Re: [PD] text into pix
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:55 +0200, Tim Boykett wrote: > > Hello List, > >is there a way to get text into a pix chain? > > my little "thing to do" is: a camera, some extra information > into the camera stream (the text that I need), and record it > using pix_record. > > Or is there a better solution? don't know, if there are various solutions, but you can convert the framebuffer into a pix again using [pix_snap]. either you can grab both together, the video and the text, so that you display the text already upon the video, or you could grab the text separately (in a free area of the gemwin) and use [pix_mix] to merge the text-pix and the video afterwards. the former is possibly simpler to implement, but since you are applying a pix as texture in order to display it in opengl and then converting it back to a pix again, this might introduce interpolation artefacts. however, if you have alltogether in one pix, you can simply record it using [pix_record]. roman > Cheers, > > tim > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] text into pix
Hi Roman, Okay, I had contemplated this and though that it must be possible to do this easier. But No! This seems somehow like a hack, but I suppose pix_ things are there for image manipulation, not image creation... I am using OSX so there is currently some problem with GEM and fonts and PD and...hmm... so it remains undoable anyway :-> But thanks: I will simply build a few simple graphical objects to transfer the information, then use pix_snap to get images for recording. Thank you muchly! Tim On 10/05/2007, at 4:34 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:55 +0200, Tim Boykett wrote: >> >> Hello List, >> >>is there a way to get text into a pix chain? >> >> my little "thing to do" is: a camera, some extra information >> into the camera stream (the text that I need), and record it >> using pix_record. >> >> Or is there a better solution? > > don't know, if there are various solutions, but you can convert the > framebuffer into a pix again using [pix_snap]. either you can grab > both > together, the video and the text, so that you display the text already > upon the video, or you could grab the text separately (in a free > area of > the gemwin) and use [pix_mix] to merge the text-pix and the video > afterwards. the former is possibly simpler to implement, but since you > are applying a pix as texture in order to display it in opengl and > then > converting it back to a pix again, this might introduce interpolation > artefacts. > however, if you have alltogether in one pix, you can simply record it > using [pix_record]. > > roman > > >> Cheers, >> >> tim >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// > messenger.yahoo.de > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] text into pix
hi tim again On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 17:37 +0200, Tim Boykett wrote: > Hi Roman, > > Okay, I had contemplated this and though that it must be possible > to do this easier. But No! This seems somehow like a hack, hack or not, i think there is no other way, unless there are plans for something like a [pix_text]. > I am using OSX so there is currently some problem with > GEM and fonts and PD and...hmm... so it remains undoable > anyway :-> afaik, the work on solving these problems is in progress (if not already solved yet). try the newest auto builds > But thanks: I will simply build a few simple graphical objects > to transfer the information, then use pix_snap to get images for > recording. Thank you muchly! your welcome! roman > Tim > > On 10/05/2007, at 4:34 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:55 +0200, Tim Boykett wrote: > >> > >> Hello List, > >> > >>is there a way to get text into a pix chain? > >> > >> my little "thing to do" is: a camera, some extra information > >> into the camera stream (the text that I need), and record it > >> using pix_record. > >> > >> Or is there a better solution? > > > > don't know, if there are various solutions, but you can convert the > > framebuffer into a pix again using [pix_snap]. either you can grab > > both > > together, the video and the text, so that you display the text already > > upon the video, or you could grab the text separately (in a free > > area of > > the gemwin) and use [pix_mix] to merge the text-pix and the video > > afterwards. the former is possibly simpler to implement, but since you > > are applying a pix as texture in order to display it in opengl and > > then > > converting it back to a pix again, this might introduce interpolation > > artefacts. > > however, if you have alltogether in one pix, you can simply record it > > using [pix_record]. > > > > roman > > > > > >> Cheers, > >> > >> tim > >> > >> ___ > >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > >> listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > ___ > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// > > messenger.yahoo.de > > > ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] text into pix
Roman Haefeli wrote: > hi tim again > > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 17:37 +0200, Tim Boykett wrote: >> Hi Roman, >> >> Okay, I had contemplated this and though that it must be possible >> to do this easier. But No! This seems somehow like a hack, why does it seem like a hack to you? if you want to create an avi of your car, you have to use a video-camera. if you want to create an avi of (vector) graphics, you have to render them into pixel space. i don't think that either of these is a hack; it is just how things are done. > > hack or not, i think there is no other way, unless there are plans for > something like a [pix_text]. > definitely not. if you don't want to do graphics but video instead, you are problably better off with pdp (this is not meant as an insult on you or pdp; it is just that pdp (apart from 3dp) is video/pixel oriented instead of graphic-oriented; yves has done a [pdp_text]) however, "exporting" to different formats should be made simpler in Gem... mfg.adr IOhanens ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] text into pix
This may be an option for OS X users soon, after sufficient pdp/pidip testing is done with Pd-extended! ~Kyle On 5/10/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > hi tim again > > > > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 17:37 +0200, Tim Boykett wrote: > >> Hi Roman, > >> > >> Okay, I had contemplated this and though that it must be possible > >> to do this easier. But No! This seems somehow like a hack, > > why does it seem like a hack to you? > if you want to create an avi of your car, you have to use a video-camera. > if you want to create an avi of (vector) graphics, you have to render > them into pixel space. > > i don't think that either of these is a hack; it is just how things are > done. > > > > > > hack or not, i think there is no other way, unless there are plans for > > something like a [pix_text]. > > > > definitely not. > if you don't want to do graphics but video instead, you are problably > better off with pdp > (this is not meant as an insult on you or pdp; it is just that pdp > (apart from 3dp) is video/pixel oriented instead of graphic-oriented; > yves has done a [pdp_text]) > > however, "exporting" to different formats should be made simpler in Gem... > > mfg.adr > IOhanens > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] text into pix
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 18:16 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > hack or not, i think there is no other way, unless there are plans for > > something like a [pix_text]. > > > > definitely not. that is what i actually expected ;-) > however, "exporting" to different formats should be made simpler in Gem... i could live well with that. the problem i have is, that i can use [pix_snap] and i can also use [pix_record], but when i try to record the grabbed framebuffer (use both at the same time), my pd/gem crashes :-( roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
