Re: [PD] pd 0.43 branch with the new GUI code
on linux, right? (I never run make install, so I don't tend to catch these problems - thanks for flagging it) cheers M On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +1000, dmotd wrote: hi hcs, miller, i've been testing some changes i've made locally and i've just noticed in regards to the code miller checked into trunk, that it breaks autotools which is still attempting to install pd-gui (and failing). relevant changes will probably need to be made to 'makefile.in' i guess.. dmotd Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: A complete rewrite of Pd's GUI is starting to be usable. Miller has accepted the core of this code into his repo for 0.43. Now we need to get the whole thing done! There is now a branch for continuing off of Miller's initial 0.43 commit here: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43 There is a wiki page to keep track of progress with build instructions, etc.: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite Try it out on GNU/Linux or Mac OS X, no one's tried to get it running on Windows yet, you could be the first. Shouldn't be too hard since its all Tcl. There is lots of work left to do, and you can contribute in many different ways. We always need testers, try using this Pd version in your normal work, and report any and all bugs, problems, feature ideas, etc. The simplest way is to contribute code is to create a translation for Pd. You can also look thru the Tcl source for things marked TODO and take a stab and doing them. If you want to improve the GUI, make the new Pd window for example, an announce your interest to pd-dev to make sure there are no duplications of efforts. .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,??? she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink- collar temp pool day. - ???Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
I don't think it's impossible. Right now pd~ uses posix pipes, which appear to be available for windows -- but the microsoft-supplied version seemed to have license restrictions that prevented me from using it (e.g., wouldn't be compilable under third-party development platforms). This situation might change (or might already have changed), or indeed there might be a good alternative way to handle the intercommunication (sockets?). It's not a high priority for me right now, I'm afraid. cheers Miller On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:51:06PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi Miller, Will [pd~] ever be available for windows machines? Or is it just not possible to implement (I remember reading about some technical hurdle but I can't remember what it is at the moment)? Thanks, Jonathan --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu wrote: From: Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [PD] pd~ for Max To: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 5:35 AM Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack.? It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~? for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5) thanks M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote: pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] imaginary numbers
Thank you very much as i am on windows, unfortunally there is no gridflow. - and i tried to make sqrt from pd, but it does not like -1. thanks again der.brandt On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, bra...@subnet.at wrote: how is it possible to calculate with imaginary numbers in PD besides the fft stuff. basically, if you know that something is an imaginary number, you can use a real number in its place and just remember to multiply by square root of -1 in your head. but if you want to combine real and imaginary numbers, then you need complex numbers, each of which is a real and an imaginary number. let i be sqrt(-1)... then let's say you have two complex numbers, a+bi, c+di, as four floats. the sum is (a+c)+(b+d)i, that is you add the real parts together, and add the imaginary parts together. From this, you can guess how to subtract. The product formula is (a*c-b*d)+(a*d+b*c)i, which you can often see in Miller's FFT patches as a cluster of four [*~]. You can find more such formulas on Wikipedia, PlanetMath, MathWorld, or other, but if you can't find one or have trouble getting one to work, ask pd-list again. Abstractions could have been made for some of these, especially *, /, exp, log, but I don't think any such library exists. GridFlow provides those operations as an external if you need something fast. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] imaginary numbers
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, bra...@subnet.at wrote: and i tried to make sqrt from pd, but it does not like -1. I'm sorry, I didn't explain this one. In the formulas I gave, i represents square root of -1, but you can't use that as a number in pd because pd only supports plain floats and not complex floats. But a non-complex number system can be used to make a complex number system, and the formulas are usually not very long. A float can only be half of the data of a complex number. It's called complex because it has two parts. The second float stands for the part that is a multiple of i, and the first float stands for the part that is not. It's also often considered as a 2-D vector with extra operators, with the x (cosine) standing for the real part, and the y (sine) standing for the imaginary part. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_numbers#The_complex_plane But don't try to read the whole wikipedia articles on math topics, they're huge and contain much stuff you don't need. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [pix_video] with v4l
Hello! On Linux using Gem 0.92 from SVN I am using [pix_video] with Logitech QuickCam 4000 and v4l driver but the red and blue colours are swapped. Is there a way to instruct [pix_video] to use different colorspace (BGR instead of RGB)? If not what is the cheapest way to convert from one colorspace to the other. How can I get any additional information from pix_video (framerate, resolution ...)? Thanks and take care, Miha ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors
I'm getting close to finishing making all the help patches in the reference folder conform to the PDDP template. I need to add a keyword to pd META for the object author and the help patch authors, something like: AUTHOR Miller Puckette HELP_PATCH_AUTHOR(S) Dave Sabine, Krzysztof Czaja, Jonathan Wilkes (BTW, it's quite easy to parse commas in Pd.) -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdcon 09 videos
Hi friends... i uploaded a long video of the pdcon09...the vide have the day and night adventures, performances and humor... 34 minutes of pd con... the size of complete video is 900 mb... help me for upload totally for your personal edition. i send the html code centerscript type=text/javascript src= http://blip.tv/scripts/pokkariPlayer.js?ver=2009070701;/script script type=text/javascript src= http://blip.tv/syndication/write_player?skin=jsposts_id=2549637source=3autoplay=truefile_type=flvplayer_width=player_height=;/script div id=blip_movie_content_2549637a rel=enclosure href= http://blip.tv/file/get/JoseSantorcuato-PureDataWorldCoventionVideo2009AmateurVideoOfPdconBras180.mov; onclick=play_blip_movie_2549637(); return false;img title=Click to play alt=Video thumbnail. Click to play src= http://blip.tv/file/get/JoseSantorcuato-PureDataWorldCoventionVideo2009AmateurVideoOfPdconBras180.mov.jpg; border=0 title=Click To Play //abr / a rel=enclosure href= http://blip.tv/file/get/JoseSantorcuato-PureDataWorldCoventionVideo2009AmateurVideoOfPdconBras180.mov; onclick=play_blip_movie_2549637(); return false;Click To Play/a /div/center You can erase the object center Also you can see the video in my blog: http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pix_ps3eye object written with flext
Hi list pix_ps3eye is an external (I wrote it using flext) for using Sony Ps3Eye camera in pure data - GEM (windows only), whithout need of direct show driver. Cam specs : 320x240, 120fps / 640x480, 75fps you can download source and dll here : http://nuigroup.com/?ACT=28fid=59aid=4277_dRIP9RqCyc64OAsoKkri ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
yes, here same with Pd-0.42-5 and Max5 on OSX 10.5.8, not yet succeed in: Max window tells nothing about something wrong (pd~ version 0.2 printed to Max window when instantiated) but the pd~ object in pd~.help patcher appears with a dark foreground colorlike if the external is wrong... Cheers, Fred Miller Puckette wrote: Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5) thanks M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote: pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live-coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Enjoy! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pdcon09 edited video
Hi friends... i uploaded a long video of the pdcon09...the vide have the day and night adventures, performances and humor... 34 minutes of pd con... the size of complete video is 900 mb... help me for upload totally for your personal edition. i send the html code centerscript type=text/javascript src= http://blip.tv/scripts/pokkariPlayer.js?ver=2009070701;/script script type=text/javascript src= http://blip.tv/syndication/write_player?skin=jsposts_id=2549637source=3autoplay=truefile_type=flvplayer_width=player_height= /scriptdiv id=blip_movie_content_2549637 a rel=enclosure href= http://blip.tv/file/get/JoseSantorcuato-PureDataWorldCoventionVideo2009AmateurVideoOfPdconBras180.mov; onclick=play_blip_movie_2549637(); return false;img title=Click to play alt=Video thumbnail. Click to play src= http://blip.tv/file/get/JoseSantorcuato-PureDataWorldCoventionVideo2009AmateurVideoOfPdconBras180.mov.jpg; border=0 title=Click To Play //abr / a rel=enclosure href= http://blip.tv/file/get/JoseSantorcuato-PureDataWorldCoventionVideo2009AmateurVideoOfPdconBras180.mov; onclick=play_blip_movie_2549637(); return false;Click To Play/a /div/center You can erase the object center Also you can see the video in my blog: http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] SmsPlayer (smspd / pysms) demo videos online
Hi all, In support of my soon-to-be-finished thesis and the dafx conference I will attend next week, I have put some demo videos online of the real-time synth I designed using software related to libsms, in Pd and python. You can find the videos here: http://mtg.upf.edu/people/eakin?p=Examples I haven't had time yet to make sure all the links work, so would anyone tell me if anything is broken? Or, any other comments/suggestions are welcome too. Cheers, Rich Eakin ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors
Cool, could you post an example of parsing commas in Pd? If its easy to parse the commas from a 'text' object, then that would solve the tags debate. .hc On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting close to finishing making all the help patches in the reference folder conform to the PDDP template. I need to add a keyword to pd META for the object author and the help patch authors, something like: AUTHOR Miller Puckette HELP_PATCH_AUTHOR(S) Dave Sabine, Krzysztof Czaja, Jonathan Wilkes (BTW, it's quite easy to parse commas in Pd.) -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
It probably needs to be compiled for Max5. Anyone with Max5 want to give it a shot? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:43 AM, fred-ordi wrote: yes, here same with Pd-0.42-5 and Max5 on OSX 10.5.8, not yet succeed in: Max window tells nothing about something wrong (pd~ version 0.2 printed to Max window when instantiated) but the pd~ object in pd~.help patcher appears with a dark foreground colorlike if the external is wrong... Cheers, Fred Miller Puckette wrote: Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5) thanks M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote: pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] SmsPlayer (smspd / pysms) demo videos online
Wow, that's some really nice stuff! What's that window that has the FFT bins in it? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Rich E wrote: Hi all, In support of my soon-to-be-finished thesis and the dafx conference I will attend next week, I have put some demo videos online of the real-time synth I designed using software related to libsms, in Pd and python. You can find the videos here: http://mtg.upf.edu/people/eakin?p=Examples I haven't had time yet to make sure all the links work, so would anyone tell me if anything is broken? Or, any other comments/ suggestions are welcome too. Cheers, Rich Eakin ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Daniel Wilcox wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. Indeed. I think I might have to add that to my sig quotes. Chris, mind if I do? .hc Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Daniel Wilcox wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. that's superb, it could be the makings of a manifesto! obfuscated techno competition anyone? cheers chris ;) dmotd ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Daniel Wilcox wrote: Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Sounds like the bottom-up counterpart to some slogan I coined a long time ago: Readymade Solutions Require Readymade Problems; For Everything Else There Is PureData. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:43:36AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Daniel Wilcox wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Hi *, This is pretty funny. Some people from the BBC came along to a live- coding event in London: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221235.stm I was using Pd, which you can see in some of the shots. It was my first time live-coding and it sounded awful like 8-bit alley cats on LSD singing Bob Dylan. Oh man : Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Nice. Indeed. I think I might have to add that to my sig quotes. Chris, mind if I do? Of course not, I'm flattered! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Daniel Wilcox wrote: Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, he says, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. Sounds like the bottom-up counterpart to some slogan I coined a long time ago: Readymade Solutions Require Readymade Problems; For Everything Else There Is PureData. Max and Pd allow almost anyone to synthesize uninteresting timbres almost instantly. Max Mathews in http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node5.html Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] configuring rme multiface on jaunty
Hi, can someone give me some pointers on how to install and configure my hdsp card (pcmcia) + multiface on jaunty, or show me a link where is information that can be understood? When I put the card in nothing happens. My specs are: - thinkpad laptop 32b - jaunty - hdsp+multiface And that's pretty much it. Thanks, João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
Or more likely, a ton of headaches!
~Kyle
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:
Now with Csound for Pd and Max for Live, you could have Csound for Pd for
Max for Live!
.hc
On Aug 27, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Miller,
Will [pd~] ever be available for windows machines? Or is it just not
possible to implement (I remember reading about some technical hurdle
but I can't remember what it is at the moment)?
Thanks,
Jonathan
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu wrote:
From: Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
To: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 5:35 AM
Oops, sorry about that... I
reorganized some stuff and that fell
through a crack. It's back up on:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htmlhttp://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Emsp/software.html
cheers
Miller
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote:
Hi List,
i've been asked by students where to download the
starter drug ?pd~
for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it
is available?
It's neither here:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.htmlhttp://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Etapel/software.html
nor
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htmlhttp://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Emsp/software.html
and here neither:
http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M
max
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[PD] can't view list of an array
Hi, I'm trying to view the list of an array and I'm gettin this error _ wrong # args: should be array_viewlist id wrong # args: should be array_viewlist id while executing array_viewlist .gfxstub7e0270 table10 0 invoked from within .gfxstub7e0270.listview invoke (uplevel body line 1) invoked from within uplevel #0 [list $w invoke] (procedure tk::ButtonUp line 23) invoked from within tk::ButtonUp .gfxstub7e0270.listview (command bound to event) _ I had tried the same in other arrays and always got the same error I'm using Pd version 0.41.4-extended in a intel mac OSX (leopard) Is there some fix for this? thanks Ariane ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors
I think that in practice, the commas will cause problems, since Pd interprets a comma as a message separator. In my experience, at least. Do you have a working example of reading from textfile and doing something with the text with commas in it? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: [bang( | [list append foo, bar] | [$2( | [print] To parse, just use [sel,] Same for semicolon. Also works when reading from [textfile] -Jonathan --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:16 PM Cool, could you post an example of parsing commas in Pd? If its easy to parse the commas from a 'text' object, then that would solve the tags debate. .hc On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting close to finishing making all the help patches in the reference folder conform to the PDDP template. I need to add a keyword to pd META for the object author and the help patch authors, something like: AUTHOR Miller Puckette HELP_PATCH_AUTHOR(S) Dave Sabine, Krzysztof Czaja, Jonathan Wilkes (BTW, it's quite easy to parse commas in Pd.) -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] customizing the new Pd GUI, some examples
I wish to hide connections... oh my! I would be happy with a single global option to hide'em in performance mode (ctrl-e). Does it make sense? -- Muranyi Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC
On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Derek Holzer wrote: It's been clear for quite some time that we need more natural predators in the boring techno ecosystem. Maybe, but last time it happened, it only resulted in the proliferation of a more resistant strain of boring techno, so, watch out! Well, if its fun to watch, then it isn't boring, no? :-D .hc All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for translations for new Pd GUI
On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:15 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/8/28 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Number2 exists because it comes from an external library that was merged into vanilla back then. Number1 still exists because Number2 isn't backwards-compatible with Number1 and so can't actually replace it. Number2 couldn't be made backwards-compatible anymore because it was already used by those who started pd with -lib iemgui. Actually, a special constructor could have been made for that case, similar to how [hradio] and [vradio] also exist as [hdl] and [vdl], but there's also a big mismatch of options between Number1 and Number2, such that it isn't really easy to merge Number1 and Number2 without making a more complicated whole with even more options. Thanks a lot for the explanation! At the end, do we need them both in the Put menu...? All the native gui objects available in Pd Vanilla are listed in the Put menu, so it would seem odd to remove just one of them. Plus, you can't create a number atom by typing a name into an object box. It's only created through the Put menu, or by its shortcut ctrl-3 (well, dynamic patching too). Removing it from the Put menu makes it an obscure object. You could advocate moving Number2 up in the list and giving it the ctrl-3 shortcut, but it currently has some annoying features like: * the number turns red when you scroll * its too wide (almost twice as wide as number atom at width = 5) * label size will change the size of the number * its hard to put the output range back to default once you've changed it Given those drawbacks, I prefer just using Number instead of Number2. Oooo-kay! From the perspective of a translator, this is kind of embarassing, from the perspective of the systematic mind (the Programmer!) still a little bit embarassing, but from a personal point a view, just makes me love her more!! ;o) Thanks for the details. Would be nice to wikify this kind of wisdom - maybe our grandsons will do that? ;o) pdpedia exists, its open for editing: http://pdpedia.org Information wants to be free.-Stewart Brand ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gemwindow and gemcontrol
hello, where can I to get gemwindow and gemcontrol objects for osx 10.4 ppc? thanks a lot: Andrés Ferrari G. http://www.myspace.com/anfex ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ping.
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Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
hum, I'd like to but I never used xcodeproject (3.0 with 10.5.8) something particular to clic on ? (have only experience with terminals in linuxppc ;)) fred Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It probably needs to be compiled for Max5. Anyone with Max5 want to give it a shot? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:43 AM, fred-ordi wrote: yes, here same with Pd-0.42-5 and Max5 on OSX 10.5.8, not yet succeed in: Max window tells nothing about something wrong (pd~ version 0.2 printed to Max window when instantiated) but the pd~ object in pd~.help patcher appears with a dark foreground colorlike if the external is wrong... Cheers, Fred Miller Puckette wrote: Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5) thanks M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote: pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
So, I copyed the MaxAPIs in /Library/Frameworks/ as required in xcodeprojet, then got this error : ...pd~.mxo/Contents/Infoplist does not exist (build failed) fred Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It probably needs to be compiled for Max5. Anyone with Max5 want to give it a shot? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:43 AM, fred-ordi wrote: yes, here same with Pd-0.42-5 and Max5 on OSX 10.5.8, not yet succeed in: Max window tells nothing about something wrong (pd~ version 0.2 printed to Max window when instantiated) but the pd~ object in pd~.help patcher appears with a dark foreground colorlike if the external is wrong... Cheers, Fred Miller Puckette wrote: Oh... good idea (I have only Max 4; my OS is too old to upgrade to 5) thanks M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:32:27PM +0200, Max wrote: pd~ for max does not even launch Pd here. DSP is on. Is there anybody else on the Pd-list who has Max5 installed on OS X who could try this out? thx, Max Am 28.08.2009 um 19:54 schrieb Miller Puckette: I had the same problem for a while... for pd~ to work not only do you have to start dsp in the help window but you also have to have audio going in and out of Max. Otherwise Pd start up but does nothing. cheers M On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:47:11PM +0200, Max wrote: I'm having trouble getting it to run - there is no INSTALL instructions, but i guess pd~.mxo lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-externals/ and pd~.help lives in /Applications/Max5/Cycling\ '74/msp-help/ allthough the other files are called .maxhelp, not .help i restarted Max and created a pd~ Object, it has no in or outlets but i can open the Help from there, switch Audio on and Select the Pd-0.42-5.app but nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? Am 28.08.2009 um 05:35 schrieb Miller Puckette: Oops, sorry about that... I reorganized some stuff and that fell through a crack. It's back up on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote: Hi List, i've been asked by students where to download the starter drug ?pd~ for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it is available? It's neither here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html nor http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and here neither: http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors
It is Pd, so I think we should at least make an effort to make things easy to parse in Pd. I tried your parser using data that is probably closer to what we might use, and it didn't work at all. If someone can get a Pd parser working that can handle the commas well, then I would be OK using commas in the meta data format. Here's my data: tags - pure data, frequency modulation, synthesis file.pd Description: Binary data .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 7:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Yes. But why do you want to parse pd files with pd? The only prototype I saw in the PDDP docs that use this META data was written in c (or maybe it was python, I can't remember). -Jonathan --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:20 PM I think that in practice, the commas will cause problems, since Pd interprets a comma as a message separator. In my experience, at least. Do you have a working example of reading from textfile and doing something with the text with commas in it? .hc On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: [bang( | [list append foo, bar] | [$2( | [print] To parse, just use [sel,] Same for semicolon. Also works when reading from [textfile] -Jonathan --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:16 PM Cool, could you post an example of parsing commas in Pd? If its easy to parse the commas from a 'text' object, then that would solve the tags debate. .hc On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting close to finishing making all the help patches in the reference folder conform to the PDDP template. I need to add a keyword to pd META for the object author and the help patch authors, something like: AUTHOR Miller Puckette HELP_PATCH_AUTHOR(S) Dave Sabine, Krzysztof Czaja, Jonathan Wilkes (BTW, it's quite easy to parse commas in Pd.) -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore file.pdparser.pd Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] customizing the new Pd GUI, some examples
I just made a commit to make this possible. Check how "hide_cords.tcl" and "editmode_look.tcl" in pd-gui-rewrite. They are both in pd/startup/disabled, so you'll need to move them to pd/startup to make them load. They are both triggered by edit mode..hcOn Aug 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, András Murányi wrote:I wish to hide connections... oh my!I would be happy with a single global option to hide'em in performance mode (ctrl-e).Does it make sense?-- Muranyi Andras ___Pd-list@iem.at mailing listUNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:00 AM It is Pd, so I think we should at least make an effort to make things easy to parse in Pd. I tried your parser using data that is probably closer to what we might use, and it didn't work at all. If someone can get a Pd parser working that can handle the commas well, then I would be OK using commas in the meta data format. Here's my data: tags - pure data, frequency modulation, synthesis Hi Hans, I wouldn't expect my example to work as a general solution. If you want a general solution, I'd be happy to take a stab at it, but you haven't said what you want Pd to do with the data example you've provided above. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] customizing the new Pd GUI, some examples
Trippy. Even the xlets disappear!Are segmented patch cords also a possibility now?-Jonathan--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atSubject: Re: [PD] customizing the new Pd GUI, some examplesTo: "András Murányi" muran...@gmail.comCc: pd-list@iem.atDate: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:06 AMI just made a commit to make this possible. Check how "hide_cords.tcl" and "editmode_look.tcl" in pd-gui-rewrite. They are both in pd/startup/disabled, so you'll need to move them to pd/startup to make them load. They are both triggered by edit mode..hcOn Aug 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, András Murányi wrote:I wish to hide connections... oh my!I would be happy with a single global option to hide'em in performance mode (ctrl-e).Does it make sense?-- Muranyi Andras ___Pd-list@iem.at mailing listUNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli -Inline Attachment Follows-___Pd-list@iem.at mailing listUNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] customizing the new Pd GUI, some examples
2009/8/31 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at ... [screenshots] Is the font being changed, or is it just one Pd already uses on a different system than mine? --Stefán ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
