[PD] pyext and canvas_getcurrentdir()
Hi all, Does pyext offer Python bindings for functions like canvas_getcurrentdir() from m_pd.h? I looked at the source code and noticed that pyext appends the current directory to the Python search path, so that I get the current directory via sys.path[-1]. I'm a little worried, though, that this behavior may change in a future revision of pyext. Best, Peter ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vowel recognition
moin Marius, moin list, sorry, haven't tried it yet -- i'm more interested in getting funny noises out of pd than into it ;-) Maybe Andy Farnell has done something along these lines? Speculating wildly (e.g. without any experience in vowel detection), I think [fiddle~] probably won't work on its own: it's designed to detect the fundamental frequency (f0), whereas vowels will differ primarily in the formants: maybe an fft approach would work? or perhaps you could have several instances of [fiddle~], tweaking the parameters such that each detects a single formant? ... just wild speculation ... marmosets, Bryan On 2008-03-11 00:35:42, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: hi, I wonder if anyone did vowel recognition with Pd. Maybe ed kelly? or brian j.? can it be based on fiddle~ or does it neeed more/other objects/technology? marius. -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vowel recognition
Hallo! I wonder if anyone did vowel recognition with Pd. AFAIK no. I added speech recognition for the GSoC projects some day ago: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/SpeechRecognitionForPD So you could try to use SPHINX or HTK. E.g. look at this tutorial: http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/tutorial.html. LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
Works for me on WinXP. You'll need to provide more info if you want hlep. i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but then lots of objects don't work, e.g. niagara or glue... mirko .hc On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: hi list, again i've installed pd-ext: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3- extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy. is there no chance...? greets, mirko -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pyext and canvas_getcurrentdir()
Hi Peter, Am 11.03.2008 um 08:57 schrieb Peter Brinkmann: Does pyext offer Python bindings for functions like canvas_getcurrentdir() from m_pd.h? currently it doesn't, but i'll see if i can add it I looked at the source code and noticed that pyext appends the current directory to the Python search path, so that I get the current directory via sys.path[-1]. I'm a little worried, though, that this behavior may change in a future revision of pyext. You are right... it's not a good idea to rely on that, also because any other Python script in the same process changing the path will interfere with this assumption. gr~~~ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] which version of pd do i have installed?
Roman Haefeli wrote: yo this might sound silly (and you guys most likely don't care, what version _i_ have installed). however, the 'menu - help - About Pd' tells me: Pd version 0.40.3 for magical reasons this is usually correct. when i load [version] from hcs, it gives me: 0 41 0 test06 Dec 7 2007 03:24:18 version is actually broken in the implementation, as it reports the version of Pd the object was _compiled_ against, not the one it is running in. this is done because it is easy to find out the version of pd at compile time, but not so easy at runtime. the likely argument is, that you should run pd-extended and use the version in there, which will (hopefully) be compiled against the same version as it is running in. when i load hexloader, which i just compiled, i get: hex loader $Revision: 1.5 $ written by IOhannes m zm�nig, IEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 11 2008 at 11:03:15 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3. again, this version-number tells you only the version of Pd the hexloader was compiled against. it has nothing to do with the version of Pd you are actually running. aaah, and now i realized, that there is simply 'pd -version', which also gives me: Pd version 0.40-3 compiled 06:47:02 Nov 28 2007 this is the one that can be trusted most. fmgas.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] which version of pd do i have installed?
yo this might sound silly (and you guys most likely don't care, what version _i_ have installed). however, the 'menu - help - About Pd' tells me: Pd version 0.40.3 when i load [version] from hcs, it gives me: 0 41 0 test06 Dec 7 2007 03:24:18 when i load hexloader, which i just compiled, i get: hex loader $Revision: 1.5 $ written by IOhannes m zm�nig, IEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 11 2008 at 11:03:15 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3. aaah, and now i realized, that there is simply 'pd -version', which also gives me: Pd version 0.40-3 compiled 06:47:02 Nov 28 2007 yo.. seems like [version] is buggy, if 'pd -version' can be trusted. roman ___ Der fr�he Vogel f�ngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] which version of pd do i have installed?
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 11:27 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hex loader $Revision: 1.5 $ written by IOhannes m zm�nig, IEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 11 2008 at 11:03:15 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3. again, this version-number tells you only the version of Pd the hexloader was compiled against. it has nothing to do with the version of Pd you are actually running. but then, something seems to be unkosher with [hexloader]. i definitely had 0.41 in my pd sources, while i compiled hexloader, while pd 0.40.3 was installed. shouldn't [hexloader] print compiled against Pd version 0.41.1. then? roman ___ Der fr�he Vogel f�ngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] no 0.41.1 extended debian testing in autobuild
hi, there doesn't seem to have been a extended debian testing .deb created in autobuild since 20080307 Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-07/Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb is there a good reason for this or is something broken thanks rob c ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] which version of pd do i have installed?
Roman Haefeli wrote: but then, something seems to be unkosher with [hexloader]. i definitely had 0.41 in my pd sources, while i compiled hexloader, while pd 0.40.3 was installed. shouldn't [hexloader] print compiled against Pd version 0.41.1. it will do so. the mechanism is rather straightforward (it's the same as [version] uses): include m_pd.h where PD_MAJOR_VERSION, PD_MINOR_VERSION (et al.) are defined and use these defines for the version-string. probably you only thought that you compiled hexloader against 0.41.1, while in reality it was including the m_pd.h it found (e.g.) in /usr/local/include. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
We should keep this on the list, so I cc'ed it. Try this: [zexy/niagara] [zexy/glue] .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: Works for me on WinXP. You'll need to provide more info if you want hlep. i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but then lots of objects don't work, e.g. niagara or glue... mirko .hc On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: hi list, again i've installed pd-ext: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3- extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy. is there no chance...? greets, mirko -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] call for mentors for Google Summer of Code
Hey, We need mentors for the Google Summer of Code! We've had some volunteers, more would be better. As a mentor, first off, you will be reviewing the submitted projects, ranking them, and ultimately choosing which ones get funded. Then if you have a student project assigned to you, you will help them complete the project by answering questions, offering advice, etc. You do not need to be a core developer to be a mentor, you just need to have a specific expertise in Pd things. You get to directly help students scratch itches that have been bugging you for a long time. Especially if they're itches that are really fun or would have a powerful impact. Plus you get that feel good feeling from helping out someone else. You will be directly involved in fostering the next generation of Pd developers. What I need now are Gmail email accounts from anyone who might want to be a mentor. (It's google, so it MUST be a gmail account : ( Please send them to me now, since the deadline is tomorrow. :) .hc ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GSoC Organization App 2008 wiki page
Hey all, I decided to stick up a wiki page for this GSoC organization application. Then everyone can see it, contribute to it, and find it next year when we want to raid it for text for the next application :) http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008 Feel free to add anything to it, whether it be paragraphs or bullet points. Then I put the whole thing together to submit tomorrow. .hc News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
In fact, No chance for me either. When I try to instantiate [glue] or [zexy/glue]. On WinXP SP2. Console output at startup says : libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 10 2008 at 06:15:49 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080310 Gem: can't load library libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath libdir_loader: added zexy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added creb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added cxc to the global classpath libdir_loader: added iemlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added list-abs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mapping to the global classpath libdir_loader: added markex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added maxlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added memento to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mjlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added motex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added oscx to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pddp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pdogg to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pixeltango to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pmpd to the global classpath libdir_loader: added rradical to the global classpath libdir_loader: added sigpack to the global classpath libdir_loader: added smlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added toxy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added unauthorized to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pan to the global classpath libdir_loader: added freeverb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hcs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added jmmmp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ext13 to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hardware to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ggee to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ekext to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flatspace to the global classpath libdir_loader: added deprecated to the global classpath But when I try to instantiate any zexy object (be it with [drip] or [zexy/drip]) : C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create I haven't been using pd in windows for long but now I'd like to for some reasons and I'm not very confident with the behavior of pd-extended. What is the libdir loader ? Where can I find info on pd-extended's way of loading externals/adding paths... ? ++ Jé Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : We should keep this on the list, so I cc'ed it. Try this: [zexy/niagara] [zexy/glue] .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: Works for me on WinXP. You'll need to provide more info if you want hlep. i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but then lots of objects don't work, e.g. niagara or glue... mirko .hc On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: hi list, again i've installed pd-ext: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3- extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy. is there no chance...? greets, mirko -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pyext and canvas_getcurrentdir()
Hi Thomas, Thanks for your reply! Does pyext offer Python bindings for functions like canvas_getcurrentdir() from m_pd.h? currently it doesn't, but i'll see if i can add it That would be great. Not to seem greedy, but there are a few more functions in there that would be good to have, such as canvas_dspstate(). In addition (and almost more importantly), I would like to have pyext set the working directory of the Python interpreter to canvas_getcurrentdir() upon initialization. Best, Peter ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pyext and canvas_getcurrentdir()
Peter Brinkmann schrieb: That would be great. Not to seem greedy, but there are a few more functions in there that would be good to have, such as canvas_dspstate(). Probably, i'll see what's possible. In addition (and almost more importantly), I would like to have pyext set the working directory of the Python interpreter to canvas_getcurrentdir() upon initialization. The problem is that there is only one interpreter per process and there can be multiple py/pyext instances, hence your wish can't be fulfilled. gr~~~ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
Does this file actually exist in this location? C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create Try deleting C:\Program Files\pd and reinstalling Pd-extended. I've never seen anything like this, it works on all the machines I've tried. .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Jerome Tuncer wrote: In fact, No chance for me either. When I try to instantiate [glue] or [zexy/glue]. On WinXP SP2. Console output at startup says : libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 10 2008 at 06:15:49 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080310 Gem: can't load library libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath libdir_loader: added zexy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added creb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added cxc to the global classpath libdir_loader: added iemlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added list-abs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mapping to the global classpath libdir_loader: added markex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added maxlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added memento to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mjlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added motex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added oscx to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pddp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pdogg to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pixeltango to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pmpd to the global classpath libdir_loader: added rradical to the global classpath libdir_loader: added sigpack to the global classpath libdir_loader: added smlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added toxy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added unauthorized to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pan to the global classpath libdir_loader: added freeverb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hcs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added jmmmp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ext13 to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hardware to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ggee to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ekext to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flatspace to the global classpath libdir_loader: added deprecated to the global classpath But when I try to instantiate any zexy object (be it with [drip] or [zexy/drip]) : C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create I haven't been using pd in windows for long but now I'd like to for some reasons and I'm not very confident with the behavior of pd-extended. What is the libdir loader ? Where can I find info on pd-extended's way of loading externals/adding paths... ? ++ Jé Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : We should keep this on the list, so I cc'ed it. Try this: [zexy/niagara] [zexy/glue] .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: Works for me on WinXP. You'll need to provide more info if you want hlep. i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but then lots of objects don't work, e.g. niagara or glue... mirko .hc On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: hi list, again i've installed pd-ext: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3- extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy. is there no chance...? greets, mirko -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- -- --- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - --- 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
[PD] pulling inverse values from timer
Hello all, I may be going about this all wrong, so please tell me if there is a better solution to my query. I am building a patch that, among other things, returns the time between two bangs using the timer object. What I need to happen is this: if a short amount of time passes the number that is output is a large one and the inverse, if a lot of time passes, a small number is output. I have searched around quite a bit, but as I am not sure what I am trying to accomplish would be called, I haven't had great luck finding anything. any suggestions? alternate ideas I could try? thanks much. - Ben C. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] which version of pd do i have installed?
On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:27 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: yo this might sound silly (and you guys most likely don't care, what version _i_ have installed). however, the 'menu - help - About Pd' tells me: Pd version 0.40.3 for magical reasons this is usually correct. when i load [version] from hcs, it gives me: 0 41 0 test06 Dec 7 2007 03:24:18 version is actually broken in the implementation, as it reports the version of Pd the object was _compiled_ against, not the one it is running in. this is done because it is easy to find out the version of pd at compile time, but not so easy at runtime. the likely argument is, that you should run pd-extended and use the version in there, which will (hopefully) be compiled against the same version as it is running in. [version] is a quick hack. Ideally it would get the version of the running Pd. I suppose there could be a function in Pd that returned the version. Patches welcome :) .hc when i load hexloader, which i just compiled, i get: hex loader $Revision: 1.5 $ written by IOhannes m zm�nig, IEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 11 2008 at 11:03:15 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3. again, this version-number tells you only the version of Pd the hexloader was compiled against. it has nothing to do with the version of Pd you are actually running. aaah, and now i realized, that there is simply 'pd -version', which also gives me: Pd version 0.40-3 compiled 06:47:02 Nov 28 2007 this is the one that can be trusted most. fmgas.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pyext and canvas_getcurrentdir()
Hi all, I don't think it makes sense to have python's CWD follow that of the patch - what if there are two patches in different directories? It's probably better to make things explicit via canvas_getcurrentdir(). cheers Miller On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:42:33AM -0400, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Hi Thomas, Thanks for your reply! Does pyext offer Python bindings for functions like canvas_getcurrentdir() from m_pd.h? currently it doesn't, but i'll see if i can add it That would be great. Not to seem greedy, but there are a few more functions in there that would be good to have, such as canvas_dspstate(). In addition (and almost more importantly), I would like to have pyext set the working directory of the Python interpreter to canvas_getcurrentdir() upon initialization. Best, Peter ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no 0.41.1 extended debian testing in autobuild
You can check the build log to find out, there is a build log for each build. It will be there if the build ran. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-11/logs/ 2008-03-11_06.29.54_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run- automated-builder.txt Usually it's because something got broken. You can politely poke whoever broke it, so that it gets fixed :) .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:00 AM, robcanning wrote: hi, there doesn't seem to have been a extended debian testing .deb created in autobuild since 20080307 Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb http:// autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-07/Pd-0.41.1- extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb is there a good reason for this or is something broken thanks rob c Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] NRCI - Networked Resources for Collaborative Improvisation
Hey all, Just wanted to post a link to a project I've been co-developing for a while now. NRCI is a set of PD abstractions to allow for sharing control data over a standard TCP/IP network. It's been designed for MiLO, the Milwaukee Laptop Orchestra. Thought people might be interested, and I'm anxious for any suggestions or comments! Here's the link http://ccrma.stanford.edu/%7Ecburns/NRCI/. Thanks! -Greg Surges -- http://www.uwm.edu/~gssurges/ http://www.uwm.edu/%7Egssurges/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NRCI - Networked Resources for Collaborative Improvisation
hi greg, that looks very promising, but can you give an example of how to use it, the page you posted says NRCI documentation: [link to be added]... thnks, marius. Greg Surges wrote: Hey all, Just wanted to post a link to a project I've been co-developing for a while now. NRCI is a set of PD abstractions to allow for sharing control data over a standard TCP/IP network. It's been designed for MiLO, the Milwaukee Laptop Orchestra. Thought people might be interested, and I'm anxious for any suggestions or comments! Here's the link http://ccrma.stanford.edu/%7Ecburns/NRCI/. Thanks! -Greg Surges ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] ARToolkit and libqrencode for Gem
I just found these download on the page of Shigeyuki Hirai, who does the Max/MSP port of Gem. He has two interesting objects that shouldn't be to hard to get working in Pd, since they are already Gem objects. http://www.cc.kyoto-su.ac.jp/~hirai/softwares/index-j.html One is pix_qrencode which is based on libqrencode, which lets you read those 2D barcodes. The other is pix_artoolkit, which is based on ARToolkit, which is a type of code to stick on things that you can then track in 3D space using Gem. Just throwing that out there in case anyone is interested. .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ARToolkit and libqrencode for Gem
thanks hans for posting this :) I also want to add that there are two very cool objects pix_jit2gem and pix_gem2jit on that site. the only missing link right now to (hopefully) connect pd/gem and jitter is pix_share_write, which is not available in the max version of gem. or are there any other ways to share gpu textures between jitter and gem? maybe using glsl? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just found these download on the page of Shigeyuki Hirai, who does the Max/MSP port of Gem. He has two interesting objects that shouldn't be to hard to get working in Pd, since they are already Gem objects. http://www.cc.kyoto-su.ac.jp/~hirai/softwares/index-j.html One is pix_qrencode which is based on libqrencode, which lets you read those 2D barcodes. The other is pix_artoolkit, which is based on ARToolkit, which is a type of code to stick on things that you can then track in 3D space using Gem. Just throwing that out there in case anyone is interested. .hc Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
I get the same error if I try to make a [drip] or [zexy/drip], although there is a drip.dll in extra/zexy. [sum] works fine with no prefix because it's an abstraction: extra/zexy/sum.pd. However I still get the message in the pd window: C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\sum.dll: couldn't load This is with Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20080310 on WinXP. Martin From: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Does this file actually exist in this location? C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create Try deleting C:\Program Files\pd and reinstalling Pd-extended. I've never seen anything like this, it works on all the machines I've tried. .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Jerome Tuncer wrote: In fact, No chance for me either. When I try to instantiate [glue] or [zexy/glue]. On WinXP SP2. Console output at startup says : libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 10 2008 at 06:15:49 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080310 Gem: can't load library libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath libdir_loader: added zexy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added creb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added cxc to the global classpath libdir_loader: added iemlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added list-abs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mapping to the global classpath libdir_loader: added markex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added maxlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added memento to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mjlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added motex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added oscx to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pddp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pdogg to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pixeltango to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pmpd to the global classpath libdir_loader: added rradical to the global classpath libdir_loader: added sigpack to the global classpath libdir_loader: added smlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added toxy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added unauthorized to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pan to the global classpath libdir_loader: added freeverb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hcs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added jmmmp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ext13 to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hardware to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ggee to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ekext to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flatspace to the global classpath libdir_loader: added deprecated to the global classpath But when I try to instantiate any zexy object (be it with [drip] or [zexy/drip]) : C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create I haven't been using pd in windows for long but now I'd like to for some reasons and I'm not very confident with the behavior of pd-extended. What is the libdir loader ? Where can I find info on pd-extended's way of loading externals/adding paths... ? ++ Jé Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : We should keep this on the list, so I cc'ed it. Try this: [zexy/niagara] [zexy/glue] .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: Works for me on WinXP. You'll need to provide more info if you want hlep. i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but then lots of objects don't work, e.g. niagara or glue... mirko .hc On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: hi list, again i've installed pd-ext: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3- extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy. is there no chance...? greets, mirko -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list --- -- --- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PD] ARToolkit and libqrencode for Gem
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The other is pix_artoolkit, which is based on ARToolkit, which is a type of code to stick on things that you can then track in 3D space using Gem. well, at least his one has been backported to Gem in late 2006. people seem to not know this. fgmafsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] NRCI - Networked Resources for Collaborative Improvisation
Thanks Marius, Unfortunately, the documentation is unfinished at this point. Obviously something we need to work on. However, both the paper and the protocol specification describe the system in a bit of detail. Both are linked from the main page. Are there any specific questions you have? -Greg On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:19 PM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi greg, that looks very promising, but can you give an example of how to use it, the page you posted says NRCI documentation: [link to be added]... thnks, marius. Greg Surges wrote: Hey all, Just wanted to post a link to a project I've been co-developing for a while now. NRCI is a set of PD abstractions to allow for sharing control data over a standard TCP/IP network. It's been designed for MiLO, the Milwaukee Laptop Orchestra. Thought people might be interested, and I'm anxious for any suggestions or comments! Here's the link http://ccrma.stanford.edu/%7Ecburns/NRCI/. Thanks! -Greg Surges ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.uwm.edu/~gssurges/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
I can't reproduce this problem, so I am guessing it is due to some differences than the standard US WinXP setup. My system drive is the F: drive even, and that works fine. When you get this error, check to see whether the file actually exists in that exact location: C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Matthew Logan wrote: This happens to mine as well. I took the same registry file that I created for the last pd- extended and re-used it but it didn't work. For some reason, the error messages in this version throw double slashes on every slash in the search path, as shown below, while the paths under the path menu still look correct. The trouble must be caused by that; some error in the coding that deals with folder structure, saying that a slash in a path entry should have a double slash, the program then not being able to find it. I'm not a coder and wouldn't know where to look or what to do when found, but this seems to be a good starting point for someone who does know a bit. Matt On 3/11/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this file actually exist in this location? C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create Try deleting C:\Program Files\pd and reinstalling Pd-extended. I've never seen anything like this, it works on all the machines I've tried. .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Jerome Tuncer wrote: In fact, No chance for me either. When I try to instantiate [glue] or [zexy/glue]. On WinXP SP2. Console output at startup says : libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Mar 10 2008 at 06:15:49 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080310 Gem: can't load library libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath libdir_loader: added zexy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added creb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added cxc to the global classpath libdir_loader: added iemlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added list-abs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mapping to the global classpath libdir_loader: added markex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added maxlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added memento to the global classpath libdir_loader: added mjlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added motex to the global classpath libdir_loader: added oscx to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pddp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pdogg to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pixeltango to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pmpd to the global classpath libdir_loader: added rradical to the global classpath libdir_loader: added sigpack to the global classpath libdir_loader: added smlib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added toxy to the global classpath libdir_loader: added unauthorized to the global classpath libdir_loader: added pan to the global classpath libdir_loader: added freeverb to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hcs to the global classpath libdir_loader: added jmmmp to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ext13 to the global classpath libdir_loader: added hardware to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ggee to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flib to the global classpath libdir_loader: added ekext to the global classpath libdir_loader: added flatspace to the global classpath libdir_loader: added deprecated to the global classpath But when I try to instantiate any zexy object (be it with [drip] or [zexy/drip]) : C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load drip ... couldn't create I haven't been using pd in windows for long but now I'd like to for some reasons and I'm not very confident with the behavior of pd-extended. What is the libdir loader ? Where can I find info on pd- extended's way of loading externals/adding paths... ? ++ Jé Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : We should keep this on the list, so I cc'ed it. Try this: [zexy/niagara] [zexy/glue] .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: Works for me on WinXP. You'll need to provide more info if you want hlep. i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but then lots of objects don't work, e.g. niagara or glue... mirko .hc On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: hi list, again i've installed pd-ext: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3- extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy.
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
Just trying things at random, dlls in extra/cyclone and other folders seem to load with no problem. Zexy is weird because many of the objects exist as both dlls and abstractions with the same name, like a2l.dll and a2l.pd. The abstractions load OK but not the dlls, even [0x3c0x7e] loads OK, while 0x2e doesn't because it only exists as a dll. Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no 0.41.1 extended debian testing in autobuild
ok i checked the logs and saw various errors in the file so am not quite sure who to gently poke..so, i'll very tentatively gently poke yves though this may be mistargeted... here is the end of the log from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-08/logs/2008-03-08_06.29.55_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run-automated-builder.txt install: cannot stat `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No such file or directory make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 upload specs linux_make . deb Uploading /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./Pd*.deb ls: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./Pd*.deb: No such file or directory thanks rob c Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You can check the build log to find out, there is a build log for each build. It will be there if the build ran. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-11/logs/2008-03-11_06.29.54_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run-automated-builder.txt Usually it's because something got broken. You can politely poke whoever broke it, so that it gets fixed :) .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:00 AM, robcanning wrote: hi, there doesn't seem to have been a extended debian testing .deb created in autobuild since 20080307 Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-07/Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb is there a good reason for this or is something broken thanks rob c Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
So it is only zexy dlls that are having the problem? If so, I am guessing that zexy is missing the -mms-bitfields compile flag on MinGW. .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Martin Peach wrote: Just trying things at random, dlls in extra/cyclone and other folders seem to load with no problem. Zexy is weird because many of the objects exist as both dlls and abstractions with the same name, like a2l.dll and a2l.pd. The abstractions load OK but not the dlls, even [0x3c0x7e] loads OK, while 0x2e doesn't because it only exists as a dll. Martin All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ARToolkit and libqrencode for Gem
On Mar 11, 2008, at 1:59 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The other is pix_artoolkit, which is based on ARToolkit, which is a type of code to stick on things that you can then track in 3D space using Gem. well, at least his one has been backported to Gem in late 2006. people seem to not know this. What would be the best way to include this into Gem and/or Pd- extended, if it isn't already? .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vowel recognition
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:19:08 +0100 Bryan Jurish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: moin Marius, moin list, sorry, haven't tried it yet -- i'm more interested in getting funny noises out of pd than into it ;-) Maybe Andy Farnell has done something along these lines? No, I've nothing much to offer here except that LPC (linear predictive coding) is one way I believe vowel recognition can be done. Perry and Eduardo Miranda both mention it in their textbooks in this context and I'm pretty sure there's a whole stack of papers out there from speech recognition people that will point you in this direction. LPC delivers the pitched or noisy component, plus a residual error, plus a profile of a filter that would reconstruct the orginal signal if the pitched/noisy part were subjected to it. I can't remember exactly how this works, but there is a way to turn the LPC analysis into the coefficients for this filter. In Csound it works as an analysis resynthesis pair. I think only three strong poles need to be identified then pattern matching to the spacing of these formants should give you the vowel, independently of the voice age/gender/louness etc when you look at the ratios (say the first and second distance vs the first and third) Speculating wildly (e.g. without any experience in vowel detection), I think [fiddle~] probably won't work on its own: it's designed to detect the fundamental frequency (f0), whereas vowels will differ primarily in the formants: maybe an fft approach would work? or perhaps you could have several instances of [fiddle~], tweaking the parameters such that each detects a single formant? ... just wild speculation ... marmosets, Bryan On 2008-03-11 00:35:42, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: hi, I wonder if anyone did vowel recognition with Pd. Maybe ed kelly? or brian j.? can it be based on fiddle~ or does it neeed more/other objects/technology? marius. -- Bryan Jurish There is *always* one more bug. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no 0.41.1 extended debian testing in autobuild
Also there's trouble in moocow: checking for flite.h... no configure: error: required header 'flite.h' not found -- quitting ... configure: WARNING:gfsm library not found! ... ./atom_alphabet.h:32:18: error: gfsm.h: No such file or directory And it looks like maybe a missing header in pdp: pdp_capture.c: In function 'XMyClientWindow': pdp_capture.c:129: warning: implicit declaration of function 'XWindowByProperty' pdp_capture.c: In function 'XMyGetWindowImage': pdp_capture.c:335: warning: implicit declaration of function 'XDestroyImage' pdp_capture.c:339: error: 'Visual' has no member named 'klass' ... Martin robcanning wrote: ok i checked the logs and saw various errors in the file so am not quite sure who to gently poke..so, i'll very tentatively gently poke yves though this may be mistargeted... here is the end of the log from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-08/logs/2008-03-08_06.29.55_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run-automated-builder.txt install: cannot stat `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No such file or directory make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 upload specs linux_make . deb Uploading /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./Pd*.deb ls: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./Pd*.deb: No such file or directory thanks rob c Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You can check the build log to find out, there is a build log for each build. It will be there if the build ran. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-11/logs/2008-03-11_06.29.54_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run-automated-builder.txt Usually it's because something got broken. You can politely poke whoever broke it, so that it gets fixed :) .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:00 AM, robcanning wrote: hi, there doesn't seem to have been a extended debian testing .deb created in autobuild since 20080307 Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-07/Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb is there a good reason for this or is something broken thanks rob c Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Spreading values and objects in windows version of pd-extended.
Hi list. Can anyone tell me, how i can spread objects or values in windows version of pd-ext? I want create system of cubes, and don't want create 20 or many individual objects. I think, pd must have way to spread single cube, such i do it in . P.S. Also, can any1 give me some mirror and glass shaders programs, or shaders program visual generator (I think, it's must be very useful). Because, at this moment, i don't understand, how program it by myself (reading Orange book). Best regards, Vadim. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
Yes exactly the same down here : problem apparently shows up only on zexy *objects* (abstractions are instantiated with no apparent problems). ++ Jé Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : So it is only zexy dlls that are having the problem? If so, I am guessing that zexy is missing the -mms-bitfields compile flag on MinGW. .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Martin Peach wrote: Just trying things at random, dlls in extra/cyclone and other folders seem to load with no problem. Zexy is weird because many of the objects exist as both dlls and abstractions with the same name, like a2l.dll and a2l.pd. The abstractions load OK but not the dlls, even [0x3c0x7e] loads OK, while 0x2e doesn't because it only exists as a dll. Martin All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Rotating object rolling on irregular terrain
Thanks for these very useful pointers Stefano, I did find the earlier Sounding Object toolkit and will try these through Flext. Interesting work that I will follow! Creaking / stick-slip models are also of interest, but I am trying to present these in vanilla Pd for teaching purposes. good wishes, Andy On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:25:44 +0100 Stefano Papetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, at that time, Matthias Rath was working on the rolling model in Verona (Vision, Image Processing, and Sound lab, Computer Science Dept.) and was a member in the project Sounding Object (SOb, http://www.soundobject.org/ , there you can find the book collecting the most important results of the project). Unfortunately the software available on-line is not the very updated. However, the current CLOSED project (http://closed.ircam.fr/ ), in which I am a member, is carrying on the development of the everyday-sounds modules. You can find the latest version of the software package (available via svn) here: https://svn.sme-ccppd.org/svn/sobs/SoundDesignTools/tags/SDT-0.4.2c/ Unfortunately, since the coordinator of the project CLOSED is an Ircamian, we were force to switch to Max/MSP, but at the same time we started developing using flext, so you can always compile the externals for pd. The example patches provided are for Max only, though. If you're interested, I can send you the latest pd version (pre-Max) of the rolling patch+externals. Stefano -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd sounds better than Max?
Hi Roman, all, Here's discussion that caught my eye some while back http://www.devmaster.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5784 There's been several good posts on music-dsp and dsp-related.com over the years dealing with both sides, high accuracy and high effciciency. In the end, of course, it's a trade off. Andy On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:39:54 +0100 Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 21:25 +, Andy Farnell wrote: On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:08:45 -0500 marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote: Both use the same patch (the undulating diffraction effect). It's comparable because I translated the Csound version directly to Pd, both are 64 oscillator banks and it's clear that the Csound one sparkles while the Pd one sounds a bit muddy. Csound also is known as CleanSound in some circles. so why is then pure data not equally clean? marius. Because it's optimised for real-time performance. Max/Pd strike a careful balance between for real-time capability. The amazing sound quality of Csound comes about because it was designed for offline rendering, and it got realtime by dint of increased CPU speeds. sounds reasonable. however, i would be interested to have some illustration of that. what is it, that makes the difference? i'd be most interested to see examples on a rather low level (oscillators, ramp generators etc). the code for both is open, so it should be feasible to find some differences, if there are any. basically, this means also, that it is not possible to generate any intended signal with pd. is that true? roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spreading values and objects in windows version of pd-extended.
Vadim Smahtin wrote: Hi list. Can anyone tell me, how i can spread objects or values in windows version of pd-ext? I want create system of cubes, and don't want create 20 or many individual objects. I think, pd must have way to spread single cube, such i do it in . This has been covered in the past on this mailing list: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-09/054013.html P.S. Also, can any1 give me some mirror and glass shaders programs, or shaders program visual generator (I think, it's must be very useful). Because, at this moment, i don't understand, how program it by myself (reading Orange book). Best regards, Vadim. This might be more on topic for this mailing list: https://dataflow.ws/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glslang-dataflow.ws Hope these help, Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation
Hi list, I need to implement an object that I will call a scheduler (suggestions for a better name are welcome too) which would be very similar to a [qlist] (without the need for the capability of changing the tempo), with two differences: - the leading number in a message represents absolute time (since some initial instant) rather than relative to the previous message - you can [add( messages with a scheduled time that is not greater than all previously added messages. This basically means implementing a priority queue (doesn't it?). Is a binary heap the most efficient structure (in inserting an element and extracting the minimum) for implementing that? I thought I'd dive into pdlua and use lua to implement such an object (I am completely new to lua though)... would you suggest that or pyext and implement it in python? It seems python has standard heap functions in its library; does lua have something equivalent or will I have to write the code for the priority queue? Would be interesting to know if anyone has ever run into the same necessity and how you did it. Thanks m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spreading values and objects in windows version of pd-extended.
Hallo, Vadim Smahtin hat gesagt: // Vadim Smahtin wrote: Hi list. Can anyone tell me, how i can spread objects or values in windows version of pd-ext? I want create system of cubes, and don't want create 20 or many individual objects. I think, pd must have way to spread single cube, such i do it in . Search the archive for the double gemhead idiom. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
Cool, sounds like a bug report is in order: http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Jerome Tuncer wrote: Yes exactly the same down here : problem apparently shows up only on zexy *objects* (abstractions are instantiated with no apparent problems). ++ Jé Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : So it is only zexy dlls that are having the problem? If so, I am guessing that zexy is missing the -mms-bitfields compile flag on MinGW. .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Martin Peach wrote: Just trying things at random, dlls in extra/cyclone and other folders seem to load with no problem. Zexy is weird because many of the objects exist as both dlls and abstractions with the same name, like a2l.dll and a2l.pd. The abstractions load OK but not the dlls, even [0x3c0x7e] loads OK, while 0x2e doesn't because it only exists as a dll. Martin - --- All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no 0.41.1 extended debian testing in autobuild
I added flite to all of the GNU/Linux build machines, it was in the package systems, so it was easy. I am trying my hand at a Fink package for Mac OS X. Hopefully it'll build for MinGW too. As for libgfsm, you'll have to talk to Bryan about that. :) .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Martin Peach wrote: Also there's trouble in moocow: checking for flite.h... no configure: error: required header 'flite.h' not found -- quitting ... configure: WARNING:gfsm library not found! ... ./atom_alphabet.h:32:18: error: gfsm.h: No such file or directory And it looks like maybe a missing header in pdp: pdp_capture.c: In function 'XMyClientWindow': pdp_capture.c:129: warning: implicit declaration of function 'XWindowByProperty' pdp_capture.c: In function 'XMyGetWindowImage': pdp_capture.c:335: warning: implicit declaration of function 'XDestroyImage' pdp_capture.c:339: error: 'Visual' has no member named 'klass' ... Martin robcanning wrote: ok i checked the logs and saw various errors in the file so am not quite sure who to gently poke..so, i'll very tentatively gently poke yves though this may be mistargeted... here is the end of the log from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-08/logs/ 2008-03-08_06.29.55_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run- automated-builder.txt install: cannot stat `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No such file or directory make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/ externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/ packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 upload specs linux_make . deb Uploading /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./ Pd*.deb ls: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./ Pd*.deb: No such file or directory thanks rob c Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You can check the build log to find out, there is a build log for each build. It will be there if the build ran. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-11/logs/ 2008-03-11_06.29.54_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run- automated-builder.txt Usually it's because something got broken. You can politely poke whoever broke it, so that it gets fixed :) .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:00 AM, robcanning wrote: hi, there doesn't seem to have been a extended debian testing .deb created in autobuild since 20080307 Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-07/Pd-0.41.1- extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb is there a good reason for this or is something broken thanks rob c - --- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vowel recognition
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 19:35 -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi, I wonder if anyone did vowel recognition with Pd. Maybe ed kelly? or brian j.? can it be based on fiddle~ or does it neeed more/other objects/technology? You might be able to make a crude vowel recognition system using [fiddle~] and [choice]. You could make some vowel profile vectors using the sinusoidal components from the 5th output of fiddle~, and build a database of vowel profiles in [choice], which can be matched to unknown 'candidate' vectors. If you want to do it using a more sophisticated/conventional technique, you should probably look at using MFCC or LPCC to create your feature vector, combined with a classifier such as k-NN or neural network to do the actual recognition. All of these things can be done in Pd with the help of a few externals. My libxtract library supports both MFCC and LPCC extraction and has a Pd implementation: http://sourceforge.net/projects/libxtract If you are going to use it, I would advise checking out the svn version since it includes a number of bug fixes and new features. best, Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no 0.41.1 extended debian testing in autobuild
ola, ok, it should be fixed tomorrow, it was basically due to some changes in Image Magick .. pdp_capture is now made optional for it's too difficult to maintain with instabilities in Image Magick, you should use --enable-capture to have it included there are also a few updates from pidip 0.12.22, mostly added a pdp_dot object ciao, sevy robcanning wrote: ok i checked the logs and saw various errors in the file so am not quite sure who to gently poke..so, i'll very tentatively gently poke yves though this may be mistargeted... here is the end of the log from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-08/logs/2008-03-08_06.29.55_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run-automated-builder.txt install: cannot stat `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No such file or directory make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 upload specs linux_make . deb Uploading /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./Pd*.deb ls: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-main+libs/packages/linux_make/./Pd*.deb: No such file or directory thanks rob c Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You can check the build log to find out, there is a build log for each build. It will be there if the build ran. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-11/logs/2008-03-11_06.29.54_linux_debian-testing-i386_pd-main+libs_run-automated-builder.txt Usually it's because something got broken. You can politely poke whoever broke it, so that it gets fixed :) .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:00 AM, robcanning wrote: hi, there doesn't seem to have been a extended debian testing .deb created in autobuild since 20080307 Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-07/Pd-0.41.1-extended-20080307-debian-testing-i386.deb is there a good reason for this or is something broken thanks rob c Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] opposite of abs
thank you thank you PD list.(in particular, Claude) I am constantly amazed by this community. You couldn't get better support if you paid for it. for my next question... is there a object that performs the opposite of [abs]? [abs] can give me 15 when i have -15, for example, but I would like to get -15 when I have 15. any ideas? thanks so much Ben C. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opposite of abs
[abs] will give you always positive. This will give you always negative: [abs] | [* -1] On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Ben Carney wrote: thank you thank you PD list.(in particular, Claude) I am constantly amazed by this community. You couldn't get better support if you paid for it. for my next question... is there a object that performs the opposite of [abs]? [abs] can give me 15 when i have -15, for example, but I would like to get -15 when I have 15. any ideas? thanks so much Ben C. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opposite of abs
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 18:43 -0500, Ben Carney wrote: is there a object that performs the opposite of [abs]? [abs] can give me 15 when i have -15, for example, but I would like to get -15 when I have 15. [abs] will give always positive output, independently from the input. is 'output is always negative' what you want? if yes, simply do: [abs] | [* -1] roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ARToolkit and libqrencode for Gem
davide morelli was working on pix_artoolkit_plus (using digitals markers - way more precise). i wanted to submit it to google summer of code last year: http://www.davidemorelli.it/doku.php?id=ar:artoolkitplus http://www.davidemorelli.it/doku.php?id=ar:augmented_reality_and_interfaces patrick ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
