Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread federico
thanks. fixed in CVS.
I'll post soon a 0.2.3 release to
http://www.puredata.org/Members/federico/externals

ciao

On 9/23/07, Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrice Colet a écrit :
> > Hello federico,
> >
> >  After playing with your nice tracker external, I've been exposed to bug
> > with [get $1 $2( message.
>
> I've attached a patch where the error is easier to track, I've used the
> dll compiled by tof
>
>

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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread federico
> using [tracker] like a visual matrix.

heh, it *is* a visual matrix ;)

>   Also I think more things should be implemented in this way,
> like some separators, to output also numbers from different
> successive columns

I don't think I understand you here... what are separators?

perhaps you could do something like:

|get 0 1, get 0 2, get 0 3(
|
[tracker]

or, better:

|1, 2, 3(
|
|get 0 $1(
|
[tracker]

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Re: [PD] scale from maxlib - undocumented feature

2007-09-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote:

> > This is a "standard" feature of all obects/externals:
> > If the hot inlet does not accept a list, the first element is sent to the
> > first inlet, the second element to the second inlet, etc...
> 
> oh, I guess I was missing something all these years

You were probably already using it with [line~] and [vline~] etc.

Once you realize it, you may find it very useful in other places as
well. For example it's very handy to add a list of two numbers without
unpacking: 

 [1 2(
 |
 [+ ]
 |
 3

or to swap numbers: 

 [1 2[
 |
 [swap]
 |
 2 1

or to multiply many numbers with [list-reduce]: 

 [1 2 3 4 5 6 7(
 |
 [list-reduce]X[* ]
 |
 5040

or use it with [expr]:

 [1 2 3 4(
 |
 [expr $f1/$f2 + $f3/$f4]
 |
 1.25

Ciao
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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-23 Thread bigswift
i would be interested in helping out or working on a virtual DMX control patch
it would be nice for low budget lighting control for rep spaces 
i have looked at the enttec stuff as well as lanbox

anyone else have a working DMX control patch for pd?




 Martin Peach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> David Schaffer wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  
> >Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?  I 
> > never heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward 
> > for the program: being able to deal with sound, video, midi and 
> > lighting control signals would make it a must-have for theaters... 
> > Considering pd's control signals abilities, it shouldn't be too hard 
> > to emulate a lighting board's functions, and also the sound/lighting 
> > interraction could be much deeper. Has anyone thought of this before? 
> > I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there...
> It should be doable with [comport] and an EIA-485 converter on your 
> serial port, _except_ the snag is the baud rate of 25, which is not 
> available on most serial ports.
> For usb, this thing looks good, it already has a pd object:
> http://www.anyma.ch/research/udmx/
> 
> Martin
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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread Patrice Colet
federico a écrit :
>> using [tracker] like a visual matrix.
> 
> heh, it *is* a visual matrix ;)
> 
>>   Also I think more things should be implemented in this way,
>> like some separators, to output also numbers from different
>> successive columns
> 
> I don't think I understand you here... what are separators?
> 
> perhaps you could do something like:
> 
> |get 0 1, get 0 2, get 0 3(
> |
> [tracker]
> 
> or, better:
> 
> |1, 2, 3(
> |
> |get 0 $1(
> |
> [tracker]
> 

That is indeed what I've done in the first patch I've attached.

[25(
|
[until]
|
[counter 0 25]
|
[get 0 $1(

something like this but with another counter for the rows...

I mean by separators, a settable line between rows or columns for 
helping the visual matrix user to get faster to the right number setting.
  eg: in my patch that intend to handle curve3d object I'd be glad if I 
could put a line every three columns for separating each point.

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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread Patrice Colet
Patrice Colet a écrit :
> federico a écrit :

>> I don't think I understand you here... what are separators?

> I mean by separators, a settable line between rows or columns for 
> helping the visual matrix user to get faster to the right number setting.
>  eg: in my patch that intend to handle curve3d object I'd be glad if I 
> could put a line every three columns for separating each point.
> 

ooops,

eg: in my patch that intend to handle curve3d object I'd be glad if I
  could put a line every three columns for separating each point's 3D 
coordinates.


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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread Patrice Colet

federico a écrit :

thanks. fixed in CVS.
I'll post soon a 0.2.3 release to
http://www.puredata.org/Members/federico/externals

It works correctly, I even have the properties window, attached is the 
dll and the tof makefile, thanks to both of you!


current:
echo make pd_linux, pd_win



# --- WINDOWS ---
pd_win: tracker.dll
tracker.dll: tracker.c tracker.h tracker.tk2c

WINPDPATH = /home/pat/pd

.SUFFIXES: .dll

WINCFLAGS = -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -DPD -DNT -W3 -WX -Werror 
-Wno-unused -mms-bitfields -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O6 -funroll-loops 
-fomit-frame-pointer

WININCLUDE =  -I.. -I../include -I$(WINPDPATH)/src

LDFLAGS = -shared

.c.dll:
gcc -mms-bitfields $(WINCFLAGS) $(WININCLUDE) -o $*.o -c $*.c
gcc $(LDFLAGS) -o $*.dll $*.o $(WINPDPATH)/bin/pd.dll   
strip --strip-unneeded $*.dll
rm -f $*.o

# --- LINUX i386 ---

pd_linux: tracker.pd_linux
tracker.pd_linux: tracker.c tracker.h tracker.tk2c

CFLAGS = -DPD -DUNIX -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer \
-Wall -W -Wno-shadow -Wstrict-prototypes \
-Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch \
-I/usr/include -I/home/tom/pd/cvs/pd/src

.SUFFIXES: .pd_linux .tk .tk2c

.tk.tk2c:
sh tk2c.bash < $*.tk > $*.tk2c
.c.pd_linux:
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o $*.o -c $*.c
$(LD) -export_dynamic  -shared -o $*.pd_linux $*.o -lc -lm
strip --strip-unneeded $*.pd_linux
clean:
rm -f *.o *.pd_* so_locations *.tk2c


tracker.dll
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[PD] gemmouse once more

2007-09-23 Thread marius schebella
hi,
I recommended this already once, is it possible to change the behaviour 
of gemmouse?
when given only one argument it makes more sense to normalize to y 
instead of x. I know that this would break some abstractions (esp. pdmtl 
gems.mouse / gems.win) so maybe that means that there has to be an 
additional feature inlet or a new object, that is exactly the same like 
gemmouse, but has this one feature changed.
without that feature mouse interaction in gem is very buggy. and that 
is, because if people resize the windowsize by dragging with mouse, you 
have no information anymore about the windowsize or aspect ratio.
please.
marius.

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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread Patrice Colet

Patrice Colet a écrit :

federico a écrit :

using [tracker] like a visual matrix.

heh, it *is* a visual matrix ;)



|get 0 1, get 0 2, get 0 3(
|
[tracker]


Hello it's me again, I hope I'm not bothering too much with suggestions,
I've attached an example where we can see tracker in action for making 
life easier with gem objects that require an huge amount of input values 
like curve3d.
 It would be so nice to have a bang at a second outlet each time a 
value is modified by the mouse, then it would be possible to 
automatically update the shape and makes life even more easy with those 
gem objects.

Thanks.


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Description: application/puredata
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread Yves Degoyon
'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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>
>  
>
>>This email makes me realize that pd/pd-list is mostly used by male
>>users/subscribers... damn. 
>>
>
>Please, do have in mind that the reason many don't have access to
>sophisticated tools like Pd is because there are not sufficient means of
>mediation/translation/teaching/learning not because of gender speculations
>
>
>  
>
i'm not sure what the subject of this thread is,
if there's not so many women in pd because
the documentation is not clear enough?
isn's that valid for men too?
and should there be a special documentation
aimed at girls?
and also special events and labs for women only?

separating the two is just loosing all the osmosis
and it's really sad to see..

anyway, feel free to contribute and propose
your own documentation.

ciao,
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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread federico
cool patch!
yes, I was thinking to that feature (really I have a TON of features
to put in, if only I would have time)

but my idea is to make everything came out of the same outlet.
you have to route the various status messages yourself, and also route
the data you request

also note that in the last release I added send/receive configurable
in properties, so you don't have to attach [s]/[r] objects anymore

ciao

On 9/23/07, Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello it's me again, I hope I'm not bothering too much with suggestions,
> I've attached an example where we can see tracker in action for making
> life easier with gem objects that require an huge amount of input values
> like curve3d.
>   It would be so nice to have a bang at a second outlet each time a
> value is modified by the mouse, then it would be possible to
> automatically update the shape and makes life even more easy with those
> gem objects.
> Thanks.
>
>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread marius schebella
I think there is a strong momentum coming out of history that technical 
things are for men. if you do not steer against that momentum a little 
bit, then the system will stay in that state of unbalanced injustice.
relying on osmosis, you will have to wait for some generations to get a 
change, which is quite cynical...
marius.

Yves Degoyon wrote:
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> hi
>>> This email makes me realize that pd/pd-list is mostly used by male
>>> users/subscribers... damn. 
>>>
>> Please, do have in mind that the reason many don't have access to
>> sophisticated tools like Pd is because there are not sufficient means of
>> mediation/translation/teaching/learning not because of gender speculations
>>
> i'm not sure what the subject of this thread is,
> if there's not so many women in pd because
> the documentation is not clear enough?
> isn's that valid for men too?
> and should there be a special documentation
> aimed at girls?
> and also special events and labs for women only?
> 
> separating the two is just loosing all the osmosis
> and it's really sad to see..
> 
> anyway, feel free to contribute and propose
> your own documentation.
> 
> ciao,
> sevy
> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GE NERAL DIRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread .·:*¨¨*:·.darsha.·:*¨¨*:·.
Hey dudes,

Just to be clear:  activities at Studio XX are open to guys too.
Come and hang out with us in the new dual boot lab (penguins and
apples for all)!

~D

On 9/23/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think there is a strong momentum coming out of history that technical
> things are for men. if you do not steer against that momentum a little
> bit, then the system will stay in that state of unbalanced injustice.
> relying on osmosis, you will have to wait for some generations to get a
> change, which is quite cynical...
> marius.
>
> Yves Degoyon wrote:
> > '[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> hi
> >>> This email makes me realize that pd/pd-list is mostly used by male
> >>> users/subscribers... damn.
> >>>
> >> Please, do have in mind that the reason many don't have access to
> >> sophisticated tools like Pd is because there are not sufficient means of
> >> mediation/translation/teaching/learning not because of gender speculations
> >>
> > i'm not sure what the subject of this thread is,
> > if there's not so many women in pd because
> > the documentation is not clear enough?
> > isn's that valid for men too?
> > and should there be a special documentation
> > aimed at girls?
> > and also special events and labs for women only?
> >
> > separating the two is just loosing all the osmosis
> > and it's really sad to see..
> >
> > anyway, feel free to contribute and propose
> > your own documentation.
> >
> > ciao,
> > sevy
> >
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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-23 Thread David Kirkpatrick
Hey,

I've developed an external with Adrian Taylor called dmxsend. It sends to 
the the Enttech DMX USB Pro. Feel free to email me for a copy. It's Windows 
only (.dll) seeings thats the OS I usually use, but anyone who wants to is 
free to try and get it to work on Linux or OSX.

David Kirkpatrick


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>CC: pd list 
>Subject: Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?
>Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:24:52 -0400
>i would be interested in helping out or working on a virtual DMX control 
>patch
>it would be nice for low budget lighting control for rep spaces
>i have looked at the enttec stuff as well as lanbox
>
>anyone else have a working DMX control patch for pd?

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[PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


Miller wrote:

This is why I'm thinking about what I call the nuclear option: 
separating all text into separate lines


It's like the Québécois nucular family blowing up. It's proof that QC has 
WMD. Jean Crétin once said: «Pourquoi acheter des carabines à répétition 
et de l'armement nucléaire pour s'amuser? C'est dangereux! Et quand c'est 
dans la maison, bien il peut y avoir un enfant qui se sert de ça, ...» 
(http://www.mef.qc.ca/audio/10vag.wav). Nowadays in QC, couples prevent 
divorce by simply not getting married 
(http://www.ledevoir.com/2007/09/13/156634.html).


and controlling the vertical spacing from within Pd.  I don't wanna do 
it, but it might be the only way out.


Out of what?... first define what you are trapped into. You are not bound 
to Courier fonts any more than you are strapped to a typewriter.


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Re: [PD] scale from maxlib - undocumented feature

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, João Miguel Pais wrote:


I just found out that if a list is sent to a |scale|, all values after the
1st substitute the parameters. The result will be the scaling of the 1st
number, but already with the new parameters.
Is this intentional, or was it a lucky effect? Maybe it would be better to
update the documentation?


Think of [scale] being made of two parts:

[pack 0 0 0 0 0]
 |
[the_rest]

so, scale is a 5-inlet packlike class.

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[PD] pidip compilation with quicktime fails

2007-09-23 Thread marc
hi list

after reinstalling ubuntu feisty own my computer i made a reinstall  
from pidip from source. i need it from source as slightly changed  
ctrack to fit my needs.

i can compile pidip but when i start pd with the pidip library i get  
the following error:

PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-test-7
./pidip.pd_linux: ./pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close
pidip: can't load library

configure give me:
checking for lqt_decode_video in -lquicktime... yes
qt version minor : 7

this is the first time since months that i run into compilation  
problem with pidip, i do not really understand why as configure runs  
through every check smoothly. i use libquicktime from ubuntu  
repository, i even compiled it from source myself, no change.

any ideas???

every hint is welcome.

all the best
marc


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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread Patrice Colet

federico a écrit :
> cool patch!
Thanks!
> yes, I was thinking to that feature (really I have a TON of features
> to put in, if only I would have time)
  then let me suggest one thing if you have time, :D,
I'm actually trying to had interpolations between values, it might be 
actually made with some list magicks...
  But it's actually very difficult for me to find a solution for list 
interpolation, Frank?
  My suggestion is about having the possibility of interpolating each 
values when a change has been done with [setrow( [set( the mouse, and 
file loading, I guess that won't be easy ;)

> 
> but my idea is to make everything came out of the same outlet.
> you have to route the various status messages yourself, and also route
> the data you request

Okay, no problemo.

> also note that in the last release I added send/receive configurable
> in properties, so you don't have to attach [s]/[r] objects anymore

very good!
I was expecting to have this in creation arguments, like
[tracker 10 10 $0-trk]
but it's not implemented apparently,
even worse,
if I put [tracker $0-trk] itracker is simply not created,
if I put [tracker 10 10] it crashes pd!

> ciao
> 
> On 9/23/07, Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello it's me again, I hope I'm not bothering too much with suggestions,
>> I've attached an example where we can see tracker in action for making
>> life easier with gem objects that require an huge amount of input values
>> like curve3d.
>>   It would be so nice to have a bang at a second outlet each time a
>> value is modified by the mouse, then it would be possible to
>> automatically update the shape and makes life even more easy with those
>> gem objects.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>


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Re: [PD] pidip compilation with quicktime fails

2007-09-23 Thread ydegoyon
hola,

the problem here is that PDP is compiled
_without_ quicktime support,
so check PDP configure script
to see what is going wrong..

if you installed libquicktime from sources,
it should find it.

suerte,
sevy

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> hi list
>
> after reinstalling ubuntu feisty own my computer i made a reinstall
> from pidip from source. i need it from source as slightly changed
> ctrack to fit my needs.
>
> i can compile pidip but when i start pd with the pidip library i get
> the following error:
>
> PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-test-7
> ./pidip.pd_linux: ./pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close
> pidip: can't load library
>
> configure give me:
> checking for lqt_decode_video in -lquicktime... yes
> qt version minor : 7
>
> this is the first time since months that i run into compilation
> problem with pidip, i do not really understand why as configure runs
> through every check smoothly. i use libquicktime from ubuntu
> repository, i even compiled it from source myself, no change.
>
> any ideas???
>
> every hint is welcome.
>
> all the best
> marc
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, .·:*¨¨*:·.darsha.·:*¨¨*:·.  wrote:


Just to be clear:  activities at Studio XX are open to guys too.
Come and hang out with us in the new dual boot lab (penguins and
apples for all)!


But if places are limited and additional women want to register, don't 
they unregister the guys?


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GE NERAL DIRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread .·:*¨¨*:·.darsha.·:*¨¨*:·.
Never heard of that before.

On 9/23/07, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, .·:*¨¨*:·.darsha.·:*¨¨*:·.  wrote:
>
> > Just to be clear:  activities at Studio XX are open to guys too.
> > Come and hang out with us in the new dual boot lab (penguins and
> > apples for all)!
>
> But if places are limited and additional women want to register, don't
> they unregister the guys?
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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi federico

nice looking tracker (nice because it looks so plain). there are two
issues, i found yet:

- dragging a number behaves differently from pd's gui. for any gui in pd
the change  is bound to the movement of the mouse, regardless, how fast
you drag. in your tracker, when changing a certain value, the changing
gets slower the faster you drag the mouse, which is a bit odd. it seems
like only mouse movements of +/-1 px from last screen tick to the actual
tick are taken into account. faster movements are just ignored.

- the numbers are left-aligned. i think, it would make more sense to
right-aligne them, since they are numnbers. 

On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 18:03 +0200, federico wrote:
> cool patch!
> yes, I was thinking to that feature (really I have a TON of features
> to put in, if only I would have time)
> 
> but my idea is to make everything came out of the same outlet.
> you have to route the various status messages yourself, and also route
> the data you request

i think, this is the most flexible way to do it. also it makes possible
to decide, whether update data should be taken into account or not. 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This email makes me realize that pd/pd-list is mostly used by male
users/subscribers... damn. I'm mostly interested in showing girls how pd
works and how cool it is. Interested ladys ? (:

I think many women in this list would just ignore your comment ;)
Please, do have in mind that the reason many don't have access to
sophisticated tools like Pd is because there are not sufficient means of
mediation/translation/teaching/learning not because of gender speculations


I can't make sense of this at all. We're talking about the woman/people 
ratio in the pd community. If you talk about something gender-independent, 
it ought to not change the ratio. So we're not talking about 
gender-independent things here (though perhaps we talk about things that 
we wish would be gender-independent...)


So are you saying that women have less knowledge of English, or that women 
have trouble learning outside of a teacher-student relationship, or that 
women think that they deserve mature documentation before they even start 
learning, or that women are less persistent, or that they are not 
motivated to get into that discipline because... I don't know. You will 
tell us what it is like.


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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, federico wrote:


perhaps you could do something like:

|get 0 1, get 0 2, get 0 3(
|
[tracker]


With GridFlow's [#store], you would read values like this:

|0 1, 0 2, 0 3(
 |
[#store]

And if you want to combine all three outputs in one, you can do:

|3 2 # 0 1 0 2 0 3(
 |
[#store]

which reads as "3 lists of 2 numbers, which are: 0 1 0 2 0 3"

If a "single output" is already a list of N numbers, three outputs in one 
will be a list of 3 lists of N numbers each, i.e. a "3 N # ..."


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, .·:*¨¨*:·.darsha.·:*¨¨*:·.  wrote:

On 9/23/07, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

But if places are limited and additional women want to register, don't
they unregister the guys?

Never heard of that before.


I'll have to double-check, but I'm pretty sure I heard that two or three 
years ago or so. Maybe it was just a bad rumour, who knows. But if it were 
true, it wouldn't quite surprise me: after all, Patrice Coulombe, the 
long-time MAX/MSP teacher of StudioXX, is not on the page labeled 
"instructrices", and neither is Michal Seta, and it's not like there is 
any equivalent page for male instructors either. OTOH, the "Coordonnées" 
page doesn't give the same impression (but that latter page is not about 
instructors at all).


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[PD] Opening a PD patch on Startup in OSX

2007-09-23 Thread Stuart Jones
Hi All

I have a patch running an installation on a Mac laptop running 10.4.9. The
laptop is scheduled to shut down at night and start up in the morning. The
PD patch is on the desktop with a folder containing samples it is
controlling, and there's nothing else on the desktop except the hard drive.
>From time to time when it starts the computer goes to the finder after
opening the patch; this seems to be completely random and happens about one
start up in 5. Does anybody have an explanation? And a way of getting round
this problem? It needs to be fail safe as I'm not around during the run of
the installation.

Thanks

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Re: [PD] pidip compilation with quicktime fails

2007-09-23 Thread bigswift
i had a great deal of problems with a new ubuntu install and pidip. I found 
that no matter what the films i were using were all "green" usually meaning a 
bad codec and finally rolled back a bit. I also tested sahabuntu with success.

pp

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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> 
> after reinstalling ubuntu feisty own my computer i made a reinstall  
> from pidip from source. i need it from source as slightly changed  
> ctrack to fit my needs.
> 
> i can compile pidip but when i start pd with the pidip library i get  
> the following error:
> 
> PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-test-7
> ./pidip.pd_linux: ./pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close
> pidip: can't load library
> 
> configure give me:
> checking for lqt_decode_video in -lquicktime... yes
> qt version minor : 7
> 
> this is the first time since months that i run into compilation  
> problem with pidip, i do not really understand why as configure runs  
> through every check smoothly. i use libquicktime from ubuntu  
> repository, i even compiled it from source myself, no change.
> 
> any ideas???
> 
> every hint is welcome.
> 
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Re: [PD] pidip compilation with quicktime fails

2007-09-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Try the latest Pd-extended packages, PiDiP works on every Mac OS X  
and GNU/Linux machine I've tried with those packages (included 20+  
Ubuntu Feisty machines):

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc

On Sep 23, 2007, at 12:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi list
>
> after reinstalling ubuntu feisty own my computer i made a reinstall
> from pidip from source. i need it from source as slightly changed
> ctrack to fit my needs.
>
> i can compile pidip but when i start pd with the pidip library i get
> the following error:
>
> PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-test-7
> ./pidip.pd_linux: ./pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close
> pidip: can't load library
>
> configure give me:
> checking for lqt_decode_video in -lquicktime... yes
> qt version minor : 7
>
> this is the first time since months that i run into compilation
> problem with pidip, i do not really understand why as configure runs
> through every check smoothly. i use libquicktime from ubuntu
> repository, i even compiled it from source myself, no change.
>
> any ideas???
>
> every hint is welcome.
>
> all the best
> marc
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread pueblo

>>
> i'm not sure what the subject of this thread is,
> if there's not so many women in pd because
> the documentation is not clear enough?
> isn's that valid for men too?

yes is basically valid for all people that are not white males or in other
words for all the people that have different cognitive styles than the
dominant western white model.

> and should there be a special documentation
> aimed at girls?
> and also special events and labs for women only?

not really, Jerome is actually right because pd is a cool thing to share.
i just ask not to trivialise words and subjects and to say the truth,
there are actually many women doing free software and pd but perhaps we
are not so verbose.

> anyway, feel free to contribute and propose
> your own documentation.

my own documentation? no way, I first need to learn pd ;-)
but I´m going through 'learning pd' thread and pddp folks work also the
documentation of pidip they do at hangar.org . It will take time but
thanks for the invitation

> ciao,
> sevy

chao,
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Re: [PD] pidip compilation with quicktime fails

2007-09-23 Thread Marc Widmer [metafor]
hi list

actually yves was wright, i just compiled pdp not really properly. 
everything works fine now.
thanks a lot.

nice sunday evening to everybody
marc

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
>
> Try the latest Pd-extended packages, PiDiP works on every Mac OS X and 
> GNU/Linux machine I've tried with those packages (included 20+ Ubuntu 
> Feisty machines):
>
> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
>
> .hc
>
> On Sep 23, 2007, at 12:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> hi list
>>
>> after reinstalling ubuntu feisty own my computer i made a reinstall
>> from pidip from source. i need it from source as slightly changed
>> ctrack to fit my needs.
>>
>> i can compile pidip but when i start pd with the pidip library i get
>> the following error:
>>
>> PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-test-7
>> ./pidip.pd_linux: ./pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close
>> pidip: can't load library
>>
>> configure give me:
>> checking for lqt_decode_video in -lquicktime... yes
>> qt version minor : 7
>>
>> this is the first time since months that i run into compilation
>> problem with pidip, i do not really understand why as configure runs
>> through every check smoothly. i use libquicktime from ubuntu
>> repository, i even compiled it from source myself, no change.
>>
>> any ideas???
>>
>> every hint is welcome.
>>
>> all the best
>> marc
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread Andy Farnell



I find these remarks and attitudes offensive. Sexism and racism have no
place here. 


On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:49:30 +0200 (CEST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> >>
> > i'm not sure what the subject of this thread is,
> > if there's not so many women in pd because
> > the documentation is not clear enough?
> > isn's that valid for men too?
> 
> yes is basically valid for all people that are not white males or in other
> words for all the people that have different cognitive styles than the
> dominant western white model.
> 
> > and should there be a special documentation
> > aimed at girls?
> > and also special events and labs for women only?
> 
> not really, Jerome is actually right because pd is a cool thing to share.
> i just ask not to trivialise words and subjects and to say the truth,
> there are actually many women doing free software and pd but perhaps we
> are not so verbose.
> 
> > anyway, feel free to contribute and propose
> > your own documentation.
> 
> my own documentation? no way, I first need to learn pd ;-)
> but I´m going through 'learning pd' thread and pddp folks work also the
> documentation of pidip they do at hangar.org . It will take time but
> thanks for the invitation
> 
> > ciao,
> > sevy
> 
> chao,
> alejandra
> 
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Re: [PD] pidip compilation with quicktime fails

2007-09-23 Thread Marc Widmer [metafor]
hi list

actually yves was wright, i just compiled pdp not really properly. 
everything works fine now.
thanks a lot.

nice sunday evening to everybody
marc

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
>
> Try the latest Pd-extended packages, PiDiP works on every Mac OS X and 
> GNU/Linux machine I've tried with those packages (included 20+ Ubuntu 
> Feisty machines):
>
> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
>
> .hc
>
> On Sep 23, 2007, at 12:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> hi list
>>
>> after reinstalling ubuntu feisty own my computer i made a reinstall
>> from pidip from source. i need it from source as slightly changed
>> ctrack to fit my needs.
>>
>> i can compile pidip but when i start pd with the pidip library i get
>> the following error:
>>
>> PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-test-7
>> ./pidip.pd_linux: ./pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close
>> pidip: can't load library
>>
>> configure give me:
>> checking for lqt_decode_video in -lquicktime... yes
>> qt version minor : 7
>>
>> this is the first time since months that i run into compilation
>> problem with pidip, i do not really understand why as configure runs
>> through every check smoothly. i use libquicktime from ubuntu
>> repository, i even compiled it from source myself, no change.
>>
>> any ideas???
>>
>> every hint is welcome.
>>
>> all the best
>> marc
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread marius schebella
Andy Farnell wrote:
> I find these remarks and attitudes offensive. Sexism and racism have no
> place here. 

???
marius.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

yes is basically valid for all people that are not white males or in 
other words for all the people that have different cognitive styles than 
the dominant western white model.


I can fetch you quite a few women and/or arabic or latino or whatever you 
want, who are perfectly comfortable with so-called western white male 
cognitive style, that they themselves are profs holding doctorates.


Meanwhile, when I was in university, I could hardly focus, I had a 
wandering mind, a tendency to nap in the classroom, trouble actually 
getting myself to attend classes, and most of all, I was much more 
concerned by knowledge in general than by actual grades, and by 
cross-course reasonings than by sticking to one course's assumptions and 
biases and blind-spots and to whatever the prof says.


Meanwhile, the often-reported fact is that girls score better in schools 
and you have magazine reports on what's the matter with the boys in 
schools because they underperform and fail so much.


19-year-old undergraduates in QC are 40% male, 60% female (figures of 
2003, published in 2007).


A decade ago, for undergraduates regardless of age: In 
Medicine/Dentistry/etc (grouped together) it was 77% female. In 
Litterature it was 72%, in Biology it was 58%, in Chemistry 44%, and in 
Math 40%, just to give a few examples. The report I have doesn't say the 
figure for Psychology, but looking at "Class of 2004"-type portraits of 
UdeM it is obviously around 95%.


So I don't quite think that the main dividing lines in education 
methodologies are at all involving gender issues. Women seem happier in 
the current school system than men are.


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Re: [PD] Opening a PD patch on Startup in OSX

2007-09-23 Thread Greg Pond
I dont know how you have set this to work on your machine but I have
set my gallery installs on mac os x 10.4 systems to autostart by doing
the following:

1. setting the "open at login" option for PD from the dock

2. setting the start up path in "start up flags" box within
preferences>startup menu

I havent encountered the problem that you have but I dont shutdown my
machines at night. Is there some reason you need to?

Here are two simple ways I have used that might work instead ( I dont
know what you are running with PD ( gem, etc...) but they could be
modified to suit:

1. use a 24 hour clock patch ( really just a resetting counter and is
attached) that turns the DSP ( or whatever is appropriate ) on/off or
closes and opens the other patch at certain times instead of
restarting entire computer

2. use an arduino and a light sensor to turn off the DSP when the
lights are shut off at night



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> Hi All
>
> I have a patch running an installation on a Mac laptop running 10.4.9. The
> laptop is scheduled to shut down at night and start up in the morning. The
> PD patch is on the desktop with a folder containing samples it is
> controlling, and there's nothing else on the desktop except the hard drive.
> From time to time when it starts the computer goes to the finder after
> opening the patch; this seems to be completely random and happens about one
> start up in 5. Does anybody have an explanation? And a way of getting round
> this problem? It needs to be fail safe as I'm not around during the run of
> the installation.
>
> Thanks
>
> Stuart
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Re: [PD] icosahedron for GEM

2007-09-23 Thread bigswift
that is what i did

thanks

pp


 cyrille henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> make a isocahedron.obj (with bender, wings3d, or google)
> use it with the [model] object.
> 
> cyrille
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > is there a icosahedron in GEM?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [PD] Gem Library issue (permissions??)

2007-09-23 Thread eric labelle
Wow ... looks like either no one cares or I've stumped you all.

Either way my software still doesn't work and any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Thanks again,

Eric

2007/9/22, eric labelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been digging through the archives of the mailing list trying to find
> more info on this problem I'm having getting Gem to load but I can't find
> anything promising so at the risk of being told to RTFM I'm turning to you
> guys for help.
>
> I installed the CCRMA gem package on Fedora Core 6 and everything went
> great but when I run pd -lib Gem as root or as a regular user the program
> boots and I get the following message in the console:
>
> /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux: /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec- 0.7.so.0:
> cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied
> Gem: can't load library
>
> Anybody got any pointers as to what this might be? Like I said I even
> tried running the command as root thinking it might just be the permissions
> on the library.
>
> Sorry I'm still new to all this, thanks!
>
> Eric
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [Studio XX] OFFRE D'E MPLOI : DIRECTRICE GÉNÉRALE :: JOB : GENERAL D IRECTOR

2007-09-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Well, one difference that I have noticed in my years is that men are  
much less supportive and enabling in communities than women, and men  
tend to be more confrontational.  I don't know why, it could be  
cultural, upbringing, genetics, biology, whatever.  I'd like to see  
that change because I think everyone will benefit.

I think this thread more or less illustrates the disparity.  :D

That's my two bits...

.hc

On Sep 23, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> yes is basically valid for all people that are not white males or  
>> in other words for all the people that have different cognitive  
>> styles than the dominant western white model.
>
> I can fetch you quite a few women and/or arabic or latino or  
> whatever you want, who are perfectly comfortable with so-called  
> western white male cognitive style, that they themselves are profs  
> holding doctorates.
>
> Meanwhile, when I was in university, I could hardly focus, I had a  
> wandering mind, a tendency to nap in the classroom, trouble  
> actually getting myself to attend classes, and most of all, I was  
> much more concerned by knowledge in general than by actual grades,  
> and by cross-course reasonings than by sticking to one course's  
> assumptions and biases and blind-spots and to whatever the prof says.
>
> Meanwhile, the often-reported fact is that girls score better in  
> schools and you have magazine reports on what's the matter with the  
> boys in schools because they underperform and fail so much.
>
> 19-year-old undergraduates in QC are 40% male, 60% female (figures  
> of 2003, published in 2007).
>
> A decade ago, for undergraduates regardless of age: In Medicine/ 
> Dentistry/etc (grouped together) it was 77% female. In Litterature  
> it was 72%, in Biology it was 58%, in Chemistry 44%, and in Math  
> 40%, just to give a few examples. The report I have doesn't say the  
> figure for Psychology, but looking at "Class of 2004"-type  
> portraits of UdeM it is obviously around 95%.
>
> So I don't quite think that the main dividing lines in education  
> methodologies are at all involving gender issues. Women seem  
> happier in the current school system than men are.
>
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[PD] Command line-magic for PDP-compatibliness?

2007-09-23 Thread Martin Ahnelöv
Hi!
I'm fiddling around a bit with PDP, and it's great! Just one thing: How
can I convert my non-mov videos to a pdp_qt-compatible format with a
linux-based tool? I've tried, like, all codecs I could think of in
ffmpeg without any succes. How do you do it?

Gasten


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Re: [PD] [ANN] new external: tracker

2007-09-23 Thread federico
On 9/23/07, Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was expecting to have this in creation arguments, like
> [tracker 10 10 $0-trk]
> but it's not implemented apparently,
> even worse,
> if I put [tracker $0-trk] itracker is simply not created,
> if I put [tracker 10 10] it crashes pd!

you should have a look at one pd file that you saved with a [tracker] in it.
anyway those option are (obviously) available.

you can instantiate tracker as follows:

[tracker -send sendsymbol -recv recvsymbol -rows 16 -cols 7]

or

[tracker -data 2 3 1 2 3 4 5 6]

options are Tk like, so they are backward/forward compatible and don't
rely on order :)

ciao
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