Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2008-06-20 Thread Vincent Rioux



 I get this error message when i try to load it but i guess this is 
 because i don't have any dmx-usb device (yet) ;-)
 dmxin.pd_linux: undefined symbol: DMXINdev dmxin

 aye, this was due to some library havoc i head on my machine (having 
 installed both the dmx4linux debian package and dmx4linux from source; 
 and actually linking against the library provided by the debian package)

 should be fixed now in svn.

yes, thanks IOhannes.



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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2008-06-19 Thread Vincent Rioux

Hi,

Wtf2osc sounds really interesting.
I would like to be able to send pretty fast values on 24 channels.
What would be the best Enttec-DMX-USB-Pro or the uDMX?
Do you know which rate can reach this boxes?

by advance thanks,
Vincent


Chris a écrit :

Well,
another solution:

Some time ago I wrote a script for the Enttec-DMX-USB-Pro. It's
available at sourceforge: http://sf.net/projects/wtf2osc. You have to
check it out from CVS.

It's tried in Linux and Windows (but should work in OSX too) and you can
talk to it using the OSC-External available for PD (or with any other
OSC-capable-software). A sample-patch is included in CVS.


When it comes to theaters: I don't think they would accept a
open-source- tinker- solution, most are fixed on (and only trust in)
commercial devices for some 1000$  :(  And sometimes 40 steps/second is
too slow for you when you want to be really creative.

So long,
Chris



David Schaffer wrote:
  
Hi, 


   Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?  I never 
heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward for the program: 
being able to deal with sound, video, midi and lighting control signals would 
make it a must-have for theaters... Considering pd's control signals abilities, 
it shouldn't be too hard to emulate a lighting board's functions, and also the 
sound/lighting interraction could be much deeper. Has anyone thought of this 
before? I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there...




   D.S
  



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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2008-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Vincent Rioux wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Wtf2osc sounds really interesting.
 I would like to be able to send pretty fast values on 24 channels.
 What would be the best Enttec-DMX-USB-Pro or the uDMX?

btw, there is a dmx-external for linux in iem/dmx512 supporting both 
including to objects [dmxin] and [dmxout].

the project i wrote these objects for is right now under development.
i am currently using the enttec open dmx, but hope that my pro model 
will soon be delivered.


fgmasdr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2008-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Vincent Rioux wrote:
 Hi IOhannes,
 
 
 then compiling the extension
 cd externals/iem/dmx512/src
 ./configure
 make
 
 it might be good to include this note in your readme.txt (?)


thanks for the suggestion, i have added a bit of description on how to 
actually compile the 2 externals to the README.txt

 
 I get this error message when i try to load it but i guess this is 
 because i don't have any dmx-usb device (yet) ;-)
 dmxin.pd_linux: undefined symbol: DMXINdev dmxin

aye, this was due to some library havoc i head on my machine (having 
installed both the dmx4linux debian package and dmx4linux from source; 
and actually linking against the library provided by the debian package)

should be fixed now in svn.

 
 Do you have then an idea of the message rate that this devices can handle?
 

unfortunately i currently cannot test it (as i have no dmx-controllable 
here); once i do so i'll tell you (if i don't forget it)

gmasdr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2008-06-19 Thread Chris
Hi Vincent,

24 channels shouldn't be a problem with any device available. At 24 
channels you should get refresh-rates of max. 868 Hz. Even half of it is 
still good.
uDMX is really cheap if built yourself. Both devices are buffered. For 
both Pd-externals do exist, too. But I don't really know about their 
performance, but uDMX seemed a bit faster to me, the Enttec-one had all 
that terminal-emulaion-overhead of the ftdi-chip, but I'm working on a 
libusb-version of it. I didn't really tested and I don't own an 
Enttec-device so I can't test.

But at 24 channels it really shouldn't matter. If you don't want to 
spend much money, build a uDMX-device (less than 10€, maybe less than 
5€). Just don't (!) buy yourself the enttec-open-dmx-device, it's not 
worth it.

-Chris

Vincent Rioux wrote:
 Hi,

 Wtf2osc sounds really interesting.
 I would like to be able to send pretty fast values on 24 channels.
 What would be the best Enttec-DMX-USB-Pro or the uDMX?
 Do you know which rate can reach this boxes?

 by advance thanks,
 Vincent


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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-24 Thread |||__|||


i used that one with osx  pd and it worked fine - please email me if  
you need the external.
should also run on win.

emanuel

On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:30, Peter Plessas wrote:


 I once bought an Enttec DMX USB interface (enttec.com) but did  
 never get
 it to run, because the dmx4linux drivers did not compile for my  
 kernel:


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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-24 Thread Chris
Well,
another solution:

Some time ago I wrote a script for the Enttec-DMX-USB-Pro. It's
available at sourceforge: http://sf.net/projects/wtf2osc. You have to
check it out from CVS.

It's tried in Linux and Windows (but should work in OSX too) and you can
talk to it using the OSC-External available for PD (or with any other
OSC-capable-software). A sample-patch is included in CVS.


When it comes to theaters: I don't think they would accept a
open-source- tinker- solution, most are fixed on (and only trust in)
commercial devices for some 1000$  :(  And sometimes 40 steps/second is
too slow for you when you want to be really creative.

So long,
Chris



David Schaffer wrote:
 Hi, 

Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?  I never 
 heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward for the 
 program: being able to deal with sound, video, midi and lighting control 
 signals would make it a must-have for theaters... Considering pd's control 
 signals abilities, it shouldn't be too hard to emulate a lighting board's 
 functions, and also the sound/lighting interraction could be much deeper. Has 
 anyone thought of this before? I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there...

   
   
   
  D.S
   
 

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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-23 Thread bigswift
i would be interested in helping out or working on a virtual DMX control patch
it would be nice for low budget lighting control for rep spaces 
i have looked at the enttec stuff as well as lanbox

anyone else have a working DMX control patch for pd?




 Martin Peach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 David Schaffer wrote:
  Hi,
   
 Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?  I 
  never heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward 
  for the program: being able to deal with sound, video, midi and 
  lighting control signals would make it a must-have for theaters... 
  Considering pd's control signals abilities, it shouldn't be too hard 
  to emulate a lighting board's functions, and also the sound/lighting 
  interraction could be much deeper. Has anyone thought of this before? 
  I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there...
 It should be doable with [comport] and an EIA-485 converter on your 
 serial port, _except_ the snag is the baud rate of 25, which is not 
 available on most serial ports.
 For usb, this thing looks good, it already has a pd object:
 http://www.anyma.ch/research/udmx/
 
 Martin
 
 
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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-23 Thread David Kirkpatrick
Hey,

I've developed an external with Adrian Taylor called dmxsend. It sends to 
the the Enttech DMX USB Pro. Feel free to email me for a copy. It's Windows 
only (.dll) seeings thats the OS I usually use, but anyone who wants to is 
free to try and get it to work on Linux or OSX.

David Kirkpatrick


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i would be interested in helping out or working on a virtual DMX control 
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it would be nice for low budget lighting control for rep spaces
i have looked at the enttec stuff as well as lanbox

anyone else have a working DMX control patch for pd?

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[PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-22 Thread David Schaffer
Hi, 

   Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?  I never 
heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward for the program: 
being able to deal with sound, video, midi and lighting control signals would 
make it a must-have for theaters... Considering pd's control signals abilities, 
it shouldn't be too hard to emulate a lighting board's functions, and also the 
sound/lighting interraction could be much deeper. Has anyone thought of this 
before? I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there...




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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-22 Thread Max Neupert
there are also midi - dmx boxes out there.
did you try searching the archive? there are 75 founds for DMX.

Am 23.09.2007 um 09:37 schrieb David Schaffer:

 Hi,

Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?   
 I never heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step  
 forward for the program: being able to deal with sound, video, midi  
 and lighting control signals would make it a must-have for  
 theaters... Considering pd's control signals abilities, it  
 shouldn't be too hard to emulate a lighting board's functions, and  
 also the sound/lighting interraction could be much deeper. Has  
 anyone thought of this before? I know there's usb-dmx boxes out  
 there...





D.S
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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-22 Thread Peter Plessas
* David Schaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-22 15:55]:
 Hi, 
 
Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?  I never 
 heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward for the 
 program: being able to deal with sound, video, midi and lighting control 
 signals would make it a must-have for theaters... Considering pd's control 
 signals abilities, it shouldn't be too hard to emulate a lighting board's 
 functions, and also the sound/lighting interraction could be much deeper. Has 
 anyone thought of this before? I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there...
 

Hi David, Chris, List

there was a dmx external by Chris Kummerer, the page does not
exist anymore: http://test.pilot.fm/pd/externs/

Olaf Matthes did an External for Max only:
http://www.akustische-kunst.org/maxmsp/

I once bought an Enttec DMX USB interface (enttec.com) but did never get
it to run, because the dmx4linux drivers did not compile for my kernel:

On the dmx4linux-webpage they write:
http://llg.cubic.org/dmx4linux/
2005-09-14 :
DMX4Linux 2.6 released. The first release to support linux 2.6 kernels, but not 
all drivers have been ported yet

The developers are very nice, and told me about a way to compile it,
which i did not, bc it meant going through a lot of files and changing
some variable names, which i postponed to winter/summer holidays (choose
one) :-)

Perhaps you speak german? This is out of an email by Michael Stickel
(dmx4linux developer), Feb 2006, michael[at]roasted.cubic.org:
Quote:
Ueberall wo in den dmx4linux Sourcen (Makefile's und config.mk) -ldmx
vorkommt
durch -ldmx512 ersetzen und im lib Ordner im Makefile statt libdmx als
target libdmx512 angeben, dann sollte er das als libdmx512.so.* und
libdmx512.a uebersetzen.
\Quote

It would be great if the drivers and the external by Chris were still
available and would compile, please keep us posted about any success you
have!

regards, Peter
   
   
   
  .S

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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-22 Thread Martin Peach
David Schaffer wrote:
 Hi,
  
Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd?  I 
 never heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward 
 for the program: being able to deal with sound, video, midi and 
 lighting control signals would make it a must-have for theaters... 
 Considering pd's control signals abilities, it shouldn't be too hard 
 to emulate a lighting board's functions, and also the sound/lighting 
 interraction could be much deeper. Has anyone thought of this before? 
 I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there...
It should be doable with [comport] and an EIA-485 converter on your 
serial port, _except_ the snag is the baud rate of 25, which is not 
available on most serial ports.
For usb, this thing looks good, it already has a pd object:
http://www.anyma.ch/research/udmx/

Martin


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Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?

2007-09-22 Thread Peter Plessas
Hi,

i just tried compiling the latest dmx4linux drivers with my little old
2.6.16 kernel, and they seem to work. Now on for the externals!

glg, Peter

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