Re: [PD] Extended version for Natty AMD64?

2011-07-05 Thread batinste
Oops, sorry. I made some changes earlier on the server. It's ok now.

On 05/07/2011 05:38, Mario Mey wrote:
 The link is dead.



 El 04/07/11 18:04, batinste escribió:
 Here it is :

 http://notsocomplicated.org/share/Pd-0.42.5-extended.deb

 On 04/07/2011 21:06, Mario Mey wrote:
 Yes, it's ok, I don't use visuals. The externals that I'm using are:
 mp3play~, peakenv~, peakenv_hold~, packOSC, udpsend, udpreceive,
 unpackOSC, routeOSC.

 Please, upload somewhere. Thanks!

 El 03/07/11 14:08, batinste escribió:
 Hi

 We were talking about this particular topic some days, ago, you should
 have searched :)
 I did compile pd extended for natty 64, but it's lacking some libs due
 to my lack of compiling skills, so my build does not include pdp,
 pidip,
 gem2pdp, pdp_opengl.

 #LIB_TARGETS += hid pdp pidip gem2pdp iem16 pdp_opengl postlude
 LIB_TARGETS += hid iem16 postlude


 Just tell me and ill upload it somewhere.


 On 03/07/2011 17:56, Mario Mey wrote:
 Hello, everybody. Is there any build for Natty AMD64 of the Extended
 version? For the moment, I don't want to compile it...

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Re: [PD] Extended version for Natty AMD64?

2011-07-05 Thread batinste
notsocomplicated.org is my self-hosted site, it's only a small desktop
computer and my DSL connection has a max upload of 80ko/s, so yes it's
slow but acceptable. I tried through .ch and .ca VPN servers, and though
the download speed is limited to 8ko/s by the VPN service, the website
was responding pretty fast. I guess you have to blame your ISP or his
DNS on this...

No way i put this on Dropbox or any other cloud service, sorry.

You can try to follow Hans' instructions and build it by yourself :
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2011-06/089537.html
see also here : http://puredata.info/docs/developer/DebianWheezyAmd64
You just have to modify the makefile as i did and install all the -dev
libraries needed.

On 05/07/2011 14:23, Mario Mey wrote:
 Now, it's taking so much time to open notsocomplicated.org...

 Dropbox?


 El 05/07/11 03:58, batinste escribió:
 Oops, sorry. I made some changes earlier on the server. It's ok now.

 On 05/07/2011 05:38, Mario Mey wrote:
 The link is dead.



 El 04/07/11 18:04, batinste escribió:
 Here it is :

 http://notsocomplicated.org/share/Pd-0.42.5-extended.deb

 On 04/07/2011 21:06, Mario Mey wrote:
 Yes, it's ok, I don't use visuals. The externals that I'm using are:
 mp3play~, peakenv~, peakenv_hold~, packOSC, udpsend, udpreceive,
 unpackOSC, routeOSC.

 Please, upload somewhere. Thanks!

 El 03/07/11 14:08, batinste escribió:
 Hi

 We were talking about this particular topic some days, ago, you
 should
 have searched :)
 I did compile pd extended for natty 64, but it's lacking some
 libs due
 to my lack of compiling skills, so my build does not include pdp,
 pidip,
 gem2pdp, pdp_opengl.

 #LIB_TARGETS += hid pdp pidip gem2pdp iem16 pdp_opengl postlude
 LIB_TARGETS += hid iem16 postlude


 Just tell me and ill upload it somewhere.


 On 03/07/2011 17:56, Mario Mey wrote:
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 Extended
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Re: [PD] Extended version for Natty AMD64?

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


You can upload it to puredata.info if you want.

.hc

On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:06 AM, batinste wrote:


notsocomplicated.org is my self-hosted site, it's only a small desktop
computer and my DSL connection has a max upload of 80ko/s, so yes it's
slow but acceptable. I tried through .ch and .ca VPN servers, and  
though

the download speed is limited to 8ko/s by the VPN service, the website
was responding pretty fast. I guess you have to blame your ISP or his
DNS on this...

No way i put this on Dropbox or any other cloud service, sorry.

You can try to follow Hans' instructions and build it by yourself :
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2011-06/089537.html
see also here : http://puredata.info/docs/developer/DebianWheezyAmd64
You just have to modify the makefile as i did and install all the - 
dev

libraries needed.

On 05/07/2011 14:23, Mario Mey wrote:

Now, it's taking so much time to open notsocomplicated.org...

Dropbox?


El 05/07/11 03:58, batinste escribió:

Oops, sorry. I made some changes earlier on the server. It's ok now.

On 05/07/2011 05:38, Mario Mey wrote:

The link is dead.



El 04/07/11 18:04, batinste escribió:

Here it is :

http://notsocomplicated.org/share/Pd-0.42.5-extended.deb

On 04/07/2011 21:06, Mario Mey wrote:
Yes, it's ok, I don't use visuals. The externals that I'm using  
are:

mp3play~, peakenv~, peakenv_hold~, packOSC, udpsend, udpreceive,
unpackOSC, routeOSC.

Please, upload somewhere. Thanks!

El 03/07/11 14:08, batinste escribió:

Hi

We were talking about this particular topic some days, ago, you
should
have searched :)
I did compile pd extended for natty 64, but it's lacking some
libs due
to my lack of compiling skills, so my build does not include  
pdp,

pidip,
gem2pdp, pdp_opengl.

#LIB_TARGETS += hid pdp pidip gem2pdp iem16 pdp_opengl postlude
LIB_TARGETS += hid iem16 postlude


Just tell me and ill upload it somewhere.


On 03/07/2011 17:56, Mario Mey wrote:

Hello, everybody. Is there any build for Natty AMD64 of the
Extended
version? For the moment, I don't want to compile it...

Thanks!

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[PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi All,

I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a peculiar
problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of the
board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9 and
10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of the
last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they start
working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to the
first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for all 8
inputs.

So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or pduino
(no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write a
simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial monitor
the values of my digital inputs.

Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or was it
just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow at
start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it randomly
decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or warns me
that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The fact
that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart the
software doesn't seem to make any difference.

This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science to me.

Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.

Thank you.

Pierre
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Re: [PD] Extended version for Natty AMD64?

2011-07-05 Thread batinste
Here you are, good sir :

http://puredata.info/Members/dwan/Pd-0.42.5-extended-amd64/view

On 05/07/2011 18:05, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 You can upload it to puredata.info if you want.

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:06 AM, batinste wrote:

 notsocomplicated.org is my self-hosted site, it's only a small desktop
 computer and my DSL connection has a max upload of 80ko/s, so yes it's
 slow but acceptable. I tried through .ch and .ca VPN servers, and though
 the download speed is limited to 8ko/s by the VPN service, the website
 was responding pretty fast. I guess you have to blame your ISP or his
 DNS on this...

 No way i put this on Dropbox or any other cloud service, sorry.

 You can try to follow Hans' instructions and build it by yourself :
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2011-06/089537.html
 see also here : http://puredata.info/docs/developer/DebianWheezyAmd64
 You just have to modify the makefile as i did and install all the -dev
 libraries needed.

 On 05/07/2011 14:23, Mario Mey wrote:
 Now, it's taking so much time to open notsocomplicated.org...

 Dropbox?


 El 05/07/11 03:58, batinste escribió:
 Oops, sorry. I made some changes earlier on the server. It's ok now.

 On 05/07/2011 05:38, Mario Mey wrote:
 The link is dead.



 El 04/07/11 18:04, batinste escribió:
 Here it is :

 http://notsocomplicated.org/share/Pd-0.42.5-extended.deb

 On 04/07/2011 21:06, Mario Mey wrote:
 Yes, it's ok, I don't use visuals. The externals that I'm using
 are:
 mp3play~, peakenv~, peakenv_hold~, packOSC, udpsend, udpreceive,
 unpackOSC, routeOSC.

 Please, upload somewhere. Thanks!

 El 03/07/11 14:08, batinste escribió:
 Hi

 We were talking about this particular topic some days, ago, you
 should
 have searched :)
 I did compile pd extended for natty 64, but it's lacking some
 libs due
 to my lack of compiling skills, so my build does not include pdp,
 pidip,
 gem2pdp, pdp_opengl.

 #LIB_TARGETS += hid pdp pidip gem2pdp iem16 pdp_opengl postlude
 LIB_TARGETS += hid iem16 postlude


 Just tell me and ill upload it somewhere.


 On 03/07/2011 17:56, Mario Mey wrote:
 Hello, everybody. Is there any build for Natty AMD64 of the
 Extended
 version? For the moment, I don't want to compile it...

 Thanks!

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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is an
error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can be
traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
tomorrow.

 

Ingo

 

 

 



Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
Pierre Massat

Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36

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Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

 

Hi All,

 

I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

 

I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a peculiar
problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of the
board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9 and
10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of the
last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they start
working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to the
first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for all 8
inputs.

 

So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or pduino
(no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write a
simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial monitor
the values of my digital inputs. 

 

Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or was it
just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow at
start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it randomly
decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or warns me
that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The fact
that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart the
software doesn't seem to make any difference. 

 

This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science to me.

 

Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.

 

Thank you.

 

Pierre

 

 

 

 

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[PD] Ubuntu Studio - which kernel? generic - generic-pae - rt ?

2011-07-05 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hi,

does anybody know which would be the most efficient kernel for low latency
with Ubuntu Studio on Lucid?

- generic
- generic-pae
- realime

(BTW I am using Pd-extended 0.42.5 on an Athlon II X2 dual core with one
audio patch and one separate Gem patch connected with netsend / netreceive)

I am not sure if the realtime kernel is any more optimized than the regular
Ubuntu Studio generic kernel since it hasn't been updated in a while.
Can the generic-pae kernel actually slow down Pd or is this more of a
theoretical additional delay in addressing the extended memory?
I am using 4GB of ram but could live with 3.2GB if the non pae kernel is
faster.

I have made the experience that I need the proprietary ATI graphic drivers
for smooth audio playback. I'm not sure if these drivers can interfere with
the realtime kernel and make it even less efficient than the generic kernel.

It takes a lot of time to actually try out all of these options. So, any
experience would be greatly appreciated!

Ingo


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[PD] watching PD tutorial video using vlc and running PD at same time sound issues

2011-07-05 Thread Rick T
Greetings All

I'm using PD extended 0.42.5 and vlc 1.1.10 on Ubuntu 64 bit.  I'm trying to
play the tutorial videos in vlc while pd is running but the two seem to
fight over the sound card and PD seems to win so I can't hear the PD
tutorial audio.  Is there a way that I can watch the pd video tutorials in
vlc  and use the PD program at the same time so sound comes out of both?

Tia
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[PD] USB-MIDI not working anymore after installing Realtek sound drivers

2011-07-05 Thread Ingo
Hi everybody,

after installing the proprietary sound drivers of a realtek ACM 892 on
Ubuntu 10.4 my USB-MIDI drivers stopped working completely.
No interface (out of 3) shows up in /proc/asound/cards anymore.

Does anybody know how to reinstall USB-MIDI drivers.

Thanks, Ingo


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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Ingo
I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
with the first two switches seperately.

I'll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.

 

And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?

 

It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.

 

Ingo

 

 

  _  

Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
An: Ingo Scherzinger
Cc: Ingo Scherzinger
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

 

Can we fix that??

Pierre

2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de

I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others within a
8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the on
message and send the first off. So you have to press the button twice.
Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block and
return to the first one.

Ingo


Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
An: Ingo Scherzinger
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad


Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for starting a
new thread.
I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
second digital input socket).

Pierre
2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is an
error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can be
traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
tomorrow.

Ingo




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Pierre Massat
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
An: pd-list
Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Hi All,

I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a peculiar
problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of the
board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9 and
10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of the
last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they start
working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to the
first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for all 8
inputs.

So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or pduino
(no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write a
simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial monitor
the values of my digital inputs.

Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or was it
just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow at
start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it randomly
decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or warns me
that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The fact
that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart the
software doesn't seem to make any difference.

This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science to me.

Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.

Thank you.

Pierre



 

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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which  
version of Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a  
bug like that a while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the  
latest Pd patch too:


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

.hc

On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which  
deals with the first two switches seperately.

I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.

And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?

It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.

Ingo


Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
An: Ingo Scherzinger
Cc: Ingo Scherzinger
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Can we fix that??

Pierre

2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de
I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others  
within a
8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the  
on
message and send the first off. So you have to press the button  
twice.
Once pressed it works until you press another button within that  
block and

return to the first one.

Ingo


Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
An: Ingo Scherzinger
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for  
starting a

new thread.
I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
second digital input socket).

Pierre
2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
This is the same problem I had described several times before. There  
is an
error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It  
can be
traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it  
up

tomorrow.

Ingo




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Auftrag von

Pierre Massat
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
An: pd-list
Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Hi All,

I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it  
is.


I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a  
peculiar
problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first  
socket of the
board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket,  
inputs 9 and
10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any  
of the
last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they  
start
working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back  
to the
first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring  
for all 8

inputs.

So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or  
pduino
(no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to  
write a
simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial  
monitor

the values of my digital inputs.

Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad?  
Or was it
just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very  
slow at
start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it  
randomly
decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or  
warns me
that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found.  
The fact
that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or  
restart the

software doesn't seem to make any difference.

This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science  
to me.


Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.

Thank you.

Pierre



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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Pierre Massat
Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs work
flawlessly.
(The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).

So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.

I will try with the latest pduino...

Thanks for your help!

Pierre

2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which version of
 Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like that a
 while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch too:

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

 I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
 with the first two switches seperately.
 I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.
 ** **
 And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?
 ** **
 It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.
 ** **
 Ingo
 ** **
 ** **
 --
 *Von:* Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com pimas...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
 *An:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Cc:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Betreff:* Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 ** **

 Can we fix that??

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de
 I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others within a
 8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the on
 message and send the first off. So you have to press the button twice.
 Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block and
 return to the first one.

 Ingo

 
 Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
 An: Ingo Scherzinger
 Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad


 Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for starting a
 new thread.
 I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
 second digital input socket).

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
 This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is an
 error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can be
 traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
 tomorrow.

 Ingo



 
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
 Pierre Massat
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
 An: pd-list
 Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

 Hi All,

 I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

 I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a peculiar
 problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of
 the
 board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9 and
 10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of the
 last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they start
 working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to the
 first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for all 8
 inputs.

 So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or pduino
 (no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write a
 simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial monitor
 the values of my digital inputs.

 Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or was
 it
 just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow at
 start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it randomly
 decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or warns me
 that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The fact
 that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart the
 software doesn't seem to make any difference.

 This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science to me.

 Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.

 Thank you.

 Pierre

 
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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Pierre Massat
@ Hans :

I checked and it turns out that i use the latest version of pduino.

And i just managed to upload StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3.

Will check in a couple of seconds if that makes any difference.

Pierre


2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com

 Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs
 work flawlessly.
 (The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).

 So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.

 I will try with the latest pduino...

 Thanks for your help!

 Pierre


 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which version
 of Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like that a
 while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch too:

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

 I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
 with the first two switches seperately.
 I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.
 ** **
 And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?
 ** **
 It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.
 ** **
 Ingo
 ** **
 ** **
  --
 *Von:* Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com pimas...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
 *An:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Cc:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Betreff:* Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 ** **

 Can we fix that??

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de
 I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others within
 a
 8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the on
 message and send the first off. So you have to press the button twice.
 Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block and
 return to the first one.

 Ingo

 
 Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
 An: Ingo Scherzinger
 Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad


 Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for starting a
 new thread.
 I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
 second digital input socket).

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
 This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is an
 error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can
 be
 traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
 tomorrow.

 Ingo



 
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag
 von
 Pierre Massat
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
 An: pd-list
 Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

 Hi All,

 I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

 I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a
 peculiar
 problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of
 the
 board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9
 and
 10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of the
 last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they start
 working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to the
 first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for all
 8
 inputs.

 So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or pduino
 (no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write a
 simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial monitor
 the values of my digital inputs.

 Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or was
 it
 just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow
 at
 start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it randomly
 decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or warns me
 that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The
 fact
 that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart the
 software doesn't seem to make any difference.

 This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science to
 me.

 Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.

 Thank you.

 Pierre

 
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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Pierre Massat
It makes no difference at all.

Here's what happens :
Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.

But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any input
of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice before i
can see something is happening.

It goes like this :
(in group 2 to 7)
First guy : Pushed button 3.
Second guy (Pd) : Ok, pushed button 3.
First guy : Pushed button 7.
Second guy : K, you pushed button 7.
First guy : Pushed button 8.
Second guy : Come again?
First guy : PUSHED BUTTON 8!
Second guy : Oh, yeah, button 8...
First guy ; Pushed button 3.
Second guy : I'm sorry, what button?
First guy : BUTTON 3!!
Second guy : Yep, button 3.

I hope it is clear now what the problem is.

Pierre

2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com

 Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs
 work flawlessly.
 (The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).

 So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.

 I will try with the latest pduino...

 Thanks for your help!

 Pierre


 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which version
 of Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like that a
 while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch too:

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

 I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
 with the first two switches seperately.
 I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.
 ** **
 And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?
 ** **
 It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.
 ** **
 Ingo
 ** **
 ** **
  --
 *Von:* Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com pimas...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
 *An:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Cc:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Betreff:* Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 ** **

 Can we fix that??

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de
 I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others within
 a
 8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the on
 message and send the first off. So you have to press the button twice.
 Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block and
 return to the first one.

 Ingo

 
 Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
 An: Ingo Scherzinger
 Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad


 Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for starting a
 new thread.
 I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
 second digital input socket).

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
 This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is an
 error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can
 be
 traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
 tomorrow.

 Ingo



 
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag
 von
 Pierre Massat
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
 An: pd-list
 Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

 Hi All,

 I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

 I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a
 peculiar
 problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of
 the
 board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9
 and
 10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of the
 last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they start
 working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to the
 first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for all
 8
 inputs.

 So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or pduino
 (no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write a
 simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial monitor
 the values of my digital inputs.

 Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or was
 it
 just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow
 at
 start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it randomly
 decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or warns me
 that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The
 fact
 that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart the
 software doesn't seem to make any difference.

 This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science to
 me.

 Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.

 Thank you.

 Pierre

 
 ** **
 

Re: [PD] watching PD tutorial video using vlc and running PD at same time sound issues

2011-07-05 Thread OIivier Heinry
Le 05/07/2011 20:33, Rick T a écrit :
 Greetings All
 
 I'm using PD extended 0.42.5 and vlc 1.1.10 on Ubuntu 64 bit.
  I'm trying to play the tutorial videos in vlc while pd is running but
 the two seem to fight over the sound card and PD seems to win so I can't
 hear the PD tutorial audio.  Is there a way that I can watch the pd
 video tutorials in vlc  and use the PD program at the same time so sound
 comes out of both?

Set them up to both use the Jack API and patch using qjackctl or patchage.
++

 
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Re: [PD] Ubuntu Studio - which kernel? generic - generic-pae - rt ?

2011-07-05 Thread András Murányi
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 20:17, Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com wrote:

 Hi,

 does anybody know which would be the most efficient kernel for low latency
 with Ubuntu Studio on Lucid?

 - generic
 - generic-pae
 - realime

 (BTW I am using Pd-extended 0.42.5 on an Athlon II X2 dual core with one
 audio patch and one separate Gem patch connected with netsend / netreceive)

 I am not sure if the realtime kernel is any more optimized than the regular
 Ubuntu Studio generic kernel since it hasn't been updated in a while.
 Can the generic-pae kernel actually slow down Pd or is this more of a
 theoretical additional delay in addressing the extended memory?
 I am using 4GB of ram but could live with 3.2GB if the non pae kernel is
 faster.

 I have made the experience that I need the proprietary ATI graphic drivers
 for smooth audio playback. I'm not sure if these drivers can interfere with
 the realtime kernel and make it even less efficient than the generic
 kernel.

 It takes a lot of time to actually try out all of these options. So, any
 experience would be greatly appreciated!

 Ingo


Just my 2 cents - I use plain Ubuntu 64 (on an Opteron single core) and the
realtime kernel seems to be faster even though it has not been updated for
some time. I guess most of the kernel updates are driver related, and
optimisation related updates are rare, but I may be completely wrong. For
driver related updates - if your hardware works alrite, you may not need
them at all. They are mostly adding support for new hardware.
Anyway why not install all the kernels you are interested in, and benchmark
them? Linux is so cool to allow this... in the worst case you have to
reinstall your propritery video driver (if any) when you switch kernels, but
those 2 minutes must be justified by benchmarking. (I have Nvidia and the
proprietary driver needs some tweaking before it can be installed on the
realtime kernel, but it still takes less than 2 minutes...)

Andras
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Re: [PD] watching PD tutorial video using vlc and running PD at same time sound issues

2011-07-05 Thread Pedro Lopes
It should not be much different from a tutorial I wrote some time ago (to
get audio from the browser working at the same time of PD, using jack and
pulseaudio-module-jack):

http://puredata.info/docs/JackRoutingMultichannelAndBrowserAudio/?searchterm=jack

Vlc also works with jack. See here
http://www.goplexian.com/2010/02/setting-up-jack-audio-for-gstreamer.html (on
the final part)

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:21 PM, OIivier Heinry oliv...@heinry.fr wrote:

 Le 05/07/2011 20:33, Rick T a écrit :
  Greetings All
 
  I'm using PD extended 0.42.5 and vlc 1.1.10 on Ubuntu 64 bit.
   I'm trying to play the tutorial videos in vlc while pd is running but
  the two seem to fight over the sound card and PD seems to win so I can't
  hear the PD tutorial audio.  Is there a way that I can watch the pd
  video tutorials in vlc  and use the PD program at the same time so sound
  comes out of both?

 Set them up to both use the Jack API and patch using qjackctl or patchage.
 ++

 
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[PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

I recently did a push to fix key bugs to get the Pd-extended 0.43  
nightly builds in a useable state.  Also, there is a new .zip download  
for Windows, so it should be really easy to try nightly builds on  
Windows.  Just download the .zip, unzip, and double-click pd.exe in  
the bin folder.


new features:

- enable/disable Autopatch mode from Edit menu or Ctrl/Cmd-Alt-A

- fixed perf mode to not crash

- enable/disable Perf Mode from Edit menu or Ctrl/Cmd-Alt-P
  (perf = performance, it basically makes it harder to mistakenly
  close windows, like during a performance)

- inlet/outlet highlighting

- Magic Glass cord inspector

- 5 log levels that applies to the complete log history (try changing
  the log level, you'll see that it shows/hides content dynamically,
  without forgetting old log messages)

- Ctrl/Cmd click on log lines in the Pd window to see which object
  printed that line (or select line and hit Enter/Return)

- 'log' library for different levels of logging

- backgrounded, high speed logging in the Pd window (you can have
  thousands of messages a second going to the Pd window, and still
  work on your patch).

- updated French translation from Alexandre Castonguay

- Alt menu shortcuts, i.e. Alt-F for File menu

- basic config works on all platforms (i.e. no custom setup needed,
  libdir, vanilla/list, vanilla, etc. are loaded automatically)

Don't forgot to try some of the awesome GUI plugins:
http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/by-category/guiplugin
https://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins

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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was  
a while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3  
firmware, so I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these  
problems on boards older than an Uno?


.hc

On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:


It makes no difference at all.

Here's what happens :
Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.

But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use  
any input of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later  
twice before i can see something is happening.


It goes like this :
(in group 2 to 7)
First guy : Pushed button 3.
Second guy (Pd) : Ok, pushed button 3.
First guy : Pushed button 7.
Second guy : K, you pushed button 7.
First guy : Pushed button 8.
Second guy : Come again?
First guy : PUSHED BUTTON 8!
Second guy : Oh, yeah, button 8...
First guy ; Pushed button 3.
Second guy : I'm sorry, what button?
First guy : BUTTON 3!!
Second guy : Yep, button 3.

I hope it is clear now what the problem is.

Pierre

2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my  
inputs work flawlessly.

(The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).

So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.

I will try with the latest pduino...

Thanks for your help!

Pierre


2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which  
version of Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a  
bug like that a while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the  
latest Pd patch too:


http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

.hc

On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which  
deals with the first two switches seperately.

I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.

And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?

It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.

Ingo


Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
An: Ingo Scherzinger
Cc: Ingo Scherzinger
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Can we fix that??

Pierre

2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de
I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others  
within a
8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore  
the on
message and send the first off. So you have to press the button  
twice.
Once pressed it works until you press another button within that  
block and

return to the first one.

Ingo


Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
An: Ingo Scherzinger
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for  
starting a

new thread.
I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on  
the

second digital input socket).

Pierre
2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
This is the same problem I had described several times before.  
There is an
error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in.  
It can be
traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look  
it up

tomorrow.

Ingo




Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im  
Auftrag von

Pierre Massat
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
An: pd-list
Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Hi All,

I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it  
is.


I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a  
peculiar
problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first  
socket of the
board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket,  
inputs 9 and
10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any  
of the
last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before  
they start
working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back  
to the
first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring  
for all 8

inputs.

So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or  
pduino
(no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to  
write a
simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial  
monitor

the values of my digital inputs.

Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad?  
Or was it
just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very  
slow at
start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it  
randomly
decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or  
warns me
that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found.  
The fact
that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or  
restart the

software doesn't seem to make any difference.

This is 

Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Pierre Massat
Should I try to upload a older firmata?

:Pierre

2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was a
 while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3 firmware, so
 I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these problems on boards
 older than an Uno?

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:

 It makes no difference at all.

 Here's what happens :
 Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
 Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.

 But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any input
 of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice before i
 can see something is happening.

 It goes like this :
 (in group 2 to 7)
 First guy : Pushed button 3.
 Second guy (Pd) : Ok, pushed button 3.
 First guy : Pushed button 7.
 Second guy : K, you pushed button 7.
 First guy : Pushed button 8.
 Second guy : Come again?
 First guy : PUSHED BUTTON 8!
 Second guy : Oh, yeah, button 8...
 First guy ; Pushed button 3.
 Second guy : I'm sorry, what button?
 First guy : BUTTON 3!!
 Second guy : Yep, button 3.

 I hope it is clear now what the problem is.

 Pierre

 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com

 Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs
 work flawlessly.
 (The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).

 So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.

 I will try with the latest pduino...

 Thanks for your help!

 Pierre


 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which version
 of Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like that a
 while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch too:

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

 I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
 with the first two switches seperately.
 I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.
 ** **
 And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?
 ** **
 It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.
 ** **
 Ingo
 ** **
 ** **
  --
 *Von:* Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com pimas...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
 *An:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Cc:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Betreff:* Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 ** **

 Can we fix that??

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de
 I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others within
 a
 8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the on
 message and send the first off. So you have to press the button twice.
 Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block
 and
 return to the first one.

 Ingo

 
 Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
 An: Ingo Scherzinger
 Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad


 Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for starting a
 new thread.
 I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
 second digital input socket).

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
 This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is
 an
 error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can
 be
 traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
 tomorrow.

 Ingo



 
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag
 von
 Pierre Massat
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
 An: pd-list
 Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

 Hi All,

 I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

 I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a
 peculiar
 problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of
 the
 board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9
 and
 10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of the
 last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they
 start
 working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to
 the
 first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for all
 8
 inputs.

 So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or pduino
 (no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write a
 simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial
 monitor
 the values of my digital inputs.

 Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or was
 it
 just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow
 at
 start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it randomly
 decides to prevent me 

Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Pierre Massat
You tried with your StandardFirmata, to no avail.

Please tell me that all hope is not lost, doc...

:Pierre

2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com

 Should I try to upload a older firmata?

 :Pierre


 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was a
 while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3 firmware, so
 I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these problems on boards
 older than an Uno?

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:

 It makes no difference at all.

 Here's what happens :
 Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
 Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.

 But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any
 input of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice
 before i can see something is happening.

 It goes like this :
 (in group 2 to 7)
 First guy : Pushed button 3.
 Second guy (Pd) : Ok, pushed button 3.
 First guy : Pushed button 7.
 Second guy : K, you pushed button 7.
 First guy : Pushed button 8.
 Second guy : Come again?
 First guy : PUSHED BUTTON 8!
 Second guy : Oh, yeah, button 8...
 First guy ; Pushed button 3.
 Second guy : I'm sorry, what button?
 First guy : BUTTON 3!!
 Second guy : Yep, button 3.

 I hope it is clear now what the problem is.

 Pierre

 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com

 Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs
 work flawlessly.
 (The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).

 So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.

 I will try with the latest pduino...

 Thanks for your help!

 Pierre


 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which version
 of Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like that 
 a
 while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch too:

 http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

 .hc

 On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

 I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
 with the first two switches seperately.
 I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.
 ** **
 And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?
 ** **
 It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.
 ** **
 Ingo
 ** **
 ** **
  --
 *Von:* Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com pimas...@gmail.com]
 *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
 *An:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Cc:* Ingo Scherzinger
 *Betreff:* Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 ** **

 Can we fix that??

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@fixitinthemix.de
 I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others
 within a
 8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the
 on
 message and send the first off. So you have to press the button twice.
 Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block
 and
 return to the first one.

 Ingo

 
 Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
 An: Ingo Scherzinger
 Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad


 Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for starting
 a
 new thread.
 I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
 second digital input socket).

 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com
 This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is
 an
 error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can
 be
 traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
 tomorrow.

 Ingo



 
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag
 von
 Pierre Massat
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
 An: pd-list
 Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

 Hi All,

 I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.

 I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a
 peculiar
 problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of
 the
 board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9
 and
 10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of
 the
 last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they
 start
 working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to
 the
 first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for
 all 8
 inputs.

 So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or
 pduino
 (no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write
 a
 simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial
 monitor
 the values of my digital inputs.

 Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or
 was it
 just not 

[PD] exporting as stl ?

2011-07-05 Thread ronni montoya
Hi, Is it possible to export a 3d structure generated in Gem as a .stl
?  I would like to export a 3d structure created with pd/gem and  then
open it in 3d software as blender or rhyno.

any idea of how can i achieve this?


thanks


R.

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-05 Thread ico
Nice to hear about some progress in these important areas. BTW, did  
you merge vanilla MagicGlass and nlet highlighting or the one from the  
pd-l2ork? I ask this because vanilla implementations of both of those  
have a number of issues, including unnecessary cpu overhead and  
potential instabilities.


Best wishes,

Ico

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Yes, magic glass and nlet highlighting came from l2ork, plus a 64-bit  
patch from Albert Gräf:


https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478072aid=3312794group_id=55736

.hc

On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:26 PM, i...@vt.edu wrote:

Nice to hear about some progress in these important areas. BTW, did  
you merge vanilla MagicGlass and nlet highlighting or the one from  
the pd-l2ork? I ask this because vanilla implementations of both of  
those have a number of issues, including unnecessary cpu overhead  
and potential instabilities.


Best wishes,

Ico






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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-05 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic


Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:


Yes, magic glass and nlet highlighting came from l2ork, plus a 64-bit  
patch from Albert Gräf:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478072aid=3312794group_id=55736

.hc

Cool! You may want to check out the test of the l2ork c code as it has quite a 
number of other stability fixes and improvements including a definitive 
double-entry bug fix, better object resizing to accommodate nlets, proper 
reordering of nlets when moving nlet objects inside patches, a definitive fix 
for all known gop bugs, just to name a few.

Cheers!


On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:26 PM, i...@vt.edu wrote:

 Nice to hear about some progress in these important areas. BTW, did  
 you merge vanilla MagicGlass and nlet highlighting or the one from  
 the pd-l2ork? I ask this because vanilla implementations of both of  
 those have a number of issues, including unnecessary cpu overhead  
 and potential instabilities.

 Best wishes,

 Ico





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publicity.  - Bill Moyers


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Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound  Intermedia Studio
Director, L2Ork LinuxLaptop Orchestra
Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD
CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy)
Virginia Tech
Department of Music
Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
disis.music.vt.edu
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-05 Thread Ignacio Aguirre
  Today I downloaded the version
Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg and installed it on OSX 10.6.8

  I got a couple of errors, i write to the list to see if is mine or
software problems ...

  - At pd opening, the pd main window doesnt appears, I have to make
cmd + r to view it.

  - gem is not loading (I have not pix_video, pix_texture, gemhead,
etc etc etc objects)
 the main window prints at startup:

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110705.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
dlopen (/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110705.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,
10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
   Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110705.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
   Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can not load library


  hope this can be helpful

  regards

p.s. I take this opportunity to invite you to try SKT, we developed a
software to create easily and intuitive multitouch surfaces using the
Kinect camera. The data is sent via TUIO to play with the program you
want. Download the source code at:
http://code.google.com/p/simple-kinect-touch/

--
Ignacio Aguirre L.
ludique.cl

2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

 I recently did a push to fix key bugs to get the Pd-extended 0.43 nightly 
 builds in a useable state.  Also, there is a new .zip download for Windows, 
 so it should be really easy to try nightly builds on Windows.  Just download 
 the .zip, unzip, and double-click pd.exe in the bin folder.

 new features:

 - enable/disable Autopatch mode from Edit menu or Ctrl/Cmd-Alt-A

 - fixed perf mode to not crash

 - enable/disable Perf Mode from Edit menu or Ctrl/Cmd-Alt-P
  (perf = performance, it basically makes it harder to mistakenly
  close windows, like during a performance)

 - inlet/outlet highlighting

 - Magic Glass cord inspector

 - 5 log levels that applies to the complete log history (try changing
  the log level, you'll see that it shows/hides content dynamically,
  without forgetting old log messages)

 - Ctrl/Cmd click on log lines in the Pd window to see which object
  printed that line (or select line and hit Enter/Return)

 - 'log' library for different levels of logging

 - backgrounded, high speed logging in the Pd window (you can have
  thousands of messages a second going to the Pd window, and still
  work on your patch).

 - updated French translation from Alexandre Castonguay

 - Alt menu shortcuts, i.e. Alt-F for File menu

 - basic config works on all platforms (i.e. no custom setup needed,
  libdir, vanilla/list, vanilla, etc. are loaded automatically)

 Don't forgot to try some of the awesome GUI plugins:
 http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/by-category/guiplugin
 https://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins

 .hc

 

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:




Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:



Yes, magic glass and nlet highlighting came from l2ork, plus a 64-bit
patch from Albert Gräf:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478072aid=3312794group_id=55736

.hc


Cool! You may want to check out the test of the l2ork c code as it  
has quite a number of other stability fixes and improvements  
including a definitive double-entry bug fix, better object resizing  
to accommodate nlets, proper reordering of nlets when moving nlet  
objects inside patches, a definitive fix for all known gop bugs,  
just to name a few.


I ended up refactoring the magic glass and highlighting code quite a  
bit, I think there might be something worth checking out.  As for  
other bug fixes, it would be great to have them in the patch tracker  
so we can sort them out.  It would take me a massive amount of time to  
figure out what code changes are for what in pdl2ork since there isn't  
any version control (that I could find at least) and it seems to be a  
mix of 0.42 and 0.43 versions.


.hc



Cheers!



On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:26 PM, i...@vt.edu wrote:


Nice to hear about some progress in these important areas. BTW, did
you merge vanilla MagicGlass and nlet highlighting or the one from
the pd-l2ork? I ask this because vanilla implementations of both of
those have a number of issues, including unnecessary cpu overhead
and potential instabilities.

Best wishes,

Ico






News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is
publicity.  - Bill Moyers



Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound  Intermedia Studio
Director, L2Ork LinuxLaptop Orchestra
Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD
CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy)
Virginia Tech
Department of Music
Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
disis.music.vt.edu
l2ork.music.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net








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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Ignacio Aguirre wrote:


  Today I downloaded the version
Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg and installed it on OSX 10.6.8

  I got a couple of errors, i write to the list to see if is mine or
software problems ...

  - At pd opening, the pd main window doesnt appears, I have to make
cmd + r to view it.


That's an odd one, could you send the contents of the debug log?  In  
the Pd window, change the log level to 'debug', and copy and paste the  
contents.



  - gem is not loading (I have not pix_video, pix_texture, gemhead,
etc etc etc objects)
 the main window prints at startup:

/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110705.app/Contents/Resources/ 
Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin:
dlopen (/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110705.app/Contents/ 
Resources/Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin,

10): Symbol not found: __Z10initGemWinv
   Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20110705.app/Contents/Resources/ 
Scripts/../extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin

   Expected in: dynamic lookup

Gem: can not load library


no 64-bit builds of Gem on Mac OS X yet, but it should be possible to  
get a gstreamer/gmerlin based 64-bit Gem Mac OS X build out without  
too much work, with IOhannes' new plugin backend.  Or even better,  
someone could write Gem plugins for the Quicktime APIs that Apple did  
not port to 64-bit.


.hc





  hope this can be helpful

  regards

p.s. I take this opportunity to invite you to try SKT, we developed a
software to create easily and intuitive multitouch surfaces using the
Kinect camera. The data is sent via TUIO to play with the program you
want. Download the source code at:
http://code.google.com/p/simple-kinect-touch/

--
Ignacio Aguirre L.
ludique.cl

2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/

I recently did a push to fix key bugs to get the Pd-extended 0.43  
nightly builds in a useable state.  Also, there is a new .zip  
download for Windows, so it should be really easy to try nightly  
builds on Windows.  Just download the .zip, unzip, and double-click  
pd.exe in the bin folder.


new features:

- enable/disable Autopatch mode from Edit menu or Ctrl/Cmd-Alt-A

- fixed perf mode to not crash

- enable/disable Perf Mode from Edit menu or Ctrl/Cmd-Alt-P
 (perf = performance, it basically makes it harder to mistakenly
 close windows, like during a performance)

- inlet/outlet highlighting

- Magic Glass cord inspector

- 5 log levels that applies to the complete log history (try changing
 the log level, you'll see that it shows/hides content dynamically,
 without forgetting old log messages)

- Ctrl/Cmd click on log lines in the Pd window to see which object
 printed that line (or select line and hit Enter/Return)

- 'log' library for different levels of logging

- backgrounded, high speed logging in the Pd window (you can have
 thousands of messages a second going to the Pd window, and still
 work on your patch).

- updated French translation from Alexandre Castonguay

- Alt menu shortcuts, i.e. Alt-F for File menu

- basic config works on all platforms (i.e. no custom setup needed,
 libdir, vanilla/list, vanilla, etc. are loaded automatically)

Don't forgot to try some of the awesome GUI plugins:
http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/by-category/ 
guiplugin

https://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins

.hc



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Re: [PD] Compiling...

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Gem is currently broken on GNU/Linux and IOhannes is on vacation.  To  
make a build, remove 'gem' from LIB_TARGETS in pd-extended/externals/ 
Makefile and the rest should build.


.hc

On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Mario Mey wrote:

Trying to compile PureData, SVN, on Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64, following  
the instruction from the page http://puredata.info/docs/developer, I  
did:


1.- rsync from the auto-build farm (from 
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource)
rsync -av --delete rsync://128.238.56.50/distros/pd-extended/ pd- 
extended/


2.- Preparing Ubuntu: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/UbuntuMaverick

3.- Building PD-Extended: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended

But there's no .tar.bz2 or .deb on  pure-data/packages/linux-make/ 
build... These are the last lines while compilling. What should I  
do? I don't understand...


[...]
/bin/bash ../../libtool  --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ - 
DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src  -I../../src  -DPD -I/home/mario/pd- 
extended/pd/src  -DHAVE_S_STUFF_H -O2 -freg-struct-return -O3 - 
falign-loops -falign-functions -falign-jumps -funroll-loops -ffast- 
math -mmmx -MT libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ 
libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.Tpo -c -o libGem_la- 
SynchedWorkerThread.lo `test -f 'SynchedWorkerThread.cpp' || echo  
'./'`SynchedWorkerThread.cpp
libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src -I../../src - 
DPD -I/home/mario/pd-extended/pd/src -DHAVE_S_STUFF_H -O2 -freg- 
struct-return -O3 -falign-loops -falign-functions -falign-jumps - 
funroll-loops -ffast-math -mmmx -MT libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.lo  
-MD -MP -MF .deps/libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.Tpo -c  
SynchedWorkerThread.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libGem_la- 
SynchedWorkerThread.o
libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src -I../../src - 
DPD -I/home/mario/pd-extended/pd/src -DHAVE_S_STUFF_H -O2 -freg- 
struct-return -O3 -falign-loops -falign-functions -falign-jumps - 
funroll-loops -ffast-math -mmmx -MT libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.lo  
-MD -MP -MF .deps/libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.Tpo -c  
SynchedWorkerThread.cpp -o libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.o /dev/ 
null 21
mv -f .deps/libGem_la-SynchedWorkerThread.Tpo .deps/libGem_la- 
SynchedWorkerThread.Plo
/bin/bash ../../libtool  --tag=CXX   --mode=compile g++ - 
DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src  -I../../src  -DPD -I/home/mario/pd- 
extended/pd/src  -DHAVE_S_STUFF_H -O2 -freg-struct-return -O3 - 
falign-loops -falign-functions -falign-jumps -funroll-loops -ffast- 
math -mmmx -MT libGem_la-WorkerThread.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libGem_la- 
WorkerThread.Tpo -c -o libGem_la-WorkerThread.lo `test -f  
'WorkerThread.cpp' || echo './'`WorkerThread.cpp
libtool: compile:  g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src -I../../src - 
DPD -I/home/mario/pd-extended/pd/src -DHAVE_S_STUFF_H -O2 -freg- 
struct-return -O3 -falign-loops -falign-functions -falign-jumps - 
funroll-loops -ffast-math -mmmx -MT libGem_la-WorkerThread.lo -MD - 
MP -MF .deps/libGem_la-WorkerThread.Tpo -c WorkerThread.cpp  -fPIC - 
DPIC -o .libs/libGem_la-WorkerThread.o
WorkerThread.cpp: In member function ‘bool  
gem::thread::WorkerThread::PIMPL::start()’:
WorkerThread.cpp:135:22: error: aggregate  
‘gem::thread::WorkerThread::PIMPL::start()::timeval sleep’ has  
incomplete type and cannot be defined
WorkerThread.cpp:139:28: error: ‘select’ was not declared in this  
scope

make[6]: *** [libGem_la-WorkerThread.lo] Error 1
make[6]: se sale del directorio «/home/mario/pd-extended/externals/ 
Gem/src/Gem»

make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[5]: se sale del directorio «/home/mario/pd-extended/externals/ 
Gem/src»

make[4]: *** [all] Error 2
make[4]: se sale del directorio «/home/mario/pd-extended/externals/ 
Gem/src»

make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: se sale del directorio «/home/mario/pd-extended/externals/ 
Gem»
make[2]: *** [/home/mario/pd-extended/externals/Gem/Gem.pd_linux]  
Error 2

make[2]: se sale del directorio «/home/mario/pd-extended/externals»
make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2
make[1]: se sale del directorio «/home/mario/pd-extended/packages»
make: *** [install] Error 2
ls: no se puede acceder a /home/mario/pd-extended/packages/ 
linux_make/./Pd*.deb: No existe el fichero o el directorio

upload specs linux_make . deb
Uploading
Unexpected local arg: debian
If arg is a remote file/dir, prefix it with a colon (:).
rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1236)  
[Receiver=3.0.7]

mario@Mario-PK3D:~$


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Re: [PD] GOP Rendering Issue

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Hey Christian

Thanks for the thorough bug report, the video is great.  I think  
that's a known bug, or at least it seems familiar to me.  It would be  
great to have this info in the bug tracker so we can keep track of  
it.  This bug seems similar:


https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3030159group_id=55736atid=478070

If that's not it, then feel free to create a new bug report in the  
tracker.


.hc

On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Christian Haines wrote:


Hi All

I have created an GOP abstraction which I include in a parent  
parent. The GOP interface has a button that resizes it by sending a  
'coords' message to the GOP abstraction canvas (namecanvas named).  
When it resizes larger it renders the larger interface properly over  
the patch's white background. However, when it resizes smaller it  
leaves a remnant of the larger interface visible. Sometimes to  
correctly show the smaller interface, I have to redraw / refresh the  
window by moving the window - this doesn't always work though. In  
fact it only works when the parent patch has a '#coords' line with a  
specific configuration in it - of which I'm not sure.  I'm on OSX.  
I've seen the issue documented elsewhere but never read a full  
description on how to resolve it fully.


See the issue here: http://echoblue.com.au/pd/goprenderissue.mov


At the moment I am sending a message back to the parent patch from  
the GOP abstraction to change the parent patch's 'setbounds' by 1  
pixel and then move it back - this resolves that issue but, as  
mentioned, not consistently. Regardless, it creates two more issues:  
(1) setbounds behaves oddly - doesn't resize until a close and  
reopen; and/or moves the objects in the patch window without  
resizing; (2) I can't know the patch window size dynamically (say by  
querying the canvas) hence any size change by setbounds is not  
necessarily the same as the original window size (if it was  
resizing!).


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

--
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Re: [PD] Waiting an array to be finished reading

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


You could replace values in the array as they are played, just stagger  
a tabwrite~ a sample or more behind the tabread~.  Then a tabread~  
could start reading the beginning before the end is written.  I think  
this should work.


.hc

On May 26, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:

You have to know the length of the array. If you know the length you  
know where the phasor is with respect to the end of the array.
Also, if you want to write something into the array, you should do  
it before phasor reaches the end. Otherwise you'll have to read and  
write at the same time. Generally i use a different array to write  
to, and switch to it when phasor has finished reading the first array.


Pierre

2011/5/26 Arda Eden ardae...@gmail.com
Hi all,
I'm reading a drum loop from an array. While playing when i read  
another loop in to the array it naturaly keeps playing from the  
phasor's current value. How can i wait the array to be finished  
reading before writing the new sound file into the array ? Thanks.

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Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Ingo
 Please tell me that all hope is not lost ...


I looked it up and I found my fix. The errors are getting obvious here:

Arduino / convert_to_symbolic_commands / digital messages / debyte

If you replace “debyte” with this patch “pd debyte” it should work although
I am not sure if pins higher than 9 were taken care of.
If the bytes higher than 9 are still causing problems you might have to set
the first moses to a higher number like 8 or so.
I am not sure if it can interfere with anything else and I am also not sure
if it works with boards other than Diecimila and Duemilanove.

The problem is not “debyte” – it’s the numbers coming in that just get fixed
with this workaround!

Ingo


#N canvas 11 14 450 290 10;
#N canvas 252 114 541 378 debyte 0;
#X obj 32 161  1;
#X obj 82 161  2;
#X obj 162 345 outlet;
#X obj 32 181 change;
#X obj 82 181 change;
#X obj 32 20 inlet;
#X obj 264 181 change;
#X obj 315 181 change;
#X obj 366 181 change;
#X obj 417 181 change;
#X obj 162 181 change;
#X obj 213 181 change;
#X msg 32 221 0 \$1;
#X msg 82 221 1 \$1;
#X msg 162 221 2 \$1;
#X msg 213 221 3 \$1;
#X msg 264 221 4 \$1;
#X msg 315 221 5 \$1;
#X msg 366 221 6 \$1;
#X msg 417 221 7 \$1;
#X obj 162 308 unpack;
#X obj 205 345 outlet;
#X obj 162 161  4;
#X obj 213 160  8;
#X obj 264 161  16;
#X obj 32 201 == 1;
#X obj 82 201 == 2;
#X obj 162 201 == 4;
#X obj 213 201 == 8;
#X obj 264 201 == 16;
#X obj 315 201 == 32;
#X obj 315 160  32;
#X obj 366 201 == 64;
#X obj 417 201 == 128;
#X obj 366 161  64;
#X obj 417 160  128;
#X obj 32 41 moses 4;
#X obj 162 104 trigger float float float float float float;
#X obj 71 61 moses 253;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 1 0 4 0;
#X connect 3 0 25 0;
#X connect 4 0 26 0;
#X connect 5 0 36 0;
#X connect 6 0 29 0;
#X connect 7 0 30 0;
#X connect 8 0 32 0;
#X connect 9 0 33 0;
#X connect 10 0 27 0;
#X connect 11 0 28 0;
#X connect 12 0 20 0;
#X connect 13 0 20 0;
#X connect 14 0 20 0;
#X connect 15 0 20 0;
#X connect 16 0 20 0;
#X connect 17 0 20 0;
#X connect 18 0 20 0;
#X connect 19 0 20 0;
#X connect 20 0 2 0;
#X connect 20 1 21 0;
#X connect 22 0 10 0;
#X connect 23 0 11 0;
#X connect 24 0 6 0;
#X connect 25 0 12 0;
#X connect 26 0 13 0;
#X connect 27 0 14 0;
#X connect 28 0 15 0;
#X connect 29 0 16 0;
#X connect 30 0 17 0;
#X connect 31 0 7 0;
#X connect 32 0 18 0;
#X connect 33 0 19 0;
#X connect 34 0 8 0;
#X connect 35 0 9 0;
#X connect 36 0 0 0;
#X connect 36 0 1 0;
#X connect 36 1 38 0;
#X connect 37 0 22 0;
#X connect 37 1 23 0;
#X connect 37 2 24 0;
#X connect 37 3 31 0;
#X connect 37 4 34 0;
#X connect 37 5 35 0;
#X connect 38 0 37 0;
#X connect 38 1 0 0;
#X connect 38 1 1 0;
#X restore 168 99 pd debyte;




Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 22:23
An: Hans-Christoph Steiner
Cc: Ingo; pd-list@iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

You tried with your StandardFirmata, to no avail. 

Please tell me that all hope is not lost, doc...

:Pierre
2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
Should I try to upload a older firmata? 

:Pierre

2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was a
while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3 firmware, so
I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these problems on boards
older than an Uno?

.hc

On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:


It makes no difference at all. 

Here's what happens :
Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
Inputs 8 and 9 work fine. 

But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any input
of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice before i
can see something is happening.

It goes like this :
(in group 2 to 7)
First guy : Pushed button 3.
Second guy (Pd) : Ok, pushed button 3.
First guy : Pushed button 7.
Second guy : K, you pushed button 7.
First guy : Pushed button 8.
Second guy : Come again?
First guy : PUSHED BUTTON 8!
Second guy : Oh, yeah, button 8...
First guy ; Pushed button 3.
Second guy : I'm sorry, what button?
First guy : BUTTON 3!!
Second guy : Yep, button 3. 

I hope it is clear now what the problem is. 

Pierre
2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs work
flawlessly. 
(The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw). 

So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.

I will try with the latest pduino...

Thanks for your help!

Pierre

2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which version of
Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like that a
while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch too:

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino

.hc

On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:

I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
with the first 

Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Ingo
It looks like I changed pin 8 and 9 to be output as pin 0 and 1 for some
reason. You should change the two message boxes at the left from

[0 $1(  [1 $1(  to

[8 $1(  [9 $1(  

to get the correct pin numbering.

Ingo


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Ingo [mailto:i...@miamiwave.com]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 05:46
 An: 'Pierre Massat'; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner'
 Cc: 'Ingo'; pd-list@iem.at
 Betreff: AW: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 
  Please tell me that all hope is not lost ...
 
 
 I looked it up and I found my fix. The errors are getting obvious here:
 
 Arduino / convert_to_symbolic_commands / digital messages / debyte
 
 If you replace “debyte” with this patch “pd debyte” it should work
 although
 I am not sure if pins higher than 9 were taken care of.
 If the bytes higher than 9 are still causing problems you might have to
 set
 the first moses to a higher number like 8 or so.
 I am not sure if it can interfere with anything else and I am also not
 sure
 if it works with boards other than Diecimila and Duemilanove.
 
 The problem is not “debyte” – it’s the numbers coming in that just get
 fixed
 with this workaround!
 
 Ingo
 
 
 #N canvas 11 14 450 290 10;
 #N canvas 252 114 541 378 debyte 0;
 #X obj 32 161  1;
 #X obj 82 161  2;
 #X obj 162 345 outlet;
 #X obj 32 181 change;
 #X obj 82 181 change;
 #X obj 32 20 inlet;
 #X obj 264 181 change;
 #X obj 315 181 change;
 #X obj 366 181 change;
 #X obj 417 181 change;
 #X obj 162 181 change;
 #X obj 213 181 change;
 #X msg 32 221 0 \$1;
 #X msg 82 221 1 \$1;
 #X msg 162 221 2 \$1;
 #X msg 213 221 3 \$1;
 #X msg 264 221 4 \$1;
 #X msg 315 221 5 \$1;
 #X msg 366 221 6 \$1;
 #X msg 417 221 7 \$1;
 #X obj 162 308 unpack;
 #X obj 205 345 outlet;
 #X obj 162 161  4;
 #X obj 213 160  8;
 #X obj 264 161  16;
 #X obj 32 201 == 1;
 #X obj 82 201 == 2;
 #X obj 162 201 == 4;
 #X obj 213 201 == 8;
 #X obj 264 201 == 16;
 #X obj 315 201 == 32;
 #X obj 315 160  32;
 #X obj 366 201 == 64;
 #X obj 417 201 == 128;
 #X obj 366 161  64;
 #X obj 417 160  128;
 #X obj 32 41 moses 4;
 #X obj 162 104 trigger float float float float float float;
 #X obj 71 61 moses 253;
 #X connect 0 0 3 0;
 #X connect 1 0 4 0;
 #X connect 3 0 25 0;
 #X connect 4 0 26 0;
 #X connect 5 0 36 0;
 #X connect 6 0 29 0;
 #X connect 7 0 30 0;
 #X connect 8 0 32 0;
 #X connect 9 0 33 0;
 #X connect 10 0 27 0;
 #X connect 11 0 28 0;
 #X connect 12 0 20 0;
 #X connect 13 0 20 0;
 #X connect 14 0 20 0;
 #X connect 15 0 20 0;
 #X connect 16 0 20 0;
 #X connect 17 0 20 0;
 #X connect 18 0 20 0;
 #X connect 19 0 20 0;
 #X connect 20 0 2 0;
 #X connect 20 1 21 0;
 #X connect 22 0 10 0;
 #X connect 23 0 11 0;
 #X connect 24 0 6 0;
 #X connect 25 0 12 0;
 #X connect 26 0 13 0;
 #X connect 27 0 14 0;
 #X connect 28 0 15 0;
 #X connect 29 0 16 0;
 #X connect 30 0 17 0;
 #X connect 31 0 7 0;
 #X connect 32 0 18 0;
 #X connect 33 0 19 0;
 #X connect 34 0 8 0;
 #X connect 35 0 9 0;
 #X connect 36 0 0 0;
 #X connect 36 0 1 0;
 #X connect 36 1 38 0;
 #X connect 37 0 22 0;
 #X connect 37 1 23 0;
 #X connect 37 2 24 0;
 #X connect 37 3 31 0;
 #X connect 37 4 34 0;
 #X connect 37 5 35 0;
 #X connect 38 0 37 0;
 #X connect 38 1 0 0;
 #X connect 38 1 1 0;
 #X restore 168 99 pd debyte;
 
 
 
 
 Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 22:23
 An: Hans-Christoph Steiner
 Cc: Ingo; pd-list@iem.at
 Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 
 You tried with your StandardFirmata, to no avail.
 
 Please tell me that all hope is not lost, doc...
 
 :Pierre
 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
 Should I try to upload a older firmata?
 
 :Pierre
 
 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 
 The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was a
 while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3 firmware,
 so
 I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these problems on
 boards
 older than an Uno?
 
 .hc
 
 On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
 
 
 It makes no difference at all.
 
 Here's what happens :
 Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
 Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.
 
 But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any
 input
 of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice before i
 can see something is happening.
 
 It goes like this :
 (in group 2 to 7)
 First guy : Pushed button 3.
 Second guy (Pd) : Ok, pushed button 3.
 First guy : Pushed button 7.
 Second guy : K, you pushed button 7.
 First guy : Pushed button 8.
 Second guy : Come again?
 First guy : PUSHED BUTTON 8!
 Second guy : Oh, yeah, button 8...
 First guy ; Pushed button 3.
 Second guy : I'm sorry, what button?
 First guy : BUTTON 3!!
 Second guy : Yep, button 3.
 
 I hope it is clear now what the problem is.
 
 Pierre
 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
 Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs
 work
 flawlessly.
 (The IDE seem to work 

Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

2011-07-05 Thread Ingo
I assume that the error might be somehow caused by the fact that the digital
pins are not offset by two as it should be the case since pin 0  1 ought to
be handled separately from the rest of the digital ins.

BTW the debyte patch should replace [mapping/debytemask] plus the following
message boxes and the [unpack float float] object.

Ingo


 It looks like I changed pin 8 and 9 to be output as pin 0 and 1 for some
 reason. You should change the two message boxes at the left from
 
 [0 $1(  [1 $1(  to
 
 [8 $1(  [9 $1(
 
 to get the correct pin numbering.
 
 Ingo
 
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Ingo [mailto:i...@miamiwave.com]
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 05:46
  An: 'Pierre Massat'; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner'
  Cc: 'Ingo'; pd-list@iem.at
  Betreff: AW: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 
   Please tell me that all hope is not lost ...
 
 
  I looked it up and I found my fix. The errors are getting obvious here:
 
  Arduino / convert_to_symbolic_commands / digital messages / debyte
 
  If you replace “debyte” with this patch “pd debyte” it should work
  although
  I am not sure if pins higher than 9 were taken care of.
  If the bytes higher than 9 are still causing problems you might have to
  set
  the first moses to a higher number like 8 or so.
  I am not sure if it can interfere with anything else and I am also not
  sure
  if it works with boards other than Diecimila and Duemilanove.
 
  The problem is not “debyte” – it’s the numbers coming in that just get
  fixed
  with this workaround!
 
  Ingo
 
 
  #N canvas 11 14 450 290 10;
  #N canvas 252 114 541 378 debyte 0;
  #X obj 32 161  1;
  #X obj 82 161  2;
  #X obj 162 345 outlet;
  #X obj 32 181 change;
  #X obj 82 181 change;
  #X obj 32 20 inlet;
  #X obj 264 181 change;
  #X obj 315 181 change;
  #X obj 366 181 change;
  #X obj 417 181 change;
  #X obj 162 181 change;
  #X obj 213 181 change;
  #X msg 32 221 0 \$1;
  #X msg 82 221 1 \$1;
  #X msg 162 221 2 \$1;
  #X msg 213 221 3 \$1;
  #X msg 264 221 4 \$1;
  #X msg 315 221 5 \$1;
  #X msg 366 221 6 \$1;
  #X msg 417 221 7 \$1;
  #X obj 162 308 unpack;
  #X obj 205 345 outlet;
  #X obj 162 161  4;
  #X obj 213 160  8;
  #X obj 264 161  16;
  #X obj 32 201 == 1;
  #X obj 82 201 == 2;
  #X obj 162 201 == 4;
  #X obj 213 201 == 8;
  #X obj 264 201 == 16;
  #X obj 315 201 == 32;
  #X obj 315 160  32;
  #X obj 366 201 == 64;
  #X obj 417 201 == 128;
  #X obj 366 161  64;
  #X obj 417 160  128;
  #X obj 32 41 moses 4;
  #X obj 162 104 trigger float float float float float float;
  #X obj 71 61 moses 253;
  #X connect 0 0 3 0;
  #X connect 1 0 4 0;
  #X connect 3 0 25 0;
  #X connect 4 0 26 0;
  #X connect 5 0 36 0;
  #X connect 6 0 29 0;
  #X connect 7 0 30 0;
  #X connect 8 0 32 0;
  #X connect 9 0 33 0;
  #X connect 10 0 27 0;
  #X connect 11 0 28 0;
  #X connect 12 0 20 0;
  #X connect 13 0 20 0;
  #X connect 14 0 20 0;
  #X connect 15 0 20 0;
  #X connect 16 0 20 0;
  #X connect 17 0 20 0;
  #X connect 18 0 20 0;
  #X connect 19 0 20 0;
  #X connect 20 0 2 0;
  #X connect 20 1 21 0;
  #X connect 22 0 10 0;
  #X connect 23 0 11 0;
  #X connect 24 0 6 0;
  #X connect 25 0 12 0;
  #X connect 26 0 13 0;
  #X connect 27 0 14 0;
  #X connect 28 0 15 0;
  #X connect 29 0 16 0;
  #X connect 30 0 17 0;
  #X connect 31 0 7 0;
  #X connect 32 0 18 0;
  #X connect 33 0 19 0;
  #X connect 34 0 8 0;
  #X connect 35 0 9 0;
  #X connect 36 0 0 0;
  #X connect 36 0 1 0;
  #X connect 36 1 38 0;
  #X connect 37 0 22 0;
  #X connect 37 1 23 0;
  #X connect 37 2 24 0;
  #X connect 37 3 31 0;
  #X connect 37 4 34 0;
  #X connect 37 5 35 0;
  #X connect 38 0 37 0;
  #X connect 38 1 0 0;
  #X connect 38 1 1 0;
  #X restore 168 99 pd debyte;
 
 
 
  
  Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimas...@gmail.com]
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 22:23
  An: Hans-Christoph Steiner
  Cc: Ingo; pd-list@iem.at
  Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
 
  You tried with your StandardFirmata, to no avail.
 
  Please tell me that all hope is not lost, doc...
 
  :Pierre
  2011/7/5 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
  Should I try to upload a older firmata?
 
  :Pierre
 
  2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 
  The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was a
  while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3 firmware,
  so
  I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these problems on
  boards
  older than an Uno?
 
  .hc
 
  On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
 
 
  It makes no difference at all.
 
  Here's what happens :
  Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
  Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.
 
  But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any
  input
  of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice before
 i
  can see something is happening.
 
  It goes like this :
  (in group 2 to 7)
  First guy : Pushed button 3.
  Second guy (Pd) : Ok, pushed button 3.
  First guy : Pushed button