Re: [PD] Tidy question
On May 29, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 4:37 PM On May 29, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 4:06 PM Sounds worth trying, I haven't myself. We've recently done some work on the whole MinGW build environment and docs so it should be relatively straightforward to get going. If you just want to build Pd, then its much easier. Most of the build environment setup is for all the libs, which Pd itself doesn't need. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw I don't understand the final step under the heading Building Pd-extended with MinGW. Am I supposed to be in a msys shell or cygwin? Because the svn command only works in cygwin. The final step is to get the whole source tree for Pd-extended then build just Pd (not the whole package). The 'svn' part can be run in Cygwin. You can install a MSYS svn or you can add Cgywin to the path (last, so the MSYS always task precedence) then you can use the Cygwin svn in MSYS. The make -f makefile.mingw must be run in MSYS. .hc Ok, now I'm building in msys but getting the mysterious message: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/stdlib.h', needed by `g_canvas.o'. Stop. I'm using your mingw installation, and stdlib.h definitely exists. Any ideas on why it's not pointing to the right place? Try deleting makefile.dependencies : http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2007-12/010313.html .hc -Jonathan -Jonathan .hc On May 28, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi list, Has anyone ever tried increasing the values for XTOLERANCE and YTOLERANCE in g_editor.c to improve the usefulness of Tidy Up? Like maybe jacking both values up to 14, for example? Currently, objects have to be within 4 vertical or 3 horizontal pixels of each other for tidy up to do anything at all. I would try it myself but I'm on windows and haven't yet investigated the whole build process. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Tidy question
Thanks, I've got a Frankenstein version working. I had to create a lib folder and put the tcl/tk folders in it because it's not finding mingw/lib, and I had to copy stuff from pd/obj into pd/bin manually. Here's the settings I'm trying in g_editor.c: #define XTOLERANCE 18 #define YTOLERANCE 17 #define NHIST 35 This gives reasonable results, certainly better than the defaults. X and YTOLERANCE are still low enough that vertical selections stay vertical, and horizontal ones stay horizontal (unless the objects overlap, which they shouldn't in the first place.). NHIST sets the minimum vertical distance between logical groups of objects. It's normally 15, so if there's more than 15 pixels separating the bottom of one object from the top of another, it won't line them up vertically. Obviously I like to tidy up one group at a time, but maybe these should be customizable... Would be nice to have a keyboard shortcut for this in the future (CTRL+Y?) -Jonathan --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 6:13 PM On May 29, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 4:37 PM On May 29, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 4:06 PM Sounds worth trying, I haven't myself. We've recently done some work on the whole MinGW build environment and docs so it should be relatively straightforward to get going. If you just want to build Pd, then its much easier. Most of the build environment setup is for all the libs, which Pd itself doesn't need. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw I don't understand the final step under the heading Building Pd-extended with MinGW. Am I supposed to be in a msys shell or cygwin? Because the svn command only works in cygwin. The final step is to get the whole source tree for Pd-extended then build just Pd (not the whole package). The 'svn' part can be run in Cygwin. You can install a MSYS svn or you can add Cgywin to the path (last, so the MSYS always task precedence) then you can use the Cygwin svn in MSYS. The make -f makefile.mingw must be run in MSYS. .hc Ok, now I'm building in msys but getting the mysterious message: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/stdlib.h', needed by `g_canvas.o'. Stop. I'm using your mingw installation, and stdlib.h definitely exists. Any ideas on why it's not pointing to the right place? Try deleting makefile.dependencies : http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2007-12/010313.html .hc -Jonathan -Jonathan .hc On May 28, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi list, Has anyone ever tried increasing the values for XTOLERANCE and YTOLERANCE in g_editor.c to improve the usefulness of Tidy Up? Like maybe jacking both values up to 14, for example? Currently, objects have to be within 4 vertical or 3 horizontal pixels of each other for tidy up to do anything at all. I would try it myself but I'm on windows and haven't yet investigated the whole build process. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Tidy question
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 4:06 PM Sounds worth trying, I haven't myself. We've recently done some work on the whole MinGW build environment and docs so it should be relatively straightforward to get going. If you just want to build Pd, then its much easier. Most of the build environment setup is for all the libs, which Pd itself doesn't need. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw I don't understand the final step under the heading Building Pd-extended with MinGW. Am I supposed to be in a msys shell or cygwin? Because the svn command only works in cygwin. -Jonathan .hc On May 28, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi list, Has anyone ever tried increasing the values for XTOLERANCE and YTOLERANCE in g_editor.c to improve the usefulness of Tidy Up? Like maybe jacking both values up to 14, for example? Currently, objects have to be within 4 vertical or 3 horizontal pixels of each other for tidy up to do anything at all. I would try it myself but I'm on windows and haven't yet investigated the whole build process. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Tidy question
On May 29, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 4:06 PM Sounds worth trying, I haven't myself. We've recently done some work on the whole MinGW build environment and docs so it should be relatively straightforward to get going. If you just want to build Pd, then its much easier. Most of the build environment setup is for all the libs, which Pd itself doesn't need. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw I don't understand the final step under the heading Building Pd-extended with MinGW. Am I supposed to be in a msys shell or cygwin? Because the svn command only works in cygwin. The final step is to get the whole source tree for Pd-extended then build just Pd (not the whole package). The 'svn' part can be run in Cygwin. You can install a MSYS svn or you can add Cgywin to the path (last, so the MSYS always task precedence) then you can use the Cygwin svn in MSYS. The make -f makefile.mingw must be run in MSYS. .hc -Jonathan .hc On May 28, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi list, Has anyone ever tried increasing the values for XTOLERANCE and YTOLERANCE in g_editor.c to improve the usefulness of Tidy Up? Like maybe jacking both values up to 14, for example? Currently, objects have to be within 4 vertical or 3 horizontal pixels of each other for tidy up to do anything at all. I would try it myself but I'm on windows and haven't yet investigated the whole build process. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Tidy question
--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 4:37 PM On May 29, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 4:06 PM Sounds worth trying, I haven't myself. We've recently done some work on the whole MinGW build environment and docs so it should be relatively straightforward to get going. If you just want to build Pd, then its much easier. Most of the build environment setup is for all the libs, which Pd itself doesn't need. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/mingw I don't understand the final step under the heading Building Pd-extended with MinGW. Am I supposed to be in a msys shell or cygwin? Because the svn command only works in cygwin. The final step is to get the whole source tree for Pd-extended then build just Pd (not the whole package). The 'svn' part can be run in Cygwin. You can install a MSYS svn or you can add Cgywin to the path (last, so the MSYS always task precedence) then you can use the Cygwin svn in MSYS. The make -f makefile.mingw must be run in MSYS. .hc Ok, now I'm building in msys but getting the mysterious message: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/stdlib.h', needed by `g_canvas.o'. Stop. I'm using your mingw installation, and stdlib.h definitely exists. Any ideas on why it's not pointing to the right place? -Jonathan -Jonathan .hc On May 28, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi list, Has anyone ever tried increasing the values for XTOLERANCE and YTOLERANCE in g_editor.c to improve the usefulness of Tidy Up? Like maybe jacking both values up to 14, for example? Currently, objects have to be within 4 vertical or 3 horizontal pixels of each other for tidy up to do anything at all. I would try it myself but I'm on windows and haven't yet investigated the whole build process. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
