Re: [PD] Data structures: no object for freeing pointers?
I'd like one day to understand how to implement DS into a GOP, it's a bit triky, then on a single window it's possible to have the whole interface. I wrote something about it in a thread some weeks ago: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2013-05/102819.html it's not really possible to do this in the context we're talking about because we don't know which scalar is modified when it's embedded into an array, a way would be about using y value, but in this case y is always = 0 ah, you mean an element instead of a scalar (although they're all scalars when drawn). the only way I would remember now would be use the [struct] output to trigger a comparation of the previous array with the current one, saved as lists. not optimal at all, but it can work if there aren't too many elements. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Patchingcirclebxl] Pure data patching circle Brussels @ Variable #10
Here is the announce for the next session of the Pure Data Patching Circle in Brussels, Constant Variable house. welcome (please register) sorry for crossposting hello, voici l'annonce pour la prochaine session du Cercle de Developpement Pure Data à Bruxelles, Constant Variable. bienvenue (veuillez réserver svp) veuillez excuser pour la redite s'il en est... bien cordialement, Olivier Meunier http://patchingcircles.be http://ogeem.be - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _*Pure data patching circle Brussels @ Variable #10*_ *29 June 2013* *EN :* *//*The Patching Circles are open workshop session to learn and share about the pure-data software and other. /PureData for Tablet and other Mobile Platforms/ During this session we'll look at different tools available to use puredata with a mobile platform with iOS or Android. First we'll quickly explore several customisable GUI apps to connect with puredata on your computer and the protocol they use (OSC - Midi / Serial - Bluetooth - wifi ), to develop your own interfaces f.ex : Control (OSC-Midi) http://charlie-roberts.com/Control/ ; TouchOSC http://hexler.net/software/touchosc ; Fantastik ; ... Then we'll discover how to directly embed patches within a mobile app. with the libpd core library and frameworks like DroidParty/iOSParty or OpenFrameworks to generate an interface. Yacine Sebti will come to share his experience in the matter. bring your own device (android or iOS) to patch on, (and your earplug if you are willing to play with sound) free and open for anyone, debuting as well as veteran, subscribe please: pdcirc...@ogeem.be _*mailing list: *_ to get updates and participate in the group discussion, you can join the mailing list here https://listes.domainepublic.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patchingcirclebxl - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *FR * Les Patching Circles sont des sessions d'ateliers ouverts pour apprendre et partager à propos du logiciel Pure-data et autres. *29 juin 2013* ? 13h/18h / PureData sur Tablette et autres Plateformes Mobiles./ Durant cette session nous allons voir differents outils disponibles pour utiliser puredata sur une platforme mobile avec iOS ou Android. Premièrement nous allons rapidement explorer quelques systèmes d'interface graphique utilisateur (GUI) pour connecter puredata avec un ordinateur ansi que les protocoles qu'ils utilisent (OSC - Midi / Serial - Bluetooth - wifi ), pour pouvoir développer ser propres interfaces p.ex : http://charlie-roberts.com/Control/ : Control (OSC-Midi) ; http://hexler.net/software/touchosc: TouchOSC ; Fantastik ; ... Ensuite nous allons découvrir comment directement embarquer des patches dans une application mobile. avec la librairie libpd et les environnement comme DroidParty/iOSParty ou OpenFrameworks pour générer des interfaces. *Yacine Sebti* viendra pour partager son expérience dans le domaine. apportez votre propre équipement (android ou iOS) pour patcher, (et vos écouteurs si vous voulez travailler le son... ) session libre et ouverte à tous, débutants comme confirmés. inscription svp : pdcirc...@ogeem.be *_mailing list : _* Pour avoir des infos et discussions sur le sujet avec le groupe de participants, rendez vous sur la mailing liste https://listes.domainepublic.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/patchingcirclebxl - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *direction* : Constant Variable Rue Gallait / Gallaitstraat 80 1030 Schaerbeek / Schaarbeek par Transport public: Tram 25, 55, 94: Liedt -- This project is supported by the Ministery of Culture of the Wallonia-Brussels Federation, Digital Arts -- -- Ce projet est supporté par le Ministère de la Culture de la Fédération Wallonie-Bruxelles, Arts Numériques-- *//* ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] l2ork externals install
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: [...] BTW, just did -F build here and it builds everything just fine. This suggests something may be off with your setup. Can you try installing whatever you've built and then trying to build from source again? If this succeeds that means that something in the build script fails to find relevant includes. Please send me your build log off-list so that I can investigate further. So I've just made a build with ./tar_em_up.sh without touching the sources, and it built fine and produced binaries for everything including those marked in LIB_TARGETS in externals/Makefile. Everything also installed fine by make install. In contrast, my previous attempt, where I added some elements to LIB_TARGETS manually, produced a lot less binaries. It seems that messing up with LIB_TARGETS in l2ork can have a negative impact on innocent libs too, at the moment. If I still have a question question after this, it's: what's the recommended way to add non-default libs to build with pd-l2ork? Thanks, András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] l2ork externals install
For the time being build them independently by hand after installing pd-l2ork. Also, if you recommend inclusion of specific libs and/or objects, we can put it on the todo list for vetting to see if they are stable enough to be included as-is and/or purpose a set of fixes before they can be included. Best wishes, Ico On Jun 23, 2013 2:16 PM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: [...] BTW, just did -F build here and it builds everything just fine. This suggests something may be off with your setup. Can you try installing whatever you've built and then trying to build from source again? If this succeeds that means that something in the build script fails to find relevant includes. Please send me your build log off-list so that I can investigate further. So I've just made a build with ./tar_em_up.sh without touching the sources, and it built fine and produced binaries for everything including those marked in LIB_TARGETS in externals/Makefile. Everything also installed fine by make install. In contrast, my previous attempt, where I added some elements to LIB_TARGETS manually, produced a lot less binaries. It seems that messing up with LIB_TARGETS in l2ork can have a negative impact on innocent libs too, at the moment. If I still have a question question after this, it's: what's the recommended way to add non-default libs to build with pd-l2ork? Thanks, András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] l2ork externals install
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: For the time being build them independently by hand after installing pd-l2ork. Alrite that will work. BTW, it's so easy to install a lib manually *when it's made upon the library template* and such a desperate jungle fight when not! :o) Also, if you recommend inclusion of specific libs and/or objects, we can put it on the todo list for vetting to see if they are stable enough to be included as-is and/or purpose a set of fixes before they can be included. Well, moonlib is built, and concerning miXed/toxy(/widget), I think it will have to go away because it's in a bad shape. I'll switch to tof/pmenu. So I'm a happy camper with what we have now. Just one question: are the abstractions (/abstractions in the source tree) installed anywhere? I don't see them in the .tar.bz either. Thanks for the guidance, András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GOP text field which sends bang?
Hi List, I'm trying to switch from oldstyle dropdown combo box (toxy/widget popup) to tof/plist which is a nice dropdown menu except it has no placeholder, but the menu appears wherever when sent a bang. My question is: do we have an object that - Displays and holds a text value (like Symbol or Message box), - is Graph-on-Parent, - emits a bang when clicked? It doesn't have to be Vanilla. Thanks, András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] l2ork: SSSAD loads but doesn't save presets
Dear List, I've been having a problem with SSSAD for a few weeks: it's able to load presets, but when it comes to saving, an empty state is written (i mean, it does write but it overwrites the previous content of the preset with nothingness). The example patches don't work either. There are no errors in the console and I have also overwritten the whole SSSAD folder with a newly downloaded one, still no joy. Tested in vanilla and it works. András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] My personal GEM preview inside a patch...
I've received few messages asking me if it's a joke... :-° Well... It's a kind of joke because it is useless... (I redraw the GEM stream in hundred of 2x2 canvas) But it's not joke in the way that it really works on my laptop / Linux Mint DE / Pd-extended 0.43.4 / GEM 0.93 at 4 fps... Sorry if I've crashed your OS with my stuff... Cheers... 01ivier Le 23.06.2013 17:33, Olivier Baudu a écrit : Hi list, I want to share with you a big victory for me... :-p I've succeeded in visualizing image/video GEM stream inside my patch (at 4 fps !!). Well... You can't really do anything else when the automatic mode is on... :-D ... but I'm so proud, you know. Patch attached. Screenshot here : http://codelab.fr/4343#p23267 Cheers 01ivier ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- On ne peut pas vivre dans un monde où l'on croit que l'élégance exquise du plumage de la pintade est inutile. Ceci est tout à fait à part. J'ai eu envie de le dire, je l'ai dit. Jean Giono, Un roi sans divertissement. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] l2ork: SSSAD loads but doesn't save presets
Is this in pd-l2ork? Up until recently in L2Ork we relied upon sssad exclusively for our preset needs, so I am fairly sure it works fine over here. I haven't tested it with latest version of pd-l2ork yet, though. That said, if you are using pd-l2ork why not use preset_hub and preset_node instead? It does everything sssad does and way more, like saving presets with the patch as well as ability to use multiple instances of the same abstraction and have its member nodes differentiated from each other. HTH On Jun 23, 2013 3:52 PM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, I've been having a problem with SSSAD for a few weeks: it's able to load presets, but when it comes to saving, an empty state is written (i mean, it does write but it overwrites the previous content of the preset with nothingness). The example patches don't work either. There are no errors in the console and I have also overwritten the whole SSSAD folder with a newly downloaded one, still no joy. Tested in vanilla and it works. András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] l2ork externals install
Not sure. Let me investigate. On Jun 23, 2013 3:16 PM, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: For the time being build them independently by hand after installing pd-l2ork. Alrite that will work. BTW, it's so easy to install a lib manually *when it's made upon the library template* and such a desperate jungle fight when not! :o) Also, if you recommend inclusion of specific libs and/or objects, we can put it on the todo list for vetting to see if they are stable enough to be included as-is and/or purpose a set of fixes before they can be included. Well, moonlib is built, and concerning miXed/toxy(/widget), I think it will have to go away because it's in a bad shape. I'll switch to tof/pmenu. So I'm a happy camper with what we have now. Just one question: are the abstractions (/abstractions in the source tree) installed anywhere? I don't see them in the .tar.bz either. Thanks for the guidance, András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
hi list! I seem to recall some changes about the way pd and jackd interact together but I couldn't find the related info online so forgive me if that was discussed already.. before, if I launched pd without jack running, pd would take more time to launch with a bunch of messages complaining that jack is not running... now, if jack is not running and I launch pd, pd starts jack by itself.. well... ok... the problem is that when I close pd, it just won't close (terminal would print watchdog... signaling pd messages forever) and unless I kill the created jackd process, the pd window would _never_ close argh. this is really annoying and looks like a regression to me.. should I submit an issue or is that a known one or was it discussed already (and I missed it)? running pd-0.45 on archlinux Linux x230 3.9.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMP ciao y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
Are you using 0.44? (I don't think 0.45 exists yet :) The only relevant thing I can find in recent commits is a change from jack_client_new() to jack_client_open() back in 2010. With apologies, here is the commit I found... commit 1022e5687bb5785904ba1b1977a9a29c9b6b25dc Author: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Date: Wed Jul 14 10:02:45 2010 +0200 properly handle shutdown of jackd and updated to new jack API in older versions of Pd, if the jackd shut down (e.g. because the user stopped it manually), Pd would just freeze and could not be revived (you have to KILL it) properly handling the jack_shutdown signal allows us to cleanup and continue to run. the user can then select another backend at their convenience. Pd's jack-backend mainly used _deprecated_ way of interfacing with jack (namely using jack_client_new() rather than jack_client_open()) the new API allows more flexibility (e.g. the jackd need not run before the application starts - if it is missing, it will be automatically launched) TODO: jack is actually a callback-based API... Signed-off-by: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Is it possible this bug has been there for the last three years? (i.e. 0.43 and 0.44 would have this problem)? cheers Miller On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 01:26:50AM +0200, yvan volochine wrote: hi list! I seem to recall some changes about the way pd and jackd interact together but I couldn't find the related info online so forgive me if that was discussed already.. before, if I launched pd without jack running, pd would take more time to launch with a bunch of messages complaining that jack is not running... now, if jack is not running and I launch pd, pd starts jack by itself.. well... ok... the problem is that when I close pd, it just won't close (terminal would print watchdog... signaling pd messages forever) and unless I kill the created jackd process, the pd window would _never_ close argh. this is really annoying and looks like a regression to me.. should I submit an issue or is that a known one or was it discussed already (and I missed it)? running pd-0.45 on archlinux Linux x230 3.9.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMP ciao y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] My personal GEM preview inside a patch...
I can confirm that it works for me. xubuntu, pd-extended 0.43.4, gem 0.93.3. So, a similar setup. I'm using a ps3 eye camera for the input. I changed the rate on the metro and managed to get about 10 fps on mine. :D Very awesome. Nice work. On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Olivier Baudu oliv...@labomedia.net wrote: I've received few messages asking me if it's a joke... :-° Well... It's a kind of joke because it is useless... (I redraw the GEM stream in hundred of 2x2 canvas) But it's not joke in the way that it really works on my laptop / Linux Mint DE / Pd-extended 0.43.4 / GEM 0.93 at 4 fps... Sorry if I've crashed your OS with my stuff... Cheers... 01ivier Le 23.06.2013 17:33, Olivier Baudu a écrit : Hi list, I want to share with you a big victory for me... :-p I've succeeded in visualizing image/video GEM stream inside my patch (at 4 fps !!). Well... You can't really do anything else when the automatic mode is on... :-D ... but I'm so proud, you know. Patch attached. Screenshot here : http://codelab.fr/4343#p23267 Cheers 01ivier ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- On ne peut pas vivre dans un monde où l'on croit que l'élégance exquise du plumage de la pintade est inutile. Ceci est tout à fait à part. J'ai eu envie de le dire, je l'ai dit. Jean Giono, Un roi sans divertissement. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
