[PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
finally i have decided to release Gem-0.91 codename 'tigital'.

downloads (and release notes) are available via the official homepage 
http://gem.iem.at and via sourceforge 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=64325package_id=61445release_id=603766


happy patching

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Re: [PD] 3dp/pdp_opengl in Pd-extended

2008-06-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I forgot to mention, you need to have pdp loaded first too, so like:

[import pdp pdp_opengl] unless you are using the built-in  
preferences, which automatically load pdp.

.hc

On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:59 AM, Jack wrote:

 Hola Hans and Lluis,
 Some problems on MacOSX.4.11, PowerBook G4 and Pd version 0.40.3- 
 extended-20080601.

 Le 2 juin 08 à 01:40, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


 So Lluis Gomez i Bigorda got me to play with 3dp aka pdp_opengl a
 little bit and it seems interesting, so I added it to the Pd-extended
 builds for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. I've already seen some interesting
 stuff, so I thought I'd throw it out there. You need a build from
 yesterday or later.

 Also, there is currently one help patch for 3dp_for, nothing else.
 So if you generate some in your explorations, please send them my
 way, or add them to the patch tracker:

 http://puredata.info/dev/patchtracker

 Here's how to play:

 - get a build from yesterday or later
 - start X11.app (if on Mac OS X)
 - open new patch, and create [import pdp_opengl]
 here i get :
 loading pdp_opengl
 /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ 
 pdp_opengl.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ 
 Resources/extra/pdp_opengl.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found:  
 _quicktime_audio_length
   Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/ 
 extra/pdp_opengl.pd_darwin
   Expected in: dynamic lookup

 error: [import]: ERROR: can't load library in pdp_opengl
 ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.
 [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
   WARNING! this is alpha, the interface could change!
   compiled against Pd version 0.40.3

 Then a lot of error like this one :
 3dp_draw square 8
 ... couldn't create
 etc.

 Any idea ?
 ++

 Jack

 - open Help - Browser, and browse examples - 3dp
 - play with them and see what you get
 - expect crashes and some fun 3D

 .hc


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread Steffen Juul


On 02/06/2008, at 9.48, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


finally i have decided to release Gem-0.91 codename 'tigital'.


Cool, thanks.

I just made (with bash+) a pd-patch that instantiate all the object- 
classes that have a help-patch in the Gem folder. It's attached in  
case others might find it useful for testing or just for the overview  
or something else.


Best



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[PD] strange message at startup

2008-06-02 Thread matteo sisti sette
Hi,

On a Windows machine, whenever I start PD Vanilla 0.41.2, I get the
following message on the pd console at startup:

Separate audio device choices not supported; using sequential devices.

However, this is nonsense because I am using ONE input and ONE output
device, with 2 channels each.

Any idea why this may be happening? and why not on another windows
machine with the same soundcard??
I am using standard, not ASIO.


This is supposed to happen when you click  use multiple devices and
select separate audio devices.
However, it used to happen even by selecting just one device and
configuring 4 channels (it gave this message and then worked fine
using adjacent devices), which is not correct either (why tell me
separate devices are not supported if I have not selected separate
devices?).
Anyway, when using only one input / one output with two channels the
message is nonsense.

Also, when I open PD and I open the media menu , neither standard
nor ASIO is checked - I know which one it is using because if I open
audio settings the content is different. If I manually change to
standard or asio, then it appears checked; however the one being used
should be visible from the beginning.

By the way, where are audio settings being saved?? (tried to search
the archives for this one but the keywords are confusing)

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Re: [PD] strange message at startup

2008-06-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
matteo sisti sette wrote:
 
 By the way, where are audio settings being saved?? (tried to search
 the archives for this one but the keywords are confusing)
 
it is stored as a preference (along with stuff like paths and 
startup-libs) using the os-dependent preference mechanism.
on w32 this is the registry (HLKM\Software\Pd)

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Re: [PD] 3dp/pdp_opengl in Pd-extended

2008-06-02 Thread Jack
Hello Hans,
With [import pdp pdp_opengl], Pd crash.
I try [import pdp] and then [import pdp_opengl], it crash too.
++

Jack


Le 2 juin 08 à 10:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


 I forgot to mention, you need to have pdp loaded first too, so like:

 [import pdp pdp_opengl] unless you are using the built-in  
 preferences, which automatically load pdp.

 .hc

 On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:59 AM, Jack wrote:

 Hola Hans and Lluis,
 Some problems on MacOSX.4.11, PowerBook G4 and Pd version 0.40.3- 
 extended-20080601.

 Le 2 juin 08 à 01:40, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


 So Lluis Gomez i Bigorda got me to play with 3dp aka pdp_opengl a
 little bit and it seems interesting, so I added it to the Pd- 
 extended
 builds for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. I've already seen some  
 interesting
 stuff, so I thought I'd throw it out there. You need a build from
 yesterday or later.

 Also, there is currently one help patch for 3dp_for, nothing else.
 So if you generate some in your explorations, please send them my
 way, or add them to the patch tracker:

 http://puredata.info/dev/patchtracker

 Here's how to play:

 - get a build from yesterday or later
 - start X11.app (if on Mac OS X)
 - open new patch, and create [import pdp_opengl]
 here i get :
 loading pdp_opengl
 /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ 
 pdp_opengl.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/ 
 Contents/Resources/extra/pdp_opengl.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not  
 found: _quicktime_audio_length
   Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ 
 Resources/extra/pdp_opengl.pd_darwin
   Expected in: dynamic lookup

 error: [import]: ERROR: can't load library in pdp_opengl
 ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.
 [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
  WARNING! this is alpha, the interface could change!
  compiled against Pd version 0.40.3

 Then a lot of error like this one :
 3dp_draw square 8
 ... couldn't create
 etc.

 Any idea ?
 ++

 Jack

 - open Help - Browser, and browse examples - 3dp
 - play with them and see what you get
 - expect crashes and some fun 3D

 .hc


  
 
 

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Re: [PD] 3dp/pdp_opengl in Pd-extended

2008-06-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Do you have X11 open?  It will crash unless X11.app is already open.

.hc

On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Jack wrote:

 Hello Hans,
 With [import pdp pdp_opengl], Pd crash.
 I try [import pdp] and then [import pdp_opengl], it crash too.
 ++

 Jack


 Le 2 juin 08 à 10:34, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


 I forgot to mention, you need to have pdp loaded first too, so like:

 [import pdp pdp_opengl] unless you are using the built-in  
 preferences, which automatically load pdp.

 .hc

 On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:59 AM, Jack wrote:

 Hola Hans and Lluis,
 Some problems on MacOSX.4.11, PowerBook G4 and Pd version 0.40.3- 
 extended-20080601.

 Le 2 juin 08 à 01:40, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :


 So Lluis Gomez i Bigorda got me to play with 3dp aka pdp_opengl a
 little bit and it seems interesting, so I added it to the Pd- 
 extended
 builds for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. I've already seen some  
 interesting
 stuff, so I thought I'd throw it out there. You need a build from
 yesterday or later.

 Also, there is currently one help patch for 3dp_for, nothing else.
 So if you generate some in your explorations, please send them my
 way, or add them to the patch tracker:

 http://puredata.info/dev/patchtracker

 Here's how to play:

 - get a build from yesterday or later
 - start X11.app (if on Mac OS X)
 - open new patch, and create [import pdp_opengl]
 here i get :
 loading pdp_opengl
 /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ 
 pdp_opengl.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/ 
 Contents/Resources/extra/pdp_opengl.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not  
 found: _quicktime_audio_length
   Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ 
 Resources/extra/pdp_opengl.pd_darwin
   Expected in: dynamic lookup

 error: [import]: ERROR: can't load library in pdp_opengl
 ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.
 [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
 WARNING! this is alpha, the interface could change!
 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3

 Then a lot of error like this one :
 3dp_draw square 8
 ... couldn't create
 etc.

 Any idea ?
 ++

 Jack

 - open Help - Browser, and browse examples - 3dp
 - play with them and see what you get
 - expect crashes and some fun 3D

 .hc


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Steffen Juul wrote:
 
 On 02/06/2008, at 9.48, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 
 finally i have decided to release Gem-0.91 codename 'tigital'.
 
 Cool, thanks.
 
 I just made (with bash+) a pd-patch that instantiate all the 
 object-classes that have a help-patch in the Gem folder. It's attached 
 in case others might find it useful for testing or just for the overview 
 or something else.


thanks for doing so.
alas, it made me discover the first bug already: [pix_buffer] _might_ 
crash due to a buffer-overrun.

if you (or anybody else) finds more bugs till tomorrow, i will hopefully 
fix them and re-release...


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[PD] testing help patches Re: [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Steffen Juul wrote:


 On 02/06/2008, at 9.48, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 finally i have decided to release Gem-0.91 codename 'tigital'.

 Cool, thanks.

 I just made (with bash+) a pd-patch that instantiate all the object- 
 classes that have a help-patch in the Gem folder. It's attached in  
 case others might find it useful for testing or just for the  
 overview or something else.

Looks useful.  That reminds me of my small effort along these lines:

http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/scripts/ 
load_every_help.sh
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/scripts/ 
load_every_object.sh

I like to set these up to run every night, but I don't think I can  
handle the extra load of fixing the broken help files in finds on top  
what I am already trying to manage.  So I want to know if anyone is  
interested in following up on whenever this script finds a missing  
help file.  Basically, it would entail just checking why it failed.   
It could be a help file that causes a crash or a missing helpfile.   
In the case of a missing help file, for example, it would just be a  
matter of making a helpfile and submitting it to the patch tracker  
(or committing it if you have commit access).

.hc


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Re: [PD] strange message at startup

2008-06-02 Thread matteo sisti sette
 On a Windows machine, whenever I start PD Vanilla 0.41.2, I get the
 following message on the pd console at startup:

 Separate audio device choices not supported; using sequential devices.

 However, this is nonsense because I am using ONE input and ONE output
 device, with 2 channels each.


Furthermore, it is followed by a resyncing audio message (just at
startup), even if DSP has not been turned on yet!!

And as soon as I load a patch, which has no dsp objects, and without
enabling dsp, I get TWO resyncing audio messages.

Then I get more resyncing audio messages every once in a while for
example whenever I minimize and restore a patch window full of gui
objects. It does not happen with small patches however.

Again, I am testing this with a big patch full of gui and things but
with no ~objects at all, and without even turning on dsp.


I don't really understand the resyncing audio stuff - I guess it would
imply an audio dropout on an it-does-have-dsp-objects patch... I do
indeed experience resyncinc audio messages on dsp-doing-stuff
patches, but usually I see them after they have appeared and I can't
tell if they are generating dropouts (if thet are, it may be just a
one-block-time silence).

I can't understand what causes those audio resyncs and how to avoid them.

.. any suggestions?

NOTE: I do get resyncing audio even with only 2-channel in/out and
non-asio, as mentioned before.

I'm always on WinXP

Thanks

P.S. someone may suggest using ASIO drivers; however in some situation
I CAN'T use ASIO drivers. Sometimes I need to use an external MOTU
with 4 input channels and I found NO WAY to get it working with asio
with all 4-in and 2-out working (either some input or some output or
both don't work). There's an old thread of mine about that in the
archives with details. The only way I can get a motu to work with
multiple inputs in PD is to use non-asio AND turn on an option in
Motu's configuration called something like legacy mode that makes PD
to be able to recognize its several input channels in standard mode).


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread Steffen Juul

On 02/06/2008, at 14.25, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 if you (or anybody else) finds more bugs till tomorrow, i will  
 hopefully fix them and re-release...

The best i can manage to do right now wrt. finding bugs is to post  
the output, that is printed to the Pd console (shown below). I can  
investigate further if you got specific questions, or, like, things i  
should try out. (I'm really new to Gem. My fist peak at it was a  
~week ago (when i sub'ed my first bug-report).)

- 8 -
  pix_blobtracker
... couldn't create
  pix_buffer_filmopen
... couldn't create
error: [pix_convolve]: matrix must have some dimension
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.
error: [pix_curve]: only 1, 3 or 4 arguments are allowed
[pix_fiducialtrack]:based on fidtrack-library (c) R.Bencina
based on reacTIVision (c) M.Kaltenbrunner, R.Bencina
see http://www.iua.upf.es/mtg/reacTable/
error: error opening configuration file
error: [pix_fiducialtrack]: could not load TreeIdMap from 'all.trees'
[pix_freeframe]: trying to load /path/to/gem_obj_list.pd/.frf/
/path/to/gem_obj_list.pd/.frf/: couldn't load
error: GemException: couldn't load FreeFrame-plugin
  pix_freeframe
... couldn't create
error: [pix_histo]: only 1, 3 or 4 arguments are allowed
  pix_indycam
... couldn't create
[pix_movieDarwin]: constructor
using recordQT
recordQT: 29 codecs installed
recordQT: found pjpeg codec 15 1785750887 65816 ctype
error: GemException: pix_share_*: no ID given
  pix_share_read
... couldn't create
error: GemException: pix_share_*: no ID given
  pix_share_write
... couldn't create
[pix_videoDarwin]: height 320 width 240
[pix_videoDarwin]: SG channnel Device List count 3 index 2
[pix_videoDarwin]: SG channnel Device List  DV Video
[pix_videoDarwin]: SG channnel Device List  IIDC FireWire Video
[pix_videoDarwin]: SG channnel Device List  USB Video Class  
VideoreWireDV.component
error: [pix_videoDarwin]: SGSetChannelDevice returned error -9408
[pix_videoDarwin]: vdigName is Built-in iSight
[pix_videoDarwin]: digitizer rect is top 0 bottom 1200 left 0 right 1600
[pix_videoDarwin]: active src rect is top 0 bottom 1200 left 0 right  
1600
error: [pix_videoDarwin]: could not set SG Rect
[pix_videoDarwin]: set SG NormalQuality
[pix_videoDarwin]: using YUV
  pix_videoDS
... couldn't create
error: [part_velcone]: this is obsolete, use [part_velocity cone x  
y z r] instead
error: [part_velsphere]: this is obsolete, use [part_velocity sphere  
x y z r] instead
error: [curve]: illegal number of points
[gemframebuffer]: default format is GL_RGB, 6407
[gemframebuffer]: default type is BYTE, 5121
  gemorb
... couldn't create
  gemtablet
... couldn't create
  hsv2rgb
... couldn't create
error: [polygon]: illegal number of points
  rgb2hsv
... couldn't create
  rgb2yuv
... couldn't create
error: [text2d]: cannot find font-file '/path/to/gem_obj_list.pd/ 
vera.ttf'
error: [text3d]: cannot find font-file '/path/to/gem_obj_list.pd/ 
vera.ttf'
error: [textextruded]: cannot find font-file '/path/to/ 
gem_obj_list.pd/vera.ttf'
error: [textoutline]: cannot find font-file '/path/to/gem_obj_list.pd/ 
vera.ttf'
  yuv2rgb
... couldn't create
--

As it's show in the output this is on Mac OS. X.4.11 intel version.  
Pd-0.41-4. Gem is loaded with -path /path/to/Gem and -lib Gem.


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Re: [PD] testing help patches Re: [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread Steffen Juul


On 02/06/2008, at 14.35, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Steffen Juul wrote:

I just made (with bash+) a pd-patch that instantiate all the  
object-classes that have a help-patch in the Gem folder. It's  
attached in case others might find it useful for testing or just  
for the overview or something else.


Looks useful.


Attached is the bash script. Beware; it's ugly. But development speed  
over code efficiency, right?




gem_obj_list.sh
Description: Binary data





That reminds me of my small effort along these lines (snip)


Thanks for pointing to that. Unfortunately i haven't got time right  
now to give it a bash (pun intend). Hopefully someone else has. It's  
a good thing to bulk test, i think, to speed things up. Also maybe  
effort put here could be reused in the help-browser (- the thing  
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Steffen Juul wrote:

 error: [textextruded]: cannot find font-file '/path/to/ 
 gem_obj_list.pd/vera.ttf'
 error: [textoutline]: cannot find font-file '/path/to/gem_obj_list.pd/ 
 vera.ttf'
   yuv2rgb
 ... couldn't create
 --
 
 As it's show in the output this is on Mac OS. X.4.11 intel version.  
 Pd-0.41-4. Gem is loaded with -path /path/to/Gem and -lib Gem.


there are several different reasons why some objects cannot create:

- abstractions cannot be found (most of your couldn't create are of 
this type)
Gem uses a number of abstractions which (should) live in 
/path/to/Gem/ (e.g. extra/Gem/; the Gem-binary is _besides_ these 
abstractions, e.g. extra/Gem/Gem.d_fat)
are you sure that this is the path you added (e.g. is there a 
hsv2rgb.pd in this path?)

- help-files do not match the objects; e.g. pix_videoDS-help.pd is 
really a help-file for [pix_video] on w32 (which is a bit different from 
the ordinary [pix_video])

- some objects simply do not exist on every platform, e.g. 
[pix_indycam]; there will come the time when these are gone

- some objects do need a creation-argument e.g. [pix_freeframe] (and no, 
i will not instantiate dummy objects, this should be handled by Pd)

- some objects try to read additional files to be found in the Pd 
searchpath (e.g. [text]-objects require a font (vera.ttf); 
[pix_fiducialtrack] requires a fiducial descriptor file)


so all in all i am quite happy with your output :-)

you did install the universal binary package from gem.iem.at, did you?

fmasdr
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[PD] anything (poly~)-similar in pd?

2008-06-02 Thread lukas
hello everybody,
is there a object in pd which is similar to maxmsp's (poly~)? or are 
there other ways creating a polysynth less workintensive as the one 
which follows with the newest version of pd?

many thanks,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.91.0 released

2008-06-02 Thread Steffen Juul

On 02/06/2008, at 15.38, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 (snip) is there a hsv2rgb.pd in this path?

No. Some tosser didn't append Gem to /path/to/ in the path  
settings.  /..\

 so all in all i am quite happy with your output :-)

I'm also quite happy now. Thanks for straightening it!

 you did install the universal binary package from gem.iem.at, did you?

Indeed I did. Thanks for distributing binaries.

Best,
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[PD] [OT][admin] changing the mailinglist headers

2008-06-02 Thread IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
hi all.

as has been discussed on this list a while ago, i would like to change 
the mailinglist-headers to conform to 
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/pdspelling

this means:
  changing PD to Pd
  changing PureData to Pure Data


what will change:
  the subject of each mail will be prefixed with [Pd] rather than [PD]
  the List-Id will contain a string Pure Data rather than PureData

what will remain:
  the List-Id will still contain the actual ID pd-list.iem.at
  content will stay as super as always


list of affected lists:
Pd-list:
  Subject-prefix: [Pd]
  List-ID: the Pure Data - mailinglist pd-list.iem.at

Pd-announce:
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  List-ID: Announcements for Pure Data pd-announce.iem.at

Pd-dev:
  Subject-prefix: [Pd-dev]
  List-ID: Pure Data developer's list pd-dev.iem.at

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Re: [PD] 3dp/pdp_opengl in Pd-extended

2008-06-02 Thread Jack
OK, now it works ! And it seems very interesting.
Thanx.
However, Pd often crash when I close a patch.
Here the crashLog for information :

Host Name:  powerbook-g4-12-de-rybn12-3
Date/Time:  2008-06-02 18:40:07.944 +0200
OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
Report Version: 4

Command: pd
Path:/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../ 
bin/pd
Parent:  Pd-extended [1272]

Version: ??? (???)

PID:1273
Thread: 0

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:  KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0014

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   pdp_opengl.pd_darwin0x04ee1234 pdp_packet_delete + 52
1   pdp_opengl.pd_darwin0x04ef0868 pdp_3d_windowcontext_free +  
24 (pdp_3d_windowcontext.c:169)
2   pd  0x00039c98 pd_free + 56 (m_pd.c:30)
3   pd  0x7480 glist_delete + 528  
(g_graph.c:129)
4   pd  0x5ea8 canvas_free + 152  
(g_canvas.c:883)
5   pd  0x00039c98 pd_free + 56 (m_pd.c:30)
6   pd  0x0003b814 pd_typedmess + 1092  
(m_class.c:775)
7   pd  0x0003b97c pd_typedmess + 1452  
(m_class.c:796)
8   pd  0x0003f790 binbuf_eval + 1104  
(m_binbuf.c:677)
9   pd  0x00046414 socketreceiver_read + 644  
(s_inter.c:554)
10  pd  0x00044c7c sys_domicrosleep + 316  
(s_inter.c:193)
11  pd  0x00043000 m_scheduler + 1296  
(m_sched.c:492)
12  pd  0x000449f4 sys_main + 1428 (s_main.c:318)
13  pd  0x28fc _start + 760
14  pd  0x2600 start + 48

Thread 1:
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9000b348 mach_msg_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9000b29c mach_msg + 60
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x907de998 __CFRunLoopRun + 832
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x907de29c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 268
4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio   0x91459524 HALRunLoop::OwnThread 
(void*) + 264
5   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio   0x914592c4 CAPThread::Entry 
(CAPThread*) + 96
6   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x90054388  
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x90070be8  
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 556
2   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio   0x9146a6ac CAGuard::WaitFor(unsigned  
long long) + 204
3   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio   0x9146a5bc CAGuard::WaitUntil(unsigned  
long long) + 304
4   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio   0x91468800 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 852
5   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio   0x91468498 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry 
(HP_IOThread*) + 16
6   com.apple.audio.CoreAudio   0x914592c4 CAPThread::Entry 
(CAPThread*) + 96
7   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002c3c8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x90030eac pthread_cond_wait + 480
2   pdp.pd_darwin   0x041bb2b4 pdp_procqueue_thread + 116
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 4:
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002c3c8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x90030eac pthread_cond_wait + 480
2   pdp_opengl.pd_darwin0x04eebb54 pdp_procqueue_thread + 116
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 5:
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002c3c8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib   0x90030eac pthread_cond_wait + 480
2   pdp_opengl.pd_darwin0x04eebb54 pdp_procqueue_thread + 116
3   libSystem.B.dylib   0x9002bd08 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
   srr0: 0x04ee1234 srr1:  
0xf030vrsave: 0x
 cr: 0x24002244  xer: 0x0004   lr:  
0x04ee1234  ctr: 0x90001a38
 r0: 0x04ee1234   r1: 0xbfffdc50   r2:  
0xa0001fac   r3: 0x
 r4: 0x   r5: 0x0007   r6:  
0x   r7: 0x
 r8: 0x0003   r9: 0x  r10:  
0x04ee041c  r11: 0x
r12: 0x90001a38  r13: 0x00092b0c  r14:  
0x00092b0c  r15: 0x00092b0c
r16: 0x00092b0c  r17: 0x00092b0c  r18:  
0x00092b0c  r19: 0x4330
r20: 0x  r21: 0x  r22:  
0x0008f350  r23: 0x00091874
r24: 0x  r25: 0x  r26:  
0x  r27: 0x04f01210
r28: 0x  r29: 0x04efa6b8  r30:  
0x  r31: 0x04ee1210

Binary Images Description:
 0x1000 -0x8efff pd /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ 
Resources/bin/pd
  0x2214000 -  0x223dfff com.grame.Jackmp ??? (0.691)   /Library/ 

[PD] declare who? what?

2008-06-02 Thread Enrique Erne
hi

my original subject was pd-extended: ~ and matrix but now i got 
confused so i renamed it. the newest pd-extended can't create [~] nor 
[matrix] on default.

[~] on the 20080523 could create (with an expr~ couldn't create error) 
now the [~] can't create anymore. should i file a new bug report for 
hexloader or is it covered by
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1637460group_id=55736atid=478070

matrix:
so far netpd provides a [declare -stdlib iemmatrix] and a
[declare -stdpath ../extra/iemmatrix] for pd-extended, but this seems to 
not work anymore. it is working with pd-ext-20080516 and _not_ working 
with 20080523. [matrix] creates when i first do a [iemmatrix/matrix] and 
then load my patches.

i also checked the matrix-help bugreport
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1965876group_id=55736
eighthave says:
I added '#X declare -lib iemmatrix' to the help files, so this should 
work now. Please test tomorrow.

i checked it today and the help files is really working. the declare 
help file says:
-lib load a library, relative to the patch
maybe i must have missunderstand but the patch in this case would be 
netpd's _chat.pd wouldn't it?

relative to _chat.pd on my system would be something like:
../../../Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra
or similar. why is -lib iemmatrix working?

is the declare-help file wrong?

also i am a bit disappointed that one can not write abstractions, that 
declares what it depends on. but probably that has some technical reason.




thanks eni






Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080602-macosx105-i386

  matrix
... couldn't create

load_object: Symbol 0x3c0x7e_setup not found
error: BUG: no pd_objectmaker found
  ~
... couldn't create
load_object: Symbol 0x3c0x7e_setup not found
error: BUG: no pd_objectmaker found
  zexy/~
... couldn't create

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[PD] [PD-announce] NEW ITALIAN FORUM ABOUT PURE DATA

2008-06-02 Thread rajan craveri
Hello to everyone,
  today open the italian Forum about Pure Data,
the link is:
http://www.puredata.it

Hope to see you there
bye

Rajan



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Re: [PD] anything (poly~)-similar in pd?

2008-06-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

polypoly
nqpoly4

You can find nqpoly4 examples in Pd-extended in Help-Browser- 
 5.reference-nqpoly4

.hc

On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:51 PM, lukas wrote:

 hello everybody,
 is there a object in pd which is similar to maxmsp's (poly~)? or are
 there other ways creating a polysynth less workintensive as the one
 which follows with the newest version of pd?

 many thanks,
 lukas

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[PD] search in archives

2008-06-02 Thread Ctrl Alt Back
Hello,

is the namazu on hollidays ? When i try to search for something in Pd
mailing list archives, i get :

Results:
References: [ (can't open the index) ]
No document matching your query.

CtrlAltBack
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[PD] TR909 emulation

2008-06-02 Thread raul diaz
Hi list!

I would like to share with you my TR909 emulation application made with Pd
with a Processing graphical interface.

http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/~i50874/project.php?p1=0p2=0lang=en

I hope you will enjoy it!

Saludos!


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