Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[Lorenzo]

Well, the spike is present only for Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe
So, profiling is here at the moment: cca 4000 guys from germany who 
were using linux and downloaded extended for windows. sounds like a 
robot went berserk (i mean, a script or something).


Andras


But then does this actually report the browser/download agent OS or the 
downloaded file type?


http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/os?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-08

Lorenzo


2010/9/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner mailto:h...@at.or.at>>


It actually seems to be Linux users from Germany, if you look at
the right hand column:


https://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09

.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:38 PM, András Murányi wrote:


hm!
couldn't find an originating web page, but it's all windows and
visitors from germany...


http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09


http://www.google.com/search?q=pure-data&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=iv&sa=X&ei=DrCSTOncOM2TjAef5ZivBQ&ved=0CAwQpwU&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F8%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F9%2F2010#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F7%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A6%2F9%2F2010&q=pure-data+site%3A.de&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=pure-data+site%3A.de&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=16ab8ded4f80e384



maybe this?
http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_-_wo_finde_ich_Hilfe%3F

Andras

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Ludwig Maes
mailto:ludwig.m...@gmail.com>> wrote:

interesting indeed,
somebody might have posted a cool puredata tutorial on
youtube? or ...

On 17 September 2010 00:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner
mailto:h...@at.or.at>> wrote:
>
> I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and
there was a huge
> spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a
day to almost 3,000
> in one day.  Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that day?
>
>

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-02-01+to+2010-09-16
>
> hc
>
>
>


>
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> perish.-William Carlos Williams
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Frank Barknecht]

Hi,

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 06:57:39PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> If Pd-extended 0.42.5 also looks at /usr/lib/pd, then someone could
> install Gem 0.93 there and Pd-extended would use it.  

Doesn't Pd-extended also look somewhere in $HOME? What if a user
installs Gem there? 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[ydego...@gmail.com]

it's just being realistic
how many windows users will really use pd?
or just make a lame download?

Dan Wilcox wrote:

Hoho, throwing down the gauntlet as usual. :D

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:24 PM, ydego...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



ola,

>>> The Windows package is still the most downloaded.

so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more customers? )
do you expect any of these to be great creators???

we'll see hey

sevy



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[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.42.5 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

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Its done and available for download! With this release, we focused on  
fixing lots of bugs with the GUI and Graph-On-Parent. There are still  
some odd things of course, but we have rewritten the GUI from scratch  
for 0.43 so we wanted to make sure we got a stable release out before  
the really major changes that are upcoming. There are of course many  
bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4, here are some highlights:


* pd~ object lets you run a patch on multiple CPUs
* Windows builds should be much more stable
* fixed lots of Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
* lots of work on supporting user-installed libraries
* complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
* working 64-bit builds for Mac OS X and Windows
* full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
* a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries

For more details, check the release notes:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.42.5/Pd-0.42.5-extended_svn_changelog.html/view

Downloading
- ---

You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows, and  
of course the source code:


http://puredata.info/downloads

Bugs
- 

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! Also check the bug tracker  
before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the  
same issue, please add your information there:


http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Dan Wilcox]

Hoho, throwing down the gauntlet as usual. :D

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:24 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

> ola,
> 
> >>> The Windows package is still the most downloaded.
> 
> so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more customers? )
> do you expect any of these to be great creators???
> 
> we'll see hey
> 
> sevy


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Re: [PD] [#spigot]

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, patko wrote:

Hello, since I'm trying to deal with vanilla on vista, (still same 
problem about pd.dll, need to figure out how to compile with MSVC, 
because it's not possible with mingw, without a lot of changes, see 
topic: http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg37389.html),

 I can't try out gridflow right now, but will let you know if I get it 
working...


Do you mean that you are trying to compile GridFlow on Vista with 
Vanilla ?


Can you find the offending declaration inside of GridFlow's *.cxx files 
and prepend it with EXTERN in majuscules ?


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[ydego...@gmail.com]

ola,

>>> The Windows package is still the most downloaded.

so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more customers? )
do you expect any of these to be great creators???

we'll see hey

sevy

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Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[Pedro Lopes]

Is it the same IP? Is it possible for to check? unless it was a complex
script, it would appear as the same ip.

2010/9/17 András Murányi 

> Well, the spike is present only for Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe
> So, profiling is here at the moment: cca 4000 guys from germany who were
> using linux and downloaded extended for windows. sounds like a robot went
> berserk (i mean, a script or something).
>
> Andras
>
> 2010/9/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>
>
>> It actually seems to be Linux users from Germany, if you look at the right
>> hand column:
>>
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:38 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>>
>> hm!
>> couldn't find an originating web page, but it's all windows and visitors
>> from germany...
>>
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09
>>
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=pure-data&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=iv&sa=X&ei=DrCSTOncOM2TjAef5ZivBQ&ved=0CAwQpwU&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F8%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F9%2F2010#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F7%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A6%2F9%2F2010&q=pure-data+site%3A.de&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=pure-data+site%3A.de&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=16ab8ded4f80e384
>>
>> maybe this?
>> http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_-_wo_finde_ich_Hilfe%3F
>>
>> Andras
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Ludwig Maes wrote:
>>
>>> interesting indeed,
>>> somebody might have posted a cool puredata tutorial on youtube? or ...
>>>
>>> On 17 September 2010 00:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was a
>>> huge
>>> > spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to almost
>>> 3,000
>>> > in one day.  Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that day?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-02-01+to+2010-09-16
>>> >
>>> > hc
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to
>>> realize
>>> > his wishes.  Now that he can realize them, he must either change them,
>>> or
>>> > perish.-William Carlos Williams
>>> >
>>> >
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[PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle this Sunday 9/19, 3-8pm

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Its that time again, time for a little Pd/Max patching.  We are  
following up on previous Pd/Android work with an 0.1 release.  So  
bring your Android phones and we'll have Pd apps ready for  
installing.  We've tested on the G1, Droid, Nexus One, and Droid  
Incredible, but we are looking for a wide range of devices.  Pd should  
run on any Android phone running Android 1.6 or newer.


Additionally, the libpd that was created for Pd/Android has also been  
ported to OpenFrameworks and Java.  We are now looking for some  
intrepid Processing hackers to get Pd embedded into Processing.


We'll be at NYC Resistor this Sunday from 3-8pm.

http://puredata.info/community/NYCPatchingCircle

We spend enough time alone staring at our computers; we are proposing
to work together. So often issues that arise when working can be
solved with a quick two minute discussion that would take hours to
solve alone. We have Dorkbot to see people's work, we have Share where
anyone can play, we have workshops and universities to learn from.
This is a meeting where we all can come to work.

This is an informal gathering of patching and patchers (Pd, Max/MSP/
Jitter, and even , Eyesweb, Labview, etc.). Beginners and
Experienced welcome. Open to everyone, students, the public, etc. Work
on personal projects, professional projects, school projects, ask for
help, help others, or just patch quietly to yourself, in a room full of
other people patching patches and helping other people patch.

Every third Sunday of the month, so this Sunday, August 15th!
3-8pm (a little later than before)
Free!

Directions
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Patching Circle, http://puredata.info/community/NYCPatchingCircle
NYC Resistor, http://www.nycresistor.com/
Sunday, Sept 19th, 3-8pm

87 3rd Avenue, (between Bergen and Dean), 4th Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11217
Tel. +1.347.850.4872 or +1.347.586.9270

2/3/4/5/B/D/Q/N/R to Atlantic/Pacific
LIRR to Atlantic Terminal
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Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[András Murányi]

Well, the spike is present only for Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe
So, profiling is here at the moment: cca 4000 guys from germany who were
using linux and downloaded extended for windows. sounds like a robot went
berserk (i mean, a script or something).

Andras

2010/9/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner 

>
> It actually seems to be Linux users from Germany, if you look at the right
> hand column:
>
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09
>
> .hc
>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:38 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>
> hm!
> couldn't find an originating web page, but it's all windows and visitors
> from germany...
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09
>
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=pure-data&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=iv&sa=X&ei=DrCSTOncOM2TjAef5ZivBQ&ved=0CAwQpwU&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F8%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F9%2F2010#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F7%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A6%2F9%2F2010&q=pure-data+site%3A.de&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=pure-data+site%3A.de&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=16ab8ded4f80e384
>
> maybe this?
> http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_-_wo_finde_ich_Hilfe%3F
>
> Andras
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Ludwig Maes wrote:
>
>> interesting indeed,
>> somebody might have posted a cool puredata tutorial on youtube? or ...
>>
>> On 17 September 2010 00:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>> >
>> > I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was a
>> huge
>> > spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to almost
>> 3,000
>> > in one day.  Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that day?
>> >
>> >
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-02-01+to+2010-09-16
>> >
>> > hc
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> >
>> > Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to
>> realize
>> > his wishes.  Now that he can realize them, he must either change them,
>> or
>> > perish.-William Carlos Williams
>> >
>> >
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Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

It actually seems to be Linux users from Germany, if you look at the  
right hand column:


https://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09

.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:38 PM, András Murányi wrote:


hm!
couldn't find an originating web page, but it's all windows and  
visitors from germany...


http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09

http://www.google.com/search?q=pure-data&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=iv&sa=X&ei=DrCSTOncOM2TjAef5ZivBQ&ved=0CAwQpwU&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F8%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F9%2F2010#sclient 
=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F7%2F2010%2Ccd_max 
%3A6%2F9%2F2010&q=pure-data+site%3A.de&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=pure-data 
+site%3A.de&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=16ab8ded4f80e384


maybe this? 
http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_-_wo_finde_ich_Hilfe%3F

Andras

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Ludwig Maes  
 wrote:

interesting indeed,
somebody might have posted a cool puredata tutorial on youtube? or ...

On 17 September 2010 00:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner   
wrote:

>
> I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was  
a huge
> spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to  
almost 3,000

> in one day.  Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that day?
>
> 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-02-01+to+2010-09-16
>
> hc
>
>
>  


>
> Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how  
to realize
> his wishes.  Now that he can realize them, he must either change  
them, or

> perish.-William Carlos Williams
>
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Re: [PD] MIDI connection graph at each beat?

[András Murányi]

thanks for the advice.
the symptom has disappeared (which is all i was wishing for), but if it ever
returns, i'll do a checkup

Andras

2010/9/13 Pedro Lopes 

> Does it bounce with any MIDI app or just pd?
>
> Try rosegarden for instance.
>
> 2010/9/13 András Murányi 
>
>> 2010/9/5 András Murányi 
>>
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>> I'm having a new problem with ALSA MIDI: obseving QJackCtl's ALSA
>>> Connections and the Mesages it seems the MIDI connection graph changes with
>>> each MIDI message that is to be sent out. There is no effective output (when
>>> there shall be). Looks like MIDI gets reset with every output, using
>>> noteout-help.pd as well.
>>> Pd version 0.42.5-extended latest autobuild, 64-bit.
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry for bouncing this.
>> I think it's not a bug whatsoever, but i've messed up something. I've just
>> seen the same on my friend's box (very different Pd version, 32-bit, the
>> only same are Lucid and Jack).
>> Any hints? I'm kinda stuck :-/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andras
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 on apt.puredata.info

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Sep 16, 2010, at 7:42 PM, jm jones wrote:


2010/9/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner :


So I posted the released packages to the apt repository  
apt.puredata.info.
 I'd appreciate if people let me know whether it works for them.   
On Debian
and Ubuntu, its probably the easiest way to upgrade to Pd-extended  
0.42.5:


http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian

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Oh, is lucid repo ok now??? until yesterday  it was not available, and
I needed to install the  pdextended from your site, and install pd
vainilla via synaptic. Without vainilla, extended doesn't work (in 64
bits ubuntu). In the 32 bits version of unbuntu, the package from your
site worked ok, without pd vainilla.



I just posted the packages today to the apt repo today.

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Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[Pedro Lopes]

> from about 300 a day to almost 3,000 in one day
The more, the merrier :)

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Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[András Murányi]

hm!
couldn't find an originating web page, but it's all windows and visitors
from germany...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/Pd-0.41.4-extended.exe/stats/timeline?dates=2010-06-08+to+2010-06-09

http://www.google.com/search?q=pure-data&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=iv&sa=X&ei=DrCSTOncOM2TjAef5ZivBQ&ved=0CAwQpwU&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F8%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F9%2F2010#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A6%2F7%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A6%2F9%2F2010&q=pure-data+site%3A.de&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=pure-data+site%3A.de&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=16ab8ded4f80e384

maybe this?
http://web.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/Pure_Data_-_wo_finde_ich_Hilfe%3F

Andras

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Ludwig Maes  wrote:

> interesting indeed,
> somebody might have posted a cool puredata tutorial on youtube? or ...
>
> On 17 September 2010 00:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
> >
> > I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was a huge
> > spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to almost
> 3,000
> > in one day.  Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that day?
> >
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-02-01+to+2010-09-16
> >
> > hc
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 on apt.puredata.info

[Pedro Lopes]

Okay, just upgraded on Ubuntu 9.10, via synaptic. All seems fine, tested a
couple of my patches.

Nice work!

p.s.: the toggle console was a new feature hans? I don't remember to see
that there :)

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>
> So I posted the released packages to the apt repository apt.puredata.info.
>  I'd appreciate if people let me know whether it works for them.  On Debian
> and Ubuntu, its probably the easiest way to upgrade to Pd-extended 0.42.5:
>
> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
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[PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 on apt.puredata.info

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

So I posted the released packages to the apt repository  
apt.puredata.info.  I'd appreciate if people let me know whether it  
works for them.  On Debian and Ubuntu, its probably the easiest way to  
upgrade to Pd-extended 0.42.5:


http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian

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Re: [PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[Ludwig Maes]

interesting indeed,
somebody might have posted a cool puredata tutorial on youtube? or ...

On 17 September 2010 00:16, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
>
> I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was a huge
> spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to almost 3,000
> in one day.  Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that day?
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-02-01+to+2010-09-16
>
> hc
>
>
> 
>
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> perish.    -William Carlos Williams
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Re: [PD] metadata in pd

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> Plus soundfile_info was just updated so it works much better.  wavinfo is 
> still 
>somewhat buggy.  But yeah, we should have something to read WAV markers > and 
>all of the metadata.


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Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

[Derek Holzer]

Suggestion: decide the agenda for the next meeting at the meetings 
themselves, and have people volunteer to present things. Maybe too North 
American or Northern European a style? ;-)


Nobody says you should volunteer yourself, but also I think people come 
when they have an idea of the program and whether it is interesting for 
them or not. No theme at all could in fact equal no interest at all. And 
if no one volunteers, perhaps "curate" something...


D.

On 9/16/10 1:24 PM, João Pais wrote:

that is true, the thing is there is no boss in this group (I don't want
to say what the people are going to do). so, there is no agenda really.
or anyone has something that he wants to show?
I prefer the format where people discuss than the one that one lectures,
and the others listen (which is suggested by having a "fixed" program).
not to say that someone might think "theme ? I know already enough
about it, won't go this time".

I also don't have the time to be preparing materials and making a pd
class out of this (for that people can ask me or Servando for a
workshop). that's why that for now I prefer the anarquic treatment,
where everyone is equal.



I have to agree with M here, posting an agenda or at least a fresh
list of topics might encourage [more] people to come.

D.

On 9/14/10 7:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote:


What's the programme for this particular meeting ?


no programme so far, most likely the usual show-and-tell of patches,
answering questions...


You only need to make a list of patches in advance for the
show-and-tell, that's all. Just have everybody write one or two
sentences per patch that will be shown. It's not very hard to do. It
doesn't prevent you from improvising things that are not on the
schedule...








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[PD] what happen to Pd on June 8th?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I was just looking at the Pd-extended download stats and there was a  
huge spike on June 8th and 9th of this year, from about 300 a day to  
almost 3,000 in one day.  Anyone know what happened in Pd land on that  
day?


http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/files/pd-extended/0.41.4/stats/timeline?dates=2010-02-01+to+2010-09-16

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Thanks!  I always forget that it takes me a full day to iron out all  
the details of posting a release...  almost done.


.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:


Yea! Go Hans, go Hans.

On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



Ok, with a couple of minor changes from rc6, the release is up!   
Now I just to sort out the details and write up the announcement.


http://puredata.info/downloads

.hc



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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Dan Wilcox]

Yea! Go Hans, go Hans.

On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> 
> Ok, with a couple of minor changes from rc6, the release is up!  Now I just 
> to sort out the details and write up the announcement.
> 
> http://puredata.info/downloads
> 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Ok, with a couple of minor changes from rc6, the release is up!  Now I  
just to sort out the details and write up the announcement.


http://puredata.info/downloads

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Re: [PD] q: [iem_image]

[Kim Cascone]

as always, thank you for your invaluable information! :)
perfect!

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Kim Cascone wrote:

I'm reading the help file for the [iem_image] object and I see a way 
to change the position of a hosted gif (using 'delta' and 'pos') but 
no way to change its size I do see that you can see the size of a 
file is there a command to set the size of a gif with [iem_image]?


If you do it with png files and [#see] instead, you can do all the 
modifications you want on the picture at load time or later run time, 
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:


On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 09:58 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:


On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain
libraries
will be there, and they will be a certain version.  For example
Pd-extended 0.42.5 includes Gem 0.92.3.  So you can say "my patch
works
with Pd-extended 0.42.5" and it'll work with any installation of
Pd-extended 0.42.5.


I totally got that. And I never meant to put that in question.


If Pd-extended 0.42.5 also looks at /usr/lib/pd, then someone could
install Gem 0.93 there and Pd-extended would use it.  Let's say Gem
0.93
introduces an obscure bug which breaks your patch.  Then someone
who has
installed Pd-extended 0.42.5 can no longer be sure that the patch
will
always work with Pd-extended 0.42.5.


That's why I proposed to put the path /usr/lib/pd/extra last in the
order. So Pd-extended would still load it's own Gem and not the
manually
installed one. It's really *_only_* about making it easier to load
libraries that are *_not_yet_* part of Pd-extended while at the same
time not interfere with the libraries that are already part of
Pd-extended. I hope I could make myself clear now.


Its not clear what the result would be with that, and I want to get
this release out.
Anyone is still free to add /usr/lib/pd/extra to
their path, so its not a big deal.


I was assuming (and still believe) that adding a path at the end would
be not big deal. But yeah, doing it manually is also no big deal.

There is one major disadvantage by adding it using the menu, though:  
You

have no control of the order. I added it and it was not put at the end
of the current list. So to me it seems, that adding manually has a
higher chance of making someone's Pd-extended installation  
incompatible

with others. Again, this could be avoided if the path would be already
hard-coded at the end of the path list.

Please, don't get me wrong, I don't think, that is issue is utterly
important and needs to be fixed right now, but I hesitate to stop a
discussion when I feel that my arguments weren't understood. I'm OK  
with

letting it rest until 0.43 is released.

Roman


For future reference, if you test this with many patches on all  
platforms, then I would start to be convinced that is it ok.  It may  
not be apparent, but I do a lot of testing, and I do it on Ubuntu, Mac  
OS X, Windows XP/7.  I installed Windows 7 just to have it available  
for testing, as much as that sucked.  The Windows package is still the  
most downloaded.


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Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Michal Seta wrote:

Following the advice given in this thread I created a [mtx_mul~] and it 
seems to behave the same as [mtx_*~].  Yet, [mtx_*~] alone is impossible 
to use.  The rationale of this feature escapes me.


It depends on the build. Roman has been making fixes to pd-extended so 
that the separate-external build works correctly. When aliases inside the 
source code are not reflected as aliases in the filesystem, this is what 
you get.


Another way to avoid the problem is to build all of iemmatrix as an 
all-together library (one pd_linux for all externs). Some people have been 
doing that while pd-extended's build of iemmatrix was broken.


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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Roman Haefeli]

On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 09:58 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >> When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain  
> >> libraries
> >> will be there, and they will be a certain version.  For example
> >> Pd-extended 0.42.5 includes Gem 0.92.3.  So you can say "my patch  
> >> works
> >> with Pd-extended 0.42.5" and it'll work with any installation of
> >> Pd-extended 0.42.5.
> >
> > I totally got that. And I never meant to put that in question.
> >
> >> If Pd-extended 0.42.5 also looks at /usr/lib/pd, then someone could
> >> install Gem 0.93 there and Pd-extended would use it.  Let's say Gem  
> >> 0.93
> >> introduces an obscure bug which breaks your patch.  Then someone  
> >> who has
> >> installed Pd-extended 0.42.5 can no longer be sure that the patch  
> >> will
> >> always work with Pd-extended 0.42.5.
> >
> > That's why I proposed to put the path /usr/lib/pd/extra last in the
> > order. So Pd-extended would still load it's own Gem and not the  
> > manually
> > installed one. It's really *_only_* about making it easier to load
> > libraries that are *_not_yet_* part of Pd-extended while at the same
> > time not interfere with the libraries that are already part of
> > Pd-extended. I hope I could make myself clear now.
> 
> Its not clear what the result would be with that, and I want to get  
> this release out. 
>  Anyone is still free to add /usr/lib/pd/extra to  
> their path, so its not a big deal.

I was assuming (and still believe) that adding a path at the end would
be not big deal. But yeah, doing it manually is also no big deal.

There is one major disadvantage by adding it using the menu, though: You
have no control of the order. I added it and it was not put at the end
of the current list. So to me it seems, that adding manually has a
higher chance of making someone's Pd-extended installation incompatible
with others. Again, this could be avoided if the path would be already
hard-coded at the end of the path list.

Please, don't get me wrong, I don't think, that is issue is utterly
important and needs to be fixed right now, but I hesitate to stop a
discussion when I feel that my arguments weren't understood. I'm OK with
letting it rest until 0.43 is released.

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Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2010-09-16 16:53, Michal Seta wrote:
> [mtx_mul~] and it seems to behave the same as [mtx_*~].  Yet, [mtx_*~]
> alone is impossible to use.  The rationale of this feature escapes me.

in pd-extended, iemmatrix is somewhat broken (which is not iemmatrix's
fault but the way how pd-extended likes libraries to be)

afaik, this has been fixed in the upcoming pd-extended (at least of you
load the hexloader)

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Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

[Michal Seta]

I also run across another thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg37440.html which states
that [mtx_mul~] has been deprecated.  Yet, deprecated objects are
needed to be able to instantiate their replacements.  What gives?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Michal Seta  wrote:
> Hmmm...  I run across this thread when searching for information about
> [mtx_*~].  If I load iemmatrix and I instantiate [matrix~] it tells me
> that it is deprecated and please replace by [mtx_*~].  Which is fine
> until I save, quit Pd and reopen the patch after which  [mtx_*~] is no
> longer available until I again instantiate the deprecated [matrix~]
> again.  Following the advice given in this thread I created a
> [mtx_mul~] and it seems to behave the same as [mtx_*~].  Yet, [mtx_*~]
> alone is impossible to use.  The rationale of this feature escapes me.
>
> Is it safe to use [mtx_mul~] (i.e. it will not become deprecated
> sometime in the foreseeable future in favour of its * brother)?
>
> Thanks
>
> ./MiS
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:20 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig  wrote:
>> Max wrote:
>>> where is [mtx_*]?
>>
>> it's in iemmatrix.
>>
>>>
>>> i've loaded iemmatrix and iem_matrix
>>
>> try instantiating [mtx_mul].
>> afterwards you might be able to use [mtx_*] directly.
>>
>> gfmadr
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Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote:

I prefer the format where people discuss than the one that one lectures, and 
the others listen (which is suggested by having a "fixed" program).


The pdmtl#36 meeting yesterday was an example of a meeting with a "fixed" 
programme, that turned out to be quite interactive and quite improvised.


I think that this is a barrier that can easily broken (just because the 
programme has been written down, doesn't mean it can't turn into something 
a bit different), and in the end, the real force turning the programme 
into a fixed programme, is the total number of people. Yesterday we were 
only seven, and it was a lot more flexible than when we were twenty-three, 
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Re: [PD] can't find mtx_*

[Michal Seta]

Hmmm...  I run across this thread when searching for information about
[mtx_*~].  If I load iemmatrix and I instantiate [matrix~] it tells me
that it is deprecated and please replace by [mtx_*~].  Which is fine
until I save, quit Pd and reopen the patch after which  [mtx_*~] is no
longer available until I again instantiate the deprecated [matrix~]
again.  Following the advice given in this thread I created a
[mtx_mul~] and it seems to behave the same as [mtx_*~].  Yet, [mtx_*~]
alone is impossible to use.  The rationale of this feature escapes me.

Is it safe to use [mtx_mul~] (i.e. it will not become deprecated
sometime in the foreseeable future in favour of its * brother)?

Thanks

./MiS

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:20 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig  wrote:
> Max wrote:
>> where is [mtx_*]?
>
> it's in iemmatrix.
>
>>
>> i've loaded iemmatrix and iem_matrix
>
> try instantiating [mtx_mul].
> afterwards you might be able to use [mtx_*] directly.
>
> gfmadr
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Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

[João Pais]

You could encourage people to post on this list with ideas that they  
want to talk about.


a way to organise that is in the wiki of the meetings,  
http://puredata.info/community/organization/pd-berlin/pd-berlin-users-group/.  
that's a better place for that, as there is no list dialog on this group -  
most of them are beginners, and to my knowledge aren't very active in the  
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Re: [PD] metadata in pd

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Well, for me it actually works on all the .wav files I tried, where  
before it failed often.


.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Paulo Casaes wrote:

It has been my experience with PD-Extended 0.41.4 that wavinfo does  
not work on windows.


How does soundfile_info work better with these updates?

Paulo

On 16/09/2010 11:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Plus soundfile_info was just updated so it works much better.   
wavinfo is still somewhat buggy.  But yeah, we should have  
something to read WAV markers and all of the metadata.


.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Paulo Casaes wrote:

In PD extended there is [wavinfo] and [soundfile_info] which gives  
yout he number of channels, sampling rate, size and other info.  
Does that help?


Paulo

On 16/09/2010 02:41, ronni montoya wrote:

Hello, how can i read and save metadata of .aif or wav files in pd?

thanks in advace

R.

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Re: [PD] metadata in pd

[Paulo Casaes]

 It has been my experience with PD-Extended 0.41.4 that wavinfo does 
not work on windows.


How does soundfile_info work better with these updates?

Paulo

On 16/09/2010 11:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Plus soundfile_info was just updated so it works much better.  wavinfo 
is still somewhat buggy.  But yeah, we should have something to read 
WAV markers and all of the metadata.


.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Paulo Casaes wrote:

In PD extended there is [wavinfo] and [soundfile_info] which gives 
yout he number of channels, sampling rate, size and other info. Does 
that help?


Paulo

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Hello, how can i read and save metadata of .aif or wav files in pd?

thanks in advace

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Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

You could encourage people to post on this list with ideas that they  
want to talk about.


.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 7:24 AM, João Pais wrote:

that is true, the thing is there is no boss in this group (I don't  
want to say what the people are going to do). so, there is no agenda  
really. or anyone has something that he wants to show?
I prefer the format where people discuss than the one that one  
lectures, and the others listen (which is suggested by having a  
"fixed" program). not to say that someone might think "theme ? I  
know already enough about it, won't go this time".


I also don't have the time to be preparing materials and making a pd  
class out of this (for that people can ask me or Servando for a  
workshop). that's why that for now I prefer the anarquic treatment,  
where everyone is equal.



I have to agree with M here, posting an agenda or at least a fresh  
list of topics might encourage [more] people to come.


D.

On 9/14/10 7:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote:


What's the programme for this particular meeting ?


no programme so far, most likely the usual show-and-tell of  
patches,

answering questions...


You only need to make a list of patches in advance for the
show-and-tell, that's all. Just have everybody write one or two
sentences per patch that will be shown. It's not very hard to do. It
doesn't prevent you from improvising things that are not on the  
schedule...






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Re: [PD] metadata in pd

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Plus soundfile_info was just updated so it works much better.  wavinfo  
is still somewhat buggy.  But yeah, we should have something to read  
WAV markers and all of the metadata.


.hc

On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Paulo Casaes wrote:

In PD extended there is [wavinfo] and [soundfile_info] which gives  
yout he number of channels, sampling rate, size and other info. Does  
that help?


Paulo

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Hello, how can i read and save metadata of .aif or wav files in pd?

thanks in advace

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:


On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain  
libraries

will be there, and they will be a certain version.  For example
Pd-extended 0.42.5 includes Gem 0.92.3.  So you can say "my patch  
works

with Pd-extended 0.42.5" and it'll work with any installation of
Pd-extended 0.42.5.


I totally got that. And I never meant to put that in question.


If Pd-extended 0.42.5 also looks at /usr/lib/pd, then someone could
install Gem 0.93 there and Pd-extended would use it.  Let's say Gem  
0.93
introduces an obscure bug which breaks your patch.  Then someone  
who has
installed Pd-extended 0.42.5 can no longer be sure that the patch  
will

always work with Pd-extended 0.42.5.


That's why I proposed to put the path /usr/lib/pd/extra last in the
order. So Pd-extended would still load it's own Gem and not the  
manually

installed one. It's really *_only_* about making it easier to load
libraries that are *_not_yet_* part of Pd-extended while at the same
time not interfere with the libraries that are already part of
Pd-extended. I hope I could make myself clear now.


Its not clear what the result would be with that, and I want to get  
this release out.  Anyone is still free to add /usr/lib/pd/extra to  
their path, so its not a big deal.


.hc




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Re: [PD] q: [iem_image]

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Kim Cascone wrote:

I'm reading the help file for the [iem_image] object and I see a way to 
change the position of a hosted gif (using 'delta' and 'pos') but no way 
to change its size I do see that you can see the size of a file is there 
a command to set the size of a gif with [iem_image]?


If you do it with png files and [#see] instead, you can do all the 
modifications you want on the picture at load time or later run time, 
using any pixel-processing objects from GF, GEM and/or PDP.


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Re: [PD] metadata in pd

[Paulo Casaes]

 In PD extended there is [wavinfo] and [soundfile_info] which gives 
yout he number of channels, sampling rate, size and other info. Does 
that help?


Paulo

On 16/09/2010 02:41, ronni montoya wrote:

Hello, how can i read and save metadata of .aif or wav files in pd?

thanks in advace

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Re: [PD] metadata in pd

[Lorenzo]

Ed Kelly wrote:

I think we need to address this. Unless I am mistaken, there is no way to read
metadata or markers from a wav or aif file in PD.

This is an interesting topic.

I am particularly interested in markers, since this would allow the preparation
of sample-accurate loop lengths, or chop-points for beats etc in another package
before importing them into PD. I've done some preparatory work looking into the
WAV file header, but I'm a bit too busy with other projects at the moment to
give it a spin...maybe later.
What do you think of a different approach where the 'other package' were 
able to export marker information (e.g. name time-stamp) to a simple 
text-file usable in Pd?

Do you think this would fit the scenarios you mentioned?

Lorenzo.

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Re: [PD] [#spigot]

[patko]

 Hello, since I'm trying to deal with vanilla on vista, 
 (still same problem about pd.dll, need to figure out how to compile with MSVC,
  because it's not possible with mingw, without a lot of changes,
  see topic: http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg37389.html),
  I can't try out gridflow right now, but will let you know if I get it 
working...

- "Mathieu Bouchard"  a écrit :

> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010, patko wrote:
> 
> > hello, is there a way to redim a grid following a map of zeroes and
> ones?
> 
> there is now [#compress] in GF 9.12 starting tonight.
> 
> see the help file and tell me what you think.
> 
> (it is named after an operator of the APL language, just like several
> 
> other GF classes)
> 
>  
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Ed Kelly]

Perhaps for those of us who already know our way around the unix filesystem and 
PD libraries, we could just

sudo cp -r /usr/lib/pd/extra/* /path/to/pdextended

...or perhaps just add /usr/lib/pd/extra to the startup path.

I think if one knows how to compile an extern it's probably a safe bet that one 
knows how to link, copy, sudo etc.

Perhaps in fact, the best way to deal with this is to put some lines like:
"
If you are using externals you have compiled yourself, you may want to put the 
following path into the startup paths from File->Path... (Linux / Windows) or 
PD->Settings...->Path... (Mac OSX):

/usr/lib/pd/extra
"

...into the Readme.html file.

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To: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
Cc: Pd List 
Sent: Thu, 16 September, 2010 8:22:18
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain libraries
> will be there, and they will be a certain version.  For example
> Pd-extended 0.42.5 includes Gem 0.92.3.  So you can say "my patch works
> with Pd-extended 0.42.5" and it'll work with any installation of
> Pd-extended 0.42.5.

I totally got that. And I never meant to put that in question. 

> If Pd-extended 0.42.5 also looks at /usr/lib/pd, then someone could
> install Gem 0.93 there and Pd-extended would use it.  Let's say Gem 0.93
> introduces an obscure bug which breaks your patch.  Then someone who has
> installed Pd-extended 0.42.5 can no longer be sure that the patch will
> always work with Pd-extended 0.42.5.

That's why I proposed to put the path /usr/lib/pd/extra last in the
order. So Pd-extended would still load it's own Gem and not the manually
installed one. It's really *_only_* about making it easier to load
libraries that are *_not_yet_* part of Pd-extended while at the same
time not interfere with the libraries that are already part of
Pd-extended. I hope I could make myself clear now.


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Re: [PD] metadata in pd

[Ed Kelly]

I think we need to address this. Unless I am mistaken, there is no way to read 
metadata or markers from a wav or aif file in PD.

I am particularly interested in markers, since this would allow the preparation 
of sample-accurate loop lengths, or chop-points for beats etc in another 
package 
before importing them into PD. I've done some preparatory work looking into the 
WAV file header, but I'm a bit too busy with other projects at the moment to 
give it a spin...maybe later.

Ed

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Hello, how can i read and save metadata of .aif or wav files in pd?

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Re: [PD] Pd-berlin meeting next tuesday, 21st September, 18h00 INSTEAD OF 20h00

[João Pais]

that is true, the thing is there is no boss in this group (I don't want to  
say what the people are going to do). so, there is no agenda really. or  
anyone has something that he wants to show?
I prefer the format where people discuss than the one that one lectures,  
and the others listen (which is suggested by having a "fixed" program).  
not to say that someone might think "theme ? I know already enough  
about it, won't go this time".


I also don't have the time to be preparing materials and making a pd class  
out of this (for that people can ask me or Servando for a workshop).  
that's why that for now I prefer the anarquic treatment, where everyone is  
equal.



I have to agree with M here, posting an agenda or at least a fresh list  
of topics might encourage [more] people to come.


D.

On 9/14/10 7:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote:


What's the programme for this particular meeting ?


no programme so far, most likely the usual show-and-tell of patches,
answering questions...


You only need to make a list of patches in advance for the
show-and-tell, that's all. Just have everybody write one or two
sentences per patch that will be shown. It's not very hard to do. It
doesn't prevent you from improvising things that are not on the  
schedule...






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[PD] [PD-announce] Cours du soir Pure Data en région parisienne (Mains d'Oeuvres à Saint-Ouen)

[Jack]

In french only...

Bonjour, il reste quelques places pour participer aux cours du soir sur
Pure Data, lesquels auront lieu à partir du 28 septembre à Mains
d'Oeuvres (Saint-Ouen).
Toutes les infos sont ici :
http://www.mainsdoeuvres.org/article1019.html
N'hésitez pas à faire circuler l'info si vous connaissez des gens
susceptibles d'être intéressés...
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Jack




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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Roman Haefeli]

On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:57 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> When people use Pd-extended 0.42.5, they expect that certain libraries
> will be there, and they will be a certain version.  For example
> Pd-extended 0.42.5 includes Gem 0.92.3.  So you can say "my patch works
> with Pd-extended 0.42.5" and it'll work with any installation of
> Pd-extended 0.42.5.

I totally got that. And I never meant to put that in question. 

> If Pd-extended 0.42.5 also looks at /usr/lib/pd, then someone could
> install Gem 0.93 there and Pd-extended would use it.  Let's say Gem 0.93
> introduces an obscure bug which breaks your patch.  Then someone who has
> installed Pd-extended 0.42.5 can no longer be sure that the patch will
> always work with Pd-extended 0.42.5.

That's why I proposed to put the path /usr/lib/pd/extra last in the
order. So Pd-extended would still load it's own Gem and not the manually
installed one. It's really *_only_* about making it easier to load
libraries that are *_not_yet_* part of Pd-extended while at the same
time not interfere with the libraries that are already part of
Pd-extended. I hope I could make myself clear now.


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