Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread husk
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> pdp_yqt plays sounds ok on linux, thanks.
>   
Hi Yves, i'm curious about tools you're using...
I'm on Ubuntu hardy and all seems to work well, but the only sound i get 
from pdp_yqt is from afropixel.mov video (with cuts and clicks). I use 
avidemux and cinerella for encode my a/v, but i didn't find still a 
correct format. Strangely pdp_qt~ open more video with audio than 
pdp_yqt, but when it arrive at the last frame pd crash. 
> ciao,
> sevy
>
>   
chao
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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread ydegoyon

yves degoyon wrote:
> ola,
>>
>> I tried the video of the senegal workshop.
>> http://www.craslab.org/interaction/files/videos/afropixel2008.mov
>>
>
> this one is a bit tricky,
> with audio at 32000 kHz encoded with mp4a,
> pdp_yqt can only resample with a
> factor of type (int), meaning 1:2 , 1:3
>
> 32000/444100 = 0,7256
>
> but, on linux ( hardy ), it produces sound
> with cuts and clicks..
>
> ciao,
> sevy


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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread Jack

Le 21 mai 08 à 15:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

>
> On May 21, 2008, at 2:46 AM, marius schebella wrote:
>
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen...
>>> arg...
>>
>> i tested the pdp_qt and pdp_yqt (with a self compiled pdx version).
>> I could load some files, but not all. pdp_yqt does not output sound.
>> but with one file pd crashed my whole system. the computer just
>> became very slow and did not respond anymore, I had to hard reset
>> it. (twice, because I wanted to be sure, that was really happening).
>
> I think pdp_yqt is pretty buggy.  Use pdp_qt or pdp_qt~ for sound  
> maybe.

Here some results with [pdp_qt~] and different sound codec. Only PCM  
linéaire and IMA 4:1 seem to work (but i get this error : pdp_qt:  
error decoding audio). The movie codec is JPEG (.mov).

With AAC :
pdp_qt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegaac.mov
pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 43 fps, 427 frames, jpeg  
codec)
pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 16000 Hz, 290816 samples,  
chunksize 373)
pdp_qt: using colormodel YUV420P
pdp_qt: /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegaac.mov opened
i get a crash of my system and need to hard reset it with [pdp_qt~].

With AMR à bande étroite :
pdp_qt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegamr.mov
pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 43 fps, 427 frames, jpeg  
codec)
pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 8000 Hz, 142400 samples,  
chunksize 186)
pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported audio codec
pdp_qt: using colormodel YUV420P
pdp_qt: /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegamr.mov opened
This sound codec is unsupported, so no sound with [pdp_qt~].

With Apple Lossless :
pdp_qt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegaploss.mov
pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 43 fps, 427 frames, jpeg  
codec)
pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 44100 Hz, 786432 samples,  
chunksize 1029)
pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported audio codec
pdp_qt: using colormodel YUV420P
pdp_qt: /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegaploss.mov opened
This sound codec is unsupported, so no sound with [pdp_qt~].

With PCM linéaire :
pdp_qt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegpcm.mov
pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 43 fps, 427 frames, jpeg  
codec)
pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 44100 Hz, 784539 samples,  
chunksize 1029)
pdp_qt: using colormodel YUV420P
pdp_qt: /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegpcm.mov opened
All works fine (video and sound) but i get this error (strange ?) :
pdp_qt: error decoding audio

With Qualcomm :
pdp_qt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegqualcomm.mov
pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 43 fps, 427 frames, jpeg  
codec)
pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 8000 Hz, 142400 samples,  
chunksize 186)
pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported audio codec
pdp_qt: using colormodel YUV420P
pdp_qt: /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpegqualcomm.mov opened
This sound codec is unsupported, so no sound with [pdp_qt~].

With IMA 4:1 :
pdp_qt: opening /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpeg.mov
pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 43 fps, 427 frames, jpeg  
codec)
pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 44100 Hz, 784576 samples,  
chunksize 1029)
pdp_qt: using colormodel YUV420P
pdp_qt: /Users/rybn12/Desktop/VOSTF/RomeOKjpeg.mov opened
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't work :)
And when it works (video and sound),i get this error (strange ?) :
pdp_qt: error decoding audio

++

Jack




>
>
>> also, pdp_qt only works if I started X11 before.
>
> There is a bug report about this, please add to it any details of
> your setup.  PDP always starts X11 for me.
>
> .hc
>
>> marius.
>>
>>> .hc
>>> On May 19, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 Hey,

 I think I fixed the problem on Mac OS X where [pdp_qt] couldn't
 load any codecs, please try it and let me know either way.

 .hc



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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread chris clepper
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:58 AM, marius schebella <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> libquicktime is poorly installed because apple does not want quicktime
> run good outside the quicktime player. even on the same machine a video
> can run good in the quicktime player but perform bad outside.
> it's one of these corporate decisions to make more money by forcing
> people to use a monopoly software.
> thank you,
> marius.
>

You are confusing libquicktime with the Quicktime API.  Apple only creates
the latter and has nothing to do with libquicktime.
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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On May 21, 2008, at 3:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen...
>>> arg...
>>
>> i tested the pdp_qt and pdp_yqt (with a self compiled pdx version).
>> I could load some files, but not all. pdp_yqt does not output sound.
>> but with one file pd crashed my whole system. the computer just
>> became very slow and did not respond anymore, I had to hard reset
>> it. (twice, because I wanted to be sure, that was really happening).
>
>> I think pdp_yqt is pretty buggy.  Use pdp_qt or pdp_qt~ for sound  
>> maybe.
>
> I think it's just a fast excuse to not wondering
> why libquicktime is poorly compiled
> and installed on OSX ..
> ( i think here it doesn't have the support for mp3 )
>
> pdp_yqt plays sounds ok on linux, thanks.

I am not blaming or saying anything other than pdp and pdp_yqt seem  
buggy on Mac OS X.  That's there isn't a Mac OS X maintainer for PDP,  
any volunteers? :D


.hc

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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread Jack
I tried with all sound formats that QT pro offer and i didn't get  
sound with [pdp_yqt].
Here the sound formats :

PCM linéaire
AAC
AMR à bande étroite
Apple lossless
IMA 4:1
Qualcomm PureVoice
and Xiph Vorbis didn't work

++

Jack


Le 21 mai 08 à 16:06, Jack a écrit :

>
> Le 21 mai 08 à 02:48, marius schebella a écrit :
>
>> Jack wrote:
>>> Very nice !
>>> That works ! No more problem with [pdp_yqt] nor [pdp_qt] on
>>> MacOSX. 4.11 on PowerBook G4.
>>> Great job Hans, thanx.
>>> ++
>>
>> did you get sound out of pdp_yqt? because I didn't. I am on 10.5
>> and was running home brewed pdx.
>> marius.
>
>
> In fact my first movie was without sound track.
> And if i encode sound with PCM or IMA 4:1, I don't get sound too.
> ++
>
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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread Jack

Le 21 mai 08 à 02:48, marius schebella a écrit :

> Jack wrote:
>> Very nice !
>> That works ! No more problem with [pdp_yqt] nor [pdp_qt] on  
>> MacOSX. 4.11 on PowerBook G4.
>> Great job Hans, thanx.
>> ++
>
> did you get sound out of pdp_yqt? because I didn't. I am on 10.5  
> and was running home brewed pdx.
> marius.


In fact my first movie was without sound track.
And if i encode sound with PCM or IMA 4:1, I don't get sound too.
++

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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread marius schebella
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen...
>>> arg...
>> i tested the pdp_qt and pdp_yqt (with a self compiled pdx version).
>> I could load some files, but not all. pdp_yqt does not output sound.
>> but with one file pd crashed my whole system. the computer just
>> became very slow and did not respond anymore, I had to hard reset
>> it. (twice, because I wanted to be sure, that was really happening).
> 
>> I think pdp_yqt is pretty buggy.  Use pdp_qt or pdp_qt~ for sound maybe.
> 
> I think it's just a fast excuse to not wondering
> why libquicktime is poorly compiled

libquicktime is poorly installed because apple does not want quicktime 
run good outside the quicktime player. even on the same machine a video 
can run good in the quicktime player but perform bad outside.
it's one of these corporate decisions to make more money by forcing 
people to use a monopoly software.
thank you,
marius.

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[PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread ydegoyon

> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen...
>> arg...
>
> i tested the pdp_qt and pdp_yqt (with a self compiled pdx version).
> I could load some files, but not all. pdp_yqt does not output sound.
> but with one file pd crashed my whole system. the computer just
> became very slow and did not respond anymore, I had to hard reset
> it. (twice, because I wanted to be sure, that was really happening).

> I think pdp_yqt is pretty buggy.  Use pdp_qt or pdp_qt~ for sound maybe.

I think it's just a fast excuse to not wondering
why libquicktime is poorly compiled
and installed on OSX ..
( i think here it doesn't have the support for mp3 )

pdp_yqt plays sounds ok on linux, thanks.

ciao,
sevy



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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> On May 21, 2008, at 2:46 AM, marius schebella wrote:
> 
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen... arg...
>>
>> i tested the pdp_qt and pdp_yqt (with a self compiled pdx version). I 
>> could load some files, but not all. pdp_yqt does not output sound.
>> but with one file pd crashed my whole system. the computer just became 
>> very slow and did not respond anymore, I had to hard reset it. (twice, 
>> because I wanted to be sure, that was really happening).
> 
> I think pdp_yqt is pretty buggy.  Use pdp_qt or pdp_qt~ for sound maybe.

I tried the video of the senegal workshop.
http://www.craslab.org/interaction/files/videos/afropixel2008.mov
this causes syslogd to go crazy and makes my whole machine breakdown.
pdp_qt~ only starts if audio is turned on, then plays some sound, but 
spits out errors
pdp_qt: error decoding audio
and you are right, x11 starts automatically, but takes about 20 seconds 
to do so.
marius.

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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On May 21, 2008, at 2:46 AM, marius schebella wrote:

> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen...  
>> arg...
>
> i tested the pdp_qt and pdp_yqt (with a self compiled pdx version).  
> I could load some files, but not all. pdp_yqt does not output sound.
> but with one file pd crashed my whole system. the computer just  
> became very slow and did not respond anymore, I had to hard reset  
> it. (twice, because I wanted to be sure, that was really happening).

I think pdp_yqt is pretty buggy.  Use pdp_qt or pdp_qt~ for sound maybe.


> also, pdp_qt only works if I started X11 before.

There is a bug report about this, please add to it any details of  
your setup.  PDP always starts X11 for me.

.hc

> marius.
>
>> .hc
>> On May 19, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I think I fixed the problem on Mac OS X where [pdp_qt] couldn't   
>>> load any codecs, please try it and let me know either way.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> -- --
>>>
>>> Terrorism is not an enemy.  It cannot be defeated.  It's a  
>>> tactic.   It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night  
>>> attacks and  expect we're going to win that war.  We're not going  
>>> to win the war  on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general,  
>>> William Odom
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-20 Thread marius schebella
Jack wrote:
> Very nice !
> That works ! No more problem with [pdp_yqt] nor [pdp_qt] on MacOSX. 
> 4.11 on PowerBook G4.
> Great job Hans, thanx.
> ++

did you get sound out of pdp_yqt? because I didn't. I am on 10.5 and was 
running home brewed pdx.
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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-20 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen... arg...

i tested the pdp_qt and pdp_yqt (with a self compiled pdx version). I 
could load some files, but not all. pdp_yqt does not output sound.
but with one file pd crashed my whole system. the computer just became 
very slow and did not respond anymore, I had to hard reset it. (twice, 
because I wanted to be sure, that was really happening).
also, pdp_qt only works if I started X11 before.
marius.

> 
> .hc
> 
> On May 19, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
>> Hey,
>>
>> I think I fixed the problem on Mac OS X where [pdp_qt] couldn't  
>> load any codecs, please try it and let me know either way.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> --
>>
>> Terrorism is not an enemy.  It cannot be defeated.  It's a tactic.   
>> It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and  
>> expect we're going to win that war.  We're not going to win the war  
>> on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three  
> meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds,  
> and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits.  - Martin  
> Luther King, Jr.
> 
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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-20 Thread Jack
Very nice !
That works ! No more problem with [pdp_yqt] nor [pdp_qt] on MacOSX. 
4.11 on PowerBook G4.
Great job Hans, thanx.
++

Jack


Le 19 mai 08 à 18:57, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

>
> Hey,
>
> I think I fixed the problem on Mac OS X where [pdp_qt] couldn't load
> any codecs, please try it and let me know either way.
>
> .hc
>
>
>
> -- 
> --
> 
>
> Terrorism is not an enemy.  It cannot be defeated.  It's a tactic.
> It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
> expect we're going to win that war.  We're not going to win the war
> on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom
>
>
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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Of course, when I post this, the Mac/Intel build didn't happen... arg...

.hc

On May 19, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> Hey,
>
> I think I fixed the problem on Mac OS X where [pdp_qt] couldn't  
> load any codecs, please try it and let me know either way.
>
> .hc
>
>
>
> -- 
> --
>
> Terrorism is not an enemy.  It cannot be defeated.  It's a tactic.   
> It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and  
> expect we're going to win that war.  We're not going to win the war  
> on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom
>
>



 


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Re: [PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-19 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I think I fixed the problem on Mac OS X where [pdp_qt] couldn't load  
> any codecs, please try it and let me know either way.

is the fix in svn? that would be s great!!!
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[PD] pdp_qt on Mac OS X

2008-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Hey,

I think I fixed the problem on Mac OS X where [pdp_qt] couldn't load  
any codecs, please try it and let me know either way.

.hc



 


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It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and  
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