Re: [PD] new readanysf~ for mac intel

2010-07-29 Thread august
 ok. sorry Hans.  I found my sf account again and imported it all  
 myself.

 Please check it out and see if it works.Can someone verify that  
 the
 new Mac binary works?

 thanks-august.


 I committed some small changes to the Makefile, built it and tested it  
 on 10.4/Intel and it loaded.


Cool man.  Thanks checking up on it. 


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[PD] Pd-vanilla 0.42-5 on Maemo N900

2010-07-29 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
We, together with Jari Kleimola, compiled Pd-vanilla 0.42-5 successfully on 
Maemo 5 in N900. After a major Maemo 5 update, it was pretty much 
straightforward with libasound2 Alsa support and minor changes when it 
complains touch and tk related things in makefile. However, Alsa in N900 is a 
plug-in and DSP can be blocked as it can be in use by some other tasks. So, 
even with 22050 sample rate and 100-500ms buffer, we get huge audio cuts. 
Currently we are planning to implement an Alsa backend for Pd usage in N900. 
Seems like making Jack work might take more time/effort. Does anyone have 
suggestions/ideas/implementations on Alsa backend ?

It is a native Pd-vanilla, not PDa or any other token, so you can make your pd 
files work on N900 directly without any need for a specific platform. I will 
post a link later when we document the necessary things.

Koray.


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Re: [PD] pd on armv7 (beagleboard): crackles [SOLVED]

2010-07-29 Thread Damian Stewart
done:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdForBeagleboard

:-)

On 27 Jul 2010, at 15:49, Dan Wilcox wrote:

 Great news. Is there a page on the puredata.info wiki on the Beagle board 
 yet? If not, can add you install steps to it, or at least notes on getting 
 the audio to work with pd?
 
 I wonder why alsa has troubles ... when using oss, can you still use alsa 
 midi? I have thought of trying a beagle board but no midi would be a deal 
 breaker for me
 
 
 On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Damian Stewart wrote:
 
 hi all,
 
 i fixed my issues with Pd on my Beagleboard running Ubuntu. the solution 
 (thanks to Julian Oliver's help) was to load the oss module (sudo modprobe 
 snd-pcm-oss) then run pd using the oss driver (pd -oss), and it sounds just 
 lovely.
 
 thanks for the other help nonetheless!
 
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[PD] Line comportments.

2010-07-29 Thread Olivier Baudu
Hi,

I noticed different strange comportments with [line].

1)
When I send, for exemple, [100 1( to a [line] for the second time the
line give me 100 during 10 sec.
I expected it no to give me anything as it is said in the help-file :
You should also note that if you click that [bng] again a second time,
nothing happens. This is because [line] is already at 1000, so sending it
new instructions to ramp to 1000 is meaningless and has no effect.

2)
When I send [stop( to the line I can get the last send value in the [number
\ I've put under. OK.
But this last value is not use as the new beginning of the next ramp. It's
the last ramp's beginning that is.
Whereas if I send new taget and time during the ramp it's the current value
which is use as the beginning value for the ramp.

3)
I tried to put a [sel ] under the [line ] (with sure sent value by the line)
to reset the line, or to stop the ramp.
But the result is different if the bang is send from the [sel] than if I
click it manually.
-- If I bang manually [stop( the ramp stop, an I get the last value.
-- If the [sel ] bang [stop( the ramp stop but send me the last beginning
value.
I try to put a [i]--[change] under the line expecting to solve the 1)
problem... but it doesn't work.

Is it the same for everyone ?
I use 0.42.5-extended-rc5 on Ubuntu Lucid.

Thank you.

01ivier.
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Re: [PD] abstraction setting its own arguments

2010-07-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

Is there a reason why you don't show an add message for [getargs] in 
the help-png?


As I said in a previous mail yesterday, I forgot to mention add. Then I 
didn't reupload the new version of the page. I just reuploaded it now. See 
it again now, with more details :


  http://gridflow.ca/help/setargs-help.png

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Re: [PD] Gigs with Pd

2010-07-29 Thread Jeffrey Concepcion
I would like to exclude my laptop from live performance, so to be able to
upload my pd patch (or patches) to a device like the beagleboard seems
perfect for my needs.

@Dan Wilcox - Where you able to build your setup? which one did you go
for? how would you be using it (live processing, generation, or
sampling,etc.?)

@Pierre Massat - Can you post pics or a video (with some performance maybe
)of your setup?

Latency is an important issue of course so your thoughts on how to improve
it would be greatly appreciated.

Jeff

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will be working on a gumstix or beagleboard setup on the fall for
 robotcowboy http://www.robotcowboy.com/ and should have my embedded pd
 scripting/software environment and software available for download.  I've
 found a number of guides on running Ubuntu on both of these platforms and
 would appreciate any info you have on compiling pd, etc.

 On May 7, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Ricardo Lameiro wrote:

 Hello list,

 Well i do have in mind some ideas i want to implement with pd/hardware, one
 of them is using a single board computer to run pd
 without GUI, just using some little lcd screen. Maybe using a beagle board,
 that features a ARM Cortex A8 that has some floating point support, with the
 NEON instruction SET(I will need to recompile Pd for that).

 Other than that i can also post the Hardware/Setup i used on some
 performances.

 The hardware list is :
 Computer - Dell Studio 1737
 Audio Interface - Edirol FA-101
 MIDI Foot controller - Behringer FCB1010
 Bassoon bocal pickup
 a wireless send/receive from Sennheiser
 and sometimes I use external sensors, like the wiimote, or some others
 connected to an Arduino board.

 Software side is:

 OS: UbuntuStudio,
 Driver/sound server: Jack/FFADO
 and of course, Pd

 I have a video of one of the performances, it was my first public
 performance using RT effects and using Pd,
 It is not very good, but I am looking forward to improve it.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNsOtl8ia0k

 2010/5/7 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com

 What kind of documentation would you like?
 I can tell you about the hardware:
 - Dell D520 Laptop with Intel Core2 Duo, with Fedora 12 and the Planet
 CCRMA rt kernel.
 - EMU 0404 USB soundcard (2 ins 2 outs)
 - A small Shure transformer to turn the balanced output of the soundcard
 into an unbalanced input for the amp.
 - Foot controller made off the cheapest USB analog gamepad one can find
 (I'd recommend going for a higher quality, though...)

 I could send you some pictures of the controller, too. As i said before i
 doubt that my patch is written well enough for it to be worth sharing. Yet
 i'll always be there to help if someone wants to make his own.

 Pierre

 2010/5/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 It would be great to see some documentation of this setup so that others
 can learn from it.  You might be interested in Pd on Android, iPhone, Maemo,
 etc. and other mobile devices.  Mobile devices are getting quite powerful,
 and they are already small.  Then you'd even have a battery powered setup ;)

 .hc


 On May 2, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:

  Hello everyone!

 There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a
 live context (off the smoother audio thread i think). I just wanted to 
 say
 that i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects.
 I have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent,
 and everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this
 software and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think
 this is the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece 
 of
 hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll
 have the perfect gear (perfect for me).
 Just wanted to share this.

 Cheers!

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[PD] iemguts, [#many]

2010-07-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


In the end, GridFlow will not depend on anything in iemguts, because 
iemguts is being removed from pd-extended. Too bad for the case where 
anyone loads [iemguts/propertybang] after [gf/propertybang] : [#many]'s 
properties dialogue will not open after that.


Oh yeah, two new things in 9.10 : [#many] has a properties dialogue 
abstraction called [#many-prop], and it's made with [gf/propertybang], 
which is also new. Well, there are more new things than just that.


btw, [#many] is going to change soon in an incompatible way : arguments $4 
and $5 are going to disappear and be replaced by something else more 
convenient and automatic. I suppose that this will be the last 
incompatible change for [#many].


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Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM

2010-07-29 Thread Jeffrey Concepcion
That device is out of production, as far as i know.

Jeff

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato 
santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, check this:


 http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router

 Best regards

 José

 2010/7/20 David Kirkpatrick djk_1...@hotmail.com

  Hi,

 The Beagleboard-xM will be coming out shortly and I'd like to use it in a
 stand-alone instrument i'm building. Does anyone know from looking at the
 specs if it'll run Pure Data? I'm fairly sure it'll run PDa but i'd prefer
 to use standard Pure Data if possible.

 Thanks,

 David Kirkpatrick
 Sound and Multimedia Artist
 www.davidk.com.au

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Re: [PD] iemguts, [#many]

2010-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


iemguts was never included in a Pd-extended release, so it has not  
been removed. Dev builds have all sorts of things added and removed  
during the dev process, so you shouldn't count on that stuff.


.hc

On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:



In the end, GridFlow will not depend on anything in iemguts, because  
iemguts is being removed from pd-extended. Too bad for the case  
where anyone loads [iemguts/propertybang] after [gf/propertybang] :  
[#many]'s properties dialogue will not open after that.


Oh yeah, two new things in 9.10 : [#many] has a properties dialogue  
abstraction called [#many-prop], and it's made with [gf/ 
propertybang], which is also new. Well, there are more new things  
than just that.


btw, [#many] is going to change soon in an incompatible way :  
arguments $4 and $5 are going to disappear and be replaced by  
something else more convenient and automatic. I suppose that this  
will be the last incompatible change for [#many].


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Re: [PD] howto get pool

2010-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Stefan Jensen wrote:


Hi,...

Am Mittwoch, den 28.07.2010, 13:36 -0400 schrieb Hans-Christoph  
Steiner:



Welcome to Pd!  You've already jumped quite a hurdle by building your


Thank you, I appreciate it.

own Pd-extended.  It would be great if you could document how you  
did it

on the pure-data wiki.  You could create a new page off of this one:


Sure, I'll do it. I just want to wait til i get all that stuff i need
together and working. Currently only Pool is missing. Than I'll  
try to
make a fedora rpm package for the hole thing. Mainly to make my own  
life

easier, because with Fedora changes happens very fast.

If it worked out ok, i made it available for all, of course.

I don't know, why ccrma don't make a x86_64 Package. So there might be
some issue with internal functions of pd maybe. Anyway, I'll see how  
far

i come.

Currently i tried some examples and it seems that all is working like
expected. But I'm a noop pd-user, so i can not test the hole range of
abilities.

best regards

Stefan



If you are working on packaging for Fedora, it would be super-useful  
if you could make the Fedora packaging for the library template.  That  
is the future for how Pd-extended will be packaged and distributed,  
and there are already many libraries that are based on that template.


http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MakefileTemplate

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Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM

2010-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I just heard of this box, it sounds like it could be very nice for  
embedded Pd.  It runs Debian, so it should be easy to get Pd going on  
it.


http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-guruplugdetails.aspx

.hc

On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Jeffrey Concepcion wrote:


That device is out of production, as far as i know.

Jeff

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

Hi, check this:

http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router

Best regards

José

2010/7/20 David Kirkpatrick djk_1...@hotmail.com
Hi,

The Beagleboard-xM will be coming out shortly and I'd like to use it  
in a stand-alone instrument i'm building. Does anyone know from  
looking at the specs if it'll run Pure Data? I'm fairly sure it'll  
run PDa but i'd prefer to use standard Pure Data if possible.


Thanks,

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Sound and Multimedia Artist
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Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM

2010-07-29 Thread martin.peach

I have one of these:
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit-us.aspx
still running since this spring. It has no display except a couple of LEDs 
though, not sure what Pd can do with it. Two USB ports for external sound card 
or an Arduino maybe? Is it possible to build a no-gui version of Pd?

Martin 

From: h...@at.or.at
To: jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:36:02 -0400
CC: djk_1...@hotmail.com; pd-list@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM


I just heard of this box, it sounds like it could be very nice for embedded Pd. 
 It runs Debian, so it should be easy to get Pd going on it.
http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-guruplugdetails.aspx
.hc
On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Jeffrey Concepcion wrote:That device is out of 
production, as far as i know.
Jeff

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato 
santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, check this:

http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router
 
Best regards
 
José

2010/7/20 David Kirkpatrick djk_1...@hotmail.com
   Hi,

The Beagleboard-xM will be coming out shortly and I'd like to use it in a 
stand-alone instrument i'm building. Does anyone know from looking at the specs 
if it'll run Pure Data? I'm fairly sure it'll run PDa but i'd prefer to use 
standard Pure Data if possible.
 
Thanks,

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Sound and Multimedia Artist
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Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM

2010-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

pd 0.43 no longer needs any building for the GUI side, the Tcl/C code
has been completely eliminated.  So you just build Pd on your platform,
and if it doesn't have Tcl/Tk, you can't use the .tcl files ;)

.hc

On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 19:51 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 I have one of these:
 http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit-us.aspx
 still running since this spring. It has no display except a couple of
 LEDs though, not sure what Pd can do with it. Two USB ports for
 external sound card or an Arduino maybe? Is it possible to build a
 no-gui version of Pd?
 
 Martin 
 
 
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 From: h...@at.or.at
 To: jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:36:02 -0400
 CC: djk_1...@hotmail.com; pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM
 
 
 
 I just heard of this box, it sounds like it could be very nice for
 embedded Pd.  It runs Debian, so it should be easy to get Pd going on
 it.
 
 
 http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-guruplugdetails.aspx
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Jeffrey Concepcion wrote:
 
 That device is out of production, as far as i know.
 
 
 Jeff
 
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato
 santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, check this:
 
 
 http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Products/BM7505_BluePD_programmable_Pure_Data_router
 
 Best regards
 
 José
 
 2010/7/20 David Kirkpatrick djk_1...@hotmail.com
 
 Hi,
 
 The Beagleboard-xM will be coming out shortly
 and I'd like to use it in a stand-alone
 instrument i'm building. Does anyone know from
 looking at the specs if it'll run Pure Data?
 I'm fairly sure it'll run PDa but i'd prefer
 to use standard Pure Data if possible.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David Kirkpatrick
 Sound and Multimedia Artist
 www.davidk.com.au
 
 
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Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM

2010-07-29 Thread Vilson Vieira
2010/7/29 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

 pd 0.43 no longer needs any building for the GUI side, the Tcl/C code
 has been completely eliminated.  So you just build Pd on your platform,
 and if it doesn't have Tcl/Tk, you can't use the .tcl files ;)


can we say pd 0.43 is independent from GUI toolkits at its core? I'm reading
[1] but didn't got this feeling. I'm thinking to use pd as backend and use
GTK or other toolkit to the frontend.

sorry about the OT.

[1] http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite

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Re: [PD] iemguts, [#many]

2010-07-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

btw, [#many] is going to change soon in an incompatible way : arguments $4 
and $5 are going to disappear and be replaced by something else more 
convenient and automatic. I suppose that this will be the last incompatible 
change for [#many].


done. I added [gf/object_bbox] in order to find the element size. If you 
intend to use [#many] with elements that are abstractions, please reply, 
as this new system doesn't allow it yet and I need to figure out how it 
should be done.


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Re: [PD] Beagleboard-xM

2010-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 17:17 -0300, Vilson Vieira wrote:
 2010/7/29 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 pd 0.43 no longer needs any building for the GUI side, the
 Tcl/C code
 has been completely eliminated.  So you just build Pd on your
 platform,
 and if it doesn't have Tcl/Tk, you can't use the .tcl files ;)
 
 can we say pd 0.43 is independent from GUI toolkits at its core? I'm
 reading [1] but didn't got this feeling. I'm thinking to use pd as
 backend and use GTK or other toolkit to the frontend.
 
 sorry about the OT.
 
 [1] http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite

You do not need anything from Tcl/Tk build or run Pd 0.43  in -nogui
mode.  The GUI is still written in Tcl/Tk and pd -- pd-gui
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Re: [PD] Pd-vanilla 0.42-5 on Maemo N900

2010-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Great news!  N900 and Android.  I guess we should do a Palm WebOS port
too. Should be easy at this point :)

.hc

On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 10:54 +0300, Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
 We, together with Jari Kleimola, compiled Pd-vanilla 0.42-5 successfully on 
 Maemo 5 in N900. After a major Maemo 5 update, it was pretty much 
 straightforward with libasound2 Alsa support and minor changes when it 
 complains touch and tk related things in makefile. However, Alsa in N900 is a 
 plug-in and DSP can be blocked as it can be in use by some other tasks. So, 
 even with 22050 sample rate and 100-500ms buffer, we get huge audio cuts. 
 Currently we are planning to implement an Alsa backend for Pd usage in N900. 
 Seems like making Jack work might take more time/effort. Does anyone have 
 suggestions/ideas/implementations on Alsa backend ?
 
 It is a native Pd-vanilla, not PDa or any other token, so you can make your 
 pd files work on N900 directly without any need for a specific platform. I 
 will post a link later when we document the necessary things.
 
 Koray.
 
 
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 Media Lab,
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 School of Art and Design
 http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt
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Re: [PD] Gigs with Pd

2010-07-29 Thread patrick

hi,

why not using a small, but full-feature computer with an usb soundcard. 
cheap, fast, solid:

http://www.workinprogress.ca/biscuit-box-computer/

the main advantage: intel cpu - no need to recompile everything / anything.

à+
pat

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[PD] GridFlow to PDP to GridFlow

2010-07-29 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


new work I made tonight :

  http://gridflow.ca/help/%23to_pdp-help.png
  http://gridflow.ca/help/%23from_pdp-help.png

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Re: [PD] GridFlow to PDP to GridFlow

2010-07-29 Thread ydego...@gmail.com

ola,

i like that, i must say...
that's cool you did it and i take it as good sign

but do you have any news of tom?
well not me

sorry it's my acid humour, you know...

sevy


Mathieu Bouchard wrote:


new work I made tonight :

  http://gridflow.ca/help/%23to_pdp-help.png
  http://gridflow.ca/help/%23from_pdp-help.png

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[PD] Oss and PCM out (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-07-29 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hi everybody,

I remember reading something about enabling the SPDIF output (pcm out) while
using OSS. Unfortunately I couldn't  find it anymore. I am on Ubuntu Lucid.
The digital out of the (onboard) soundcard works when I use ALSA. However,
when I switch to OSS it doesn't even output a sync signal.
I know it can be enabled (probably in modprobe.d) but I don't know how
exactly. Any ideas?

Ingo


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