[PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack
hi I am using Audacity to record output of PD via Jack on Ubuntu Studio. I am also having supercollider sending audio to PD. Audacity is causing some discontinuities in the audio and the recording has gaps every 5-10 secs. I tried recording with supercollider and i did not get this problem. Could anyone suggest some basic sound recorder that works with jack? I just need to record the jack output, no need for multitrack or editing, just be able to select the sound format, frequency and amplitude maybe. There are some I saw searching with synaptics but I thought maybe someone here has some suggestion. thanks enrike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] clear sounding patches
hello, i been working on supercollider and csound some years ago, and i can really notice pd sounds quality is not as good as them. i was thinking to rewrite my old pd patches... because i dont like the sound quality. i read before at this list that pd quality depends of a lot of factorsi think it object has a diferent algorithm that defines its quality... i compared and sine oscillater on supercollider and pd and pds one sounds poor. i was thinking maybe i can change the object that sound not as good in pd, for example using csoundapi~ for creating a sinosc ... and so on so i dont need to rewrite the all patch in supercollider. i would like to know which objects has the very sound quality in pd, maybe some somebody has any experiency with something similar to share? i never tried csoundapi but can i change all the pds objects like bp, or hp , sin, saw, etc with csoundapi~ and its respective code in csound, maybe there are good sounding libraries of object that does the same as pds native objects? any idea? thanks. and sorry for the question im stooned __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack
altern wrote: > Could anyone suggest some basic sound recorder that works with jack? ecasound ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino and FSRs
Hello Martin, you are absolutely spot on here. In fact I want the numbers to go up as I apply pressure so I've swapped the fsr and 10k as you suggest and all works perfectly. No need for the expensive voltage divider then and more difficult to calibrate several of them equally when a 10k resistor does the job. Thank you to everybody on pd list who have helped me sort this out. Nick. FSR have a very _high_ resistance with no force. The resistance goes down when you apply pressure. The circuit needs to look like this: 5V | 10k | +--analog in | FSR | Ground This will give a number that goes down as force is applied. If you want the number to increase, switch the 10k and FSR. Looking at the (considerably more expensive than a 10k resistor) phidget voltage divider I see that the resistance is a multi-turn 1Meg potentiometer. If it is set to zero ohms then pressing a sensor will short out the power supply. Also by convention the red wire is 5V, the black wire is ground and the white is the analog signal. Martin ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] lua scripting for pd objects
Hallo, chris clepper hat gesagt: // chris clepper wrote: > C++ - Jamie did a lot of this for his personal use. > > I have not used luagl, but I suspect it will not be comparable to C in > speed. luagl is not as fast as C, but it's already much faster than using lots of separators or double gemheads. Regarding Gem-externals: Does anyone have a simple template project how to write and compile a custom Gem external? This could be very useful, but I'm a bit confused how to do this in a simple way. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] lua scripting for pd objects
hello, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, chris clepper hat gesagt: // chris clepper wrote: C++ - Jamie did a lot of this for his personal use. I have not used luagl, but I suspect it will not be comparable to C in speed. luagl is not as fast as C, but it's already much faster than using lots of separators or double gemheads. Regarding Gem-externals: Does anyone have a simple template project how to write and compile a custom Gem external? This could be very useful, but I'm a bit confused how to do this in a simple way. use a gem object (like cube). search and replace "cube" by the name of your object in both the ccp and h file. use this makefile (adjust the name of the file / src directory). it should compile. cyrille Ciao PD_DIR = /home/nusmuk/pd/pd/src GEM_DIR = /home/nusmuk/pd/Gem/src LIBS = -lm # build flags INCLUDE = -I$(PD_DIR) -I. -I$(GEM_DIR) -I$(PD_DIR) CPPFLAGS = -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math \ -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -g all:test.pd_linux rm -f *.o .SUFFIXES: .pd_linux clean: rm -f *.o rm -f *.pd_linux .cpp.o: g++ $(CPPFLAGS) $(INCLUDE) -o $*.o -c $*.cpp .cpp.pd_linux: g++ $(CPPFLAGS) $(INCLUDE) -o $*.o -c $*.cpp gcc -export_dynamic -shared -o $*.pd_linux $*.o $(LIBS) rm -f *.o ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack
Timemachine is a really cool utility. On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:46:14 +0200 altern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi > > I am using Audacity to record output of PD via Jack on Ubuntu Studio. I > am also having supercollider sending audio to PD. Audacity is causing > some discontinuities in the audio and the recording has gaps every 5-10 > secs. I tried recording with supercollider and i did not get this problem. > > Could anyone suggest some basic sound recorder that works with jack? I > just need to record the jack output, no need for multitrack or editing, > just be able to select the sound format, frequency and amplitude maybe. > > There are some I saw searching with synaptics but I thought maybe > someone here has some suggestion. > > thanks > > enrike > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack
If you do end up needing more gui sound editing capabilities, you might also try rezound. > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:46:14 +0200 > From: altern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack > To: the PureData - mailinglist > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > hi > > I am using Audacity to record output of PD via Jack on Ubuntu Studio. I > am also having supercollider sending audio to PD. Audacity is causing > some discontinuities in the audio and the recording has gaps every 5-10 > secs. I tried recording with supercollider and i did not get this problem. > > Could anyone suggest some basic sound recorder that works with jack? I > just need to record the jack output, no need for multitrack or editing, > just be able to select the sound format, frequency and amplitude maybe. > > There are some I saw searching with synaptics but I thought maybe > someone here has some suggestion. > > thanks > > enrike > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack
Audacity is really lame with Jack. It's [retty lame in general, actually, but unless something changed recently, the fact that it has no native Jack support is pretty bad... I second Andy's vote for Timemachine. Only problem with Timemachine is that you get a directory full of timecoded recordings that you might have to rename into something memorable later. I use Rezound for editing as well, but it's not a good Jack client so the recording capability isn;t useful. But for destructive editing it's the best. ciao, d. Andy Farnell wrote: > > Timemachine is a really cool utility. > > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:46:14 +0200 > altern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Could anyone suggest some basic sound recorder that works with jack? I >> just need to record the jack output, no need for multitrack or editing, >> just be able to select the sound format, frequency and amplitude maybe. >> >> There are some I saw searching with synaptics but I thought maybe >> someone here has some suggestion. >> >> thanks >> >> enrike >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 50: "Distort time" ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audacity and PD problems with Jack
> Audacity is really lame with Jack. It's [retty lame in general, > actually, but unless something changed recently, the fact that it has no > native Jack support is pretty bad... well, audacity uses portaudio to talk with jack, which is not generally bad ... i guess it is more a problem, how audacity talks to portaudio, than portaudio's jack backend ... i am using portaudio myself to connect nova to jack and it is running really stable ... cheers, tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Linux is like a wigwam: no windows, no gates, apache inside, stable. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] lua scripting for pd objects
Hallo, cyrille henry hat gesagt: // cyrille henry wrote: > >luagl is not as fast as C, but it's already much faster than using > >lots of separators or double gemheads. > > > >Regarding Gem-externals: Does anyone have a simple template project > >how to write and compile a custom Gem external? This could be very > >useful, but I'm a bit confused how to do this in a simple way. > > > > > use a gem object (like cube). > search and replace "cube" by the name of your object in both the ccp and h > file. > use this makefile (adjust the name of the file / src directory). > it should compile. Thanks a lot Cyrille. I made a little "benchmark" of a [linebuffer] object in luagl vs. a quickly hacked C++ version (warning, very ugly code!! Includes bugs I didn't care to fix for now.) In this case, Lua does compare quite well with the C++ version on my machine. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ lua-c-gemtest.tgz Description: GNU Unix tar archive ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM and PDP-PiDiP
Hello, I have a problem when i use GEM and PDP at the same time with pd- extended 0.39.3 on MacOSX.4.11 (powerbook G4). When i draw a square in the GEM window and start a video in X11 window with [pdp_yqt], the square in GEM window disappears. (See the patch attached). An other thing : with pd-extended 0.40.3 20080406 and [pdp_yqt], i get an error with the same video (.mov jpeg codec) : pdp_yqt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/PD9.5/normalJPEG.mov pdp_yqt: unsupported video codec Any idea ? ++ Jack GEMandPIDIP.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] display lists - was: Re: lua scripting for pd objects
Hi, i really have next to no GEM knowledge, but i was always asking myself whether GEM compiles the GL commands to display lists. If yes, is that structured by using separate gemheads, if no, why isn't it used? If display lists are used i would think it shouldn't make a lot of difference which language is used for the GL commands (apart from changing parameters maybe). gr~~~ Am 13.04.2008 um 16:38 schrieb Frank Barknecht: > Hallo, > cyrille henry hat gesagt: // cyrille henry wrote: > >>> luagl is not as fast as C, but it's already much faster than using >>> lots of separators or double gemheads. >>> >>> Regarding Gem-externals: Does anyone have a simple template project >>> how to write and compile a custom Gem external? This could be very >>> useful, but I'm a bit confused how to do this in a simple way. >>> >> >> >> use a gem object (like cube). >> search and replace "cube" by the name of your object in both the >> ccp and h >> file. >> use this makefile (adjust the name of the file / src directory). >> it should compile. > > Thanks a lot Cyrille. I made a little "benchmark" of a [linebuffer] > object in luagl vs. a quickly hacked C++ version (warning, very ugly > code!! Includes bugs I didn't care to fix for now.) > > In this case, Lua does compare quite well with the C++ version on my > machine. > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ > __footils.org__ gemtest.tgz>___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM and PDP-PiDiP
Jack wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem when i use GEM and PDP at the same time with > pd-extended 0.39.3 on MacOSX.4.11 (powerbook G4). > When i draw a square in the GEM window and start a video in X11 window > with [pdp_yqt], the square in GEM window disappears. (See the patch > attached). i have no idea, but try disabling threaded packet handling in pdp (in case it is turned on) mfgadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] display lists - was: Re: lua scripting for pd objects
A display list is useful for static geometry which is why it makes sense for the model object. It does not make much sense for the Geos that allow the changing of the vertex data (sphere, cylinder, etc) since the compiling of the list has to be done for each change which adds overhead. I think someone did make an example of building a display list per gemhead and then calling the list for rendering in another. On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Thomas Grill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > i really have next to no GEM knowledge, but i was always asking > myself whether GEM compiles the GL commands to display lists. > If yes, is that structured by using separate gemheads, if no, why > isn't it used? > If display lists are used i would think it shouldn't make a lot of > difference which language is used for the GL commands (apart from > changing parameters maybe). > gr~~~ > > > Am 13.04.2008 um 16:38 schrieb Frank Barknecht: > > > Hallo, > > cyrille henry hat gesagt: // cyrille henry wrote: > > > >>> luagl is not as fast as C, but it's already much faster than using > >>> lots of separators or double gemheads. > >>> > >>> Regarding Gem-externals: Does anyone have a simple template project > >>> how to write and compile a custom Gem external? This could be very > >>> useful, but I'm a bit confused how to do this in a simple way. > >>> > >> > >> > >> use a gem object (like cube). > >> search and replace "cube" by the name of your object in both the > >> ccp and h > >> file. > >> use this makefile (adjust the name of the file / src directory). > >> it should compile. > > > > Thanks a lot Cyrille. I made a little "benchmark" of a [linebuffer] > > object in luagl vs. a quickly hacked C++ version (warning, very ugly > > code!! Includes bugs I didn't care to fix for now.) > > > > In this case, Lua does compare quite well with the C++ version on my > > machine. > > > > Ciao > > -- > > Frank Barknecht _ > > __footils.org__ > gemtest.tgz>___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM and PDP-PiDiP
I had to make some changes to the GEM code for 10.5 in order to make the window come to the foreground. I would guess that PDP also has some way to make its window the topmost window and there might be some sort of conflict. You can also make the gemwin disappear by opening the dialog in pix_video and have to send a create message back to the gemwin after the dialog is closed. Maybe the app has to be sent to the foreground every time through the drawing routines are called. That is probably bad behavior though. On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem when i use GEM and PDP at the same time with pd-extended > 0.39.3 on MacOSX.4.11 (powerbook G4). > When i draw a square in the GEM window and start a video in X11 window > with [pdp_yqt], the square in GEM window disappears. (See the patch > attached). > > An other thing : with pd-extended 0.40.3 20080406 and [pdp_yqt], i get an > error with the same video (.mov jpeg codec) : > pdp_yqt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/PD9.5/normalJPEG.mov > pdp_yqt: unsupported video codec > > Any idea ? > ++ > > Jack > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] lua scripting for pd objects
hello frank, not sure how to compare. the lua code fades the lines out, but the c++ object does not. I can create 10 lines in lbuff and still only get 34% cpu use. with lua and aging 0 I can only have about 17000 lines. marius. Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > cyrille henry hat gesagt: // cyrille henry wrote: > >>> luagl is not as fast as C, but it's already much faster than using >>> lots of separators or double gemheads. >>> >>> Regarding Gem-externals: Does anyone have a simple template project >>> how to write and compile a custom Gem external? This could be very >>> useful, but I'm a bit confused how to do this in a simple way. >>> >> >> use a gem object (like cube). >> search and replace "cube" by the name of your object in both the ccp and h >> file. >> use this makefile (adjust the name of the file / src directory). >> it should compile. > > Thanks a lot Cyrille. I made a little "benchmark" of a [linebuffer] > object in luagl vs. a quickly hacked C++ version (warning, very ugly > code!! Includes bugs I didn't care to fix for now.) > > In this case, Lua does compare quite well with the C++ version on my > machine. > > Ciao > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] display lists - was: Re: lua scripting for pd objects
chris clepper wrote: > I think someone did make an example of building a display list per > gemhead and then calling the list for rendering in another. i guess you mean the one i mentioned earlier, which can be found in examples/09.openGL/ mfgas IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM and PDP-PiDiP
On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 18:20 +0200, Jack wrote: > An other thing : with pd-extended 0.40.3 20080406 and [pdp_yqt], i > get an error with the same video (.mov jpeg codec) : > pdp_yqt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/PD9.5/normalJPEG.mov > pdp_yqt: unsupported video codec same problem here on OS X (10.4.?) with pd-extended-0.39.3 and 0.40.3 (2008-02-22) intel-builds. i tried several videos, that can be played back by quicktime, but not by [pdp_qt] nor [pdp_yqt]. i tried mjpeg coded and other codecs. i also tried anim-1.mov from the Gem examples. none of the could be played. all of them could be played by [pix_film], though. roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
