Re: [PD] GEM two channel video key
Thanks! That was it. Drew - Original Message From: Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Drew Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 7:52:49 PM Subject: Re: [PD] GEM two channel video key [pix_snap2tex] isn't the way to go here, because it stores the result already in the the texture buffer. but you still want to process the 'captured' image with pix-objects. that means you want to use a [pix_snap] instead of [pix_snap2tex]. roman On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 17:28 -0700, Drew Browning wrote: > I'm trying to create a 2 channel video key in GEM. I would like to use > a moving geo (circle) as the source of the key and 2 movie clips for > each side of the key (or one clip processed differently). Searching > the archive I've gathered that I need to use pix_snap2tex to get the > geo to be seen as a pix. Then I should be able to use pix_compare, > pix_chroma_key, pix_mask, etc. However, I can't get any of these > objects to work after using pix_snap2tex. Any suggestions would be > appreciated. Below is one of my attempts. > > Drew > > #N canvas 640 2 644 546 10; > #X obj 39 153 t b; > #X msg 39 173 snap; > #X msg 52 205 0 0; > #X obj 31 132 gemhead 10; > #X obj 329 43 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 > ; > #X obj 329 139 translateXYZ; > #X floatatom 395 120 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X obj 329 159 circle; > #X msg 117 205 512 512; > #X obj 31 368 pix_alpha; > #X obj 19 34 gemwin; > #X msg 19 10 create \, 1; > #X msg 85 10 destroy; > #X obj 150 11 loadbang; > #X obj 370 204 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 > 1; > #X floatatom 410 310 5 0 1 1 frame# - -; > #X msg 406 289 auto \$1; > #X obj 408 270 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 > 1; > #X obj 419 349 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty end_reached 20 7 0 10 > -262144 > -1 -1; > #X obj 433 328 t f; > #X obj 370 384 pix_motionblur; > #X obj 370 408 pix_texture; > #X floatatom 475 371 5 0 1 0 - - -; > #X msg 78 36 dimen 512 512; > #X obj 31 451 pix_texture; > #X obj 31 230 pix_snap2tex; > #X obj 31 112 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 > 1; > #X obj 31 473 square 4; > #X obj 329 62 gemhead 5; > #X obj 370 226 gemhead 2; > #X msg 494 390 0.9; > #X obj 31 431 pix_compare; > #X msg 47 409 direction \$1; > #X obj 47 391 tgl 15 1 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 > ; > #X msg 56 303 1; > #X msg 94 303 0.8; > #X msg 74 349 0; > #X obj 31 269 alpha; > #X msg 105 348 1; > #X msg 378 249 open homer.avi; > #X obj 370 328 pix_movie; > #X obj 370 429 square 4; > #X obj 31 327 colorRGB 1 0.8 1; > #X msg 82 205 -5 0; > #X obj 394 39 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 > 1; > #X obj 395 78 counter -20 20 3; > #X obj 395 99 / 10; > #X obj 394 57 metro 50; > #X obj 206 204 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 > 1; > #X floatatom 246 310 5 0 1 1 frame# - -; > #X msg 242 289 auto \$1; > #X obj 244 270 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 > 1; > #X obj 255 349 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty end_reached 20 7 0 10 > -262144 > -1 -1; > #X obj 269 328 t f; > #X msg 214 249 open homer.avi; > #X obj 206 328 pix_movie; > #X obj 206 226 gemhead 10; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 25 0; > #X connect 2 0 25 1; > #X connect 3 0 0 0; > #X connect 3 0 25 0; > #X connect 4 0 28 0; > #X connect 5 0 7 0; > #X connect 6 0 5 1; > #X connect 8 0 25 2; > #X connect 9 0 31 0; > #X connect 11 0 10 0; > #X connect 12 0 10 0; > #X connect 13 0 23 0; > #X connect 13 0 8 0; > #X connect 13 0 43 0; > #X connect 13 0 30 0; > #X connect 13 0 17 0; > #X connect 13 0 39 0; > #X connect 13 0 44 0; > #X connect 13 0 54 0; > #X connect 13 0 51 0; > #X connect 14 0 29 0; > #X connect 15 0 40 1; > #X connect 16 0 40 0; > #X connect 17 0 16 0; > #X connect 19 0 40 1; > #X connect 20 0 21 0; > #X connect 21 0 41 0; > #X connect 22 0 20 1; > #X connect 23 0 10 0; > #X connect 24 0 27 0; > #X connect 25 0 37 0; > #X connect 26 0 3 0; > #X connect 28 0 5 0; > #X connect 29 0 40 0; > #X connect 30 0 20 1; > #X connect 31 0 24 0; > #X connect 32 0 31 0; > #X connect 33 0 32 0; > #X connect 34 0 42 1; > #X connect 34 0 42 2; > #X connect 34 0 42 3; > #X connect 35 0 42 2; > #X connect 36 0 9 2; > #X connect 37 0 42 0; > #X connect 38 0 9 2; > #X connect 39 0 40 0; > #X connect 40 0 20 0; > #X connect 40 2 18 0; > #X connect 40 2 19 0; > #X connect 42 0 9 0; > #X connect 43 0 25 1; > #X connect 44 0 47 0; > #X connect 45 0 46 0; > #X connect 46 0 6 0; > #X connect 47 0 45 0; > #X connect 48 0 56 0; > #X connect 49 0 55 1; > #X connect 50 0 55 0; > #X connect 51 0 50 0; > #X connect 53 0 55 1; > #X connect 54 0 55 0; > #X connect 55 0 31 1; > #X connect 55 2 52 0; > #X connect 55 2 53 0; > #X connect 56 0 55 0; > > > > > __ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone > who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > > > > ___
Re: [PD] multiple instances of pd (was: Multiple Webcams and Gem)
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Max Neupert wrote: Am 06.08.2007 um 17:42 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard: time you activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as many as you want this way, just like on Linux. interesting. by the way, is there a way on linux so it doesn't open all the time a new instance when i doubleclick on a pd file? I can show you how to do this tomorrow if you come to the Montréal Pd users group at Marc Fournel's atelier... 19:00 _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD + GEM] Siggraph
hi. i'll post it somewhere as soon as i have it made. good luck. adrian. On 8/6/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > It would be good to see some videos of it too. > > .hc > > On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:16 PM, adrian goya wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a video installation in the art gallery. It's called faces and > > its done with pd+gem. Look for the mirror all the way to the back. > > > > good luck. > > adrian > > > > _ > > www.adriangoya.com > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three > meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, > and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin > Luther King, Jr. > > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM two channel video key
[pix_snap2tex] isn't the way to go here, because it stores the result already in the the texture buffer. but you still want to process the 'captured' image with pix-objects. that means you want to use a [pix_snap] instead of [pix_snap2tex]. roman On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 17:28 -0700, Drew Browning wrote: > I'm trying to create a 2 channel video key in GEM. I would like to use > a moving geo (circle) as the source of the key and 2 movie clips for > each side of the key (or one clip processed differently). Searching > the archive I've gathered that I need to use pix_snap2tex to get the > geo to be seen as a pix. Then I should be able to use pix_compare, > pix_chroma_key, pix_mask, etc. However, I can't get any of these > objects to work after using pix_snap2tex. Any suggestions would be > appreciated. Below is one of my attempts. > > Drew > > #N canvas 640 2 644 546 10; > #X obj 39 153 t b; > #X msg 39 173 snap; > #X msg 52 205 0 0; > #X obj 31 132 gemhead 10; > #X obj 329 43 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 > ; > #X obj 329 139 translateXYZ; > #X floatatom 395 120 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X obj 329 159 circle; > #X msg 117 205 512 512; > #X obj 31 368 pix_alpha; > #X obj 19 34 gemwin; > #X msg 19 10 create \, 1; > #X msg 85 10 destroy; > #X obj 150 11 loadbang; > #X obj 370 204 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 > 1; > #X floatatom 410 310 5 0 1 1 frame# - -; > #X msg 406 289 auto \$1; > #X obj 408 270 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 > 1; > #X obj 419 349 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty end_reached 20 7 0 10 > -262144 > -1 -1; > #X obj 433 328 t f; > #X obj 370 384 pix_motionblur; > #X obj 370 408 pix_texture; > #X floatatom 475 371 5 0 1 0 - - -; > #X msg 78 36 dimen 512 512; > #X obj 31 451 pix_texture; > #X obj 31 230 pix_snap2tex; > #X obj 31 112 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 > 1; > #X obj 31 473 square 4; > #X obj 329 62 gemhead 5; > #X obj 370 226 gemhead 2; > #X msg 494 390 0.9; > #X obj 31 431 pix_compare; > #X msg 47 409 direction \$1; > #X obj 47 391 tgl 15 1 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 > ; > #X msg 56 303 1; > #X msg 94 303 0.8; > #X msg 74 349 0; > #X obj 31 269 alpha; > #X msg 105 348 1; > #X msg 378 249 open homer.avi; > #X obj 370 328 pix_movie; > #X obj 370 429 square 4; > #X obj 31 327 colorRGB 1 0.8 1; > #X msg 82 205 -5 0; > #X obj 394 39 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 > 1; > #X obj 395 78 counter -20 20 3; > #X obj 395 99 / 10; > #X obj 394 57 metro 50; > #X obj 206 204 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 > 1; > #X floatatom 246 310 5 0 1 1 frame# - -; > #X msg 242 289 auto \$1; > #X obj 244 270 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 > 1; > #X obj 255 349 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty end_reached 20 7 0 10 > -262144 > -1 -1; > #X obj 269 328 t f; > #X msg 214 249 open homer.avi; > #X obj 206 328 pix_movie; > #X obj 206 226 gemhead 10; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 25 0; > #X connect 2 0 25 1; > #X connect 3 0 0 0; > #X connect 3 0 25 0; > #X connect 4 0 28 0; > #X connect 5 0 7 0; > #X connect 6 0 5 1; > #X connect 8 0 25 2; > #X connect 9 0 31 0; > #X connect 11 0 10 0; > #X connect 12 0 10 0; > #X connect 13 0 23 0; > #X connect 13 0 8 0; > #X connect 13 0 43 0; > #X connect 13 0 30 0; > #X connect 13 0 17 0; > #X connect 13 0 39 0; > #X connect 13 0 44 0; > #X connect 13 0 54 0; > #X connect 13 0 51 0; > #X connect 14 0 29 0; > #X connect 15 0 40 1; > #X connect 16 0 40 0; > #X connect 17 0 16 0; > #X connect 19 0 40 1; > #X connect 20 0 21 0; > #X connect 21 0 41 0; > #X connect 22 0 20 1; > #X connect 23 0 10 0; > #X connect 24 0 27 0; > #X connect 25 0 37 0; > #X connect 26 0 3 0; > #X connect 28 0 5 0; > #X connect 29 0 40 0; > #X connect 30 0 20 1; > #X connect 31 0 24 0; > #X connect 32 0 31 0; > #X connect 33 0 32 0; > #X connect 34 0 42 1; > #X connect 34 0 42 2; > #X connect 34 0 42 3; > #X connect 35 0 42 2; > #X connect 36 0 9 2; > #X connect 37 0 42 0; > #X connect 38 0 9 2; > #X connect 39 0 40 0; > #X connect 40 0 20 0; > #X connect 40 2 18 0; > #X connect 40 2 19 0; > #X connect 42 0 9 0; > #X connect 43 0 25 1; > #X connect 44 0 47 0; > #X connect 45 0 46 0; > #X connect 46 0 6 0; > #X connect 47 0 45 0; > #X connect 48 0 56 0; > #X connect 49 0 55 1; > #X connect 50 0 55 0; > #X connect 51 0 50 0; > #X connect 53 0 55 1; > #X connect 54 0 55 0; > #X connect 55 0 31 1; > #X connect 55 2 52 0; > #X connect 55 2 53 0; > #X connect 56 0 55 0; > > > > > __ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone > who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > > > > __ > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > h
[PD] GEM two channel video key
I'm trying to create a 2 channel video key in GEM. I would like to use a moving geo (circle) as the source of the key and 2 movie clips for each side of the key (or one clip processed differently). Searching the archive I've gathered that I need to use pix_snap2tex to get the geo to be seen as a pix. Then I should be able to use pix_compare, pix_chroma_key, pix_mask, etc. However, I can't get any of these objects to work after using pix_snap2tex. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Below is one of my attempts. Drew #N canvas 640 2 644 546 10; #X obj 39 153 t b; #X msg 39 173 snap; #X msg 52 205 0 0; #X obj 31 132 gemhead 10; #X obj 329 43 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X obj 329 139 translateXYZ; #X floatatom 395 120 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 329 159 circle; #X msg 117 205 512 512; #X obj 31 368 pix_alpha; #X obj 19 34 gemwin; #X msg 19 10 create \, 1; #X msg 85 10 destroy; #X obj 150 11 loadbang; #X obj 370 204 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 410 310 5 0 1 1 frame# - -; #X msg 406 289 auto \$1; #X obj 408 270 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 419 349 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty end_reached 20 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 433 328 t f; #X obj 370 384 pix_motionblur; #X obj 370 408 pix_texture; #X floatatom 475 371 5 0 1 0 - - -; #X msg 78 36 dimen 512 512; #X obj 31 451 pix_texture; #X obj 31 230 pix_snap2tex; #X obj 31 112 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 31 473 square 4; #X obj 329 62 gemhead 5; #X obj 370 226 gemhead 2; #X msg 494 390 0.9; #X obj 31 431 pix_compare; #X msg 47 409 direction \$1; #X obj 47 391 tgl 15 1 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X msg 56 303 1; #X msg 94 303 0.8; #X msg 74 349 0; #X obj 31 269 alpha; #X msg 105 348 1; #X msg 378 249 open homer.avi; #X obj 370 328 pix_movie; #X obj 370 429 square 4; #X obj 31 327 colorRGB 1 0.8 1; #X msg 82 205 -5 0; #X obj 394 39 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 395 78 counter -20 20 3; #X obj 395 99 / 10; #X obj 394 57 metro 50; #X obj 206 204 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 246 310 5 0 1 1 frame# - -; #X msg 242 289 auto \$1; #X obj 244 270 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 255 349 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty end_reached 20 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 269 328 t f; #X msg 214 249 open homer.avi; #X obj 206 328 pix_movie; #X obj 206 226 gemhead 10; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 25 0; #X connect 2 0 25 1; #X connect 3 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 25 0; #X connect 4 0 28 0; #X connect 5 0 7 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 8 0 25 2; #X connect 9 0 31 0; #X connect 11 0 10 0; #X connect 12 0 10 0; #X connect 13 0 23 0; #X connect 13 0 8 0; #X connect 13 0 43 0; #X connect 13 0 30 0; #X connect 13 0 17 0; #X connect 13 0 39 0; #X connect 13 0 44 0; #X connect 13 0 54 0; #X connect 13 0 51 0; #X connect 14 0 29 0; #X connect 15 0 40 1; #X connect 16 0 40 0; #X connect 17 0 16 0; #X connect 19 0 40 1; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 41 0; #X connect 22 0 20 1; #X connect 23 0 10 0; #X connect 24 0 27 0; #X connect 25 0 37 0; #X connect 26 0 3 0; #X connect 28 0 5 0; #X connect 29 0 40 0; #X connect 30 0 20 1; #X connect 31 0 24 0; #X connect 32 0 31 0; #X connect 33 0 32 0; #X connect 34 0 42 1; #X connect 34 0 42 2; #X connect 34 0 42 3; #X connect 35 0 42 2; #X connect 36 0 9 2; #X connect 37 0 42 0; #X connect 38 0 9 2; #X connect 39 0 40 0; #X connect 40 0 20 0; #X connect 40 2 18 0; #X connect 40 2 19 0; #X connect 42 0 9 0; #X connect 43 0 25 1; #X connect 44 0 47 0; #X connect 45 0 46 0; #X connect 46 0 6 0; #X connect 47 0 45 0; #X connect 48 0 56 0; #X connect 49 0 55 1; #X connect 50 0 55 0; #X connect 51 0 50 0; #X connect 53 0 55 1; #X connect 54 0 55 0; #X connect 55 0 31 1; #X connect 55 2 52 0; #X connect 55 2 53 0; #X connect 56 0 55 0; Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pd] toxy, cyclone on 64-bit
Okay, I'm started on this. I'm probably going to pass out soon, but when I get a chance I'll update the lists of Debian packages. I know for one thing that testing now has jack 0.103.something. I'll try to go through it tomorrow. -Chuckk On 8/6/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Excellent! I think the best place to start would be to get > Pd-0.40.3-extended building, which mostly supports 64-bit. I think 0.41fully > supports it, but there isn't > Pd-0.41-extended yet. > > The easiest way to get the whole sources is using rsync: > > http://puredata.org/docs/developer/GettingPdSource > > Just try making a build, then post the transcript to pd-dev when you have > troubles. Here's the instructions, its a wiki, feel free to improve the > page: > > http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Debian > > .hc > > On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > I'd be up for helping. I don't know if I could fit the entire project > into my schedule in the next few months. I do have a 64-bit machine, but I > wrecked my hard drive and am using a smaller one, not large enough to > dual-boot, so I actually only have 64-bit Linux at the moment. > -Chuckk > > > On 8/5/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It would be nice to put out a beta 64-bit build of Pd-extended. Are you > > up for it? > > > > .hc > > > > On Aug 5, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > > > So I got some help from Mathieu and Patko on this, and I wanted to share > > it in case someone else (or myself in a couple months, probably) needs to > > know. > > Add "-fPIC" to the end of the line defining CFLAGS in Makefile.common ; > > this is necessary on non-x86 machines. Did I get that right? > > Thanks Patko and Mathieu! > > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > > > > > On 8/5/07, Chuckk Hubbard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm looking at the source, wondering if I can adapt it for 64-bit. > > > Any advice welcome. > > > My email to Krzysztof at [EMAIL PROTECTED] came back > > > undeliverable... did he leave the university? > > > > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > On 8/3/07, Chuckk Hubbard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if these libraries will compile on 64-bit Linux? > > > > If so... how do I compile them? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is > > related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > > > > > > > Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic > > > -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
With a webcam on firewire the [pdp_ieee1394] object is for you. Now have a look at pdp or pidip in reference. Jack > Thanks jack .. > What message do I need to send to [pdp_glx] in order for it to open an > external capture device i.e (a webcam) .. I cannot find anything on this > in > the help in PD or in the help patch for the object itself .. > > Dave > > On 8/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Good to know that ! >> thx. >> >> Jack >> >> > >> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, David Divilly wrote: >> > >> >> I was wondering if you could pass on that work around for using >> multiple >> >> instances of PD for mac .. Thanks a lot >> > >> > Open the Finder >> > >> > Get to the Pd application. >> > >> > Right-click (or Control-click) and select "show package contents". >> This >> is >> > because apps are not real "regular files", they are disguised folders. >> > >> > dig a bit. (there are too many folder levels in there) >> > >> > one of the files inside is actually a true OSX executable, which is >> the >> > one OSX loads when you click on the Pd application. I think it's in a >> > folder labeled "MACOSX". Unlike when opening the app, each time you >> > activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as many as you want >> > this way, just like on Linux. >> > >> > You can also achieve the same effect by opening a Terminal. Nothing >> > special here: Pd.app will look like an ordinary folder. This will be >> easy >> > if you already know how to use the Terminal in OSX or Linux. >> > >> > _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... >> > | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC >> > Canada___ >> > PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >> >> > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
Thanks jack .. What message do I need to send to [pdp_glx] in order for it to open an external capture device i.e (a webcam) .. I cannot find anything on this in the help in PD or in the help patch for the object itself .. Dave On 8/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good to know that ! > thx. > > Jack > > > > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, David Divilly wrote: > > > >> I was wondering if you could pass on that work around for using > multiple > >> instances of PD for mac .. Thanks a lot > > > > Open the Finder > > > > Get to the Pd application. > > > > Right-click (or Control-click) and select "show package contents". This > is > > because apps are not real "regular files", they are disguised folders. > > > > dig a bit. (there are too many folder levels in there) > > > > one of the files inside is actually a true OSX executable, which is the > > one OSX loads when you click on the Pd application. I think it's in a > > folder labeled "MACOSX". Unlike when opening the app, each time you > > activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as many as you want > > this way, just like on Linux. > > > > You can also achieve the same effect by opening a Terminal. Nothing > > special here: Pd.app will look like an ordinary folder. This will be > easy > > if you already know how to use the Terminal in OSX or Linux. > > > > _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... > > | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC > > Canada___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] multiple instances of pd (was: Multiple Webcams and Gem)
Am 06.08.2007 um 17:42 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard: > time you activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as > many as you want this way, just like on Linux. interesting. by the way, is there a way on linux so it doesn't open all the time a new instance when i doubleclick on a pd file? max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Congrès PureData Conventi on 07
Interview with Darsha Hewitt, artist and coordinator of L'Œuvre ouverte | PureData Convention 07 Wednesday August 8th, 2007 from 11:30 till noon, Beewoo welcomes Darsha Hewitt on the XX files on CKUT 90.3 FM (www.ckut.ca). Darsha will tell us about the upcoming show in which she is taking part at the Pierre François Ouellette gallery in Montreal, opening on the August 11th. She will also talk about the PureData Convention starting on the 21st of August in Montreal. So tune in or download the show on the archives at www.ckut.ca --- Entrevue avec Darsha Hewitt, artiste et coordonnatrice de L'Œuvre ouverte | Congrès PureData 07 Mercredi le 8 août, 2007, de 11h30 à 12h, Beewoo accueille Darsha Hewitt à l'émission XXfiles sur les ondes de CKUT 90.3 FM (www.ckut.ca). Darsha nous entretiendra de l'exposition à laquelle elle participe à la galerie Pierre François Ouellette à Montréal, à partir du 11 août. Elle fera aussi la promotion du congrès PureData dont elle est la coordonnatrice. Synthonisez le 90.3 FM le 8 août ou écoutez l'émission archivée en ligne au www.ckut.ca___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi controller advice?
moin Conor, On 2007-08-06 23:56:30, Conor J Curran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears to have written: > Hi all, > I was looking around recently for a foot controlled midi controller. The > more expression pedals the better. I was under the impression that the > expression pedals have a range of 0-127 (is this correct?). Yep, that's what mine do. > I was hoping > to map as many expression pedals to a controller number each in order > for each pedal to control some aspect of an external. > > The only midi controller I could find which had a decent number of > pedals was the fatar mp117. ... looks cool, but also very much like an organ-emulator rather than an expression pedal bank. I recently got a behringer fcb1010, which has 2 expression pedals, 10 bang stompers, and 2 vestigial stompers (device-internal use only). I've been using the bangs (via [pgmin]->[route]) to select where the expression pedal data goes (via [sprinkler]), which works quite well. the device itself is cheap but poorly constructed: in particular, the expression pedals use a good 80% of their physical range for maybe 10% of the data range ... with only whole byte values, that's a serious pain ... but hey, it's behringer: what did i expect?. I think roland and yamaha also make 1-2 expression pedal multi-bang stompboxes along the same lines, but have never used them. If I had the time, I'd get an arduino and a mess of burned out wah pedals on ebay and solder my own ;-) marmosets, Bryan -- Bryan Jurish "There is *always* one more bug." [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Multiple Webcams and pdp
Hi, I am working in an computer vision based installation and I have to make a movement detection in a big area so I have to use at least 4 cameras :( I was wondering if it is possible to sample four 640x480 frames from the cameras to compose another 640x480 frame and then run the detection under pdp or pidip. Another option could be to make a timer and send 1 frame every 4 frames to the analysis, could it be better to optimize the process? thanks and all the best, Qq Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/reto/entretenimiento.html___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] midi controller advice?
Hi all, I was looking around recently for a foot controlled midi controller. The more expression pedals the better. I was under the impression that the expression pedals have a range of 0-127 (is this correct?). I was hoping to map as many expression pedals to a controller number each in order for each pedal to control some aspect of an external. The only midi controller I could find which had a decent number of pedals was the fatar mp117. The review in sound on sound didn't really leave me a good impression. Also this model seems to be more about playing an octave of a piano with feet as opposed to arbitrary assignment and control. Anybody have any suggestions? Best regards, Conor ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd command-line options . ( -guicmd , -guiport )
errordeveloper wrote:
> hello pd-list.
>
> I would like to find out more on how exactly the undocumented options
> '-guicmd' and '-guiport' might be used?
>
> when pd starts up it usualy listens to port 5401 and the netstat gives
>
> %netstat|grep 5401
> tcp0 0 localhost:5401 localhost:52381
> ESTABLISHED
> tcp0 0 localhost:52381 localhost:5401
> ESTABLISHED
>
> does it mean that 5401 if where 'pd' sits and 5381 is where 'pdgui'
> comes from? so the could be on different host or there any
> restrictions? i have got pd compiled only one machine , so could not
> test this yet ..
>
From my notes that are a few years old now, this is how pd starts up
the gui interface:
sys_startgui(sys_guidir->s_name): in s_inter.c sets up some signal
handlers, opens a TCP socket (sys_guisock)
on port 5400 (FIRSTPORTNUM) and then forks.
The child starts the gui process:
Under unix, the environment variables TCL_LIBRARY
and TX_LIBRARY are declared
and the pd-gui program is called with the port
number as argument:
/bin/sh sh -c
TCL_LIBRARY="LIBDIRPATH/tcl/library" TK_LIBRARY="LIBDIRPATH/tk/library"
"GUIDIRPATH/pd-gui" 5400
where LIBDIRPATH = sys_libdir->s_name, usually
/lib/pd, and GUIDIRPATH = guidir, usually /lib/pd/bin
On Windows and MacOSX, the Wish shell is spawned
and fed the pd.tk script.
The child doesn't return.
The parent thread sets a higher priority, then
forks again to start a watchdog process.
Finally the parent thread calls
socketreceiver_new(0, 0, 0, 0);
sys_addpollfn(sys_guisock,
(t_fdpollfn)socketreceiver_read, sys_socketreceiver);
sys_gui("pdtk_watchdog\n");
sys_get_audio_apis(buf);
sys_vgui("pdtk_pd_startup {%s} %s\n",
pd_version, buf): pdtk_pd_startup is in pd.tk. It calls pd
with the pd command and the argument init.
The class pd has glob_initfromgui() as the
handler for the init message.
> also another option - '-guicmd' - what about this one?
>
>
From the help text:
"-guicmd \"cmd...\" -- start alternatve GUI program (e.g., remote via
ssh)\n",
The relevant call is in sys_startgui in s_inter.c:
execl("/bin/sh", "sh", "-c", sys_guicmd, (char*)0);
..which defaults to calling Wish, the TCL shell.
This bit isn't used for MSW versions though. (Seems to be because
Windows TCL doesn't have a callback mechanism so pd has to keep polling
the gui.)
Martin
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Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
Good to know that ! thx. Jack > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, David Divilly wrote: > >> I was wondering if you could pass on that work around for using multiple >> instances of PD for mac .. Thanks a lot > > Open the Finder > > Get to the Pd application. > > Right-click (or Control-click) and select "show package contents". This is > because apps are not real "regular files", they are disguised folders. > > dig a bit. (there are too many folder levels in there) > > one of the files inside is actually a true OSX executable, which is the > one OSX loads when you click on the Pd application. I think it's in a > folder labeled "MACOSX". Unlike when opening the app, each time you > activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as many as you want > this way, just like on Linux. > > You can also achieve the same effect by opening a Terminal. Nothing > special here: Pd.app will look like an ordinary folder. This will be easy > if you already know how to use the Terminal in OSX or Linux. > > _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... > | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC > Canada___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
Sorry, my precedent post is a mistake, the good objects are [pdp_yqt] or [pdp_qt] at the end of tour tree with X11 you need [pdp_glx]. Tell me if it's ok ! Jack ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
yeah, it's [pdp_glx] > Thanks Roman > So does anybody know of a mac equivalent for this??, because it seems in > all > the example patches [pdp_v4l] > is used when multiple video capture devices are used. > > Dave. > > On 8/6/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 21:56 +0100, David Divilly wrote: >> > Ok, pdp and pidip both load now, but when I load the example patches >> > from the browser >> > it says: >> > >> > pdp_v4l >> > ... couldn't create >> > >> > Do I need to load an extra lib for this?? .. Dave >> >> no, i think not. 'v4l' means 'video for linux', which is the standard >> interface for capturing video from tv-cards, usb-cams etc on linux. if i >> am not totally mistaken, v4l isn't available on osx. i don't know, if >> there is a special object for capturing video on pdp/osx, though. >> >> roman >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: >> http://mail.yahoo.de >> >> > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, David Divilly wrote: I was wondering if you could pass on that work around for using multiple instances of PD for mac .. Thanks a lot Open the Finder Get to the Pd application. Right-click (or Control-click) and select "show package contents". This is because apps are not real "regular files", they are disguised folders. dig a bit. (there are too many folder levels in there) one of the files inside is actually a true OSX executable, which is the one OSX loads when you click on the Pd application. I think it's in a folder labeled "MACOSX". Unlike when opening the app, each time you activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as many as you want this way, just like on Linux. You can also achieve the same effect by opening a Terminal. Nothing special here: Pd.app will look like an ordinary folder. This will be easy if you already know how to use the Terminal in OSX or Linux. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd command-line options . ( -guicmd , -guiport )
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, errordeveloper wrote: I would like to find out more on how exactly the undocumented options '-guicmd' and '-guiport' might be used? Using X11's client-server possibilities isn't that much more low-level than Pd's client-server. If your connection is too thin, then try compressing your X11 using "ssh -C -X" forwarding. If that is still too slow, then -guicmd -guiport might be worth a try. To save a lot of bandwidth and of roundtrips, the protocol would need to be much more high-level and the client/server halves would need to be much more decoupled... but I wrote a lot about that in the past already. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
Thanks Roman So does anybody know of a mac equivalent for this??, because it seems in all the example patches [pdp_v4l] is used when multiple video capture devices are used. Dave. On 8/6/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 21:56 +0100, David Divilly wrote: > > Ok, pdp and pidip both load now, but when I load the example patches > > from the browser > > it says: > > > > pdp_v4l > > ... couldn't create > > > > Do I need to load an extra lib for this?? .. Dave > > no, i think not. 'v4l' means 'video for linux', which is the standard > interface for capturing video from tv-cards, usb-cams etc on linux. if i > am not totally mistaken, v4l isn't available on osx. i don't know, if > there is a special object for capturing video on pdp/osx, though. > > roman > > > > > > > > > ___ > Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: > http://mail.yahoo.de > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [writesf~] gets stucked when no space left on a device
hello list. i felt like reporting one of bugs, which are quite rear to find in pd. i had recorded something massive (8chan/96k/4byte) for longer then usual and ran out of space (was about >1gig, i reckon) ..so pd got just stucked in a way that i could'n stop it or close/save any patch. even after i freed some space , it still was in the same state and kept printing 'pd: siglaing watchdog ...'. so just in case anyone gets around bug fixes - could be usefull to have some warning comming up when [writesf~] doesn't enuf have space left, ormay be let it give up writing when 99.6% are filled up.. cheers. Ilya. -- === my gpg keyserver : - http://keyserver.noreply.org:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD0E440AE&fingerprint=on&hash=on&op=index ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd command-line options . ( -guicmd , -guiport )
hello pd-list. I would like to find out more on how exactly the undocumented options '-guicmd' and '-guiport' might be used? when pd starts up it usualy listens to port 5401 and the netstat gives %netstat|grep 5401 tcp0 0 localhost:5401 localhost:52381 ESTABLISHED tcp0 0 localhost:52381 localhost:5401 ESTABLISHED does it mean that 5401 if where 'pd' sits and 5381 is where 'pdgui' comes from? so the could be on different host or there any restrictions? i have got pd compiled only one machine , so could not test this yet .. also another option - '-guicmd' - what about this one? i thinking how to setup a such a 'multi-station', which could have multiple users using some set of programms for their multimedia production with such a particular oportuniti to work in the same programm at time .. so with PD, in fact , i can see many ways of implimenting that. it is event too many ways to try, needs benchmarking i think. .. appart from what could be done with built-in pd stuff, i'd like to try Xdmx and may be even just XdmCP (simply when a user log-in on a thin client - he gets a full-sceen patch as an Xsession ) .. but i'm realy curious what those undocumented options are ! -- === my gpg keyserver : - http://keyserver.noreply.org:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD0E440AE&fingerprint=on&hash=on&op=index ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 21:56 +0100, David Divilly wrote: > Ok, pdp and pidip both load now, but when I load the example patches > from the browser > it says: > > pdp_v4l > ... couldn't create > > Do I need to load an extra lib for this?? .. Dave no, i think not. 'v4l' means 'video for linux', which is the standard interface for capturing video from tv-cards, usb-cams etc on linux. if i am not totally mistaken, v4l isn't available on osx. i don't know, if there is a special object for capturing video on pdp/osx, though. roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] still have problem with pdp_plasma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I still have a problem with pdp_plasma object. The patch is very simple and attached at this mail : - a capture of the patch wondow - a capture of the x11 window When i bang the pdp_plasma, nothing happen. Why, but why ? Jack ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list eyo, ok, i think i got it... pdp_add would not add frames that are not of the same size, so the solution is to use some pdp_scale in between, like in the attached patch. suerte, sevy #N canvas 344 67 655 519 10; #X obj 127 145 pdp_yqt; #X obj 231 31 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 20 8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 86 103 loop \$1; #X obj 87 81 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 20 8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1 ; #X msg 333 11 open \$1; #X obj 332 -13 openpanel; #X obj 317 -30 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 20 8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X floatatom 279 66 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 188 32 stop; #X obj 286 35 hsl 300 15 0 1000 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 7100 1; #X obj 220 102 metro 70; #X obj 158 318 pdp_add; #X obj 227 198 pdp_plasma; #X obj 150 375 pdp_xv; #X msg 346 87 dim 320 240; #X msg 346 114 type grey; #X msg 346 137 type yv12; #X msg 346 168 seed 123; #X floatatom 346 192 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 216 268 pdp_scale 320 240; #X obj 85 254 pdp_scale 320 240; #X connect 0 0 20 0; #X connect 1 0 10 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X connect 7 0 10 1; #X connect 8 0 10 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 13 0; #X connect 12 0 19 0; #X connect 14 0 12 0; #X connect 15 0 12 0; #X connect 16 0 12 0; #X connect 17 0 12 0; #X connect 18 0 12 1; #X connect 19 0 11 1; #X connect 20 0 11 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
Ok, pdp and pidip both load now, but when I load the example patches from the browser it says: pdp_v4l ... couldn't create Do I need to load an extra lib for this?? .. Dave On 8/6/07, David Divilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > X11 was the problem, works fine now .. Thanks > > Dave > > On 8/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's strange because i use PD on macosx 10.4.10 on powerpc and intel > > platform and i have not notice a problem with pdp with the > > 0.39.2-extended-rc3 (i use it)! > > You must launch X11 before to start rendering (if you don't have it, see > > on your installation cd of macosx). > > Delete your org.puredata.pd.plist in your preference folder if you have > > it. > > Create a new patch and put : [import pdp pidip] object, then close it. > > Now you can retry. > > > > Jack > > > > > > > Thanks for the info guy, but I'm having problems installing PDP, I > > using > > > Pd > > > version 0.39.2-extended-rc3 an I keep getting this error: > > > > > > /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app > > /Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin: > > > dlopen(/Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin, > > > 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib > > > Referenced from: /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app > > > /Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin > > > Reason: image not found > > > pdp: can't load library > > > > > > Any ideas on what I'm missing here. Thanks ... > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > > On 8/6/07, Mathieu Bouchard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > > >> > have a look at pdp… > > >> >> Hi Guys > > >> >> I was wondering if there is a way/object that allows me to display > > > > >> >> multiple > > >> >> GEM windows at the same time. I have 3 webcams connected to PD and > > I > > >> want > > >> >> an > > >> >> individual GEM window for each. > > >> >> Any ideas?? Thanks. > > >> > > >> Also GridFlow. I had 6 cameras in 6 windows in one pd, a few months > > ago. > > >> > > >> You may also try running GEM in several "copies" of pd at once. In > > >> Linux/Windows you only have to click several times on pd; in OSX you > > >> can't > > >> just do that, but I know a workaround for that if you (or anyone) > > needs > > >> it. > > >> > > >> _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... > > >> | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada > > > > > > > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
X11 was the problem, works fine now .. Thanks Dave On 8/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's strange because i use PD on macosx 10.4.10 on powerpc and intel > platform and i have not notice a problem with pdp with the > 0.39.2-extended-rc3 (i use it)! > You must launch X11 before to start rendering (if you don't have it, see > on your installation cd of macosx). > Delete your org.puredata.pd.plist in your preference folder if you have > it. > Create a new patch and put : [import pdp pidip] object, then close it. > Now you can retry. > > Jack > > > > Thanks for the info guy, but I'm having problems installing PDP, I using > > Pd > > version 0.39.2-extended-rc3 an I keep getting this error: > > > > /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app > /Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin: > > dlopen(/Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app > /Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin, > > 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib > > Referenced from: /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app > > /Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin > > Reason: image not found > > pdp: can't load library > > > > Any ideas on what I'm missing here. Thanks ... > > > > Dave. > > > > > > On 8/6/07, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> > have a look at pdp… > >> >> Hi Guys > >> >> I was wondering if there is a way/object that allows me to display > >> >> multiple > >> >> GEM windows at the same time. I have 3 webcams connected to PD and I > >> want > >> >> an > >> >> individual GEM window for each. > >> >> Any ideas?? Thanks. > >> > >> Also GridFlow. I had 6 cameras in 6 windows in one pd, a few months > ago. > >> > >> You may also try running GEM in several "copies" of pd at once. In > >> Linux/Windows you only have to click several times on pd; in OSX you > >> can't > >> just do that, but I know a workaround for that if you (or anyone) needs > >> it. > >> > >> _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... > >> | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada > > > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] still have problem with pdp_plasma
Great ! Thanx very much Yves, all is ok now ! Bye. Jack > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Hello list, >>I still have a problem with pdp_plasma object. >>The patch is very simple and attached at this mail : >>- a capture of the patch wondow >>- a capture of the x11 window >> >>When i bang the pdp_plasma, nothing happen. >>Why, but why ? >> >>Jack >> >> >> >>___ >>PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > eyo, > > ok, i think i got it... > > pdp_add would not add frames that are not of the same size, > so the solution is to use some pdp_scale in between, > like in the attached patch. > > suerte, > sevy > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] RIPBM ::: Call for entries 2007 ::: film video multimedia ::: in Paris, in Berlin, in Madrid [\\\-> ! <-///]
Dear all, Please find below the Call for entries we are now circulating for the 14th "Rencontres internationales Paris/Berlin/Madrid" that will take place from the 22nd of November to the 1st of December in Paris at the Centre Pompidou, the Jeu de Paume national museum and other location. This piece of information is released so that artists, filmmakers, and collectives may submit their works. General information regarding the Rencontres Internationales is posted on our website, at : http://art-action.org Please feel free to forward this information as widely as possible and to contact us for any further information. Best wishes The Festival team == | CALL FOR ENTRIES: UNTIL THE 15th OF AUGUST, 2007 | RENCONTRES INTERNATIONALES PARIS/BERLIN/MADRID | FILM / VIDEO / MULTIMEDIA | http://art-action.org/en_info_appel.htm *** Please forward this information as widely as possible *** The 'Rencontres Internationales' will take place in Paris in November 2007, at the Centre Pompidou, at the Jeu de Paume national museum and in other key locations. The same program will be presented in Madrid in April 2008 and in Berlin in June 2008. Those three events will propose an international programming focusing on new cinema, video and multimedia, gathering works of artists and filmmakers acknowledged on the international scene along with young artists and not much distributed filmmakers. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ANY INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANISATION CAN SUBMIT ONE OR SEVERAL PROPOSALS. THE CALL FOR ENTRIES IS OPEN TO FILM, VIDEO AND MULTIMEDIA CYCLES, without any restriction of length or genre. All submissions are free, without any limitation of geographic origin. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + CINEMA AND VIDEO CYCLES (all film and video formats) * Video / Video art / Experimental video * Experimental Film * Documentary, experimental documentary * Fiction - short, medium and feature length * Animation movie MULTIMEDIA CYCLES * Installation * Net art * Performance, concert + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Video and film submissions are received on DVD. ALL submissions are sent by postal mail, enclosed with a filled-in ONLINE ENTRY FORM, UNTIL THE 15th of AUGUST, 2007. Entry forms and information regarding the 'Rencontres internationales Paris/Berlin/Madrid' are available on our website http://art-action.org/en_info_appel.htm + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The 'Rencontres Internationales' offer more than a simple presentation of the works. They introduce an intercultural forum gathering various guests from all over the world - artists and filmmakers, institutions and emerging organisations - to testify of the vivacity of creation and its distribution, but also of the artistic and cultural contexts that often are experiencing deep changes. The festival reflects specificities and crossings of art practices between new cinema and contemporary art, explores media art practices and their critical purposes, and work out this necessary time when points of view meet and are exchanged. The festival aims at presenting those works to a broad audience, at creating circulations between different art practices and between different audiences, as well as creating new exchanges between artists, filmmakers and professionals. The 'Rencontres Internationales Paris/Berlin/Madrid', an event without competition, are supported by French, German, Spanish and international cultural institutions. http://art-action.org/en_soutien.htm PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SPREAD OUT THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION to creative organizations, art networks, production companies, artists and filmmakers you are in contact with. Best wishes. The Rencontres Internationales -- Les Rencontres Internationales Paris/Berlin/Madrid #14 > Paris > Centre Pompidou, Jeu de Paume, Cinéma Entrepôt 22 nov. - 1er dec. | 22. Nov - 1. Dez. | Nov. 25th - Dec. 1st ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
It's strange because i use PD on macosx 10.4.10 on powerpc and intel platform and i have not notice a problem with pdp with the 0.39.2-extended-rc3 (i use it)! You must launch X11 before to start rendering (if you don't have it, see on your installation cd of macosx). Delete your org.puredata.pd.plist in your preference folder if you have it. Create a new patch and put : [import pdp pidip] object, then close it. Now you can retry. Jack > Thanks for the info guy, but I'm having problems installing PDP, I using > Pd > version 0.39.2-extended-rc3 an I keep getting this error: > > /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin: > dlopen(/Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin, > 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib > Referenced from: /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app > /Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin > Reason: image not found > pdp: can't load library > > Any ideas on what I'm missing here. Thanks ... > > Dave. > > > On 8/6/07, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > have a look at pdp >> >> Hi Guys >> >> I was wondering if there is a way/object that allows me to display >> >> multiple >> >> GEM windows at the same time. I have 3 webcams connected to PD and I >> want >> >> an >> >> individual GEM window for each. >> >> Any ideas?? Thanks. >> >> Also GridFlow. I had 6 cameras in 6 windows in one pd, a few months ago. >> >> You may also try running GEM in several "copies" of pd at once. In >> Linux/Windows you only have to click several times on pd; in OSX you >> can't >> just do that, but I know a workaround for that if you (or anyone) needs >> it. >> >> _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... >> | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
Thanks for the info guy, but I'm having problems installing PDP, I using Pd version 0.39.2-extended-rc3 an I keep getting this error: /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib Referenced from: /Users/DAW/Desktop/Pd-extended.app /Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin Reason: image not found pdp: can't load library Any ideas on what I'm missing here. Thanks ... Dave. On 8/6/07, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > have a look at pdp… > >> Hi Guys > >> I was wondering if there is a way/object that allows me to display > >> multiple > >> GEM windows at the same time. I have 3 webcams connected to PD and I > want > >> an > >> individual GEM window for each. > >> Any ideas?? Thanks. > > Also GridFlow. I had 6 cameras in 6 windows in one pd, a few months ago. > > You may also try running GEM in several "copies" of pd at once. In > Linux/Windows you only have to click several times on pd; in OSX you can't > just do that, but I know a workaround for that if you (or anyone) needs > it. > > _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... > | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD + GEM] Siggraph
Hey, It would be good to see some videos of it too. .hc On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:16 PM, adrian goya wrote: > Hi, > > I have a video installation in the art gallery. It's called faces and > its done with pd+gem. Look for the mirror all the way to the back. > > good luck. > adrian > > _ > www.adriangoya.com > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have a look at pdp Hi Guys I was wondering if there is a way/object that allows me to display multiple GEM windows at the same time. I have 3 webcams connected to PD and I want an individual GEM window for each. Any ideas?? Thanks. Also GridFlow. I had 6 cameras in 6 windows in one pd, a few months ago. You may also try running GEM in several "copies" of pd at once. In Linux/Windows you only have to click several times on pd; in OSX you can't just do that, but I know a workaround for that if you (or anyone) needs it. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
have a look at pdp > Hi Guys > I was wondering if there is a way/object that allows me to display > multiple > GEM windows at the same time. I have 3 webcams connected to PD and I want > an > individual GEM window for each. > Any ideas?? Thanks. > > Dave. > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pd] toxy, cyclone on 64-bit
Excellent! I think the best place to start would be to get Pd-0.40.3- extended building, which mostly supports 64-bit. I think 0.41 fully supports it, but there isn't Pd-0.41-extended yet. The easiest way to get the whole sources is using rsync: http://puredata.org/docs/developer/GettingPdSource Just try making a build, then post the transcript to pd-dev when you have troubles. Here's the instructions, its a wiki, feel free to improve the page: http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Debian .hc On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: I'd be up for helping. I don't know if I could fit the entire project into my schedule in the next few months. I do have a 64- bit machine, but I wrecked my hard drive and am using a smaller one, not large enough to dual-boot, so I actually only have 64-bit Linux at the moment. -Chuckk On 8/5/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be nice to put out a beta 64-bit build of Pd-extended. Are you up for it? .hc On Aug 5, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: So I got some help from Mathieu and Patko on this, and I wanted to share it in case someone else (or myself in a couple months, probably) needs to know. Add "-fPIC" to the end of the line defining CFLAGS in Makefile.common ; this is necessary on non-x86 machines. Did I get that right? Thanks Patko and Mathieu! -Chuckk On 8/5/07, Chuckk Hubbard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking at the source, wondering if I can adapt it for 64- bit. Any advice welcome. My email to Krzysztof at [EMAIL PROTECTED] came back undeliverable... did he leave the university? -Chuckk On 8/3/07, Chuckk Hubbard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know if these libraries will compile on 64-bit Linux? If so... how do I compile them? Thanks! -Chuckk -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pd] toxy, cyclone on 64-bit
I'd be up for helping. I don't know if I could fit the entire project into my schedule in the next few months. I do have a 64-bit machine, but I wrecked my hard drive and am using a smaller one, not large enough to dual-boot, so I actually only have 64-bit Linux at the moment. -Chuckk On 8/5/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It would be nice to put out a beta 64-bit build of Pd-extended. Are you > up for it? > > .hc > > On Aug 5, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > So I got some help from Mathieu and Patko on this, and I wanted to share > it in case someone else (or myself in a couple months, probably) needs to > know. > Add "-fPIC" to the end of the line defining CFLAGS in Makefile.common ; > this is necessary on non-x86 machines. Did I get that right? > Thanks Patko and Mathieu! > > -Chuckk > > > > > On 8/5/07, Chuckk Hubbard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm looking at the source, wondering if I can adapt it for 64-bit. Any > > advice welcome. > > My email to Krzysztof at [EMAIL PROTECTED] came back undeliverable... > > did he leave the university? > > > > -Chuckk > > > > On 8/3/07, Chuckk Hubbard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone know if these libraries will compile on 64-bit Linux? If > > > so... how do I compile them? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > > > > > -- > http://www.badmuthahubbard.com > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is > related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra > > > -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Multiple Webcams and Gem
Hi Guys I was wondering if there is a way/object that allows me to display multiple GEM windows at the same time. I have 3 webcams connected to PD and I want an individual GEM window for each. Any ideas?? Thanks. Dave. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD + GEM] Siggraph
Hi, I have a video installation in the art gallery. It's called faces and its done with pd+gem. Look for the mirror all the way to the back. good luck. adrian _ www.adriangoya.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] KNIF.HAND.CHOP.BOT
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:36:59 +0200 Bryan Jurish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i dunno... > > *** glibc detected: double-free or mutilation at 0x68616e64 *** Probably a truncated digit or dangling pointer $ finger luser | cut -c 1 O U C H > > On 2007-08-06 15:27:05, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears to > have written: > > Would you trust your life to Pd? How about just your fingers? ;) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4uMZOcsxxs > > > > (A friend just sent me this, I don't know if it's been on this list > > before.) > > > > .hc > > -- > *** > > Bryan Jurish > Deutsches Textarchiv > Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften > > Jägerstr. 22/23 > 10117 Berlin > > Tel.: +49 (0)30 20370 539 > E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *** > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] KNIF.HAND.CHOP.BOT
Hallo, Cesare Marilungo hat gesagt: // Cesare Marilungo wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Would you trust your life to Pd? How about just your fingers? ;) > > > > > Well... NO WAY!!!. Especially if running on Windows. :-) At least it seems to be physically impossible to hit the hand, only a finger could be cut off. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] KNIF.HAND.CHOP.BOT
i dunno... *** glibc detected: double-free or mutilation at 0x68616e64 *** On 2007-08-06 15:27:05, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears to have written: > Would you trust your life to Pd? How about just your fingers? ;) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4uMZOcsxxs > > (A friend just sent me this, I don't know if it's been on this list > before.) > > .hc -- *** Bryan Jurish Deutsches Textarchiv Berlin-Brandenburgische Akademie der Wissenschaften Jägerstr. 22/23 10117 Berlin Tel.: +49 (0)30 20370 539 E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] KNIF.HAND.CHOP.BOT
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Would you trust your life to Pd? How about just your fingers? ;) > > Well... NO WAY!!!. Especially if running on Windows. :-) -c. -- http://www.cesaremarilungo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] KNIF.HAND.CHOP.BOT
nice!!! but better not carry this in your hand luggage... marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Would you trust your life to Pd? How about just your fingers? ;) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4uMZOcsxxs > > (A friend just sent me this, I don't know if it's been on this list > before.) > > .hc > > > > > Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] KNIF.HAND.CHOP.BOT
Would you trust your life to Pd? How about just your fingers? ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4uMZOcsxxs (A friend just sent me this, I don't know if it's been on this list before.) .hc Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PureData Convention 07: P erformances + Exhibitions + Paper sessions | Performance s + Expositions + Conférences
Hey, You'll be missed. It's going to be a good time, the PdMtl crew are going all out, even welcoming us into their homes, literally! .hc On Aug 3, 2007, at 11:44 PM, cyrille henry wrote: > hello, > unlinke what is announced there, nicolas and I will not be part of > this pd convention. > > i hope i'll see all of you next time. > > cyrille > > > PD Convention '07 a écrit : >> L'Œuvre ouverte | PureData Convention 07 >> Performances + Exhibitions + Paper sessions >> >> WHO IS PERFORMING AND WHEN? >> WHERE IS THE ARTWORK? WHO ARE THE ARTISTS? >> WHO IS PRESENTING PAPERS AND ABOUT WHAT? >> >> Check it out on : www.pure-data.ca/en >> >> We are very pleased to be hosting over 30 artists and 25 developpers >> from more than 10 countries ! There will be a total of 12 >> performances, 10 installations, 6 workshops and 24 papers. >> >> Consult the list of the participants who are coming ! >> Check out the workshops. >> Learn about the exhibitions and the performances. >> More info about papers and round table discussions very soon! >> >> --- >> L'Œuvre ouverte | Congrès PureData 07 >> Performances + Expositions + Conférences >> >> Qui présente quoi, quand ? >> Quelles sont les installations ? >> Les performances ? >> Les conférences ? >> Les ateliers ? >> >> Consultez le site : www.pure-data.ca/fr >> >> Nous sommes très heureux de recevoir plus de 30 artistes et 25 >> développeurs de plus de 10 pays. Il y aura un total de 12 >> performances, 10 installations, 6 ateliers et 24 conférences. >> >> Jetez un coup d'œil à la liste des participants ! >> Inscrivez-vous aux ateliers ! >> Découvrez les projets d'installations et de performances. >> Plus d'information à propos des conférences et des tables rondes, >> très bientôt ! >> >> >> Martin Renaud >> Responsable des communications >> L'Œuvre ouverte | Congrès PureData 07 >> www.pure-data.ca >> >> Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Tél. : (514)521-2116 #15 >> >> ___ >> PD-announce mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
