Re: [PD] kiosk patch
marius schebella wrote: hi, I wanted to test the kiosk.diff patch from sourceforge. I applied the patch and then compiled pd-0.40-3. but when I start Pd I don't see a big difference. Isn't that supposed to run without the pd window popping up and keyboard shortcuts disabled? has anybody ever tested that on mac osx? I am running 10.5.3 now. did I do something wrong? i haven't tried it in a while, but you have to specify the -kiosk (or so) flag when starting Pd in order to make it do anything. iirc, the flag should be mentioned when trying -help. dfma IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] VLC rc connection
what's the current status of this? any VLC_control object yet? max Am 2007-12-07 um 01:03 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I cc'ed the list since I think this is of general interest, also, other people can contribute there as well. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Place pdp render windows in concrete positions
acracia wrote: in the pdp_xv or pdp_glx windows you can use the postdim message example patch attached Thanks!, i didn't know those options for pdp_xv. Anyway, It doesn't have the option of removing the frame of the pdp windows. One more question: who is administrating now pdp to send/ask for modifications of pdp?, pdp seems stopped here: http://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/ Bye www.myspace.com/vjgarff Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:42:13 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Place pdp render windows in concrete positions I wrote: I have a patch that opens 3 pdp render windows. Is it possible to open this windows in concrete positions of my screen when i open the patch? in the pdp_xv or pdp_glx windows you can use the postdim message example patch attached _ Tecnología, moda, motor, viajes,…suscríbete a nuestros boletines para estar siempre a la última Guapos y guapas, clips musicales y estrenos de cine. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] 3gp videos with GEM on windows
Hi I am using 3gp video with GEM on windows and linux. Under windows XP on some machines pix_film does not return the right video length in frames, it returns 1, testing with same video and patches in another machine returns the right length. Does this sound like some Windows issue? maybe some codec that needs to be installed? I need to find a format for video that works fine crossplatform. i also noticed since i upgraded to latest GEM that the 3pg videos play its sound after being loaded. This does not seem to be done via PD (sound is off), the sound plays once after the video is loaded. If the video being rendered the sounds keeps playing looped but chopped, with very short periodical interruptions. thanks enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3gp videos with GEM on windows
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:57 +0200, altern wrote: Hi I am using 3gp video with GEM on windows and linux. Under windows XP on some machines pix_film does not return the right video length in frames, it returns 1, testing with same video and patches in another machine returns the right length. Does this sound like some Windows issue? maybe some codec that needs to be installed? I need to find a format for video that works fine crossplatform. i don't think, that it's the best idea to use a format like 3gp for use with Gem. the goals of the 3gp format and working with video in Gem usually are quite different: 3gp is meant to be a suitable videoformat for small devices with only low resolution and high compression (it uses mainly h.263 and h.264 as video codecs), whereas usually with Gem file size is less important than for instance a fast codec and easy random access to frames. codecs with highly optimized compression usually work only when playing forward at single speed because of certain frametypes that rely on previous and future frames (interframe compression). i think it is best to not use such a codec when used in Gem, but rather an intraframe compression based codec, whereas each frame is compressed separately. from my experience the quicktime mov format with mjpeg (motion jpeg) works quite well and doesn't have too much cpu overhead. probably other people have other suggestions. on windows, avi format with dv codec might be running well (so you don't need to install quicktime). roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3gp videos with GEM on windows
altern wrote: Hi I am using 3gp video with GEM on windows and linux. Under windows XP on some machines pix_film does not return the right video length in frames, it returns 1, testing with same video and patches in another machine returns the right length. Does this sound like some Windows issue? maybe some codec that needs to be installed? I need to find a format for video that works fine crossplatform. is quicktime installed on both machines? which version? (QuickTime is the preferred video decoder library on w32; if it is not available it falls back to DirectShow; the libraries might behave slightly different (though Gem tries hard to make them appear the same) i also noticed since i upgraded to latest GEM that the 3pg videos play its sound after being loaded. This does not seem to be done via PD (sound is off), the sound plays once after the video is loaded. If the video being rendered the sounds keeps playing looped but chopped, with very short periodical interruptions. as you are experiencing changes between versions it is always useful if you can include information about the actual versions you are using (in both cases); compile date _does_ matter! anyhow, i thought i had fixed the audio-playback via the quicktime decoder (no Pd involved) in recent builds (the CVS-commit dates to 2008/05/09) mgfadr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Audio block manipulation strategies
PSPunch wrote: Hi, I am trying to stretch the information in an audio block. i.e., Original: a, b, c, d, e, ... , N(where N is the block size - 1) Modified: a, 0 , b, 0, c, ... , N/2 (later half of the original block can be trashed) if you upsample a signal in a subpatch, you can get this behaviour by specifying the zero-padding upsampling method. however, you will really get: a, 0, b, 0, c, , N, 0 (that is 2*N samples) you can then use this signal to get the desired sample-block... mgasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 0.42? (Was:Re: [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released)
Steffen Juul wrote: On 05/06/2008, at 23.38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pd-0.42.0-extended Pardon my ignorance; what does the 42 mean? hmm, for one thing 42 means the answer. the other thing is, that the current version in SVN (as committed by miller) is labelled 0.42.0-test1. the commit log says no real work yet, just bug fixes and updates. mgfa IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation]
Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Maybe EA had better hire a genuine pro from the pd-list (wink wink). I hope that this thread takes off, since I'm curious what others think on the topic. Spore could be the PR break that Pd has been waiting for! I also think ea should hire pd pros. they probably alrady get job applications... pd and procedural audio generation will also get a push from the book that andy is working on. something like the EAPd should also exist for non-EA games, there already was a discussion about this... marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Multiple audio devices
Hi all, I have a problem how to use multiple audio devices in Pd. I tired to search the archives but didn't find anything useful. Anyway... I have RME Fireface 800 audio interface and RME Octamic microphone pre-amplifier. Octamic is connected to Fireface with ADAT. I'm using Windows XP. I have connected 8 mics to Octamic and 4 mics to Fireface (it also has 4 mic level inputs). The problem is that I don't know how to get all 12 channels to work in Pd. when I start Pd with -listdev, I get audio input devices: 0. Live! Cam Optia AF (Mic) 1. Fireface Analog (1+2) MME 2. Fireface Analog (3+4) MME 3. Fireface Analog (5+6) MME 4. Fireface Analog (7+8) MME 5. Fireface Analog (9+10) MME 6. Fireface SPDIF MME 7. Fireface ADAT1 (1+2) MME 8. Fireface ADAT1 (3+4) MME 9. Fireface ADAT1 (5+6) MME 10. Fireface ADAT1 (7+8) MME 11. Fireface ADAT2 (1+2) MME 12. Fireface ADAT2 (3+4) MME 13. Fireface ADAT2 (5+6) MME 14. Fireface ADAT2 (7+8) MME 15. Fireface Analog (1+2) 16. Fireface Analog (3+4) 17. Fireface Analog (5+6) 18. Fireface Analog (7+8) 19. Fireface Analog (9+10) I can have the 8 Octamic channels if start Pd with -audioindev 7 -inchannels 8. Or the 4 Fireface channel by -audioindev 4 -inchannels 4. But when I try to define both like this, -audioindev 4,7 -inchannels 4,8 pd gives an error separate audio device choice not supported\; using sequential devices. -audioindev 4 -inchannels 12, does not work either. So is it impossible to get the two different devices working simultaneously or is there some kind of hack? Thanks for any help -Mika ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3gp videos with GEM on windows
Roman Haefeli(e)k dio: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:57 +0200, altern wrote: Hi I am using 3gp video with GEM on windows and linux. Under windows XP on some machines pix_film does not return the right video length in frames, it returns 1, testing with same video and patches in another machine returns the right length. Does this sound like some Windows issue? maybe some codec that needs to be installed? I need to find a format for video that works fine crossplatform. i don't think, that it's the best idea to use a format like 3gp for use with Gem. the goals of the 3gp format and working with video in Gem usually are quite different: 3gp is meant to be a suitable videoformat for small devices with only low resolution and high compression (it uses mainly h.263 and h.264 as video codecs), whereas usually with Gem file size is less important than for instance a fast codec and easy random access to frames. codecs with highly optimized compression usually work only when playing forward at single speed because of certain frametypes that rely on previous and future frames (interframe compression). i think it is best to not use such a codec when used in Gem, but rather an intraframe compression based codec, whereas each frame is compressed separately. from my experience the quicktime mov format with mjpeg (motion jpeg) works quite well and doesn't have too much cpu overhead. probably other people have other suggestions. on windows, avi format with dv codec might be running well (so you don't need to install quicktime). thanks for the tips! i dont know much about video compressions so it is very useful. enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3gp videos with GEM on windows
IOhannes m zmoelnig(e)k dio: altern wrote: Hi I am using 3gp video with GEM on windows and linux. Under windows XP on some machines pix_film does not return the right video length in frames, it returns 1, testing with same video and patches in another machine returns the right length. Does this sound like some Windows issue? maybe some codec that needs to be installed? I need to find a format for video that works fine crossplatform. is quicktime installed on both machines? which version? (QuickTime is the preferred video decoder library on w32; if it is not available it falls back to DirectShow; the libraries might behave slightly different (though Gem tries hard to make them appear the same) aha. this sounds like might be the way to investigate. I know i have QT installed but not sure about the second machine. I am going to ask. thanks. i also noticed since i upgraded to latest GEM that the 3pg videos play its sound after being loaded. This does not seem to be done via PD (sound is off), the sound plays once after the video is loaded. If the video being rendered the sounds keeps playing looped but chopped, with very short periodical interruptions. as you are experiencing changes between versions it is always useful if you can include information about the actual versions you are using (in both cases); compile date _does_ matter! i know, i know... but i dont have the second machine with me. I also am fairly sure we had both same version when I did the tests 0.39-3 extended with GEM 0.91-cvs compiled Dec 11 2006. Pretty old one... So I thought this error might be more to do with some codec not being installed on the system, or some windows version issue. I am going to try to get more info on the second system. anyhow, i thought i had fixed the audio-playback via the quicktime decoder (no Pd involved) in recent builds (the CVS-commit dates to 2008/05/09) thank you very much! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3gp videos with GEM on windows
altern wrote: i know, i know... but i dont have the second machine with me. I also am fairly sure we had both same version when I did the tests 0.39-3 extended with GEM 0.91-cvs compiled Dec 11 2006. Pretty old one... So I thought this error might be more to do with some codec not being installed on the system, or some windows version issue. I am going to try to get more info on the second system. afaik, only the QuickTime API exposes the behaviour of automatically playing back the audio (not the DirectShow API) masdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problems with pix_record?
Hello, The pix_record object doesn't seem to work properly. It doesn't record anything and when I send the codeclist message to the object I get: recordQT : 23 codecs installed recordQT : pjpeg codec 23 1785750887 65816 ctype [pix_record]: codec0: '(null)': (null) [pix_record]: codec1: '(null)': (null) [pix_record]: codec2: '(null)': (null) ... the list continues up to codec22. My system is: Windows XP Pd version 0.39.3-extended GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs I checked with a codec reporting utility (SHERLOCK - The Codec Detective) that I have several video codecs installed ranging from AVI to DivX, MPEG-4, QT and many others. Punchic described earlier the same problem http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-05/050307.html Is there some known issue in the pix_record object in the windows version and some solution? Roman Haefeli suggested to: a) try different gem binaries from pd-extended for your operating system. maybe there is one that works. b) check out gem sources from cvs and compile it yourself. therefor you need to have the appropriate libs installed (quicktime and friends) c) use [pix_write] instead of [pix_record] and create a sequence of images. then use a dedicated tool (like 'mplayer') to create a movie file from the image sequence. For me these solution sound a bit random. At least it would be nice to know which gem version has the functioning pix_record or if the problem is somewhere else. Thanks, -Jogi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
This isn't from trunk, but the release branch. In the efforts to make a stable release, I did a code-freeze branch about a month or so ago. So anything done after that will be included in the next release. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:36 PM, ydegoyon wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Which part loads super slow? There could be other things at play there. How fast is your machine? Which platform? It is possible with custom preferences to cause a massive CPU spike on startup, if you forget to include the npath or nloadlib tags. .hc On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Logan wrote: Yes, it loads super-slow. Or should I say sub-slow. Is it because of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release) On 6/6/08, Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) Ha, a minute is nothing : ). I just decided to time the opening of my performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a sequencer) and it took... /fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds. Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro) I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the many externals I use. Cheers Luke XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
That one is stymying IOhannes, if anyone has any suggestions. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:00 PM, hard off wrote: i still get error messages when loading the zexy [~] [~ ] objects. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Soundfile player
I think readanysf~ should do flac, but you'll have to build it from source. For wav, you should look at xplay~ from xsample. Just [import xsample] from Pd-extended. .hc On Jun 5, 2008, at 11:02 AM, joel silvestre wrote: Hi, I'm new to Pd and I'm looking for a wav or flac player with seek and pause capability, something like oggread. Thanks and congratulations for Pd people, Pd is great! joel ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Use the report bug menu item on the Help menu. .hc On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:48 AM, palmieri, ricardo wrote: do u have some page to bug report, or can i do it in the list? im having troubles with a lot of objects. thx palm 2008/6/4 palmieri, ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: oh, sorry... 3DP didnt work in my pbg4 macosx4.11. any tip? palm 2008/6/4 Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdrp
On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:34 AM, marius schebella wrote: Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm, maybe I need to upload a new PDRP version. I think all the patches I have now use declare correctly, at least on my machine :) thanks for answering. I dl pdrp-11 from 10/2007. noanoa was the first one I tested, and it gave me an error, which actually is a bug, but not a declare error. qlist1.txt is not in a subfolder score but in the same directory as the main patch error: score/qlist1.txt: can't open error: score/qlist1.txt: read failed ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. the patch also can't create joystick. steiger loops misses system. manoury jupiter says load_object: Symbol TABLE_setup not found tenney-collage does not find set-line set-line loop1-period ... couldn't create and again it tries to open a file from a score subfolder error: score/reich-qlist.txt: can't open error: score/reich-qlist.txt: read failed ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. so, you are right by saying you use declare correctly, but there are some other bugs still there. btw. I tested with 0.41-4 on intel mac os x 10.5.3. I also tested this with a pdx autobuild (0428) and this throws a lot more errors: for example this error (which is strange, since there is also debounce.d_fat and debounce.pd_darwin, same for scofo): /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/ debounce.d_ppc: dlopen(/Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/ debounce.d_ppc, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/ debounce.d_ppc: mach-o, but wrong architecture /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/ scofo.d_ppc: dlopen(/Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/ scofo.d_ppc, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/ scofo.d_ppc: mach-o, but wrong architecture scofo ... couldn't create but that seems to be a pd-extended bug. Those no suitable image found errors mean that the binaries do not include a version for your CPU. I don't know how Pd-extended could help either way. Try deleting the .d_ppc files or any extra binary files. .hc cheers, marius. cheers Miller On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:08:10PM -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi, seems this project has not attracted much attention in the past. http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/pdrp/ I looked at it because miller mentioned the correct use of declare in the patches http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/ 2006-10/042941.html however, declare is not used in all patches, so many patches don't load correctly. (besides that it is not always easy to find the main patch). one interesting thing though is the use of [declare -path .] marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:20 PM, palmieri, ricardo wrote: hi fellows.. first, i loved the new interface for mac osx. here, in my powerbook g4 OSX.4.11, everything works fine. for now i have three questions: - is very hard to compile the [pix_artoolkit] with artoolkit support? - the [pix_opencv_series] will be great, but is the trouble the opencv dependencies, or have some quick solution to compile it inside the packet? Lluis, Sergi, and I hope to have that all working after this release is done, so sometime in June. - are u thinking in compile the gridflow to the packet, or its a far dream? ;) I think that gridflow would probably be more easily maintained outside of Pd-extended, for now at least. Pd-extended now looks in both a global folder and a user folder on all platforms, so you can install it there and have it just work. .hc anyway, congratulations and thanks a lot for once more great packet hans! palm 2008/6/4 ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Thanks for the merging howto, looks useful. At this point, only bug fixes should be added to the release branch. Adding new code could likely further the delay the release while we wait for the bugs to settle. Right now PDP is sensitive to changes, so it would be best to leave it like it is for this release. The reason for the branch is to make it easier to make a stable release. It is only used during the final release cycle. Then it is back to trunk once the release is done. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 0.42? (Was:Re: [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released)
On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: On 05/06/2008, at 23.38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pd-0.42.0-extended Pardon my ignorance; what does the 42 mean? version 42, like after version 41 ;) That build takes directly from trunk on everything, so it shouldn't really be called extended but rather main+libs. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Grokking [declare]
I added querying to [import] and it now uses the same mechanism as [declare]. [declare -stdpath zexy] only works on Mac OS X, you need to do it like this on Windows and GNU/Linux: [declare -stdpath ../extra/zexy] I am proposing to change this behavior, I think it should start in / path/to/pd/extra. .hc On Jun 7, 2008, at 6:20 AM, Mike McGonagle wrote: Oh, I was also wondering if there could be some sort of 'feedback' from [declare] that tells us what the path is? Maybe there could be an inlet on [declare] that when it receives a bang, it outlets what paths are currently loaded for searching. Mike On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have been following the development of [declare], but sadly every time I have tried to use it, it doesn't appear to work as the help file says it should. I have tried it several different ways: 1. [declare -stdpath extra/zexy] 2. [prime] -- from zexy the [prime] object doesn't get created... version 2: 1. [declare -stdpath zexy] 2. [prime] still no joy... I also tried the same thing, only using -stdlib, but that doesn't seem to load anything either. Next I tried to do something relative to a project folder in my home directory. Inside there, I created a subfolder named 'more' (as in the help file), and in that I have a file 'abstract.pd'. I made a patch in the root of the project, and used this 1. [declare -path more] 2. [abstract] the [abstract] object doesn't get created. I am running Mac OS 10.4.11, running on PPC hardware. I used the latest version of PD Extended (the 0.40.3-extended-20080603). I also tried these same things with Vanilla PD 41.4, and got the same results. Is there some test patch out there that I could use to test these things? Thanks, Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 and py external
All I can say is that I just included the pyext binary from Thomas' site. I don't use it at all, so I don't really know how to go about troubleshooting it. .hc On Jun 6, 2008, at 11:05 AM, altern wrote: hi I am testing a patch that uses py external on windows XP with both pd extended 0.39.3 and 0.40.3 rc1. Because I have python 2.5 installed on my machine and the external is compiled against 2.4 I include in the same folder as the patch the python24.dll and also python's libs, Lib, include and DLLs folders from the python 2.4 distribution. This works fine with PD 0.39, the py external loads ok and my scripts run fine. But same patch in same machine opened with 0.40.3 rc1 does not work. PD says it cannot find python24.dll. I guess it is not looking for it in the folder where the patch is. Are there changes in search path from version 0.39 to 0.40? Do i need to add it manually or something like that? thanks enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pduino problem
hi list, i'm using the arduino object with a diecimila and pduino firmware under pd-extended 0.39 on OS X. when i do [import flatspace] and then [arduino] i get [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Oct 20 2007 at 05:10:25 compiled against Pd version 0.39.3 [import] loaded library: flatspace comport - PD external for unix/windows LGPL 1998-2006, Winfried Ritsch and others (see LICENCE.txt) Institute for Electronic Music - Graz [comport] opened serial line device 0 (/dev/tty.Bluetooth-Modem) moocow/string2any 32 -1 ... couldn't create [arduino]: version_0.4 then i open port 5 with [open 5( it reconnects: [comport] closed /dev/tty.Bluetooth-Modem [comport] opened serial line device 5 (/dev/tty.usbserial-A6004nvF) but on [version( i only get this instead of the version: UNKNOWN_INPUT_COMMAND: 6 0 also i noticed that there is no more arduino help in the browser/ examples/hardware directory. why is that? PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
are you loading cyclone as well? Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one is stymying IOhannes, if anyone has any suggestions. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:00 PM, hard off wrote: i still get error messages when loading the zexy [~] [~ ] objects. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problems with pix_record?
Antti Poikola (TML) wrote: Hello, My system is: Windows XP Pd version 0.39.3-extended GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs when using a version tagged -cvs it is _always_ a good idea to include the compile date in order to find out which exact version this is referring to. anyhow, you could try a more uptodate version of Gem, e.g. by downloading it from http://gem.iem.at/ and finally: [pix_record] on w32 (and osx) relies on QuickTime, so you have to have that installed. fgmdar IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation]
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Maybe EA had better hire a genuine pro from the pd-list (wink wink). I hope that this thread takes off, since I'm curious what others think on the topic. Spore could be the PR break that Pd has been waiting for! I also think ea should hire pd pros. they probably alrady get job applications... pd and procedural audio generation will also get a push from the book that andy is working on. something like the EAPd should also exist for non-EA games, there already was a discussion about this... Note that I didn't intend to run down the work of the Spore Pd team: I think they did an exceptional work. I'm especially impressed by the counterpoint abstraction one of the two was talking about. Automatic counterpoint is a cool idea. Anyone else did something like it? Would be a great addition to the RTC-lib. I think, the number of capable Max/MSP users is still higher than the number of Pd users, and the Spore team clearly showed that they know their way around and can adapt to Pd's peculiarities. It will be interesting to see if there will be more Pd jobs in the gaming industry in the future. (Gaming CEOs take note: I'd be interested!) The biggest problem probably is, what Andy is fighting for: Audio in games is not regarded to be on the same level of importance as graphics. Generally audio/music is created *after* the rest of the game is almost finished. Quite often the music side even is completly outsourced. Game designers and audio people working together as closely as they did with Spore is a rarity (at least outside of the world of music games like Rock Band). Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
When you do address PDP can you include pdp_freeframe and pdp_frei0r into that? I am not sure if i asked you before but these two would be awesome. currently on Linux ppc ubuntu i get a greenish color over all of the pixelizi0r plugin, but not on intel, and of course nothing on osx since they no worky. i know this is a specific request but i just wanted to ask :-) pp Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the merging howto, looks useful. At this point, only bug fixes should be added to the release branch. Adding new code could likely further the delay the release while we wait for the bugs to settle. Right now PDP is sensitive to changes, so it would be best to leave it like it is for this release. The reason for the branch is to make it easier to make a stable release. It is only used during the final release cycle. Then it is back to trunk once the release is done. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you do address PDP can you include pdp_freeframe and pdp_frei0r into that? you could also use the [pix_freeframe] with the gem2pdp bridge. this doesn't help you with frei0r, however. fmarsd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Hi Hans! Could you test it against Pd-vanilla 0.40.3? I suspect it is something with the new look, since it is drawing polygons rather than boxes, but I haven't profiled it. I have tested again with Pd-vanilla 0.40.3 and now abstractions with GOPs loads right. Good work! .hc On Jun 5, 2008, at 7:14 PM, raul diaz wrote: I have notice the same problem on XP with Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 using abstractions with GOPs. But the new look is really nice. Good work! 2008/6/5 João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Raul Diaz Poblete * http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/~i50874/http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/%7Ei50874/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barcelona [Spain] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers -- Raul Diaz Poblete * http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/~i50874/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barcelona [Spain] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation]
my first post - hello list... Yeah, this is exactly how I got started with PD because of this spore's generative music article. Anyway, after a month of learning PD initially knowing nothing about coding stuff, here's a spore inspired PD music that I like to share; http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=StV-NzmTZ1A http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfwxe4qLInA EA may not be able to hire me as I'm not a genuine PD pro, but I had a lot of fun making this patches will continue to do so. :) Also thanks to Andy Farnell with his very informative obiwannabe.com for rescuing my patch, lots of information there if you're into game audio. A very special thanks to Marius Schebella for his guidance to Hans Steiner with the referral. Hopefully would be able to contribute with this list in the future once I get more knowledge. This is a great list btw... keep it up. -ronaldO: - Original Message - From: Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 9, 2008 12:26 am Subject: Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation] To: pd-list@iem.at Maybe EA had better hire a genuine pro from the pd-list (wink wink). I hope that this thread takes off, since I'm curious what others think on the topic. Spore could be the PR break that Pd has been waiting for! ~Kyle On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I think this link is relevant. Cheers list! http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/853810p1.html Indeed this link is relevant, though not to TR909 Emulation3. ;) Anyway, there are some other articles about this talk on the web, including a short video: http://www.youtube.com/v/GHCRzAcGS0Y (anyone has a longer one?) and these short notes: http://www.gamingsteve.com/archives/2008/02/gdc08-liveblogging- procedural-music-in-spore.php This one also has a bigger screnshot: http://jeaninecowen.berkleemusicblogs.com/2008/02/24/gdc-day- three-the-fun-begins/ Interesting observation: Even this little Pd patch is written in what I'd call a Max/MSP style: notice the lack of [trigger]s, the graphical bangs inserted in the middle of cords, use of [coll] and [counter] etc. I hope Spore doesn't hit any execution order bugs. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ULL - one of the Aesir known for his beauty and skill with bow and skis ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] find last error within gop-enabled objects
Hi, I already filed a bug report (1965272) about this, but now I was wondering whether there is some sort of workaround... When you get an error of the kind Inlet: expected foo but got bar and you do a find last error (and the error is trackable), usually PD opens the innermost window containing the object whose inlet caused the error, and selects the object so that its border is highlighted in blue. However, if the object whose inlet caused the error is contained in [an object contained in [an object contained in [...]]] a gop-enabled abstraction or subpatch, PD only shows the outer-most gop-enabled abstraction/subpatch containing the [object containing the [...]] error, instead of opening the inner-most window. Furthermore, because of bug 1965261, the outermost object's border is not even highlighted so only PD knows it is selected. So PD is actually tracking the error but not giving me any clue about where the heck it is. Has anyone found himself in this situation? What do you usually do to quickly track down the error? I'm sure it's the kind of trivial error that I would fix easily If only I knew where it is Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdrp
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jun 6, 2008, at 1:34 AM, marius schebella wrote: Miller Puckette wrote: Hmm, maybe I need to upload a new PDRP version. I think all the patches I have now use declare correctly, at least on my machine :) thanks for answering. I dl pdrp-11 from 10/2007. noanoa was the first one I tested, and it gave me an error, which actually is a bug, but not a declare error. qlist1.txt is not in a subfolder score but in the same directory as the main patch error: score/qlist1.txt: can't open error: score/qlist1.txt: read failed ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. the patch also can't create joystick. steiger loops misses system. manoury jupiter says load_object: Symbol TABLE_setup not found tenney-collage does not find set-line set-line loop1-period ... couldn't create and again it tries to open a file from a score subfolder error: score/reich-qlist.txt: can't open error: score/reich-qlist.txt: read failed ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. so, you are right by saying you use declare correctly, but there are some other bugs still there. btw. I tested with 0.41-4 on intel mac os x 10.5.3. I also tested this with a pdx autobuild (0428) and this throws a lot more errors: for example this error (which is strange, since there is also debounce.d_fat and debounce.pd_darwin, same for scofo): /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/debounce.d_ppc: dlopen(/Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/debounce.d_ppc, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/debounce.d_ppc: mach-o, but wrong architecture /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/scofo.d_ppc: dlopen(/Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/scofo.d_ppc, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Users/marius/pd/pdrp/pdrp-11/patch/chowning-stria/../../lib/scofo.d_ppc: mach-o, but wrong architecture scofo ... couldn't create but that seems to be a pd-extended bug. Those no suitable image found errors mean that the binaries do not include a version for your CPU. I don't know how Pd-extended could help either way. thanks, the correct version is there, but pdx tries to open the wrong one. there is the d_fat, the d_ppc and the pd_darwin. only the d_fat works, I have to delete d_ppc and d_pd_darwin in order to get the d_fat version loaded. this is different behaviour than with pd-vanilla which picks the right binary. Try deleting the .d_ppc files or any extra binary files. yea, that works. thanks, marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation]
my first post - hello list... Yeah, this is exactly how I got started with PD because of this spore's generative music article. Anyway, after a month of learning PD initially knowing nothing about coding stuff, here's a spore inspired PD music that I like to share; http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=StV-NzmTZ1A http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfwxe4qLInA EA may not be able to hire me as I'm not a genuine PD pro, but I had a lot of fun making this patches will continue to do so. :) Also thanks to Andy Farnell with his very informative obiwannabe.com for rescuing my patch, lots of information there if you're into game audio. A very special thanks to Marius Schebella for his guidance to Hans Steiner with the referral. Hopefully would be able to contribute with this list in the future once I get more knowledge. This is a great list btw... keep it up. -ronaldO: - Original Message - From: Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, June 9, 2008 12:26 am Subject: Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation] To: pd-list@iem.at Maybe EA had better hire a genuine pro from the pd-list (wink wink). I hope that this thread takes off, since I'm curious what others think on the topic. Spore could be the PR break that Pd has been waiting for! ~Kyle On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I think this link is relevant. Cheers list! http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/853810p1.html Indeed this link is relevant, though not to TR909 Emulation3. ;) Anyway, there are some other articles about this talk on the web, including a short video: http://www.youtube.com/v/GHCRzAcGS0Y (anyone has a longer one?) and these short notes: http://www.gamingsteve.com/archives/2008/02/gdc08-liveblogging- procedural-music-in-spore.php This one also has a bigger screnshot: http://jeaninecowen.berkleemusicblogs.com/2008/02/24/gdc-day- three-the-fun-begins/ Interesting observation: Even this little Pd patch is written in what I'd call a Max/MSP style: notice the lack of [trigger]s, the graphical bangs inserted in the middle of cords, use of [coll] and [counter] etc. I hope Spore doesn't hit any execution order bugs. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ULL - one of the Aesir known for his beauty and skill with bow and skis ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no help file for Gem objects
manecante wrote: Hello, I installed Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1on Windows XP SP2 and I can't open help file for Gem objects when I right click.Here is the error: sorry, couldn't find help patch for gemhead.pd I' ve tried to put the help files in extra/Gem but it doesn't work neither. afair, pd-extended will put the Gem-binary (Gem.dll) into extra/ whereas it really should go into extra/Gem/ if the Gem.dll is besides the gemhead-help.pd it should correctly find the help-patch for [gemhead]. alternatively you could try to install Gem manually (there is a nice installer for w32 on http://gem.iem.at) which will put the help-patches and binaries in the correct place. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problems with pix_record?
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Antti Poikola (TML) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The pix_record object doesn't seem to work properly. It doesn't record anything and when I send the codeclist message to the object I get: recordQT : 23 codecs installed recordQT : pjpeg codec 23 1785750887 65816 ctype [pix_record]: codec0: '(null)': (null) [pix_record]: codec1: '(null)': (null) [pix_record]: codec2: '(null)': (null) ... the list continues up to codec22. This is really odd. Quicktime reports that you have codecs installed but the call to populate the list fails. I would try setting the codec using the 'dialog' message and see if that works. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Which part loads super slow? There could be other things at play there. How fast is your machine? Which platform? the patch loads super slow. specially if there are gops in it (or nested ones, as in my case) Thinkpad r51, 1,6Ghz, 1Gb Ram. XP. It is possible with custom preferences to cause a massive CPU spike on startup, if you forget to include the npath or nloadlib tags. it does, specially with all the libraries in the startup window - I removed them from the registry anyway. But that isn't related to the problem, and it makes no difference if the externals are previously loaded or not (my gops don't have that many complicated externals anyway) .hc On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Logan wrote: Yes, it loads super-slow. Or should I say sub-slow. Is it because of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release) On 6/6/08, Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) Ha, a minute is nothing : ). I just decided to time the opening of my performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a sequencer) and it took... /fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds. Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro) I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the many externals I use. Cheers Luke XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM
Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 and py external
ok, thanks hans. Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: All I can say is that I just included the pyext binary from Thomas' site. I don't use it at all, so I don't really know how to go about troubleshooting it. .hc On Jun 6, 2008, at 11:05 AM, altern wrote: hi I am testing a patch that uses py external on windows XP with both pd extended 0.39.3 and 0.40.3 rc1. Because I have python 2.5 installed on my machine and the external is compiled against 2.4 I include in the same folder as the patch the python24.dll and also python's libs, Lib, include and DLLs folders from the python 2.4 distribution. This works fine with PD 0.39, the py external loads ok and my scripts run fine. But same patch in same machine opened with 0.40.3 rc1 does not work. PD says it cannot find python24.dll. I guess it is not looking for it in the folder where the patch is. Are there changes in search path from version 0.39 to 0.40? Do i need to add it manually or something like that? thanks enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Grokking [declare]
I did save the patch, and then reopen it. At the same time, though, I didn't think about disabling the .pdrc file. I don't really think that that would have this effect, as I am add more paths to search, on top of those added by .pdrc. Mike On 6/8/08, Matt Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I can't remember for sure but I think [declare] might only work when the patch is loaded. Try the same things you did earlier, but save the patch and reopen it before you add the desired object/abstraction. Someone please correct me if this is wrong. Thanks, Matt Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:15:37 -0500 From: Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD] Grokking [declare] To: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hello all, I have been following the development of [declare], but sadly every time I have tried to use it, it doesn't appear to work as the help file says it should. I have tried it several different ways: 1. [declare -stdpath extra/zexy] 2. [prime] -- from zexy the [prime] object doesn't get created... version 2: 1. [declare -stdpath zexy] 2. [prime] still no joy... I also tried the same thing, only using -stdlib, but that doesn't seem to load anything either. Next I tried to do something relative to a project folder in my home directory. Inside there, I created a subfolder named 'more' (as in the help file), and in that I have a file 'abstract.pd'. I made a patch in the root of the project, and used this 1. [declare -path more] 2. [abstract] the [abstract] object doesn't get created. I am running Mac OS 10.4.11, running on PPC hardware. I used the latest version of PD Extended (the 0.40.3-extended-20080603). I also tried these same things with Vanilla PD 41.4, and got the same results. Is there some test patch out there that I could use to test these things? Thanks, Mike -- Peace may sound simple?one beautiful word? but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. ?Yehudi Menuhin (1916?1999), musician -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20080606/48816c8a/attachment.html -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Grokking [declare]
Hans (or anyone), Is there some patch that is in some release that shows how declare actually works? I can't seem to give it any path that will then be searched for stuff. I know that Miller has said that he uses this all the time, and it works for him. I just can't quite figure out what I am doing wrong, if anything at all... Mike On 6/7/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added querying to [import] and it now uses the same mechanism as [declare]. [declare -stdpath zexy] only works on Mac OS X, you need to do it like this on Windows and GNU/Linux: [declare -stdpath ../extra/zexy] I am proposing to change this behavior, I think it should start in /path/to/pd/extra. .hc On Jun 7, 2008, at 6:20 AM, Mike McGonagle wrote: Oh, I was also wondering if there could be some sort of 'feedback' from [declare] that tells us what the path is? Maybe there could be an inlet on [declare] that when it receives a bang, it outlets what paths are currently loaded for searching. Mike On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have been following the development of [declare], but sadly every time I have tried to use it, it doesn't appear to work as the help file says it should. I have tried it several different ways: 1. [declare -stdpath extra/zexy] 2. [prime] -- from zexy the [prime] object doesn't get created... version 2: 1. [declare -stdpath zexy] 2. [prime] still no joy... I also tried the same thing, only using -stdlib, but that doesn't seem to load anything either. Next I tried to do something relative to a project folder in my home directory. Inside there, I created a subfolder named 'more' (as in the help file), and in that I have a file 'abstract.pd'. I made a patch in the root of the project, and used this 1. [declare -path more] 2. [abstract] the [abstract] object doesn't get created. I am running Mac OS 10.4.11, running on PPC hardware. I used the latest version of PD Extended (the 0.40.3-extended-20080603). I also tried these same things with Vanilla PD 41.4, and got the same results. Is there some test patch out there that I could use to test these things? Thanks, Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation]
On Monday 09 June 2008 06:23:04 Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Maybe EA had better hire a genuine pro from the pd-list (wink wink). I hope that this thread takes off, since I'm curious what others think on the topic. Spore could be the PR break that Pd has been waiting for! One thing to note though is that they confessed having only used Pd to trigger midi events and play samples. There is no actual sound synthesis done by pd in Spore, only notes and messages generation. This was mostly for efficiency reasons, and because sound processing had to use only a predictable amount of cpu ressources. It is likely that any other game will have similar limitations. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Grokking [declare]
Alright, I downloaded the 'pdrp' stuff, and opened up a patch that has [declare] in it, and it appears to be working, as the full patch loads, and nothing is broken... Guess I just need to figure this out why I can't seem to make it work with my stuff... Thanks, Mike On 6/9/08, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans (or anyone), Is there some patch that is in some release that shows how declare actually works? I can't seem to give it any path that will then be searched for stuff. I know that Miller has said that he uses this all the time, and it works for him. I just can't quite figure out what I am doing wrong, if anything at all... Mike On 6/7/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added querying to [import] and it now uses the same mechanism as [declare]. [declare -stdpath zexy] only works on Mac OS X, you need to do it like this on Windows and GNU/Linux: [declare -stdpath ../extra/zexy] I am proposing to change this behavior, I think it should start in /path/to/pd/extra. .hc On Jun 7, 2008, at 6:20 AM, Mike McGonagle wrote: Oh, I was also wondering if there could be some sort of 'feedback' from [declare] that tells us what the path is? Maybe there could be an inlet on [declare] that when it receives a bang, it outlets what paths are currently loaded for searching. Mike On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have been following the development of [declare], but sadly every time I have tried to use it, it doesn't appear to work as the help file says it should. I have tried it several different ways: 1. [declare -stdpath extra/zexy] 2. [prime] -- from zexy the [prime] object doesn't get created... version 2: 1. [declare -stdpath zexy] 2. [prime] still no joy... I also tried the same thing, only using -stdlib, but that doesn't seem to load anything either. Next I tried to do something relative to a project folder in my home directory. Inside there, I created a subfolder named 'more' (as in the help file), and in that I have a file 'abstract.pd'. I made a patch in the root of the project, and used this 1. [declare -path more] 2. [abstract] the [abstract] object doesn't get created. I am running Mac OS 10.4.11, running on PPC hardware. I used the latest version of PD Extended (the 0.40.3-extended-20080603). I also tried these same things with Vanilla PD 41.4, and got the same results. Is there some test patch out there that I could use to test these things? Thanks, Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] WWDC
Are there any PDers in San Francisco for WWDC this Week? Want to meet up? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Spore [was: TR909 emulation]
This is a general feature of procedural audio. In fact Pd plays very nice and has a fixed (predictable) cost for signal rate graphs - but a variable and unpredictable cost for message domain computation. Proc audio eventually beats sample replay on cost because of dynamic level of detail where we get a variable (but predictable) cost for dynamically built signal graphs against a linear fixed cost for sample playback. It's an interesting bit of computer science to think about. I know from talks with EA guys that EAPd ran into some problems and its performance was not spotless. But not for the reasons you state. Andy On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:55:58 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 06:23:04 Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Maybe EA had better hire a genuine pro from the pd-list (wink wink). I hope that this thread takes off, since I'm curious what others think on the topic. Spore could be the PR break that Pd has been waiting for! One thing to note though is that they confessed having only used Pd to trigger midi events and play samples. There is no actual sound synthesis done by pd in Spore, only notes and messages generation. This was mostly for efficiency reasons, and because sound processing had to use only a predictable amount of cpu ressources. It is likely that any other game will have similar limitations. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Use the source ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] PDLua: asserting
Hello Claude, I was wondering if there was something else that 'assert' could do, rather than just sending the message to the console. I am not really sure exactly WHAT it should do, but I think that in building a gui that error messages, such as the lua assert method, that it might be better to have those messages displayable in the gui itself. Any ideas? Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Audio block manipulation strategies
IOhannes, Thank you. I tried what you have suggested with the only existing object I could think of which was [switch~ (N) 1 0.5]. Yes, the out put shown on [tabwrite~] is zero-padded but only as long as the signal remains inside of the sub patch. Can you please tell me if there was a specific procedure you had in mind? -- David Shimamoto PSPunch wrote: Hi, I am trying to stretch the information in an audio block. i.e., Original: a, b, c, d, e, ... , N(where N is the block size - 1) Modified: a, 0 , b, 0, c, ... , N/2 (later half of the original block can be trashed) if you upsample a signal in a subpatch, you can get this behaviour by specifying the zero-padding upsampling method. however, you will really get: a, 0, b, 0, c, , N, 0 (that is 2*N samples) you can then use this signal to get the desired sample-block... mgasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Spotlight Importer for Pd OSX
Hello, Has anyone made a Spotlight Importer for PD? Or is there another way to index all content of PD files for spotlight searches in home folder for example? I just want to search a folder where I have many .pd files for content ex. 'bpm' or whatever... for object/expressions/comments in the patch itself. OSX does not seem to index .pd file content OR am I missing something? thanks! m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
