Re: [PD] can anyone make screencasts of 0.43 editing features?
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[PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
I checked the help patch of [shell], but if I send a cd command for example, I don't think that something really happens. I actually would like to run a script from within Pd, but what I understand is that this can't be really done, is it so? Can anyone demonstrate something like this? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] raspberry pi user experience
* Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net [2013-01-28 10:41]: hello, i use the beringer UCA222 and got it to work with 5ms audio bufer with the pi in full duplex. great news! which sampling rate do you run by the way? I suppose the hardware AD/DAcs are fixed to 48k. I never completely understood this, and should actually ask the LAU list, but wonder where the resampling in Linux is done when you run Pd at 44k1. cheers Santé! P c Le 27/01/2013 20:40, katja a écrit : Both are already mentioned but I'd like to confirm that these do work on RPi (provided the USB speed is lowered as described in this thread): iMic and Behringer UCA202. Katja On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: I heard suggestions on the Pi sites (I forget exactly where) that the USB 2.0 implementation isn't compatible with a large variety of USB 2.0 devices (including for instance the Griffin iMic). So I don't think the issue is the load that USB 2.0 puts on the Pi, it's simply bugs. But I gather nobody is in a hurry to get them fixed - the attitude in Cambridge is that it's the devices' fault, not the Pi's. I have beem suspecting that my keyboard is also incompatible with the Pi at USB 1.1 speed. I haven't tried other keyboards yet since I'm usually happy to ssh in without any other USB devices (besides audio and ethernet) talking to the Pi. But this is not always true so soon enough I'll have to try other keyboards so I can get the thing working as a standalone computer. cheers Miller On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 04:50:16PM +0100, katja wrote: Thanks Pierre and Cyrille. It turned out that various keyboards and mouse just kill USB (when at 1.1) on the Pi. 'Keysonic Wireless Trackball Keyboard' happens to work well. The lower USB speed brings substantial improvement of the audio indeed. Now a real realtime kernel, that would probably improve things further. Katja On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote: i put it in front of everything : dwc_otg.speed=1 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait cheers c Le 27/01/2013 11:42, katja a écrit : Hello, Some people seem to have result with setting lower USB speed on the Pi, but when I try this, the Pi doesn't even respond to keyboard anymore. Checking /boot/cmdline.txt with another computer, I'm sure it is not due to a typo. But the order of settings may be important? Could anyone copy the full text of /boot/cmdline.txt for me, if you have keyboard working with lowered USB speed? (I'm not talking about good audio yet). Thanks, Katja On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Message to self: it seems that one has to wait for updated RPi USB firmware/drivers to get USB 2.0 audio going. Obviously the isochronous transfer mode as used by audio interfaces is currently broken. gr~~~ 2013/1/26 Thomas Grill g...@g.org Hi all, for my USB audio class 2.0 device Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 i can't report such good news. There is constant irregular crackling, not only with Pd but also with aplay etc. It seems related to USB bandwidth, since turning on and off the inputs in Pd changes crackling frequency. The dwc_otg.speed setting is not usable for me, since the device is dependent on USB 2.0 operation. Any experiences with USB 2.0 audio devices under ALSA/rpi? thanks, gr~~~ 2013/1/26 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net hello, I just install raspbian release and update it. then install pd 0.44.1 (without any specific optimisation flag) I made the standard optimisation : * - rtprio 99 * - memlock 10 in /etc/security/limits.conf and dwc_otg.speed=1 in /boot/cmdline.txt as suggested by miller I use a uca222 beringher (that cost about 20 or 25€) sound card. trying the test audio and midi, there is no click with 10ms audio buffer (with adc~ enable). this is with usb keyboard / mouse combo plugged and graphical interface (for the system and for pd). without X, audiobuf can be as low as 5ms having a usb keyboard did not change anything for me. i'm very happy cheers c ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
Re: [PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
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On 2013-01-29 11:23, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
I checked the help patch of [shell], but if I send a cd command
for example, I don't think that something really happens. I
actually would like to run a script from within Pd, but what I
understand is that this can't be really done, is it so? Can anyone
demonstrate something like this?
that's exactly the point: with [shell] you _should_ run scripts.
each command you send to [shell] will open a new context.
so if you send it a cd .., it will create a new context (in your
working directory, lets call it ${WD}), move one directory up (so we
are now in ${WD}/.., report any output (not very much in this case),
and close the context.
if you then send it a pwd, it will create a new context (in your
working directory ${WD}), print the PWD and close the context.
obviously your cd.. did not affect pwd, as they have been executed
in different contexts.
in order to do anything more complex, you have to create a
script-file, and run this via [shell].
e.g.
snip
#!/bin/sh
cd ..
pwd
/snip
and run myscript.sh via [shell] should give you ${WD}/..
fgamsdr
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Re: [PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
I don't really understand the meaning of 'context' (not the actual word,
but the way you're using it)..how are these contexts accessible? How are
commands being executed when sent to the same object?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote:
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On 2013-01-29 11:23, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
I checked the help patch of [shell], but if I send a cd command
for example, I don't think that something really happens. I
actually would like to run a script from within Pd, but what I
understand is that this can't be really done, is it so? Can anyone
demonstrate something like this?
that's exactly the point: with [shell] you _should_ run scripts.
each command you send to [shell] will open a new context.
so if you send it a cd .., it will create a new context (in your
working directory, lets call it ${WD}), move one directory up (so we
are now in ${WD}/.., report any output (not very much in this case),
and close the context.
if you then send it a pwd, it will create a new context (in your
working directory ${WD}), print the PWD and close the context.
obviously your cd.. did not affect pwd, as they have been executed
in different contexts.
in order to do anything more complex, you have to create a
script-file, and run this via [shell].
e.g.
snip
#!/bin/sh
cd ..
pwd
/snip
and run myscript.sh via [shell] should give you ${WD}/..
fgamsdr
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-01-29 11:59, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: I don't really understand the meaning of 'context' (not the actual word, but the way you're using it)..how are these contexts accessible? How are commands being executed when sent to the same object? a context is simply a new shell process (i tried to avoid the naming to prevent confusion with the [shell] object; seems like i failed). you cannot access it. it's very similar to the following. open a terminal (which will run an instance of /bin/sh) me@foo$ cd /tmp me@foo$ pwd /tmp me@foo$ /bin/sh sh-4.2$ pwd /tmp sh-4.2$ cd ~ sh-4.2$ pwd /home/me sh-4.2$ exit me@foo$ pwd /tmp me@foo$ /bin/sh sh-4.2$ pwd /tmp here you are running a shell session (context, process) within another shell; whatever you do with in the first sub-shell (lines 4..10), will not effect what you can do in the 2nd subshell (14..15) gvmnasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEHr8cACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTUmgCfcc2Ua7OGYpPkMu3+MFPvM2vV sx8AnjX/Jh2Z0CBrLDEq8xcVBBsR643d =z8B2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] raspberry pi user experience
hello, both 44.1K and 48K works. cheers c Le 29/01/2013 10:32, Peter P. a écrit : * Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net [2013-01-28 10:41]: hello, i use the beringer UCA222 and got it to work with 5ms audio bufer with the pi in full duplex. great news! which sampling rate do you run by the way? I suppose the hardware AD/DAcs are fixed to 48k. I never completely understood this, and should actually ask the LAU list, but wonder where the resampling in Linux is done when you run Pd at 44k1. cheers Santé! P c Le 27/01/2013 20:40, katja a écrit : Both are already mentioned but I'd like to confirm that these do work on RPi (provided the USB speed is lowered as described in this thread): iMic and Behringer UCA202. Katja On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: I heard suggestions on the Pi sites (I forget exactly where) that the USB 2.0 implementation isn't compatible with a large variety of USB 2.0 devices (including for instance the Griffin iMic). So I don't think the issue is the load that USB 2.0 puts on the Pi, it's simply bugs. But I gather nobody is in a hurry to get them fixed - the attitude in Cambridge is that it's the devices' fault, not the Pi's. I have beem suspecting that my keyboard is also incompatible with the Pi at USB 1.1 speed. I haven't tried other keyboards yet since I'm usually happy to ssh in without any other USB devices (besides audio and ethernet) talking to the Pi. But this is not always true so soon enough I'll have to try other keyboards so I can get the thing working as a standalone computer. cheers Miller On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 04:50:16PM +0100, katja wrote: Thanks Pierre and Cyrille. It turned out that various keyboards and mouse just kill USB (when at 1.1) on the Pi. 'Keysonic Wireless Trackball Keyboard' happens to work well. The lower USB speed brings substantial improvement of the audio indeed. Now a real realtime kernel, that would probably improve things further. Katja On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote: i put it in front of everything : dwc_otg.speed=1 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait cheers c Le 27/01/2013 11:42, katja a écrit : Hello, Some people seem to have result with setting lower USB speed on the Pi, but when I try this, the Pi doesn't even respond to keyboard anymore. Checking /boot/cmdline.txt with another computer, I'm sure it is not due to a typo. But the order of settings may be important? Could anyone copy the full text of /boot/cmdline.txt for me, if you have keyboard working with lowered USB speed? (I'm not talking about good audio yet). Thanks, Katja On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Message to self: it seems that one has to wait for updated RPi USB firmware/drivers to get USB 2.0 audio going. Obviously the isochronous transfer mode as used by audio interfaces is currently broken. gr~~~ 2013/1/26 Thomas Grill g...@g.org Hi all, for my USB audio class 2.0 device Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 i can't report such good news. There is constant irregular crackling, not only with Pd but also with aplay etc. It seems related to USB bandwidth, since turning on and off the inputs in Pd changes crackling frequency. The dwc_otg.speed setting is not usable for me, since the device is dependent on USB 2.0 operation. Any experiences with USB 2.0 audio devices under ALSA/rpi? thanks, gr~~~ 2013/1/26 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net hello, I just install raspbian release and update it. then install pd 0.44.1 (without any specific optimisation flag) I made the standard optimisation : * - rtprio 99 * - memlock 10 in /etc/security/limits.conf and dwc_otg.speed=1 in /boot/cmdline.txt as suggested by miller I use a uca222 beringher (that cost about 20 or 25€) sound card. trying the test audio and midi, there is no click with 10ms audio buffer (with adc~ enable). this is with usb keyboard / mouse combo plugged and graphical interface (for the system and for pd). without X, audiobuf can be as low as 5ms having a usb keyboard did not change anything for me. i'm very happy cheers c ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hallo, does someone has experiences with M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R or RME multiface or other devices with 8 or more channels? Can the PI handle so much channels? /Robert ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
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Le 29/01/2013 11:59, Alexandros Drymonitis a ?crit :
I don't really understand the meaning of 'context' (not the actual word, but
the way you're using
it)..how are these contexts accessible? How are commands being executed
when sent to the same object?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 2013-01-29 11:23, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
I checked the help patch of [shell], but if I send a cd command
for example, I don't think that something really happens. I
actually would like to run a script from within Pd, but what I
understand is that this can't be really done, is it so? Can anyone
demonstrate something like this?
that's exactly the point: with [shell] you _should_ run scripts.
each command you send to [shell] will open a new context.
so if you send it a cd .., it will create a new context (in your
working directory, lets call it ${WD}), move one directory up (so we
are now in ${WD}/.., report any output (not very much in this case),
and close the context.
if you then send it a pwd, it will create a new context (in your
working directory ${WD}), print the PWD and close the context.
obviously your cd.. did not affect pwd, as they have been executed
in different contexts.
in order to do anything more complex, you have to create a
script-file, and run this via [shell].
e.g.
snip
#!/bin/sh
cd ..
pwd
/snip
and run myscript.sh via [shell] should give you ${WD}/..
fgamsdr
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Hello,
By 'context', it is as if you start each time from the beginning (same
'initialization').
You see that when you open a new shell by creating a new terminal window :
1) open new terminal window
2) enter 'cd ..' then return
3) enter 'pwd' then return
4) close terminal window
5) open new terminal window
6) enter 'pwd' then return
As you can see the values returned by pwd are not the same because, each
time you open a terminal window, you open a new shell.
It is the same under Pd and the object [shell], each time you send a
message to [shell], each time you open a new shell.
That's why you need a script if you need to execute a sequence of
several commands.
++
Jack
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Re: [PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
Ok, I understand the whole 'context', shell thing. I tried what you guys
suggested in a terminal window and kind of got the picture. But the way
[shell] works remains a mystery to me (even though it's the same way a
teminal window works). I have a few scripts saved in a folder called
'scripts' in the 'Documents' folder in my home directory. In a terminal
window I do the following:
cd Documents/scripts/
sh myscript.sh
and the script runs, no problem. But what the equivalent action with
[shell]? The same steps won't give the same result..
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
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Le 29/01/2013 11:59, Alexandros Drymonitis a ￩crit :
I don't really understand the meaning of 'context' (not the actual word,
but the way you're using it)..how are these contexts accessible? How are
commands being executed when sent to the same object?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 2013-01-29 11:23, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
I checked the help patch of [shell], but if I send a cd command
for example, I don't think that something really happens. I
actually would like to run a script from within Pd, but what I
understand is that this can't be really done, is it so? Can anyone
demonstrate something like this?
that's exactly the point: with [shell] you _should_ run scripts.
each command you send to [shell] will open a new context.
so if you send it a cd .., it will create a new context (in your
working directory, lets call it ${WD}), move one directory up (so we
are now in ${WD}/.., report any output (not very much in this case),
and close the context.
if you then send it a pwd, it will create a new context (in your
working directory ${WD}), print the PWD and close the context.
obviously your cd.. did not affect pwd, as they have been executed
in different contexts.
in order to do anything more complex, you have to create a
script-file, and run this via [shell].
e.g.
snip
#!/bin/sh
cd ..
pwd
/snip
and run myscript.sh via [shell] should give you ${WD}/..
fgamsdr
IOhannes
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Hello,
By 'context', it is as if you start each time from the beginning (same
'initialization').
You see that when you open a new shell by creating a new terminal window :
1) open new terminal window
2) enter 'cd ..' then return
3) enter 'pwd' then return
4) close terminal window
5) open new terminal window
6) enter 'pwd' then return
As you can see the values returned by pwd are not the same because, each
time you open a terminal window, you open a new shell.
It is the same under Pd and the object [shell], each time you send a
message to [shell], each time you open a new shell.
That's why you need a script if you need to execute a sequence of several
commands.
++
Jack
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Re: [PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
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Re: [PD] raspberry pi user experience
* Robert Grah smilingmolec...@web.de [2013-01-29 13:30]: Hallo, does someone has experiences with M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R or RME multiface or other devices with 8 or more channels? Can the PI handle so much channels? The HDSP/Multiface solutions require a pci pcie pcmcia or express card slot. best, P /Robert ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PsVST
- Mail original - De: Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com I'm trying now put to work pdvst with ableton live.. To pdvst work I need to have installed pd-extended in an specific directory? At this moment I only download pdvst in website: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/ and put pdvst folder in the c:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/VST Plugins in this folder my Ableton Live uses like Plug-In Sources. After do that I don't have pdvst in Plug-In Devices. Some ideas? this works: C:\Program Files (x86)\Ableton\Live\Program\pdvst C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\Vstplugins\pdvst just do this and eventually remove the other files than DLLs in VstPlugins\pdvst, or simply add pdvst folder to ableton vst directories ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] weird error when installing pd
I installed vanilla from source, but will do this tonight.
I got distracted getting FFADO and my M-audio box working
Thanks for the updates
pp
-Original Message-
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:54 PM
To: Pagano, Patrick
Cc: pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmölnig
Subject: Re: [PD] weird error when installing pd
Thanks for the report. Turns out I forgot to add the quantal-i386 package.
Its up there now, please try again:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install pd-extended
.hc
On 01/28/2013 07:21 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
still getting:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
pd-extended
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 245 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/30.1 MB of archives.
After this operation, 74.3 MB of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 168184 files and directories currently
installed.) Unpacking pd-extended (from
.../pd-extended_0.43.1~20120926-1~quantal1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/pd-extended_0.43.1~20120926-1~quantal1_i386.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/cyclist', which is also in package
cyclist 0.1~alpha55-6
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/pd-extended_0.43.1~20120926-1~quantal1_i386.de
b
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
after running these
sudo add-apt-repository deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases `lsb_release
-c | awk '{print $2}'` main
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key
9f0fe587374bbe81 sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com
--recv-key D63D3D09C39F5EEB sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install
pd-extended
please advise
pp
From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] on behalf of
Pagano, Patrick [p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:58 PM
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner
Cc: pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmölnig
Subject: Re: [PD] weird error when installing pd
Thanks I will try again in about 1/2 hour 7:3o EST and report back
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 28, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
On 01/28/2013 02:36 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 01/28/2013 05:43, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
Installing pd on linux from the website directions i get
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y (Reading
database ... 166579 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking pd-extended (from
.../pd-extended_0.43.1~20120926-1~quantal1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/pd-extended_0.43.1~20120926-1~quantal1_i386
.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/cyclist', which is also in package
cyclist
0.1~alpha55-6
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken
pipe) Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/pd-extended_0.43.1~20120926-1~quantal1_i386
.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
there's an implicit package conflict (both pd-extended and
cyclist try to install the same file and you try to install both packages
at the same time).
usually, this is handled by marking the two packages to conflict
with each other (make them mutually exclusive), or rather: mark one
of the packages conflict with the other.
it seems that the pdx package does not have such a conflicts line,
which i guess is a bug.
in the meantime, you can simply manually remove the cyclist
package and install pdx only after that.
I've just uploaded all of the pd-extended 0.43.4 packages to
apt.puredata.info and signed them, so you should be getting an update
and it should no longer have either the without verification question or
the conflict with 'cyclist'.
.hc
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Re: [PD] Fwd: Lighting glitch, [alpha]-object depth detection
*Von: *Jack j...@rybn.org mailto:j...@rybn.org *Betreff: **Aw: [PD] Lighting glitch, [alpha]-object depth detection* *Datum: *17. Januar 2013 21:57:10 MEZ *An: *pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at Le 17/01/2013 10:18, Klemens Schmiady a écrit : Am 10.01.2013 18:38, schrieb Jack: Le 10/01/2013 16:22, Max a écrit : Am 10.01.2013 um 12:34 schrieb Jackj...@rybn.org: Le 10/01/2013 11:57, Klemens Schmiady a écrit : Am 10.01.2013 11:40, schrieb Cyrille Henry: hello, i can't reproduce this. is there anything special to do in the patch? cheers c Le 10/01/2013 11:06, Klemens Schmiady a écrit : Hey there, the sphere in combination with the lighting leads to strange artefacts as shown in the .jpg. Looking for a solution. I think, this is because your viewpoint come too close to your geo (sphere). Put a [max 2] (for example) on your Z axis for the viewpoint to avoid collision. i don't think it's that. i simplified the patch a bit more: with GEM: ver: 0.93.3 GEM: compiled: Nov 10 2011 i have the same phenomenon here. Yep, you are right Max. I think it was a problem with the near clipping plane of the frustum. But i was wrong... Cyrille, your patch seems to have the same problem if you put an alpha = 0.5, or i am wrong ? Here a patch that enable culling. Hoping it helps to solve _this_ problem. ++ Jack PS : dont't forget to start by rendering the light before geos with an argument in [gemhead] ;) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I implemented your patch into what I'm working on at the moment but the light goes all crazy and I don't know anything about openGL. The lightsource should be in the center of the patch somehow. Can you please help me with that! Thanks, Klemens ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Klemens, Can you tell us your configuration (OS, Graphic card, Pd version and Gem version) ? Have you put an _argument_ in your [gemhead] ? See example (in Gem help) if you didn't put it. You have to render lights before the first sphere. And the first sphere before the second sphere. In fact, in your patch you can't know what is render first because you don't have this argument. See attached patch if it works for you. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I tried you patch I there are no visual differences between yours and mine. I'm using win7, intel hd graphics 4000 card, pd 0.42.5 extended and gem 0.93.3. Thanks, Klemens ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] remote desktop on the Pi and other questions about it
In a recent workshop in Nantes I covered most of these network issues. http://spectrasoft.co.uk/~andyf/NANTES0113/rpi1.pdf (there are error in this, its work in progress for another workshop in Feb) A lot of hoops to jump though, but yes you can develop on the RPi using only one CAT5 cable and power (One cable when the RPi gets PoE). Really, you need to put all these commands in a pair of scripts, one on the host and one on the RPi (actually you can put them all in the host script and run the one on the board remotely upon successful connection :) On MacOS, masquerading to get internet back through the host without a separate router is really easy. What is missing from this brief intro is the amazing use that tcpdump, netcat, and ip can be, definitely tools worth learning when developing for embedded and SBC targets. cheers Andy On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:40:57PM -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hello Pi people, I just got one of these to mess with, getting it to run the OS was very simple, need help with other stuff. What do you recommend for remote desktopping (controlling the Pi via a laptop, by having the laptop's keyboard/trackpad as input and getting the screen to show what's going on). I know there's something called VNC around, but it seems to come in different softwares, which one(s) have you been using. Or, better put, just about anyone works? I got a macbook air I'd like to use that way, by the way, so I need to run from a MAC OS system. To see if I got this straight, all the hardware you need to plug them together is a crossover ethernet cable, right? That way, can the Pi also feed from the internet I'm getting into my macbook air vi wi-fi while it's being remotely controlled by the same laptop via the same cable? I guess that's it for now. I hope we can have sometime soon a nice page with several info on how to run Pd in the Pi in many ways. I could help on writting this kind of tutorial Cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [rpi] X11 forwarding woes
Root cannot open a display owned by another user. Logging in as user1 and then running a forwarded X application as user2 will fail unless user2 can write to the same display. As for ssh, I think -X is deprecated in favour of -Y for many reasons Also, why use ssh? Unless you are exposing the RPi directly to the internet (It is a COW installed system, not a RO live system so could be compromised), then why bother? The encrytion overhead is quite a drag on bandwidth. At least turn the cipher to a lightweight one like Blowfish. Otherwise, open the X using xhost and export a display setting. cheers, Andy On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:26:01PM +0100, Charles Goyard wrote: Hi list, just starting using pd on the rpi. It works well, but there's something strange with X11 forwarding. Doing: ssh -X 192.168.1.52 pd fails with : X Error of failed request: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty) Doing: ssh -Y 192.168.1.52 pd works. Doing: ssh -Y 192.168.1.52 sudo pd fails with : debug2: X11 connection uses different authentication protocol. X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Application initialization failed: couldn't connect to display localhost:10.0 So far I'm not that concerned with real-time priority, but what's my problem ? I found some clues on the internet but they were not helpful. Commands like xterm and wish and exported to my display as needed. Thanks for any idea. Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Arabic, Chinese, Hebrew, Kanji display/editing issues WAS: can anyone make screencasts of 0.43 editing features?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/29/2013 03:59 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2013-01-26 04:04, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: ? full unicode support, so Greek, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Hebrew, Arabic, etc. works in patches, filenames, MIDI device names, etc. doest this make the bidi-plugin obsolete or does it mean hebrew, arabic etc. without RTL-support? I guess I should correct and qualify that. I think that the _display_ of all unicode is working fine, but with Right-to-Left and probably especially Bi-Directional text, editing is still problematic. Also, the box widths are off when using Chinese and Kanji characters. They are much wider than the 'M' character that the box spacing is currently based off of. There is a patch to hard-code Pd to use spacing that is correct for Chinese and Kanji, but then it makes the boxes much too wide when using alphabets. The solution really is to make Tcl/pd-gui handle the box widths, which means some big changes to Pd that should happen anyway. .hc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRCAbPAAoJEJ8P5Yc3S76ByS4P/iB4wHBqqZOz8QbitJk362im ItPtUb8kkLG6T06PPqFjwEQYo1eJN8eHHJvptOSJ7N8U41nKOlnoNXTAS+SBE0lK 5ZST1qmp+VnkCU2IhdUnZ0fgAJwbAgd1oW0rBiYbxQKU4AAP1w461DwcxEnL7Cm0 QxHuONFeawo3wyc95Einzg8iaWblSBlFauhFAGdilYdlcYYHgV4AtIZ64LPhROe0 /F1uC+o1zK0GQcqljcnfxfFP39x31NqzUIRNyahZtacWhbU0N+GT9ElVK0bNoWiG bgT2/dfiE53Oaqt0Vi3zMOd9pYm9eALlg5BAcScYlSYhiVBkHgL7450dPn0Y5l4T MRzpqE3FGkWtcuh5Z7lLS6IORg4hjEn8biprZWpd/GAWsR4L6+G7Rz0bIe1hzNgC OfN+RKag7vYdaE3DR+9hDs06AGiJwioCyWs9mQ/EGXPpkxyLeTx0RQSp4hmceiEv rlzvjTJLos6DPZqH3fNY/fildpDGD4y0IsT+GKOxxQ5ZD+f5v9rbvOreb3BWn7GS 2WxFumBmPV2lQDz5InFxzXZWORywunEcN2XyVH/c05Co2opjvknkOXqJUz4r/riO jGQg1Sjsmch5uGhhDLP86AqmZhD2DjF+k2vtwgJ0spiooQX7gz68A1dNeNmcNdt8 M9zzK7DTJKWRb30IIGm5 =Fz9m -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] leap motion controller
did you have to resend your contact info? i applied early when garrett lisi posted a video about them on facebook. and only heard back a few months ago. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:10 AM, me.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also in the developers-program. so PD object in the works? :) i think ill pre-order one... m On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM, dreamer drea...@puikheid.nl wrote: I'm also in the developers-program. -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Can I run scripts with [shell]?
If you are using Pd-extended 0.43.4, or are willing to install pdlua/tclpd, I
recommend writing objects in Lua or Tcl rather than writing scripts for
[shell]. pdlua and Tclpd scripts will give you real Pd objects that act just
like Pd objects. [shell] is useful, but it works differently than normal Pd
objects.
Look in the Help Browser, under pdlua and tclpd for examples.
.hc
On 01/29/2013 07:56 AM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Ok, I understand the whole 'context', shell thing. I tried what you guys
suggested in a terminal window and kind of got the picture. But the way
[shell] works remains a mystery to me (even though it's the same way a
teminal window works). I have a few scripts saved in a folder called
'scripts' in the 'Documents' folder in my home directory. In a terminal
window I do the following:
cd Documents/scripts/
sh myscript.sh
and the script runs, no problem. But what the equivalent action with
[shell]? The same steps won't give the same result..
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
Le 29/01/2013 11:59, Alexandros Drymonitis a ￩crit :
I don't really understand the meaning of 'context' (not the actual word,
but the way you're using it)..how are these contexts accessible? How are
commands being executed when sent to the same object?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
mailto:zmoel...@iem.at zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 2013-01-29 11:23, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
I checked the help patch of [shell], but if I send a cd command
for example, I don't think that something really happens. I
actually would like to run a script from within Pd, but what I
understand is that this can't be really done, is it so? Can anyone
demonstrate something like this?
that's exactly the point: with [shell] you _should_ run scripts.
each command you send to [shell] will open a new context.
so if you send it a cd .., it will create a new context (in your
working directory, lets call it ${WD}), move one directory up (so we
are now in ${WD}/.., report any output (not very much in this case),
and close the context.
if you then send it a pwd, it will create a new context (in your
working directory ${WD}), print the PWD and close the context.
obviously your cd.. did not affect pwd, as they have been executed
in different contexts.
in order to do anything more complex, you have to create a
script-file, and run this via [shell].
e.g.
snip
#!/bin/sh
cd ..
pwd
/snip
and run myscript.sh via [shell] should give you ${WD}/..
fgamsdr
IOhannes
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Hello,
By 'context', it is as if you start each time from the beginning (same
'initialization').
You see that when you open a new shell by creating a new terminal window :
1) open new terminal window
2) enter 'cd ..' then return
3) enter 'pwd' then return
4) close terminal window
5) open new terminal window
6) enter 'pwd' then return
As you can see the values returned by pwd are not the same because, each
time you open a terminal window, you open a new shell.
It is the same under Pd and the object [shell], each time you send a
message to [shell], each time you open a new shell.
That's why you need a script if you need to execute a sequence of several
commands.
++
Jack
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Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path
On 01/25/2013 07:22 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path On 01/25/2013 06:24 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path [...] Also, is there a tcl variable that holds the paths that were set by a [declare], or one that holds the paths for the currently opened patches? -Jonathan Hmm, off the top of my head, I don't think you can get the canvas-local path (ie. [path] or [declare -path]) in the GUI. Someone wanted to search whatever libs they had loaded, or in the path of the patch that was loaded, so I think it is already desired. Yeah, it could be useful. Its a matter of someone implementing it. I can't think of any objections. It seems to me that it would basically end up having a mirror of the t_class struct in the GUI. That was one thing that was neat about the the object-oriented GUI approach of DesireData-- you ended up with a mirror of the Pd side of things (at least it looked that way). BTW-- I've done a little work on my rename hack, and it seems to work ok so far. The question is should the FUDI message that I generate look exactly like the FUDI message that triggered the event in Pd that generated the message to the gui in the first place, or does it just need to follow the FUDI syntax? Since pd-gui -- pd is FUDI, pd -- pd-gui should be too. Then it also fits in to the 'Pure Data' idea of the same message format everywhere, including within Pd, between pd and pd-gui, in the file format, in network communication, etc. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path On 01/25/2013 07:22 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path On 01/25/2013 06:24 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path [...] Also, is there a tcl variable that holds the paths that were set by a [declare], or one that holds the paths for the currently opened patches? -Jonathan Hmm, off the top of my head, I don't think you can get the canvas-local path (ie. [path] or [declare -path]) in the GUI. Someone wanted to search whatever libs they had loaded, or in the path of the patch that was loaded, so I think it is already desired. Yeah, it could be useful. Its a matter of someone implementing it. I can't think of any objections. It seems to me that it would basically end up having a mirror of the t_class struct in the GUI. That was one thing that was neat about the the object-oriented GUI approach of DesireData-- you ended up with a mirror of the Pd side of things (at least it looked that way). BTW-- I've done a little work on my rename hack, and it seems to work ok so far. The question is should the FUDI message that I generate look exactly like the FUDI message that triggered the event in Pd that generated the message to the gui in the first place, or does it just need to follow the FUDI syntax? Since pd-gui -- pd is FUDI, pd -- pd-gui should be too. Then it also fits in to the 'Pure Data' idea of the same message format everywhere, including within Pd, between pd and pd-gui, in the file format, in network communication, etc. Of course both messages will have the same syntax, but what about content: pd - pd: %x tip 1 Hello World pd - gui: %x.c tip 1 1 Hello World -Jonathan .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
Its time to announce the next big Pd-extended release, 0.43.4! This release
has the most new features of any release before, so many annoyances are gone,
many new tools help you patch, and. There will be more updates to cover some
of the new features here, in the form of news items on puredata.info, blog
posts, screencasts and more.
Download here for all platforms (Debian, Mac OS X, Mint, Raspbian, Ubuntu,
Windows, and of course the source code):
http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
For Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/etc., you can add an apt source by following the
instructions at the top of the page here:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
ChangeLog
---
Here you can get a good overview in what has changed, so you know where to
find out more.
changes since 0.43.1
* search-plugin included by default
* improved audio performance on Mac and Windows, Mac now uses half the
CPU when idle (portaudio update)
* (Windows) full unicode support
* support full unicode MIDI device names (portmidi)
* many completed translations
* many bugfixes
changes since 0.42.5
== changes to the editor ==
* GUI Plugins! can customize a wide array of features of the editor
* Autotips in Edit Mode to get information about inlets, outlets, and objects
* Magic Glass to snoop on messages as they pass thru connections
* Search everything! Thanks to Jonathan Wilkes' search plugin, now included
by default
* full Unicode support throughout Pd (there are still some layout issues
with right-to-left alphabets and character-based languages)
* fully localizable GUI, with full translations for French, German, Japanese,
Italian, and Greek
* full interface translations with limited search translation for Catalan,
Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Danish, German, Hungarian, Korean,
Portuguese (Brazil), Slovak, Spanish, Spanish (Mexico)
* partial translations for: Russian, Turkish
* contribute to translations: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puredata/
* paths are no longer saved in the preferences. Use the [path] or
[declare -path] objects, or use the standard global install locations
* complete Tcl/Tk 8.5 support and integration
* drastically improved Pd window logging/print performance (1000 lines/sec
and you can still patch)
* Ctrl-click/Cmd-click error messages in Pd window to find the object with
the error
* five log levels and dynamic filtering of Pd window log ('fatal, error,
normal, debug, all')
* library loading printed to Pd window at level 'debug' so the Pd window
is blank when Pd-extended starts
* hierarchical display of open subpatches/abstractions in Window menu:
http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease/window_hierarchy.png
* generate complete Pd window log using 'File-Save As..' when on the
Pd window
* 'File-New' creates the new patch in the folder of the current patch
* 'File-Print' now prints the entire canvas rather than just the visible
part (thanks Trevor Fancher)
* 'File-Save As...', 'Edit-Copy', and 'Edit-Select All' now work on
the Pd window
* Ctrl/Cmd and cycle through open windows
* added Autopatch, Autotips, and Perf Mode control on the Edit menu
* improved handling of multiple monitors
* (GNU/Linux) realtime mode enabled by default (-rt)
* (GNU/Linux) window placement logic can be handled in plugin for better
support of many Window Managers (`pdtk_canvas_place_window`)
* (GNU/Linux and Mac OS X) [comport] no longer crashes Pd when open
USB-serial devices are unplugged
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) !TkDND drag-n-drop support for dropping files
onto Pd and patch windows
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) added Alt shortcuts to menus
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) Navigate menus with arrow keys
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) Pd window and patchses now have a Pd icon
when Alt-Tabbing
* (Windows) zip-only distro with pd-extended.bat to run without installing
== updates to the core ==
* updated to latest stable portaudio v19-20110326
* free methods always called on quit, so cameras, network sockets, etc.
are properly freed
* GUI objects no longer send pointless draw updates, reducing GUI load
* (Windows) external libraries can now include DLLs in a library folder
* [loadbang] has a convenience inlet
* sys_open() / sys_close() and sys_fopen() / sys_fclose() functions in
m_pd.h for full UTF-8 support in externals that use files
== updates to libraries and objects ==
* added all lowercase aliases to cyclone for Max/MSP = 4.6 compatibility
* fix type-punned pointer issues in most externals so everything is built
using auto-vectorization optimization on all platforms
* [sys_gui] now outputs a bang when the command completes
* [canvas_name] can query based on inlet, using float as depth and symbol
for canvas name
* [tabplay~] can play up to 13.5 hour long tables accurately (up from 6 mins)
* (Windows) fixed 'unauthorized' GUI objects [playlist], [cooled~], etc.
[PD] How to change the Z-order of gui elements ?
Hi list, When I do GOP stuff, I like putting a colored canvas behind the controls. However, gui elements created before the canvas appear under the canvas. I found out I can edit the patch file with a text editor and change the order of lines. But it's not very practical and a bit error prone. Is there another way to change the Z-order of guis in vanilla and extended ? Thanks, -- Charlot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [rpi] X11 forwarding woes
Hi, Andy Farnell wrote: Otherwise, open the X using xhost and export a display setting. I forgot about that one. Thanks for the reminder. I miss the rsh/rlogin good old days :). -- Charlot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to change the Z-order of gui elements ?
Select-all, then deselect the canvas, then cut then paste. That's how I do it. pd-l2ork has commands for send-to-front/send-to-back, that would be great to get included in Pd-extended. Its just a matter of someone doing the work... and my time is limited these days. .hc On 01/29/2013 04:54 PM, Charles Goyard wrote: Hi list, When I do GOP stuff, I like putting a colored canvas behind the controls. However, gui elements created before the canvas appear under the canvas. I found out I can edit the patch file with a text editor and change the order of lines. But it's not very practical and a bit error prone. Is there another way to change the Z-order of guis in vanilla and extended ? Thanks, ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
what about dial? that, gggee moog~ and iemlib resonant vcfs is the
only reason i use pd extended
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
Its time to announce the next big Pd-extended release, 0.43.4! This release
has the most new features of any release before, so many annoyances are gone,
many new tools help you patch, and. There will be more updates to cover some
of the new features here, in the form of news items on puredata.info, blog
posts, screencasts and more.
Download here for all platforms (Debian, Mac OS X, Mint, Raspbian, Ubuntu,
Windows, and of course the source code):
http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
For Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/etc., you can add an apt source by following the
instructions at the top of the page here:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
ChangeLog
---
Here you can get a good overview in what has changed, so you know where to
find out more.
changes since 0.43.1
* search-plugin included by default
* improved audio performance on Mac and Windows, Mac now uses half the
CPU when idle (portaudio update)
* (Windows) full unicode support
* support full unicode MIDI device names (portmidi)
* many completed translations
* many bugfixes
changes since 0.42.5
== changes to the editor ==
* GUI Plugins! can customize a wide array of features of the editor
* Autotips in Edit Mode to get information about inlets, outlets, and objects
* Magic Glass to snoop on messages as they pass thru connections
* Search everything! Thanks to Jonathan Wilkes' search plugin, now included
by default
* full Unicode support throughout Pd (there are still some layout issues
with right-to-left alphabets and character-based languages)
* fully localizable GUI, with full translations for French, German, Japanese,
Italian, and Greek
* full interface translations with limited search translation for Catalan,
Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Danish, German, Hungarian, Korean,
Portuguese (Brazil), Slovak, Spanish, Spanish (Mexico)
* partial translations for: Russian, Turkish
* contribute to translations: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puredata/
* paths are no longer saved in the preferences. Use the [path] or
[declare -path] objects, or use the standard global install locations
* complete Tcl/Tk 8.5 support and integration
* drastically improved Pd window logging/print performance (1000 lines/sec
and you can still patch)
* Ctrl-click/Cmd-click error messages in Pd window to find the object with
the error
* five log levels and dynamic filtering of Pd window log ('fatal, error,
normal, debug, all')
* library loading printed to Pd window at level 'debug' so the Pd window
is blank when Pd-extended starts
* hierarchical display of open subpatches/abstractions in Window menu:
http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease/window_hierarchy.png
* generate complete Pd window log using 'File-Save As..' when on the
Pd window
* 'File-New' creates the new patch in the folder of the current patch
* 'File-Print' now prints the entire canvas rather than just the visible
part (thanks Trevor Fancher)
* 'File-Save As...', 'Edit-Copy', and 'Edit-Select All' now work on
the Pd window
* Ctrl/Cmd and cycle through open windows
* added Autopatch, Autotips, and Perf Mode control on the Edit menu
* improved handling of multiple monitors
* (GNU/Linux) realtime mode enabled by default (-rt)
* (GNU/Linux) window placement logic can be handled in plugin for better
support of many Window Managers (`pdtk_canvas_place_window`)
* (GNU/Linux and Mac OS X) [comport] no longer crashes Pd when open
USB-serial devices are unplugged
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) !TkDND drag-n-drop support for dropping files
onto Pd and patch windows
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) added Alt shortcuts to menus
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) Navigate menus with arrow keys
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) Pd window and patchses now have a Pd icon
when Alt-Tabbing
* (Windows) zip-only distro with pd-extended.bat to run without installing
== updates to the core ==
* updated to latest stable portaudio v19-20110326
* free methods always called on quit, so cameras, network sockets, etc.
are properly freed
* GUI objects no longer send pointless draw updates, reducing GUI load
* (Windows) external libraries can now include DLLs in a library folder
* [loadbang] has a convenience inlet
* sys_open() / sys_close() and sys_fopen() / sys_fclose() functions in
m_pd.h for full UTF-8 support in externals that use files
== updates to libraries and objects ==
* added all lowercase aliases to cyclone for Max/MSP = 4.6 compatibility
* fix type-punned pointer issues in most externals so everything is built
using auto-vectorization optimization on all platforms
* [sys_gui] now outputs a bang when the
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
or knob instead of dial and can i still install it through the apt-get update through puredata.info repository ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended, apt.puredata.info for debian
Hello,
I didn't manage to use the apt.puredata.info repository with a linux
mint debian edition os, as proposed in http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
when I try to automatically add the repository in my source.list, the
repository is not found when apt-get update, maybe because
$ lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}'
$ debian
and there is no debian folder at http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/
when I try to add manually the repository in my source.list with rather :
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
$ sudo apt-get update
W: Conflicting distribution: http://apt.puredata.info wheezy Release
(expected wheezy but got )
$
my source.list :
deb http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import backport
deb-src http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import
backport
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest testing main contrib
non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/security
testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/multimedia testing main
non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
did I miss something ?
thks
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Re: [PD] How to change the Z-order of gui elements ?
haha i ruined an entire pd patch once while trying to force a canvas to the back using a text editor it took quite a while to get all the cables connected back up correctly On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Select-all, then deselect the canvas, then cut then paste. That's how I do it. pd-l2ork has commands for send-to-front/send-to-back, that would be great to get included in Pd-extended. Its just a matter of someone doing the work... and my time is limited these days. .hc On 01/29/2013 04:54 PM, Charles Goyard wrote: Hi list, When I do GOP stuff, I like putting a colored canvas behind the controls. However, gui elements created before the canvas appear under the canvas. I found out I can edit the patch file with a text editor and change the order of lines. But it's not very practical and a bit error prone. Is there another way to change the Z-order of guis in vanilla and extended ? Thanks, ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
Hey, I'm having an annoying hard time with the find function. If I find something once, it's cool, but if I try to find the same thing again, it doesn't do that. Anyone else? sorry for not finding this issue earlier. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
I didnt mean just once. I meant like, if I browse throughout the patch getting all mathces once, it is fine. If I go for it again, nope... 2013/1/29 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com Hey, I'm having an annoying hard time with the find function. If I find something once, it's cool, but if I try to find the same thing again, it doesn't do that. Anyone else? sorry for not finding this issue earlier. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
knob is in 'flatgui' a new lib that should be loaded by default. Try reseting your preferences with the new Reset to Defaults button in the Preferences panel. .hc On 01/29/2013 05:39 PM, Billy Stiltner wrote: or knob instead of dial and can i still install it through the apt-get update through puredata.info repository ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 03:36:41PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Its time to announce the next big Pd-extended release, 0.43.4! This release Since its official I'll like to say well done and thanks to Hans and all for the ongoing effort. a. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended, apt.puredata.info for debian
Hmm... I'm not sure how to handle Linux Mint Debian. Is it tracking
Debian/testing? Looks like Mint has done something weird there. lsb_release
-c should return 'wheezy' to make sense, IMHO. I tried something to fix this.
About the W: Conflicting distribution warning, I think that should be fixed
now.
Please try again and let me know either way if it works or not:
apt-get update
apt-get install pd-extended
.hc
On 01/29/2013 05:34 PM, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote:
Hello,
I didn't manage to use the apt.puredata.info repository with a linux mint
debian edition os, as proposed in http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
when I try to automatically add the repository in my source.list, the
repository is not found when apt-get update, maybe because
$ lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}'
$ debian
and there is no debian folder at http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/
when I try to add manually the repository in my source.list with rather :
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
$ sudo apt-get update
W: Conflicting distribution: http://apt.puredata.info wheezy Release (expected
wheezy but got )
$
my source.list :
deb http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import backport
deb-src http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import backport
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/security testing/updates main
contrib non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/multimedia testing main
non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
did I miss something ?
thks
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
still didn't try it out but want to say thank you for the great effort!
JoseFornari
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
Its time to announce the next big Pd-extended release, 0.43.4! This release
has the most new features of any release before, so many annoyances are gone,
many new tools help you patch, and. There will be more updates to cover some
of the new features here, in the form of news items on puredata.info, blog
posts, screencasts and more.
Download here for all platforms (Debian, Mac OS X, Mint, Raspbian, Ubuntu,
Windows, and of course the source code):
http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4
For Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/etc., you can add an apt source by following the
instructions at the top of the page here:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
ChangeLog
---
Here you can get a good overview in what has changed, so you know where to
find out more.
changes since 0.43.1
* search-plugin included by default
* improved audio performance on Mac and Windows, Mac now uses half the
CPU when idle (portaudio update)
* (Windows) full unicode support
* support full unicode MIDI device names (portmidi)
* many completed translations
* many bugfixes
changes since 0.42.5
== changes to the editor ==
* GUI Plugins! can customize a wide array of features of the editor
* Autotips in Edit Mode to get information about inlets, outlets, and objects
* Magic Glass to snoop on messages as they pass thru connections
* Search everything! Thanks to Jonathan Wilkes' search plugin, now included
by default
* full Unicode support throughout Pd (there are still some layout issues
with right-to-left alphabets and character-based languages)
* fully localizable GUI, with full translations for French, German, Japanese,
Italian, and Greek
* full interface translations with limited search translation for Catalan,
Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Danish, German, Hungarian, Korean,
Portuguese (Brazil), Slovak, Spanish, Spanish (Mexico)
* partial translations for: Russian, Turkish
* contribute to translations: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puredata/
* paths are no longer saved in the preferences. Use the [path] or
[declare -path] objects, or use the standard global install locations
* complete Tcl/Tk 8.5 support and integration
* drastically improved Pd window logging/print performance (1000 lines/sec
and you can still patch)
* Ctrl-click/Cmd-click error messages in Pd window to find the object with
the error
* five log levels and dynamic filtering of Pd window log ('fatal, error,
normal, debug, all')
* library loading printed to Pd window at level 'debug' so the Pd window
is blank when Pd-extended starts
* hierarchical display of open subpatches/abstractions in Window menu:
http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease/window_hierarchy.png
* generate complete Pd window log using 'File-Save As..' when on the
Pd window
* 'File-New' creates the new patch in the folder of the current patch
* 'File-Print' now prints the entire canvas rather than just the visible
part (thanks Trevor Fancher)
* 'File-Save As...', 'Edit-Copy', and 'Edit-Select All' now work on
the Pd window
* Ctrl/Cmd and cycle through open windows
* added Autopatch, Autotips, and Perf Mode control on the Edit menu
* improved handling of multiple monitors
* (GNU/Linux) realtime mode enabled by default (-rt)
* (GNU/Linux) window placement logic can be handled in plugin for better
support of many Window Managers (`pdtk_canvas_place_window`)
* (GNU/Linux and Mac OS X) [comport] no longer crashes Pd when open
USB-serial devices are unplugged
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) !TkDND drag-n-drop support for dropping files
onto Pd and patch windows
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) added Alt shortcuts to menus
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) Navigate menus with arrow keys
* (GNU/Linux and Windows) Pd window and patchses now have a Pd icon
when Alt-Tabbing
* (Windows) zip-only distro with pd-extended.bat to run without installing
== updates to the core ==
* updated to latest stable portaudio v19-20110326
* free methods always called on quit, so cameras, network sockets, etc.
are properly freed
* GUI objects no longer send pointless draw updates, reducing GUI load
* (Windows) external libraries can now include DLLs in a library folder
* [loadbang] has a convenience inlet
* sys_open() / sys_close() and sys_fopen() / sys_fclose() functions in
m_pd.h for full UTF-8 support in externals that use files
== updates to libraries and objects ==
* added all lowercase aliases to cyclone for Max/MSP = 4.6 compatibility
* fix type-punned pointer issues in most externals so everything is built
using auto-vectorization optimization on all platforms
* [sys_gui] now outputs a bang when the command
Re: [PD] Start Katja's Pd from command line on rpi with full path (was) Raspberry Pi does denormals
Hey, So after rechecking my unpacking of the tar.gz it was a user-error rather than a problem with permissions. So Katja build should work fine (does here). Best wishes, Julian On 25 January 2013 20:43, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry that must be my fault, archived it with default options. I'll have a look into that and let you know when a better .tar is uploaded. Katja On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Katja, Thanks for this. When I cd into bin then ./pd I get 'permission denied'. And sudo'd I get 'command not found'. Any other ideas? Jb On 25 January 2013 15:36, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julian, Most convenient is to go in the bin directory of that 'local' Pd with cd /place/where/new/pd/is/bin From there you can start (and restart) the local Pd with ./pd In my case, the recompiled Pd would not start because it could not find libportaudio.so.2. After installing libportaudio2 via Synaptic, 'normalized' Pd would finally start. It is no problem to have the regular Pd still installed. Maybe you can install the local Pd over the regular Pd using the gnumakefile. Didn't try that, I don't like to install things without package manager. Katja On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Excuse my ignorance: not sure how to start the below version of pd on the rpi? I have the full path but then what? if I do (in command line) pd /place/where/new/pd/is/bin/pd It signals watchdog. I also still have regular pd 0.44.0 installed btw. Sorry if this is dumb dumb dumb dumb Duuummmbbb. Jb On 24 January 2013 09:14, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: 'Undenormalized' Pd build for Raspberry Pi is temporarily parked here for testing purposes (will be removed when Miller's release is fixed in this sense): www.katjaas.nl/temp/pd-0.44-0-normalized.tar.gz This is a locally installed Pd, like Miller's distribution. You can start it from command line with the full path to pd-0.44-0-normalized/bin/pd. It's not a .deb, so it can't be installed under supervision of package manager. Katja On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Katja, Would you mind sharing the 'normalised' Pd-0.44.0 for RPi please. Cheers, Julian On 23 January 2013 18:23, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Now I recompiled the Pd-0.44.0 release on Raspberry Pi (took me a few hours, not only because Pi is so slow) with PD_BIGORSMALL enabled for arm in m_pd.h. Using bigorsmalltest.pd from my previous mail I verified that the macro is implemented indeed. Martin Brinkmann's patch chaosmonster1 (http://www.martin-brinkmann.de) gives a beautiful illustration of the improvement. This patch is full of filters and delay lines. At it's initial settings, there is no subnormals problem. But if you set the bottom slider to the right, it gets silent. With Pd-0.44-0 release, CPU load explodes. With the 'normalized' Pd, nothing special happens. And indeed, the PD_BIGORSMALL conditional checks come for free: with initial settings of the chaosmonster1, performance is equivalent in both Pd's. Cool! Hopefully this is similar on armv7. Katja On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: hey Katya, This also sounds like good evidence for your idea of writing C code that modern compilers optimize well. Using unions for aliasing allows the compiler to do all the new tricks, then writing loops that auto-vectorize gives us the real benefits. Also, I think we can see some gains by using memcpy() since on modern libc version, those are highly optimized for the given CPU, dynamically choosing the routines based on what instructions are available. memcpy will use things like SSSE2 if its available. .hc On 01/23/2013 07:47 AM, katja wrote: Finally some good news on this topic. Earlier I stated that 'big or small tests' are expensive for the Pi, but that is not by definition the case. There must have been other conditions blurring my impression. I've now done a systematic test where other influences are ruled out. A test class [lopass~] with exactly the same routine as [lop~] was made, but compiled with PD_BIGORSMALL() macro enabled. It was verified that [lopass~] is not affected by denormals. Performance comparison of [lop~] and [lopass~] shows that both objects cause equivalent CPU load. Meaning, Raspberry Pi gives the 'big or small checks' for free! At least in the case of
Re: [PD] Pd-extended, apt.puredata.info for debian
For LMDE, just use 'wheezy'. I just tried and its too coplicated to support
'debian'. please try 'apt-get update' again, I should have fixed that warning
too.
.hc
On 01/29/2013 07:01 PM, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote:
yes, weird way LMDE call itself
it works now with deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main (so manual
edition of source.list), no more W: Conflicting distribution warning
with deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases debian main :
W: Conflicting distribution : http://apt.puredata.info debian Release
(expected debian, but got testing sid debian)
++thanks
benjamin
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
Le 30/01/2013 00:25, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
Hmm... I'm not sure how to handle Linux Mint Debian. Is it tracking
Debian/testing? Looks like Mint has done something weird there. lsb_release
-c should return 'wheezy' to make sense, IMHO. I tried something to fix
this.
About the W: Conflicting distribution warning, I think that should be fixed
now.
Please try again and let me know either way if it works or not:
apt-get update
apt-get install pd-extended
.hc
On 01/29/2013 05:34 PM, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote:
Hello,
I didn't manage to use the apt.puredata.info repository with a linux mint
debian edition os, as proposed in http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
when I try to automatically add the repository in my source.list, the
repository is not found when apt-get update, maybe because
$ lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}'
$ debian
and there is no debian folder at http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/
when I try to add manually the repository in my source.list with rather :
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
$ sudo apt-get update
W: Conflicting distribution: http://apt.puredata.info wheezy Release
(expected
wheezy but got )
$
my source.list :
deb http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import backport
deb-src http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import
backport
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest testing main contrib
non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/security testing/updates
main
contrib non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/multimedia testing main
non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
did I miss something ?
thks
++Benjamin
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Re: [PD] How to change the Z-order of gui elements ?
- Original Message - From: Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr To: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:54 PM Subject: [PD] How to change the Z-order of gui elements ? Hi list, When I do GOP stuff, I like putting a colored canvas behind the controls. However, gui elements created before the canvas appear under the canvas. I found out I can edit the patch file with a text editor and change the order of lines. But it's not very practical and a bit error prone. Is there another way to change the Z-order of guis in vanilla and extended ? Cut the object, then paste it to put it in front. Or in Pd-l2ork: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af9KiJfSp68 -Jonathan Thanks, -- Charlot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended, apt.puredata.info for debian
yes, with 'wheezy' it works fine
with 'debian' W: Impossible de récupérer
http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/debian/main/binary-i386/Packages
404 Not Found
but don't bother with that
thks
++b
Le 30/01/2013 01:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
For LMDE, just use 'wheezy'. I just tried and its too coplicated to support
'debian'. please try 'apt-get update' again, I should have fixed that warning
too.
.hc
On 01/29/2013 07:01 PM, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote:
yes, weird way LMDE call itself
it works now with deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main (so manual
edition of source.list), no more W: Conflicting distribution warning
with deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases debian main :
W: Conflicting distribution : http://apt.puredata.info debian Release
(expected debian, but got testing sid debian)
++thanks
benjamin
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
Le 30/01/2013 00:25, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
Hmm... I'm not sure how to handle Linux Mint Debian. Is it tracking
Debian/testing? Looks like Mint has done something weird there. lsb_release
-c should return 'wheezy' to make sense, IMHO. I tried something to fix this.
About the W: Conflicting distribution warning, I think that should be fixed
now.
Please try again and let me know either way if it works or not:
apt-get update
apt-get install pd-extended
.hc
On 01/29/2013 05:34 PM, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote:
Hello,
I didn't manage to use the apt.puredata.info repository with a linux mint
debian edition os, as proposed in http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian
when I try to automatically add the repository in my source.list, the
repository is not found when apt-get update, maybe because
$ lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}'
$ debian
and there is no debian folder at http://apt.puredata.info/releases/dists/
when I try to add manually the repository in my source.list with rather :
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
$ sudo apt-get update
W: Conflicting distribution: http://apt.puredata.info wheezy Release (expected
wheezy but got )
$
my source.list :
deb http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import backport
deb-src http://mirror.tuxis.nl/packages/ debian main upstream import backport
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/security testing/updates main
contrib non-free
deb http://lmde-mirror.gwendallebihan.net/latest/multimedia testing main
non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases wheezy main
did I miss something ?
thks
++Benjamin
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
Hi there, I started abusing the new extended release and I have same problem here with Find (max osx 10.6.8). Furthermore, my mac keyboard stops working after some time editing --not always, but I haven't find an action that provokes this behaviour yet,-- and switching between edit and performance modes (cmd-e) doesn't always work. Related to this, --misunderstanding?!-- I don't really understand the use of two Edit mode entries in the edit menu, one shortcut as alt-cmd-E, the other as cmd-e... do they have different uses? might this be causing the problem? or is it just my confusion with the new functionalities? best, Ángel On 29/01/2013, at 23:51, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I didnt mean just once. I meant like, if I browse throughout the patch getting all mathces once, it is fine. If I go for it again, nope... 2013/1/29 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com Hey, I'm having an annoying hard time with the find function. If I find something once, it's cool, but if I try to find the same thing again, it doesn't do that. Anyone else? sorry for not finding this issue earlier. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Ángel Faraldo _ www.angelfaraldo.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!
now that you mentioned, I had this issue once of not being able to get into the edit mode and out, neither from the shortcut nor the window option. I'm on OS 10.7.5 2013/1/30 Ángel Faraldo angelfara...@gmail.com Hi there, I started abusing the new extended release and I have same problem here with Find (max osx 10.6.8). Furthermore, my mac keyboard stops working after some time editing --not always, but I haven't find an action that provokes this behaviour yet,-- and switching between edit and performance modes (cmd-e) doesn't always work. Related to this, --misunderstanding?!-- I don't really understand the use of two Edit mode entries in the edit menu, one shortcut as alt-cmd-E, the other as cmd-e... do they have different uses? might this be causing the problem? or is it just my confusion with the new functionalities? best, Ángel On 29/01/2013, at 23:51, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I didnt mean just once. I meant like, if I browse throughout the patch getting all mathces once, it is fine. If I go for it again, nope... 2013/1/29 Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com Hey, I'm having an annoying hard time with the find function. If I find something once, it's cool, but if I try to find the same thing again, it doesn't do that. Anyone else? sorry for not finding this issue earlier. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Ángel Faraldo _ www.angelfaraldo.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
