however one can't edit in SoundApp as far as I can tell.

From System 7 to OS 9 the sound format is the same and is called a System 7
sound, for System 6 and earlier I can't recall as it has been too long. :-}
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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-14 Thread david_elmo

From: k [EMAIL PROTECTED]

you were asking how to record a sound alert from a sly and the  
family stone cd

and to use it as an alert in the mac. and you can do that snippet
cutting and converting all inside the
free application SoundApp- well if you are in system up to 9 - try it
and you'll see.

i found the question when sortin old messages

k


thank you so much for this... I now recall. If I ever use 9 again, as  
I constantly threaten,(X being the craziest over the toppest thing I  
have ever seen), I will use this. I will try it anyway to see!




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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-14 Thread Peter Udbjørg
 If I ever use 9 again, as I constantly threaten,(X being the  
craziest over the toppest thing I have ever seen), I will use this.  
I will try it anyway to see!



X isnt that crazy, in my opinion. But it does take a wee bit of  
getting used to. It is admittedly very alien compared to 9.xx. Having  
a dual-bootable (or either 9 or X-bootbale, is more correct, I guess)  
Mac, has helped me a great deal on the way to being at home in both  
worlds. I can now even give basic support (by SMS…) to an acquintance  
who has just gotten a brand new iMac.
As for OS9 sound app, theres SoundEdit, and Mac The Ripper  
(shareware), for making tracks out of long recordings of tapes/LPs  
for ripping to CD.

:o)
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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-13 Thread david_elmo


On 14/02/2006, at 7:31 AM, PCI PowerMacs wrote:


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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:23:57 +0100
From: k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts




Let's see nowMaybe I can just put the sound directly into the  
collection
of alert sounds. No need to record. Do all that in QT and  
SoundApp. Now,

where are these alerts kept... no, they don't show up in Sherlock (I
searched for Glass and Logjam and Simple Beep)...

Maybe Charlie is dead right and it is really only for the  
microphone...


David Elmo


the alerts are in the system file,
you can convert any file in sound app to system sound
you can also make specifik outcuts importing to soundapp by choosin
the IMPORT TO QUICKTIME option and trim the slider to your likin,
k
(better a year late than never)
--


Yes, wow, a year! Can you perhaps include a bit more context on what  
was puzzling me or others a year back? So as to better appreciate  
your advice.


David Elmo



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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-13 Thread k

you were asking how to record a sound alert from a sly and the family stone cd
and to use it as an alert in the mac. and you can do that snippet 
cutting and converting all inside the
free application SoundApp- well if you are in system up to 9 - try it 
and you'll see.


i found the question when sortin old messages

k




On 14/02/2006, at 7:31 AM, PCI PowerMacs wrote:


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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:23:57 +0100
From: k [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts




Let's see nowMaybe I can just put the sound directly into the 
collection

of alert sounds. No need to record. Do all that in QT and  SoundApp. Now,
where are these alerts kept... no, they don't show up in Sherlock (I
searched for Glass and Logjam and Simple Beep)...

Maybe Charlie is dead right and it is really only for the  microphone...

David Elmo


the alerts are in the system file,
you can convert any file in sound app to system sound
you can also make specifik outcuts importing to soundapp by choosin
the IMPORT TO QUICKTIME option and trim the slider to your likin,
k
(better a year late than never)
--


Yes, wow, a year! Can you perhaps include a bit more context on what 
was puzzling me or others a year back? So as to better appreciate 
your advice.


David Elmo



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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2006-02-12 Thread k



Let's see nowMaybe I can just put the sound directly into the collection
of alert sounds. No need to record. Do all that in QT and SoundApp. Now,
where are these alerts kept... no, they don't show up in Sherlock (I
searched for Glass and Logjam and Simple Beep)...

Maybe Charlie is dead right and it is really only for the microphone...

David Elmo


the alerts are in the system file,
you can convert any file in sound app to system sound
you can also make specifik outcuts importing to soundapp by choosin 
the IMPORT TO QUICKTIME option and trim the slider to your likin,

k
(better a year late than never)
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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-19 Thread Andy G

 In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more
 alerts.
 I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?)
 from
 an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD.
 Maybe
 an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as set
 as
 input. I have some au sounds on HD.
 
 It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I have
 a
 7600.
 
 
 The easiest way would be to get a sound recording program, hook up a CD
 player to the Mac's line-in, then hit Record on the computer and Play on
 the CD player.  If you're ripping from a CD, you'll more than likely get
 the whole track, and a four-minute audio alert for Are you sure you
 want to empty the trash? is a serious waste of CPU cycles.
 
 --
 Colin

A little application called SoundEdit should do the job to trim down a large
audio file to a more manageable size. Not having installed or used this for
several years I'm afraid I can't give you any info on where to obtain this
or how to use it. Perhaps one of the listees would put it online somewhere
for you to download??

Andy



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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-19 Thread David Elmo
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 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:01:04 +0800
 From: Charlie Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts
 
 In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more alerts.
 I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?) from
 an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD. Maybe
 an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as set as
 input. I have some au sounds on HD.
 
 It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I have a
 7600.
 
 David Elmo
 
 David,
 
 The control panel seems more suitable for recording from built-in mic in
 all-in-one Macs/Powerbooks or from an Appletalk mic connected to your
 microphone jack at the rear. I've done this a few times by talking/humming
 a tune and recording the same. I may have some Uluru sounds on a CD I
 bought at a gift shop the last time I was at Ayer's Rock.
 
 Charlie


Yes, I understand. Good idea. Perhaps I will have better luck with the
microphone. Let it hear Sly and the Family Stones emanating from my
speakers... Or record some foul language for some alerts...

Because of my settings on other parameters in the sound control panel, it
does say specifically - after hitting the new sound button in the alerts
panel - Recording from: CD (Built in) Hence my question.

David Elmo



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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-19 Thread David Elmo
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 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:30:27 +0100
 From: lovek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts
 
 In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more alerts.
 I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?) from
 an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD. Maybe
 an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as set as
 input. I have some au sounds on HD.
 
 It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I have a
 7600.
 
 David Elmo
 
 sly and the family stone - nooot bad.
 get som other editing tool and save as system sound
 SoundApp and iTunes
 will import from cd,
 quicktime will edit and convert, soundApp will convert aswell to system sound
 (copy - new file -  paste)
 soundstudio, sonicworx, audacity
 are great editors for snippet sounds.
 
 L


Yes, I have SoundApp (great prgm eh?) and I did convert to system sound just
now I read your post. SoundApp first said the track was too big to convert,
so I edited a smaller bit in QT and then got SoundApp to convert this bit to
system sound. Plays fine but I am not sure what I need to set the sound
control panel parameters to record an alert from it. The obvious settings do
not work. For a start, unless I burn this to CD and play a CD and try what i
tried before (but this time in a format it may recognise) it is hard to
jiggle things: playing the sound file from the desktop for example prevents
the sound control panel box (with record) from being active until the
sound file finishes playing by which it is too late...

Let's see nowMaybe I can just put the sound directly into the collection
of alert sounds. No need to record. Do all that in QT and SoundApp. Now,
where are these alerts kept... no, they don't show up in Sherlock (I
searched for Glass and Logjam and Simple Beep)...

Maybe Charlie is dead right and it is really only for the microphone...

David Elmo

   



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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-19 Thread David Elmo
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 Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts
 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:49:14 -0500
 
 Then you need to put them in the system suitcase if you want them to
 show up in the alerts list.
 
 On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:30 PM, lovek wrote:
 
 In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more
 alerts.
 I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?)
 from
 an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD.
 Maybe
 an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as
 set as
 input. I have some au sounds on HD.
 
 David Elmo


Bingo! Benjamin! I was getting close to a workaround but showed my
ignorance... well done! And, again, Charlie is not proved wrong yet about
the record facility.

Thanks all, a combination of everyone's suggestions and I now have Sly and
the Family Stones as an alert. What should it be for, I wonder?

David Elmo



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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-19 Thread Benjamin Berry
The alert sounds are stored in the system file, aka System Folder -  
System. Its what's known as a suitcase, also used to store fonts. I  
think it was originally developed to store large numbers of small files  
without space penalties of files smaller than the block-size of the  
drive.

On Jan 19, 2005, at 6:12 PM, David Elmo wrote:
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:30:27 +0100
From: lovek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts
In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more  
alerts.
I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why  
not?) from
an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD.  
Maybe
an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as  
set as
input. I have some au sounds on HD.

It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I  
have a
7600.

David Elmo
sly and the family stone - nooot bad.
get som other editing tool and save as system sound
SoundApp and iTunes
will import from cd,
quicktime will edit and convert, soundApp will convert aswell to  
system sound
(copy - new file -  paste)
soundstudio, sonicworx, audacity
are great editors for snippet sounds.

L

Yes, I have SoundApp (great prgm eh?) and I did convert to system  
sound just
now I read your post. SoundApp first said the track was too big to  
convert,
so I edited a smaller bit in QT and then got SoundApp to convert this  
bit to
system sound. Plays fine but I am not sure what I need to set the sound
control panel parameters to record an alert from it. The obvious  
settings do
not work. For a start, unless I burn this to CD and play a CD and try  
what i
tried before (but this time in a format it may recognise) it is hard to
jiggle things: playing the sound file from the desktop for example  
prevents
the sound control panel box (with record) from being active until the
sound file finishes playing by which it is too late...

Let's see nowMaybe I can just put the sound directly into the  
collection
of alert sounds. No need to record. Do all that in QT and SoundApp.  
Now,
where are these alerts kept... no, they don't show up in Sherlock (I
searched for Glass and Logjam and Simple Beep)...

Maybe Charlie is dead right and it is really only for the microphone...
David Elmo


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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-19 Thread lovek
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 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:30:27 +0100
 From: lovek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PCI] recording alerts
 In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record 
more alerts.
 I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?) from
 an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD. Maybe
 an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as set as
 input. I have some au sounds on HD.

 It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I have a
 7600.
 David Elmo
 sly and the family stone - nooot bad.
 get som other editing tool and save as system sound
 SoundApp and iTunes
 will import from cd,
 quicktime will edit and convert, soundApp will convert aswell to 
system sound
 (copy - new file -  paste)
 soundstudio, sonicworx, audacity
 are great editors for snippet sounds.

 L

Yes, I have SoundApp (great prgm eh?) and I did convert to system sound just
now I read your post. SoundApp first said the track was too big to convert,
oboy that NEVER happened to me - how big was it ? 500 mb ?
so I edited a smaller bit in QT and then got SoundApp to convert this bit to
system sound. Plays fine but I am not sure what I need to set the sound
control panel parameters to record an alert from it.
when it is in the system sound format IT IS already an alertsignal - 
just click open  the file named  system (inside the systemfolder) and 
drop it there and IT WILL SHOW UP
in the soundalert control panel - OK !?
and you can choose as an alert sound
task is finished here.
ok ?

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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-19 Thread pjspop
My reply follows quote.

On 1/20/05, at 2:08 +0100, lovek wrote:

when it is in the system sound format IT IS already an alertsignal -
just click open  the file named  system (inside the systemfolder) and
drop it there and IT WILL SHOW UP
in the soundalert control panel - OK !?
and you can choose as an alert sound
task is finished here.
ok ?


'cept, IIRC, you have to have everything shut down. I do it with extensions
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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-18 Thread Colin
David Elmo wrote:

In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more alerts.
I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?) from
an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD. Maybe
an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as set as
input. I have some au sounds on HD.

It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I have a
7600.
  

The easiest way would be to get a sound recording program, hook up a CD 
player to the Mac's line-in, then hit Record on the computer and Play on 
the CD player.  If you're ripping from a CD, you'll more than likely get 
the whole track, and a four-minute audio alert for Are you sure you 
want to empty the trash? is a serious waste of CPU cycles.

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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-18 Thread lovek
In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more alerts.
I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?) from
an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD. Maybe
an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as set as
input. I have some au sounds on HD.
It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I have a
7600.
David Elmo
sly and the family stone - nooot bad.
get som other editing tool and save as system sound
SoundApp and iTunes
will import from cd,
quicktime will edit and convert, soundApp will convert aswell to system sound
(copy - new file -  paste)
soundstudio, sonicworx, audacity
are great editors for snippet sounds.
L
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Re: [PCI] recording alerts

2005-01-18 Thread Benjamin Berry
Then you need to put them in the system suitcase if you want them to  
show up in the alerts list.

On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:30 PM, lovek wrote:
In the sound control panel in 9.1 there is a facility to record more  
alerts.
I tried to get a brief snatch of Sly and the Family Stones (Why not?)  
from
an MP3 track I had on CD. Did not work. It asks to record from a CD.  
Maybe
an au type would work? Maybe CD is mentioned because I have this as  
set as
input. I have some au sounds on HD.

It is a little thing I was reminded of by recent posts on sound... I  
have a
7600.

David Elmo
sly and the family stone - nooot bad.
get som other editing tool and save as system sound
SoundApp and iTunes
will import from cd,
quicktime will edit and convert, soundApp will convert aswell to  
system sound
(copy - new file -  paste)
soundstudio, sonicworx, audacity
are great editors for snippet sounds.

L
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