[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-1 test 5 released

2011-11-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Another test version... I still am working on 2 bugs.

The biggest change is that I updated tcl/tk to version 8.5 in the 
Windows compiled package.

It's on the usual http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or:

git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data

cheers
Miller

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Re: [PD] OT: PS3 eyecam on osx lion

2011-11-06 Thread Ricardo Fabbri
You can try compiling the latest pd-extended+Gem yourself. Then file a bug
report if it still doesnt work. The developers are very active. Just follow
developer documentation from puredata.info

best,

On Sunday, November 6, 2011, Jean-Marie Adrien 
wrote:
> wait for GEM 93 on os X  :) ?
>
>
> Le 6 nov. 11 à 13:49, Budi Prakosa a écrit :
>
>> hi list, does anyone know how to make ps3 eyecam work on osx lion?
>> macam doesnt work
>>
>> thanks!
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[PD] path dialog plus sign prefix

2011-11-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi,
 If I go to Media->Preferences->Path and open the dialog, then just click 
Ok, Pd re-registers the search paths with a plus sign prefixed to them-- thus 
something like /home/foolib becomes +/home/foolib.

Is this a feature or a bug?

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Re: [PD] which is the more reliable object to load a gif?

2011-11-06 Thread Marco Donnarumma
I see, just yesterday I tried on a Mac OSX 10.7 with the moonlib/image.

The gif to be loaded were in user/Applications/MySoftware/images/.
I also [declare -path images] in my patch.

[image] couldn't open them.
I opened them again, but only one gif was loaded correctly.
No error messages.

The same patch located in the same folder on a Mac OSX 10.6 loaded images
correctly.

I can't understand this behaviour, hints?

M


On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> I recently did some work on the moonlib/image object.  It works well for
> me on Mac OS X and Ubuntu, but I haven't tested it a lot.  Its included in
> Pd-extended 0.43.  I don't know about 0.42.
>
> .hc
>
> On Nov 6, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> it drives me nuts and it's not even an interesting issue.
>
> I'm using the [image] obj from moonlib.
> Works good on Linux, but I'm teaching workshop in which students may be
> using OSX.
>
> On some OSX machines it loads properly the images, on others it loads one
> image but not the others (they are all gif imgs in the same folder), or it
> only properly loads an image after manually send an [open something(
> message. I think it might be related to folders permission, but the issue
> is different on each single osx machine and I don't have a mac to debug.
>
> I tried also [iem_image] but I had the same kind of instability on OSX.
> I usually create the [image], open a file and save. Works on Linux.
> Adding a [loadbang] does not help.
>
> Is there some tricks or something I'm missing so to use it properly?
> or which is the most reliable and cross-compatible way to display an image
> in Pd?
>
> thx,
>
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Re: [PD] which is the more reliable object to load a gif?

2011-11-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I recently did some work on the moonlib/image object.  It works well for me on 
Mac OS X and Ubuntu, but I haven't tested it a lot.  Its included in 
Pd-extended 0.43.  I don't know about 0.42.

.hc

On Nov 6, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> it drives me nuts and it's not even an interesting issue. 
> 
> I'm using the [image] obj from moonlib. 
> Works good on Linux, but I'm teaching workshop in which students may be using 
> OSX.
> 
> On some OSX machines it loads properly the images, on others it loads one 
> image but not the others (they are all gif imgs in the same folder), or it 
> only properly loads an image after manually send an [open something( message. 
> I think it might be related to folders permission, but the issue is different 
> on each single osx machine and I don't have a mac to debug.
> 
> I tried also [iem_image] but I had the same kind of instability on OSX.
> I usually create the [image], open a file and save. Works on Linux.
> Adding a [loadbang] does not help.
> 
> Is there some tricks or something I'm missing so to use it properly?
> or which is the most reliable and cross-compatible way to display an image in 
> Pd?
> 
> thx,
> 
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> Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher
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> The University of Edinburgh, UK
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[PD] which is the more reliable object to load a gif?

2011-11-06 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi all,

it drives me nuts and it's not even an interesting issue.

I'm using the [image] obj from moonlib.
Works good on Linux, but I'm teaching workshop in which students may be
using OSX.

On some OSX machines it loads properly the images, on others it loads one
image but not the others (they are all gif imgs in the same folder), or it
only properly loads an image after manually send an [open something(
message. I think it might be related to folders permission, but the issue
is different on each single osx machine and I don't have a mac to debug.

I tried also [iem_image] but I had the same kind of instability on OSX.
I usually create the [image], open a file and save. Works on Linux.
Adding a [loadbang] does not help.

Is there some tricks or something I'm missing so to use it properly?
or which is the most reliable and cross-compatible way to display an image
in Pd?

thx,

-- 
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Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
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Re: [PD] Escape characters appear in message after rebooting patch

2011-11-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes




- Original Message -
> From: Boris 
> To: pd-list@iem.at
> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 2:54 PM
> Subject: [PD]  Escape characters appear in message after rebooting patch
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm making an abstraction to make it easier to record audio to .wav. 
> Everything is fine with that, until I copy the abstraction and use it twice 
> in 
> the same patch, because I use sends in the abstraction. This I fixed by 
> making 
> all sends like [send $0-startrecording] etc. This works fine. 
> 
> The only problem I have is with the Start/Stop button. I made a button that 
> when 
> clicked changes from Start to Stop. The color changes (from red to grey), and 
> the send-symbol also changes.

Why do you need to change the send symbol?

> I used to do this by sending a message with 
> 'send stop' to it. But since I now want to be able to use the recording 
> abstraction more than once in a patch, I had to change this to 'send 
> $0-stop'. And this doesn't work :-(
> 
> It changes the send value of my start/stop button, but it doesn't change it 
> to $0-stop. It changes it to 0-stop, without the dollar sign.

If you really need to change the send symbol on the fly, do this:

[f $0]
|
[; $1-whatever send $1-stop(

In other words, you're filling in $1 with whatever the value of $0 happens to 
be.  When you click "Properties" on that gui you'll see that your send symbol 
will be "1001-stop" or something like that.  Since you're using an abstraction 
where you won't be saving the state, it should be fine to use the explicit 
value.

> So the first thing 
> I tried was to change the message to 'send \$0-stop', but escape 
> characters aren't allowed. I tried some more stuff, and after a while I 
> tried 'send $$0-stop'. This works perfectly!
> 
> Until I reboot the patch.
> 
> The message is then surprisingly changed to 'send $\$0-stop'. I 
> thought escape characters weren't allowed!!!
> 
> Anyway, this translates to the following send-symbol in my start/stop button: 
> $#0-stop
> 
> I think this is a bug? So that's why I'm e-mailing this, maybe you can 
> do something with it.
> 
> If you open the attached test.pd, you'll see how my record abstraction 
> looks. You can then open it, and you will see a lot of 'send $0-xxx' 
> things there. If you open the 'stopknop' patch you'll see where the 
> problem is. I'm sorry the patches are in Dutch but you should be ok.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> 
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[PD] Escape characters appear in message after rebooting patch

2011-11-06 Thread Boris
Hi,

I'm making an abstraction to make it easier to record audio to .wav. Everything 
is fine with that, until I copy the abstraction and use it twice in the same 
patch, because I use sends in the abstraction. This I fixed by making all sends 
like [send $0-startrecording] etc. This works fine. 

The only problem I have is with the Start/Stop button. I made a button that 
when clicked changes from Start to Stop. The color changes (from red to grey), 
and the send-symbol also changes. I used to do this by sending a message with 
'send stop' to it. But since I now want to be able to use the recording 
abstraction more than once in a patch, I had to change this to 'send $0-stop'. 
And this doesn't work :-(

It changes the send value of my start/stop button, but it doesn't change it to 
$0-stop. It changes it to 0-stop, without the dollar sign. So the first thing I 
tried was to change the message to 'send \$0-stop', but escape characters 
aren't allowed. I tried some more stuff, and after a while I tried 'send 
$$0-stop'. This works perfectly!

Until I reboot the patch.

The message is then surprisingly changed to 'send $\$0-stop'. I thought escape 
characters weren't allowed!!!

Anyway, this translates to the following send-symbol in my start/stop button: 
$#0-stop

I think this is a bug? So that's why I'm e-mailing this, maybe you can do 
something with it.

If you open the attached test.pd, you'll see how my record abstraction looks. 
You can then open it, and you will see a lot of 'send $0-xxx' things there. If 
you open the 'stopknop' patch you'll see where the problem is. I'm sorry the 
patches are in Dutch but you should be ok.

Cheers,

Boris






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Re: [PD] OT: PS3 eyecam on osx lion

2011-11-06 Thread Jean-Marie Adrien

wait for GEM 93 on os X  :) ?


Le 6 nov. 11 à 13:49, Budi Prakosa a écrit :


hi list, does anyone know how to make ps3 eyecam work on osx lion?
macam doesnt work

thanks!

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Re: [PD] symbol2list leading zero

2011-11-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2011-11-05 à 21:25:00, rolf meesters a écrit :

thanks Mathieu for your pointing out of GridFlow. by the way, a search 
for gridflow on the Pd-site, returns with a number of broken links. i 
gad to google for it.


I don't normally use http://puredata.info/ ... some people have written 
stuff in there, but I don't necessarily know about it or know how to 
update it.


Well, I just added GridFlow 9.13 (february 2011) as a «new release»...

And I wrote a note saying the «online manual» is no more and that it has 
been replaced by helpfiles two years ago.


Then there is a search result pointing to something written by zmoelnig in 
mi-2007, but clicking on it redirects to the generic page for all software 
(??). That's a problem with the search-tool, not with the content.


I only found one broken link (not counting the search-tool problem). Where 
are the others ?


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Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy isdiscontinued?

2011-11-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2011-11-05 à 22:32:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

GF supports 3 different ABIs of GEM, but now there's a new ABI that it 
isn't compatible with yet. It's the 3rd different GEM ABI to be 
labelled «0.93» so far. (but I don't remember which versions of GEM are 
bundled with Extended).


Is that a Pd-extended issue or a Gem issue?


I mention one of the GEM linkage problems as a different example of the 
same kind of problem.


I don't really know much about Gem's guts or C++ linking.  I was under 
the impression this issue is related to C++ name mangling.


Well, I have two problems with linking with GEM :

One is that the GEM ABI keeps changing (struct fields get added and 
deleted in header files needed to support GEM).


The other is that VisualC++'s ABI is not compatible with GCC's C++ ABI, 
and that makes it impossible to use [#to_pix] and [#from_pix] on Windows. 
It's both the name mangling and the exception-handling, but I got stuck at 
the name-mangling part.


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Re: [PD] soundfiler is slow; readsf~ no filelength

2011-11-06 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

Le 2011-11-06 à 08:38:00, Samuel Burt a écrit :

I installed a new version of gridflow. I'm happy to say it is so much 
easier to do than it used to be.


I don't know which old version you are referring to.

Gridflow is giving me this message: error: method 'endian' not found for 
inlet 0 in class '#io.grid' When I search for the error, Pd goes here: 
It highlights the receiving of $0-placeholder. Any idea why?


GridFlow reports the error as coming from [#io.grid], which is a plugin 
for the [#in] (and [#out]) abstractions. The $0-placeholder subpatch holds 
whichever object is created when you send «open», to handle your file or 
device, and when you send «close», it replaces it by a dummy object that 
just prints «not open».


It isn't giving me the number of samples, yet. It just prints the error 
and outputs 0.


I said that the support for «endian» was added (back) a few days ago. 
Therefore, it is not in packages. The latest published packages were made 
in february.


The patch contains two versions of the same thing, and the bigger of the 
two is the workaround for when «endian» is not supported yet.


I don't know how you can get 0. When I got the error message, I also got a 
very wrong value that wasn't 0. Do you really get 0, or no value ? use 
[print]. All the messages in the messagebox is important, and part of 
their order is important (open first, then configure the reader, then use 
bang to read, then close).


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Re: [PD] OT: PS3 eyecam on osx lion

2011-11-06 Thread Budi Prakosa
just tried the 2009 build and it has the same problem,
green frame output from pix_video

anyone know webcam that work with osx lion?


On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Jaime Oliver  wrote:
> the latest build they have seems to be from 2009. I'm just guessing
> here, but you might compile the driver yourself?
>
> best,
>
> J
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Budi Prakosa  wrote:
>> hi list, does anyone know how to make ps3 eyecam work on osx lion?
>> macam doesnt work
>>
>> thanks!
>>
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Re: [PD] OT: PS3 eyecam on osx lion

2011-11-06 Thread Jaime Oliver
the latest build they have seems to be from 2009. I'm just guessing
here, but you might compile the driver yourself?

best,

J

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> hi list, does anyone know how to make ps3 eyecam work on osx lion?
> macam doesnt work
>
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[PD] OT: PS3 eyecam on osx lion

2011-11-06 Thread Budi Prakosa
hi list, does anyone know how to make ps3 eyecam work on osx lion?
macam doesnt work

thanks!

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Re: [PD] Rép : PDGST - no pix_gst2pix... and building Gem 0.93 with mac OS 10.6

2011-11-06 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
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On 11/05/2011 09:29 PM, Xavier Garnier wrote:
> Ok, thank you for all those issues. I've looked a bit deeper into the gem 
> 0.93.1 I've compiled and I have noticed that, though all my patches work like 
> with 0.92, the newest features (like pix_mano, pix_drum) were not compiled; 
> for example, answering the "sudo make install" command, Terminal gives me 
> many "Nothing to be done"s, like this part of the message :
> 
> 
> Making install in Base
> UNUSED SOURCES: 
> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
> test -z "/usr/local/include/Gem/Base" || ../.././install-sh -c -d 
> "/usr/local/include/Gem/Base"
>  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 CPPExtern.h GemBase.h GemGLBase.h GemGluObj.h 
> GemPathBase.h GemPixObj.h GemPixDualObj.h GemShape.h TextBase.h GemWindow.h 
> GemContext.h '/usr/local/include/Gem/Base'
> 
> 
> or this one :
> 
> 
> Making install in pix_mano
> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
> test -z "/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano" || ../.././install-sh -c -d 
> "/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano"
>  /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 LICENSE.txt pix_mano-help.pd 
> '/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano'
> test -z "/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano" || ../.././install-sh -c -d 
> "/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano"
>  /bin/sh ../../libtool   --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c   pix_mano.la 
> '/usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano'
> libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/pix_mano.pd_darwin 
> /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano/pix_mano.pd_darwin
> libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/pix_mano.lai 
> /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pix_mano/pix_mano.la

looks good to me

> -
> same for pix_drum and co...

then it's good as well...

> 
> the thing is that I "Made" and "Made Install" Gem 0.93.1 without being able 
> to ./configure (still because of that "Pd (Header) missing" message I don't 
> understand and can't do anything about).

you need to provide the paths to the Pd-headers with the "--with-pd" flag.
e.g. if you have installed Pd-extended and there are headers (m_pd.h) in
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Resources/Contents/include/pd
then do:
$ ./configure
- --with-pd=/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Resources/Contents/include/pd


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