Re: [PD] got jump-on-click arrays working
Oh, this is great news! Can´t give you any response on the two first questions but here is a fast response to the other two... On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi list, * I got jump-on-click arrays working. Basically you can click anywhere in the graph and the array element in that vertical column will jump to your mouse position. * Implemented bargraph style for Put menu arrays. (See attached) This is basically a multi-slider. Questions: * using bit masks, exactly how many flags can I scrunch into a floatarg? Arrays use one floatarg in a pd file to keep 1) the saveit flag (i.e., whether or not data is saved with the patch), and 2) plot style, to which I've added one more. I'd like to add a flag for jump-on-click, and if possible one for x/y ticks. * can I add a A_DEFFLOAT for plot color for arrays? * for bar graph arrays, should the user be able to specify inner/outer color for the bar, or is inner color with black outline good enough? I think the ability to change both inner and outer color for the bar should be preferred. * for arrays with a small number of elements that aren't jump on click the UX is misleading: with points-style arrays you can only click on a small undifferentiated part of the line. Should I change this so that the hot spot is the entire line? I think, yes! Can´t really see situations where a fraction of the line as hot spot should be preferred... Thanks, Jonathan /Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Changing array curves with mouse interaction
Thanks for the feedback on this 'problem'. I forgot to mention that the question arouse when a student of mine used a table of size 3. The proportional clicking area then got comparable very little if used a bigger table. Did not realise that before. /Björn Eriksson Den 18 apr 2013 18.51, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu skrev: I'm not sure but I believe that's because of rounding to the nearest pixel. I don't believe Tcl/TK does any anti-aliasing, even if the underlying graphical system does. cheers Miller On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:30:55PM -0400, Billy Stiltner wrote: anyone figured out why sometimes ... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Changing array curves with mouse interaction
Hello list, I´ve been searching around a little about hints on how to make a mouse interaction easier in an array, but didn´t find much. Sometimes it is a bit too precise to get a grip on the curve. So my question is, can there be some ways to make this gripping a bit easier? All the best, Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43
That sounds hopeful! Even though I am far from a coder to consider starting to propose some changes. How are the normal procedures when something new is implemented as a GUI preference? Are there someone coming up with some code suggestions and then tests of that - - - or are there a place to put an idea like this, in a list - a wishlist - and then someone sooner or later possible takes on a coding task - or is it here or at pd-developments list a think like this is proposed and discussed? Sorry for a multitude of questions? Speaking of the importance of a language selector, I would put it rather high. By some default mechanisms we speak english here on this list - to maybe 99.5%, and that it also a good thing as it acts as an interface between languages, but also when you are learning totally new aspects (as we can expect some of Pd newcomers to be) then it can be really helpful to have a learning process more near a native language. The best of it would be if the language selector could be instantly flushing to the new language, like that there can be an enhanced understanding when comparing menues and menue selections as you see the language change and can compare between languages that you are more or less familiar with. I hope my idea don´t sound too complicated. Also I wish there is a wishlist. Otherwise it is here above. All the best, Björn Eriksson On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I don't think it would be super complicated to implement. I think the easiest way would be to implement it as a GUI preference, so that would be all Tcl code. Check out pd/tcl/pd_guiprefs.tcl for the API. And you can see load_locale in tcl/pd-gui.tcl .hc On 02/21/2013 02:36 AM, Björn Eriksson wrote: Hello, I am following this thread with interest and step by step starting to understand the implications. Just a curious wonder... is it very complicated to implement a new functionality where a specific .msg file is selected and wanted language choosen, at least temporarily until next active choice? Realize it´s not there... but thinking ahead. /Björn Eriksson On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I'm going to CC the list in case anyone else wants to change this value. Tcl looks at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International\locale in particular. Its a number. This is not Pd-specific, I imagine its used by lots of apps, and perhaps even the system itself. I wouldn't recommend changing it directly, it might mess things up. There should be a way to change the Windows system so that it is set properly in English. If you really just want to force Pd-extended to be in English, the safest route is to delete all the .msg files in \Program Files\pd\po .hc On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:34 AM, rene beekman wrote: Hans, I'm replyting off-list so we don't burden the list with this. Attached are screenshots from the registry entries on two of the machines. As you can see from the menus of regedit itself, the OS is running in English, though I am not sure where that is set in the International settings. Some of the other machines (I'm waiting for their owners to mail the screenshots to me) have localeName set to en_US en location to US, but Pd still opens in Bulgarian. I'll send the other screenshots when I get them. Thanks! Rene On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Run 'regedit' in the Run command thing on the start menu, and look for: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International .hc On 02/18/2013 12:57 AM, rene beekman wrote: Hans, thanks for the reply On the Mac it works for me. Applelocale reports en_BG and Pd properly shows up in English. The windows machines I will be able to check tomorrow evening. How do I find the proper registry keys there? Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:54:35 -0500 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43 To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 511e4c2b.2030...@at.or.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal: defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this: defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International Could you send
Re: [PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43
Hello, I am following this thread with interest and step by step starting to understand the implications. Just a curious wonder... is it very complicated to implement a new functionality where a specific .msg file is selected and wanted language choosen, at least temporarily until next active choice? Realize it´s not there... but thinking ahead. /Björn Eriksson On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I'm going to CC the list in case anyone else wants to change this value. Tcl looks at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International\locale in particular. Its a number. This is not Pd-specific, I imagine its used by lots of apps, and perhaps even the system itself. I wouldn't recommend changing it directly, it might mess things up. There should be a way to change the Windows system so that it is set properly in English. If you really just want to force Pd-extended to be in English, the safest route is to delete all the .msg files in \Program Files\pd\po .hc On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:34 AM, rene beekman wrote: Hans, I'm replyting off-list so we don't burden the list with this. Attached are screenshots from the registry entries on two of the machines. As you can see from the menus of regedit itself, the OS is running in English, though I am not sure where that is set in the International settings. Some of the other machines (I'm waiting for their owners to mail the screenshots to me) have localeName set to en_US en location to US, but Pd still opens in Bulgarian. I'll send the other screenshots when I get them. Thanks! Rene On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Run 'regedit' in the Run command thing on the start menu, and look for: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International .hc On 02/18/2013 12:57 AM, rene beekman wrote: Hans, thanks for the reply On the Mac it works for me. Applelocale reports en_BG and Pd properly shows up in English. The windows machines I will be able to check tomorrow evening. How do I find the proper registry keys there? Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:54:35 -0500 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43 To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 511e4c2b.2030...@at.or.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal: defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this: defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting? .hc On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote: How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for 0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find). I searched the list-archives and the best instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this? I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that non-technical people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to non-technical people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents. a.pngb.pngregistry editor.jpgregistry editor2.jpg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43
You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus. I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms. My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed? /Björn Eriksson On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx! El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit: How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler! El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit: Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal: defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this: defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting? .hc On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote: How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for 0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find). I searched the list-archives and the best instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this? I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that non-technical people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to non-technical people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Òscar Martínez Carmona -- Òscar Martínez Carmona ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43
Thank you for this news!! The youtube was excellent in explaining some things aswell! I should know better but I am not using the command line so much in the win7 machine i am on, should i write LANG=pt c:/program/pd/pd-extended The folder pd is installed at is program/pdbut seems i have some problems with the syntax... should it be backslashes? All the best, /björn On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: You can also do that LANG=pt trick on Windows and Mac OS X, but you have to use the full path to pd/bin/pd instead of just 'pd-extended'. If someone has written in a patch in their own language, the patch will always be in that language. There is currently no way to have patches with translations of the text. Its something I think we should add for tutorials and reference docs. .hc On 02/16/2013 01:37 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from the command line with the preferred language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkSmIAleMc Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch you made in another language it will most likely switch to that language, as far as my experience tells me.. On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com wrote: You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation folder. Then you will have (only) english menus. I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on different platforms. My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force another language to be showed? /Björn Eriksson On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx! El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit: How do I switch it back to English? I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler! El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit: Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. If not, its a bug. Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured in and uses that. Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem to respect that change. You can check the language of your Dock and your global locale by running this in the Terminal: defaults read com.apple.dock loc defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this: defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason. As far as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect the user setting? .hc On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote: How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for 0.43 ? I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to be no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could find). I searched the list-archives and the best instruction I found was to delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me. Is there a more elegant way to do this? I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that non-technical people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines and apparently they all belonged to non-technical people, even though every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use their software in? Just my two cents. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Òscar Martínez Carmona -- Òscar Martínez Carmona ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info
Re: [PD] Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7
After some uninstall of the old 0.42.3 extended and a reinstall of 0.43.4 extended it now works fluently. Nice! Seems also to be more efficient with my old slow computer(s), especially with the graphics. Maybe there is an obvious explanation for that. Now it´s just [knob] that seems to be not included. What library should that be in? /Björn On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com wrote: Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7, === (maybe its in a special library not included now in the new version? Might it be a crappy installation I did? For instance I keep the old 0.42.3 installation, might that interfere with the newer?) I filled in an error report at sourceforge, but thought I should send it here aswell, as I am using the [cursor] in some teaching soon. First I was thinking to let the students install the 0.42.3 just out of a small fear that it might be a bit unstable with some things, but thinking on it twice made me go for the newer because it should be more up to date, and also has some rather amazing functions implemented. /Björn Eriksson Ok, here is the error text that appears: (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name pd while executing pd [concat #hcs_cursor_class_receive motion $x $y \;] (procedure ::hcs_cursor_class::motion line 3) invoked from within ::hcs_cursor_class::motion [winfo pointerx .] [winfo pointery .] (procedure ::hcs_cursor_class::pollmotion line 2) invoked from within ::hcs_cursor_class::pollmotion (uplevel body line 4) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd System: Pd version 0.43.4-extended Win 7 M-Audio Fast Track Ultra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7
Thanks for hint about having knob back! Works now. /Björn On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Reset your preferences to get knob back, its included. There is a new Reset to Defaults button in the Preferences. Or you can load it manually: [import flatgui] I did some work to remove redundant drawing operations, so that reduce the CPU usage for patches that draw a lot. .hc On Feb 10, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Björn Eriksson wrote: After some uninstall of the old 0.42.3 extended and a reinstall of 0.43.4 extended it now works fluently. Nice! Seems also to be more efficient with my old slow computer(s), especially with the graphics. Maybe there is an obvious explanation for that. Now it´s just [knob] that seems to be not included. What library should that be in? /Björn On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com wrote: Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7, === (maybe its in a special library not included now in the new version? Might it be a crappy installation I did? For instance I keep the old 0.42.3 installation, might that interfere with the newer?) I filled in an error report at sourceforge, but thought I should send it here aswell, as I am using the [cursor] in some teaching soon. First I was thinking to let the students install the 0.42.3 just out of a small fear that it might be a bit unstable with some things, but thinking on it twice made me go for the newer because it should be more up to date, and also has some rather amazing functions implemented. /Björn Eriksson Ok, here is the error text that appears: (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name pd while executing pd [concat #hcs_cursor_class_receive motion $x $y \;] (procedure ::hcs_cursor_class::motion line 3) invoked from within ::hcs_cursor_class::motion [winfo pointerx .] [winfo pointery .] (procedure ::hcs_cursor_class::pollmotion line 2) invoked from within ::hcs_cursor_class::pollmotion (uplevel body line 4) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd System: Pd version 0.43.4-extended Win 7 M-Audio Fast Track Ultra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7
Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7, === (maybe its in a special library not included now in the new version? Might it be a crappy installation I did? For instance I keep the old 0.42.3 installation, might that interfere with the newer?) I filled in an error report at sourceforge, but thought I should send it here aswell, as I am using the [cursor] in some teaching soon. First I was thinking to let the students install the 0.42.3 just out of a small fear that it might be a bit unstable with some things, but thinking on it twice made me go for the newer because it should be more up to date, and also has some rather amazing functions implemented. /Björn Eriksson Ok, here is the error text that appears: (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name pd while executing pd [concat #hcs_cursor_class_receive motion $x $y \;] (procedure ::hcs_cursor_class::motion line 3) invoked from within ::hcs_cursor_class::motion [winfo pointerx .] [winfo pointery .] (procedure ::hcs_cursor_class::pollmotion line 2) invoked from within ::hcs_cursor_class::pollmotion (uplevel body line 4) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmds_from_pd System: Pd version 0.43.4-extended Win 7 M-Audio Fast Track Ultra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Browse/Search plugin update
I am a bit curios to try it. Is it possible someone can give some hints on how to install the plugin? And is it possible to run on 0.42.5 ? /Björn On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Ryan Smith bigrye...@gmail.com wrote: This was the first gui plugin I installed since trying out the beta. Works great for me on the latest xubuntu. On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Added a little documentation on puredata.info: https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/helpbrowser2.0/ -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!
If you´re having an extremely boring saturday evening/night or sunday morning you can watch this video directly from Fraunhofer institute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdRdTQVBxi4blend=5lr=1ob=5 /Björn On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.comwrote: It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original message with: Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that? Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a list :) I agree! By the way, that was my first post to the list, the whole thread has been interesting thought! On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.comwrote: On 23/11/12 11:21, Björn Eriksson wrote: I think one of the reason one might have to be able to play mp3´s or ogg´s from inside a pd-patch can be that you´re working with some interactivity, thematic project for instance where one is sniffing the web for sounds. I regard mp3´s as usual as for instance jpg´s are on the web, speaking of some image analogy of compressed formats. I don´t like the licencing of mp3 though and would prefer ogg to be the main standard. Sometimes there aren´t time enough to do conversions on the fly to uncompressed formats before importing files onto pd. I can with other words imaging a number of situations which could call for a a playability of mp3 and oggs. Obviously, there are cases where mp3 can be an option, but OP mentioned exporting from logic. Of course withot further background it's hard to tell, and there are many cases. Soundwise we all know wave and aiff sounds better, but I am a bit surprised this seems to be a so complicated and sensitive issue about having pd play a compressed sound file with some ease. Maybe this has been discussed over the years over and over,so forgive me if this already stated somewhere about these things. It's not *that* coplicated really, and many options have been suggested, guess the 'sensitive' thing is that OP ended his original message with: Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that? Which is not probably not the best way to find concrete advice on a list :) Lorenzo. /Björn Eriksson On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.**comlorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/11/12 19:04, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote: [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for! I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when that layer II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic... Why should you export to mp* from logic? That sounds rather insane unless you *need* mp* mp* are lossy compressed, and unless you have a precise 'aesthetic' reason to having mpeg-degraded audio quality simply export to a lossless format. That said there are probably thousands of converters out there from-to mp* to anything, google is your friend there. Lorenzo. Thank you both! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:56 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com mailto:cgclep...@gmail.com wrote: A MPEG-1 LAyer II file is MP2 not MP3. You will need to find a player/converter for that. Maybe VLC? There are multiple ways to play .wav files with Pd - check the example patches included with it. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.com mailto:xamp...@gmail.com mailto:xamp...@gmail.com mailto:xamp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List! I'm trying to play an mp3 layerII file with [mp3play~] ans it does only support layer III files. While I'm looking for the appropiate converter (fail at that by now) I was wondering if there was another external able to play layer II files (the most common type, not?). Anyways I'll be happy too if I can play an not compressed audio file like an .aiff or .wav but in stereo? how the f*ck I do that? Thanx! -- Òscar Martínez Carmona __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Òscar Martínez Carmona
Re: [PD] mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!
Hello, chiming in on the mp3-file playing topic aswell... I encountered exactly the same problem trying to play a mp3 file a while ago with the object [mp3play~], receiving this error text: == error: : no such object Layer II not supported! EOF: bang == which is maybe not so surprising as we all have heard that mp3 should be the layer III to be played. But how is it possible to change an mp3 that has layer II format into a layer III format? Seems most mp3´s are in the layer II standard. My try was with this mp3-file (found on UBU.com) http://ubumexico.centro.org.mx/sound/broodthaers_marcel/Broodthaers-Marcel_Interview-With-A-Cat.mp3 I am attaching the help-patch for [mp3play~], which I found in IEMLIB folder. If there only where ogg vorbis files out there it would be easy to just use [oggread~] which seems to work fine. I am really curious about the layer II / III mystery. Also I have heard that layer III are the mp3 standard, and layer II not. Just don´t understand the error I am getting.(I am on a win xp machine, but the same happens also on a win 7 machine) All the best, Björn Eriksson On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.comwrote: then you probably should report a bug with f*cking logic. Should I? I mean, the external might work fine with layer III files (in reality mp3 stands for mpeg2 layer 3), the thing is that all the converters I've used are on layer II, so I can't use it! Anyways, I've solved it with [readsf~] playing an .aif file, but the problem I got now it's related with dinamically changing the file I need to open. I receive the filename throught OSC and it goes to a symbol and it shows me the communication went nice, but apparently it doesn't affect the open message with the dollar sign, why?? [unpack f f s] llI [amnotlayertri.aif} //this is supposed to represent a symbol l [ open ../samples/$ ( l [readsf~ 2] On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:00 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 11/20/2012 07:04 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote: [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for! I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when that layer II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic... then you probably should report a bug with f*cking logic. fgmasdr IOhannes __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Òscar Martínez Carmona ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list mp3play~-help.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mp3 (layerII) or .wav/.aif stereo player!
Well, I tried to download and get into my pd install last winter - but I couldn´t find out how to get it onto these old win machines. Maybe there is something obvious I am doing wrong, or maybe it´s already included in the latest pd extended. Or maybe just not for win machines. Someone who knows? The object seems super nice though. Can really be helpful in a lot of situations. http://aug.ment.org/readanysf/index.php /Björn On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Have you guys tried with [readanysf~] ? Pierre. 2012/11/21 Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com Hello, chiming in on the mp3-file playing topic aswell... I encountered exactly the same problem trying to play a mp3 file a while ago with the object [mp3play~], receiving this error text: == error: : no such object Layer II not supported! EOF: bang == which is maybe not so surprising as we all have heard that mp3 should be the layer III to be played. But how is it possible to change an mp3 that has layer II format into a layer III format? Seems most mp3´s are in the layer II standard. My try was with this mp3-file (found on UBU.com) http://ubumexico.centro.org.mx/sound/broodthaers_marcel/Broodthaers-Marcel_Interview-With-A-Cat.mp3 I am attaching the help-patch for [mp3play~], which I found in IEMLIB folder. If there only where ogg vorbis files out there it would be easy to just use [oggread~] which seems to work fine. I am really curious about the layer II / III mystery. Also I have heard that layer III are the mp3 standard, and layer II not. Just don´t understand the error I am getting.(I am on a win xp machine, but the same happens also on a win 7 machine) All the best, Björn Eriksson On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona xamp...@gmail.com wrote: then you probably should report a bug with f*cking logic. Should I? I mean, the external might work fine with layer III files (in reality mp3 stands for mpeg2 layer 3), the thing is that all the converters I've used are on layer II, so I can't use it! Anyways, I've solved it with [readsf~] playing an .aif file, but the problem I got now it's related with dinamically changing the file I need to open. I receive the filename throught OSC and it goes to a symbol and it shows me the communication went nice, but apparently it doesn't affect the open message with the dollar sign, why?? [unpack f f s] llI [amnotlayertri.aif} //this is supposed to represent a symbol l [ open ../samples/$ ( l [readsf~ 2] On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:00 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 11/20/2012 07:04 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona wrote: [readsf~] seems to be what I was looking for! I'm not sure about mp3 layers and names , but when that layer II file is what I get with an mp3 bounce with Logic... then you probably should report a bug with f*cking logic. fgmasdr IOhannes __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Òscar Martínez Carmona ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Granular synthesis externals
Thanks for the granular references! Having a good time with both +bubbler~ and particlechamber. Soon will take a look upon disis_munger, but as I am not so good in tweakings in Pd I could maybe need a hint or two... I found these two links below... My first and main question is why do I need flext? Is it to make an external out of disis_munger code (written in some other language?). Sorry for my obvious question but I just wanted to see if there is some easy explanations of this before to search myself (even though I am fully aware this is the best way to learn of course) Here´s the links anyway http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/disis_munger~_latest.zip http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/flext/ All the best, Björn Eriksson On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: There is also the classic Particlechamber: http://macumbista.net/?page_id=514 .hc On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:42 AM, William Brent wrote: Also see +bubbler~, a port of Tom Erbe's soundhack plugin. http://www.soundhack.com/freeware/ On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: see disis_munger. It requires flext HTH On Nov 8, 2012 7:02 PM, oscar pablo di liscia odilis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list: I would like to know if there are pd externals (not abstractions) for granular synthesis. Any data will be most appreciated. Best -- Oscar Pablo Di Liscia ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- William Brent www.williambrent.com “Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century www.conflations.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] IBM PureData
yeah.,.. that really sucks--- i guess they are getting away with PureData - instead of Pure Data to me it makes some difference - - and apart from that and more important - the IBM program will never be as great as Pure Data - for sure! /björn On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sad. They will ruin the good name of Pure Data. umm... let's hope there's no looming copyright issues over the name. IBM is not *famously* litigious, but they are a computer/software company. Watch out for lawyers On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/puredata/ this new IBM Software will make searching the web for pure data even harder. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
Great! Highly appreciated with the MIDI page on puredata.info ! It's exactly these info needed for different Pd beginners approaches. Seems MIDI are here to stay at least for some more decades! :-) /Björn Eriksson Den 30 okt 2012 18.14, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com skrev: As this is probably a question that will keep coming up, I decided to wrap up some of the answers in one of the puredata.info FAQ pages: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/midiinput Please double check this and make any changes you see fit. I know I've said this before, but we should always strive to get some of the great info here off list and onto the FAQ / PD website. On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:05 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: From: Björn Eriksson miulew@gmail.c... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
Thanks, looks promising. I will test them both! http://www.maplemidi.com/Maple_driver.html http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html I used MIDI yoke long time ago but it seems that it is not updated any more for newer windows os. The MIDI router question is for recommendations for students of mine. I run also Ubuntu sometimes but never or very seldom OSX. Maybe it could be something to have on Pd web site with some recommendations about this as I guess it is something that many new users wants to start exploring - to use Pd as a MIDI engine for other softwares!? So to extend a little what is the best MIDI routers (in general) for -Linux -OS X ? All the best, Björn On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Windows 7 use midi maple I think or loopbe Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com wrote: This might be very obvious, but has someone a good open source suggestion for routing MIDI between Pd and other applications on a windows machine? Is JACK the alternative to go for? I bet there is a lot of hits if I google it, but I prefer to raise this question here... Happy for any hints! /Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Audio glitches with windows xp
Hello, maybe it was the delay (msec) in the Audio settings (under Media) that was set too low? If set too low this can happen. /Björn Eriksson On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Yesterday I was giving an introductory course on Pd and a couple of students who had ACER laptops running windows xp had really audible glitches when playing only sinewaves. Is there something to be installed to the computer to avoid this? Is it supposed to be a know problem? Thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Audio glitches with windows xp
Yes, I think default is 20 msec, they can anyway change to something 50-100msec just to see if the glitches goes away. If the laptop are slow it might help. I´d say give it a try first... then continue with other things. All the best, Björn On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com wrote: They used the default settings, which should be 20, right? I mean, they didn't change anything, it was their first encounter with Pd. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, maybe it was the delay (msec) in the Audio settings (under Media) that was set too low? If set too low this can happen. /Björn Eriksson On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Yesterday I was giving an introductory course on Pd and a couple of students who had ACER laptops running windows xp had really audible glitches when playing only sinewaves. Is there something to be installed to the computer to avoid this? Is it supposed to be a know problem? Thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
This might be very obvious, but has someone a good open source suggestion for routing MIDI between Pd and other applications on a windows machine? Is JACK the alternative to go for? I bet there is a lot of hits if I google it, but I prefer to raise this question here... Happy for any hints! /Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Translating Puckette Lectures into Spanish
Hello, I find this translation initiative excellent! I am happy to help on a swedish translation, but i am pretty sure I will not be able to work on it until after mid november. All the best, Björn Eriksson On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Epic Jefferson jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.comwrote: I might be able to help. Hablamos pronto. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 2:39 PM, J Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed! Not all details are solved yet, but we can work in parallel or document the process for replication. J On Oct 7, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi, I assume you'll create some subtitles file formats or something, right? If so, I'd like to help and to the same work on the portuguese version after that. We can post them on youtube as well cheers We would like to publish them on december, so the translation work should be done in mid-novemeber. join? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- www.epicjefferson.com www.avmachinists.org Puerto Rico based Art Collective/ Non-Profit Org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?
Thanks Patrice and Iohannes for the replies on this! Great pointers and clues!! I didn´t know about blind date/peer data projects before! Very interesting! I get the image of weaving when thinking of this. I like the concept of patching together. Like in music/sound improvisation I guess it becomes rather important to listen and wait the steps of the co-players/co-patchers - and follow and do contrasting things... etcetera... Iohannes, let us know at the list how things proceed around this! /// Another related idea/concept I have been thinking on is weaving - sortof matrix - like you have a dynamic matrix where each patcher can work in different areas of the matrix, that is in some defined way constituted so changes in one part of the matrix is affecting other parts. . Like a weaving - if you put in new threads things change in the overall structure... and if you are tearing in some parts - stretching etcetera - things change in the overall perspective. (sorry to disturb the thread with this new perspective - but just couldn´t help it as the idea was triggered to be released when thinking on the other things in this thread) All the best, Björn Eriksson On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-19 18:12, Björn Eriksson wrote: Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly. have you looked at Pd-graz' blind date[1]? originally we used a multi-keyboard/multi-mouse setup, but eventually made a software-based client/server solution originally called multipd and later renamed to peer data. it was presented at the pd~con in montreal (Patching Music Together:collaborative live coding in PureData[2]). i hope to give a workshop on that in november in mexico city. fgmasdr IOhannes [1] http://pd-graz.mur.at/blind-date [2] http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/dissertation/literature/bibliography/zmoelnig2007patching/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAx8tIACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvR7uwCfVAkvChuHhliiBo3PDQ2DHq12 BNMAoPfUxiGH5VoQWy/+3U2LKEkm2VDH =PWnP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Multiple Pd patchers on one computer?
Hello, earlier today a thought just popped up... and maybe it´s already done, and maybe it´s not even something that relates to Pd mainly. My idea is this: One computer, several keyboards and mouses connected to this same one computer, shares a Pd window, patching together. Could be something that could be interesting to do as live performance/collaboration... maybe. Just wanted to share this idea - and see if it´s already been done something like this.. Guess the technical side of it is more to get several keyboards/mouses to run in parallell with unique ids. Probably there exists a really easy solution to this. I am not directly planning to do this, but I am curious anyway, if someone can elaborate on this idea then I am happy to listen..!? (I know there are some web-interfaced Pd projects (Purée Data?) but this idea is more simple, just to use one computer with several users/patchers.) All the best, Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loading wave file and playing based on samples in wav file
Den 24 jul 2012 13.55, Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com skrev: Hello, yes is very possible with Pd. Check the built-in help patches on the subject of tables and sound files. On midi control it should not be too complicated either... Maybe you want a step by step incrementation with a button preferred over a fader (128 steps 'only'), to get the sample accuracy - or maybe a combination of fader and button up/down with an indication of selected sample start. Just some ideas! /Björn Eriksson Den 24 jul 2012 13.15, Rick T ratull...@gmail.com skrev: Greetings All I'm trying to load two 1 second mono wave files on a left and a right channel... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] all distorsions avaliable
Maybe a bit obvious, but i consider clip~ as a good object for distortion. /Björn Eriksson On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM, umberto torrez umberto.tor...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, im doing a research of all the distorsion objects avaliable for pd. I found the following objects: quatize , swap, dist, disto, foldover , exciter and zhzxh. Am i missing something? Do you know if there are any other objects in pd for distorsion? thanks in advance Umberto ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] origins of voice.wav?
I´ve been asking myself this question many times... Pd without it would not be the same. I guess Miller Puckette should have some clues! ... and btw - are the voice.wav in Max/MSP aswell? /Björn Eriksson On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: Seriously!! Hahahaha. Every time I use it in a class we all laugh with the irony. Maybe I should record a DISCONTINUOUS, LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS counter-sample. —t3db0t On May 9, 2012, at 9:18 AM, batinste wrote: I personnally take it as a joke, especially when it's looped and playing over and over and over : it's NOT soft and relaxing. Le 09/05/2012 13:38, Johanna Nowak a écrit : Dear List, perhaps this has been asked before, but what is the story behind continuous soft and relaxing (voice.wav)? best, Jo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino patch help
Hello, in fact you can put attachments here on the list. I am sorry but I am not really helpful on this matter, as I am myself also trying to get some piezo-triggerings onto Pd through Arduino and are still learning around this. I wouldn´t mind take a look at the patch - but as said before - I am not sure I could be to so much help. All the best, Björn Eriksson On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Drake Schutt drak...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a fairly simple patch that I got help from someone on the list in building. It just takes midi data from 16 drum pads and routes the bangs to different output pins. The pins then trigger a seperate solenoids with the arduino board. These solenoids hit actual drums. I thought the pd patch was working last week and the [digital 0 0] message box was displaying different numbers when different drum pads were triggered. I then updated the firmata library because I thought I should. The [digital 0 0] box then stopped displaying numbers according to midi input data. Would someone mind looking at my patch and seeing if something is wrong? I don't know a whole lot about pd. I can send it off list, I doubt there's attachments here. Thanks, Drake ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] deep note in Pd
Nice one! I am fascinated by the writing in the scope window! Guess there is a hidden alfabet inside scope ;) (really can´t figure this out, so please welcome to share some on this!) Thanks for sharing the patch! /Björn Eriksson On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, my default screen-video-capture tool doesn't capture sound, so I just quickly recorded to [writesf~] at whatever level sounded good in my earphones and put it together with the webm. The patch is attached. -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [PD] deep note in Pd LOL the volume is a bit low. Am 02.05.2012 um 04:49 schrieb Jonathan Wilkes: Batuhan Bozkurt wrote a great blog entry about recreating the THX Deep Note with Supercollider awhile back. So I tried it in Pd. Then I lost the patch. Then I tried recreating it from memory, and upped the ante with some visuals :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESi7ub8AVPs (Unfortunately the a and v don't sync up so well, but you can get the general idea) -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] connecting Pd to LEDs
Found this when as suggested doing some googling on Interface-Z - on this page some test pd patches and more... http://www.interface-z.com/produits/act054_8_trans-puiss.htm and a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAjILa4MOu8 /Björn Eriksson On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Jean-Marie Adrien j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net wrote: hi if you're in a hurry, google interface-z jmadrien Le 26 mars 2012 à 20:02, Jim Hickcox a écrit : Hey there. I am working on an architectural installation with a guy and part of the goal is to control some dim lighting from Pd. Does anyone have any experience with the steps for taking the midi output and making that control some LEDs? Any recommended workflows? I was thinking about trying to build something with an arduino, but maybe there's something more time-efficient, since I only sort of know what I am doing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -Jim ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cool ways to use pd in keyboard rig
Hello, even if some of the things mentioned in this text might be some years old this text by Hans-Christoph Steiner could give you some ideas: http://at.or.at/hans/writing/BuildingYourOwnInstrumentWithPd/BuildingYourOwnInstrumentWithPd.pdf also this video presenting Onyx Ashanti performance interface could be inspirational: http://vimeo.com/23239957 /Björn Eriksson On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.comwrote: Hey Guys Can we talk concept for a bit? I'm building a performance rig with two keyboard synths, kaossilator, feedback mixer and a home-made instrument (a stripped down hard-drive with a guitar lead soldered to the motor, nice little, imprecise, instrument). I'm looking at using pure data on a laptop with my m-audio axiom controller with the rest of the rig. Basically I'm looking for something cool, experimental but not too out-there to do in a pd patch to compliment this synth-heavy setup. Not sticking to any particular style, either, just seeing what I come up with. Basically, feel free to throw ideas at me Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] translation activity
Hello Hans-Christoph! Sorry for not getting back to you before now... 1st: thanks for explaining! Now it´s clear about what´s the translation activities are about! 2nd: I think what might be possible is to start with a transifex translation work - and from there see how things go 3rd: Yeah... Floss manuals would be great to translate. I think all these things will be a matter of available time. I will start with the transifex soon I hope! I might give you a question or two if there is some things around the transifex that i dont get. All the best, Björn 2012/1/18 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Hey Björn, Right now, I'm just talking about translating the interface of Pd itself. It would be great to also translate the learning materials and even help patches too, that's a much bigger question. For translating Pd's interface, just create an account in Transifex and edit the translation file, or create a new one if your language isn't there. That's pretty straightforward, you'll see a list of all the English words and phrases used in the interface, and next to it you write the translation: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/ For documentation, I don't know much about tools for helping translate prose, but I do know that the FLOSS Manuals site is well setup to host translations. So perhaps a good place to start would be to make a translation of the Pure Data manual there. And of course, if you find things you should update in the English version, please go ahead and update them as you see fit: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/ As for the help patches, that's a harder question right now because we don't have a way to host help patches of multiple languages. It would be a matter of replacing all the help patches included in Pd-extended with your translated ones. I suppose that could be scripted so it wouldn't be hard to do. Ideally, someone will add localization support to pd patches, then each help patch could contain multiple languages. .hc On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Björn Eriksson wrote: Hello, sending this offlist as I am so bad updated on the status of the translation works in general for Pd. As I am regulary holding Pure Data courses here in Sweden, then I have more than twice been thinking it would be good to start some translation works for Swedish... but at same time I am not interested to start something that seems too complicated and troublesome. So I have some basic questions you might answer... 1. How is the translation implemented. 2. Is it mainly the help pd files that the translation are for 3. Will it be possible to invite other contributors for the translations (into swedish) 4. Will there be some responsibility to announce and update indifferent web resources. in other words:... maybe it´s already explained and I can read more somewhere - or maybe you can just hit me a little? or just answer the questions? or i post this to the pd list and someone there can demystify this for me. Surely I could look around and search for some of these answers myself, but just in case it´s easily answered - I am eager to listen. All the best, Björn On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: There seems to be a flurry of translation activity right now, with updates to Hungarian, French, Italian, and German and new languages added: es_ES, es_MX, ca, ko, and lv. If you are the speaker of one of these languages, check out the updates and make comments, suggestions, improvements, etc. https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/ For now, the transifex project is wide open to any contributor. We can change that to team-based permissions if anyone wants. Even better, if someone could take over the admin of the transifex project and leave me to work on other Pd things :-D .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Computer Music with Pd + Tutorial
Thanks Alexandre for posting this! Just spent a 20 minute or so yet scanning around... but looks very promising! I like the phase vocoder finishing examples just as one example! Not much yet of specific feedback, maybe comes when I looked through more. All the best, Björn On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.comwrote: Hey folks, I've taught a few workshops, like Spectral Analysis and Manipulation with Pd in the previous two Conventions. Maybe some of you were there... I've been promising I'd upload a revised version anytime, here it is, my first unofficial pre-release in english: http://sites.google.com/site/porres/ComputerMusicPd.zip I also have a Pd tutorial I did in portuguese that I've translated to english and told this list about it before, there's an update to that: http://sites.google.com/site/porres/Tut-Eng.zip but this is secondary. Well, about these examples, they were design to be highly accessible to novice computer musicians and enthusiasts with no background in computer science and/or engineering. But I do manage to convey rather advanced information and such about a few cool things. I particularly like the section about convolutions/vocoder and phase vocoder. I'd be happy to hear some feedback from you thanks Alex ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fwd: no pd?? WTF ????
Hello, interesting thread indeed... 2012/1/4 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Le 2012-01-03 à 21:47:00, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Here is btw another call about a Pd workshop BEK held back in 2005. http://www.bek.no/projects/35-**visiblesoundaudibleimage?**locale=enhttp://www.bek.no/projects/35-visiblesoundaudibleimage?locale=enbut that was 7 years ago... So, why don't you give more recent examples, to show some kind of continuity ? I know that in seven years, there can be a lot of change of personnel (and thus mentality) in an art centre... I mean, from my own personal experience (5200 km away from BEK). The reason I put this was just because I wanted to see if they had anything about Pure Data at all in BEK so I put Pure Data in the search window on the main page at bek.no and that was one of few entry that showed up in the search result. I didn´t spend much time on that - antd didnt compare with other things thay might have done with open source resources. Also agrees and knows institutions and arts center changes with the staff involved. Found this about the equipment/softwares in some studio of theirs - and really they don´t seem to have Pd or other open source resources there: http://bek.no/pages/fascilities?locale=en Here is what they state under sound and other: *Sound* Ableton Live Amadeus Cubase Logic Pro Max4Live Soundbooth Wave Editor Wavelab *Other* Photoshop CS5 Illustrator CS5 Indesign CS5 Compressor iShowU HD Pro Max Msp Jitter Also, preferably, something with more hours... that's 25 hours, probably minus food time, let's say 20 hours. That's better than most workshops, but there have been significantly longer ones. In a way it would be cool to just send back this e-mail exchanges to the call-makers? - so they see how stupid this call is - and anti-productive. Is it stupid or is it just a generous rebate plan from two software companies ? Just an honest question, no insinuations. Well, I think so called marketing from software companies could maybe be that aggresive (that they can have some specific deals with people/institutions receiving generous discounts)... I don´t know about how the discussion goes. It would be an interesting topic to lift up. Are there huge rebate plans for instituions / schools / - and how are (generally) the conditions to receive these? Here in Sweden I know that Steinberg has rather hefty rebates of up to 50% for students and academic institutions, but they don´t state any exclusive conditions for the academic institutions. I think Digidesign (Avid) has about the same deals. Institutions associations that are not academic might be another thing with... (just raising perspectives, know nothing about this really) All the best, Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: no pd?? WTF ????
Yes, agrees Julien, it´s a position against free softwares. Probably a political position. (unconcious or not) anyway - (and I know it was 7 years ago) copypaste from BEK site what Derek and Sara brought up at BEK back in 2005 at the Pd workshop: *** Workshop details: Day one 1) Introduction: Why PD Why Free + Open Source Software? Our decision to use Pure Data has been motivated by several factors. First and foremost is the need for a modular environment where audio and video processing is possible without the intrusion of negative elements such as a predetermined Graphical User Environment, cross-platform issues and restrictive licenses. We will discuss these issues, and why it is more important than ever that artists take Free + Open Source Software seriously as tools for creative expression. ** end copypaste Maybe these issues are even more than ever ever important now 7 years later? Maybe someone from BEK should speak up and clearify a little around their politics on software uses? Maybe it´s not here in this thread the revolution starts but I think it is always necessary to go to the source of the problem and really try to find out what is going on. Not a very very big deal maybe, but clearly this keeps us many on the Pd list a bit emotional about the blogpost call they did put up. (and obviously some people already have had some exchanges with the call makers in Milan already, so maybe that is already researched well enough). It´s not about the conflictual situation, it is more about the understanding, as I see it. If they prefer at BEK or other institutions to NOT work with open softwares, then it is really well to just know that. As I see it. I don´t know any sociologists working on these issues. Google gives me the name of Yewin Lin as someone in this field. Here is a pdf adressing some of the issues http://www.ylin.org/sociology_FLOSS.pdf , and here is the website of her: http://www.ylin.org/ Surely this must be a rather big field - also with a lot of different perspectives on it - so would be cool if there is some more pointers someone has about these things. All the best, /Björn Eriksson On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:56 PM, APO33 i...@apo33.org wrote: The important point here, it's that it doesn't cost anything to put pd or supercollider on your mac or pc. you download it, install it and use it! here we go. so why those places (institutions, festival...etc), people... decided to refuse art project that use free software (free and libre) or create facilities, studios...space for artists, musicians, students...etc that don't include those softwares? (specially in the case of BEK, there are 100% aware of the existence of those software as piksel bek was one entity before). it sound like a position against free software (more or less clear depend the people/institutions...). Obviously there is different vision of the world, I dunno about revolution (not sure about that one either as sevy said) but it looks like that there is people out there that are pissed off of the free software (specially the freshly floss art community - around 5 to 8 years more or less) community excluding the artists and programmers from the proprietary software community (is there such community?) from their institutions(?), festivals, conferences...etc. It could looks like a vendetta (unconscious?) related to some frustration of not being part of the BUZZ ;-) (trying to make a bigger one by refusing free software)... Interesting threat indeed, many of you had heard already some max/msp users complaining of not being able to come and present their things in some of the festival/symposium/gig/conference...etc out there that promote free software...(strongly recommended?) Do you know any sociologist working on some of those issues? sound like a very rich subject!! cheers Julien Hello, interesting thread indeed... 2012/1/4 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Le 2012-01-03 à 21:47:00, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : Here is btw another call about a Pd workshop BEK held back in 2005. http://www.bek.no/projects/35-**visiblesoundaudibleimage?**locale=en http://www.bek.no/projects/35-visiblesoundaudibleimage?locale=enbut that was 7 years ago... So, why don't you give more recent examples, to show some kind of continuity ? I know that in seven years, there can be a lot of change of personnel (and thus mentality) in an art centre... I mean, from my own personal experience (5200 km away from BEK). The reason I put this was just because I wanted to see if they had anything about Pure Data at all in BEK so I put Pure Data in the search window on the main page at bek.no and that was one of few entry that showed up in the search result. I didn´t spend much time on that - antd didnt compare with other things thay might have done with open source resources. Also agrees and knows institutions and arts center changes with the staff involved
Re: [PD] puredata.org not available
Here from Sweden http://www.puredata.info accesible now! Maybe a glitch in the networks? /Björn Eriksson On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Le 2012-01-03 à 16:58:00, rolf meesters a écrit : since yesterday i'm not able to reach the Pd website it's 'connecting' forever without any visibility is it only me or is it somehow down? It's down, but the webserver is still ostensibly up, because http://lists.puredata.info points to the same computer and the same port, and that site is working. So I'm guessing that puredata.info's database server is down, which would explain things because lists.puredata.info does not use that database. Apart from that, it could be a problem in one config file of the webserver or in the webapp, but I think that those are less likely, because I doubt Johannes would have left it that way. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ????
Had to visit the link to see what it was all about... it´s easy to just have some fast opinion on things... and the first impression I had was that this was something BEK (in Norway) arranges, but it´s a call made on their blog from Milan/Rome for something happening in Italy. http://usoproject.blogspot.com/ . But I agree totally that it´s absurd about that call on the Max / Pd choice. And thoughtless of BEK to post it like that. Here is btw another call about a Pd workshop BEK held back in 2005. http://www.bek.no/projects/35-visiblesoundaudibleimage?locale=en but that was 7 years ago... But might be something inter-institutional too between BEK and Pixsel - - who knows? In a way it would be cool to just send back this e-mail exchanges to the call-makers? - so they see how stupid this call is - and anti-productive. All the best, Björn Eriksson On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:15 PM, APO33 i...@apo33.org wrote: woow I can't believe this!! it is a clear message against piksel (used to be part of BEK) free software, specifically against some of the most creative ones!!! totally absurd, call for boycott!! or use pd~ object in max as miller said :-D cheers julien in my opinion conciously or unconciously, one of the most counterrevolutionary call4 ive seen in the last times salut x! 2012/1/3 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: Ugly. I'd suggest using Max and the pd~ object :) Miller On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 06:29:42PM +, servando barreiro wrote: I just readed this : The electronic processing must be developed and implemented using Max/MSP or Kyma. (we will not accept patches developed in Pure Data or SuperCollider). here: http://www.bek.no/posts/243-call-for-works-sonic-screens-2012?locale=en bad thing... S ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- APO33 space of research and experimentation http://www.apo33.org i...@apo33.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds
it´s very inspiring to listen to all the small patches in this thread. another small patch (but big compared to others) of 10 object comes here.. this one is not very dramatic, maybe one of it´s things is that it produces a rather fat stereo image with some attacks with each tone in the sequence. /björn eriksson On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, dani ambulat...@gmail.com wrote: hi list, sorry but i couldnt resist to share this! 2 objects + 1 comment win? :O) hugs! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list miulew_10objects_bass-sequence.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds
here´s a remix of the 6 object hardoff one, now a 7 object one with somewhat other sound texture. for a while it´s making a waltz tempo until it looses it´s sense of waltzing. /björn On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:46 AM, hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.comwrote: i think i'm gonna keep making these all day. :D here's a neat little one with 6 objects ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds
sorry last empty mail before this... here´s a remix of the 6 object hardoff one, now a 7 object one with somewhat other sound texture. for a while it´s making a waltz tempo until it looses it´s sense of waltzing. /björn On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:46 AM, hardoff goes bananas hard@gmail.comwrote: i think i'm gonna keep making these all day. :D here's a neat little one with 6 objects ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list hardoff-7objects_miulew_remix.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] very compressed chip sounds
Hello, nice - see what you mean! Here is a new try with cos~ instead of sin~ and then some other method of generating a sequence. It was repeating itself very often until i was putting the snapshot~ outlet back to the osc~ phase reset. Still 9 objects though... :) /Björn On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote: wops. this was meant for the list... On 08/10/2011 22:21, Björn Eriksson wrote: Here attached a try to use less objects... ended up with 9 objects. Nice! But... it's not vanilla (I think) due to the [sin~] :-) So.. I wasn't thinking of using (pseudo)randomness (noise)... Otherwise one could do something like the attached.. (7 objects including [dac~]) Lorenzo /Björn Eriksson On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it mailto:lsut...@libero.it wrote: Hey Chris, Thanks for this really interesting! On 07/10/2011 14:25, Chris McCormick wrote: http://countercomplex.__blogs**pot.com/2011/10/__algorithmic-** symphonies-from-__one-line-of.**htmlhttp://blogspot.com/2011/10/__algorithmic-symphonies-from-__one-line-of.html http://countercomplex.**blogspot.com/2011/10/** algorithmic-symphonies-from-**one-line-of.htmlhttp://countercomplex.blogspot.com/2011/10/algorithmic-symphonies-from-one-line-of.html Surely we can do stuff like this in Pd? Smallest Pd patch that makes an interesting tune? Depending on your definition of 'interesting' I made these two. I guess they can be considered rather minimal (under 16 objects per patch excluding comments and including [dac~]...) The principle is basically the same in both patches. Lorenzo. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx __**___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/__**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/__listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list short_noice_sequence_alt3.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PuréeData
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: Thanks—I'll look into it! I developed on Chrome so if you want to try that, it works better :) —t3db0t On Oct 5, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: Hey Ted, Yip, same here on Firefox/Puredyne - nowt happening. 2011/10/5 Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com Hey, Love the idea of this, but can't get it to work, using firefox and chrome on ubuntu. Not sure if this is any use to you. Let me know Cheers Andrew -- From: li...@liminastudio.com Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:00:08 -0400 To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] PuréeData Hi all, Earlier this year I got a Turbulence commission for a project called PuréeData, which is an instance of PureData on a server with a web-browser interface and an mp3 stream to hear the audio. In essence it's a single shared patch accessible by the whole internets! http://turbulence.org/works/PureeData It's a work in progress, and there are some pretty obvious bugs right now, but it does actually work! I just hope my server doesn't die now that it's been announced… It uses the Pyata library by Jeraman to do the dynamic patching and a web.py server to host the site and manage the state. It's pretty janky in a lot of technical ways, and so there are some important features that don't exist yet (like deleting objects!!). I had wanted to try libpd as the backend but I guess it would still work the same way, i.e. with FUDI messages? Anyway, check it out :D All the codez is on github: https://github.com/virgildisgr4ce/PureeData There's an issue tracker so by all means submit issues and feature requests, and if you are so inclined, clone the repo and set up a server yourself! And of course, if you want to help improve PuréeData, I would love you forever!! ≤3 *0x73DB07* Turbulence Commission: PuréeData by Ted Hayes http://turbulence.org/works/PureeData [Optimized for Google Chrome] PuréeData is a web-browser interface for a single shared sound environment that allows live, collaborative patching for anyone, anywhere. Visitors interact with a shared PureData audio synthesis patch and listen to the results as an MP3 stream, with no software to install or set up. The project is open-source, and all are encouraged to modify, improve and set up their own PuréeData servers. PuréeData is a 2011 commission of New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc. for its Turbulence website. It was made possible with funding from the Jerome Foundation. BIOGRAPHIES Ted Hayes is a poet-inventor: conceiving objects and experiences that explore the sublime and the enigmatic through recombination and deconstruction. He is a proponent of what he has dubbed Research Art, or art-as-science experiment, and actively investigates the themes, technologies and ramifications of autonomy, emergence, semiotics, pattern recognition, and neural networks. Ted's works range from a group of language-inventing robots to a mythological city-founding ritual for soprano and string quartet, is a graduate of NYU's Interactive Telecommunications Program. His operating principle is, in a word, poetry: to pique with enigma and confound with beauty. Like us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nrpa.org http://facebook.com/turbulence.org Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/turbulenceorg Please support the Turbulence Commissions Program. See http://turbulence.org for details. --- For removal from the http://www.turbulence.org mail list, click here: http://www.greenspun.com/spam/remove-2.tcl?domain=Turbulenceemail=daleth%40epiphanus%2enet --- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PuréeData
i am able to connect objects already put there, and connekt things to the right send - and it is received on the stream. i can delete connections, but for me i can´t add objects. interesting and fun approach! /björn eriksson On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: Hi all, Earlier this year I got a Turbulence commission for a project called PuréeData, which is an instance of PureData on a server with a web-browser interface and an mp3 stream to hear the audio. In essence it's a single shared patch accessible by the whole internets! http://turbulence.org/works/PureeData It's a work in progress, and there are some pretty obvious bugs right now, but it does actually work! I just hope my server doesn't die now that it's been announced… It uses the Pyata library by Jeraman to do the dynamic patching and a web.py server to host the site and manage the state. It's pretty janky in a lot of technical ways, and so there are some important features that don't exist yet (like deleting objects!!). I had wanted to try libpd as the backend but I guess it would still work the same way, i.e. with FUDI messages? Anyway, check it out :D All the codez is on github: https://github.com/virgildisgr4ce/PureeData There's an issue tracker so by all means submit issues and feature requests, and if you are so inclined, clone the repo and set up a server yourself! And of course, if you want to help improve PuréeData, I would love you forever!! ≤3 *0x73DB07* Turbulence Commission: PuréeData by Ted Hayes http://turbulence.org/works/PureeData [Optimized for Google Chrome] PuréeData is a web-browser interface for a single shared sound environment that allows live, collaborative patching for anyone, anywhere. Visitors interact with a shared PureData audio synthesis patch and listen to the results as an MP3 stream, with no software to install or set up. The project is open-source, and all are encouraged to modify, improve and set up their own PuréeData servers. PuréeData is a 2011 commission of New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc. for its Turbulence website. It was made possible with funding from the Jerome Foundation. BIOGRAPHIES Ted Hayes is a poet-inventor: conceiving objects and experiences that explore the sublime and the enigmatic through recombination and deconstruction. He is a proponent of what he has dubbed Research Art, or art-as-science experiment, and actively investigates the themes, technologies and ramifications of autonomy, emergence, semiotics, pattern recognition, and neural networks. Ted's works range from a group of language-inventing robots to a mythological city-founding ritual for soprano and string quartet, is a graduate of NYU's Interactive Telecommunications Program. His operating principle is, in a word, poetry: to pique with enigma and confound with beauty. Like us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nrpa.org http://facebook.com/turbulence.org Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/turbulenceorg Please support the Turbulence Commissions Program. See http://turbulence.org for details. --- For removal from the http://www.turbulence.org mail list, click here: http://www.greenspun.com/spam/remove-2.tcl?domain=Turbulenceemail=daleth%40epiphanus%2enet --- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] throw~ / catch~ versus send~ / receive~
Hello, first time poster here at [PD] list... been following the different threads with big interest last weeks. I am somewhat a beginner at Pd and have therefore maybe some trivial question.. that is .. what are the differences between throw~ / catch~ and send~ / receive~ ? For me they seem to work equally well, either as bus sending or single audio signal send. There is probably some fundamentally concept here I did miss. I see it´s marked on the throw~object in the help, that it´s summing bus and the send~ object does not have that marked. Maybe I am doing wrong when I´m summing audiosignals together into a send~ object just by patching them together and should use the throw~object instead, but just curious on why and how?** Thankful for thoughts on this.. All the best, Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] throw~ / catch~ versus send~ / receive~
Thanks for the info and pointer! Was by that also getting aware about the possible added delay When you send a signal to a point that is earlier in the sorted list of tilde objects, the signal doesn't get there until the next cycle of DSP computation, one block later; so your signal will be delayed by one block (1.45 msec by default.) Can be good to know! /Björn 2011/9/28 Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it Hi Björn, On 28/09/2011 15:27, Björn Eriksson wrote: [...] what are the differences between throw~ / catch~ and send~ / receive~ ? For me they seem to work equally well, either as bus sending or single audio signal send. From the Pd Documentation [1]: There can be many throw~ objects associated with a single catch~, but a throw~ can't talk to more than one catch~. ... Send~ just saves a signal which may then be receive~d any number of times; but a receive~ can only pick up one send~ at a time (but you can switch between send~s if you want.) Ciao, Lorenzo [1] http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_**documentation/x2.htm#s4.5http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s4.5 Maybe I am doing wrong when I´m summing audiosignals together into a send~ object just by patching them together and should use the throw~object instead, but just curious on why and how?// Thankful for thoughts on this.. All the best, Björn Eriksson __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] http://puredata.info ?
Hello, sorry if this question already has been raised (just re-subscribed me to the list after some years absence). What is the status of http://puredata.info ? The pages seems to be down at least since last weekend. All the best, Björn Eriksson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
