Re: [PD] video preview

[paris]

you may want to check out the videogrid here:http://artefacte.org/pd/



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Subject: [PD] video preview
From: Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, July 18, 2007 11:46 am
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  Hello, I'd like to have possibility of previewing video files with the client before sending them to a Gem or pdp window, and I guess I've found a solution I with using quicktimetcl, [widget], and a self-made tcl script.  Before starting to build the .wid file( or tcl script), I'd like to check if there are other solutions available.  Thousand thanks in advance for any hint.___PD-list@iem.at mailing listUNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





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Re: [PD] video preview

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

Patrice Colet wrote:
>  Hello, I'd like to have possibility of previewing video files with the
> client before sending them to a Gem or pdp window, and I guess I've
> found a solution I with using quicktimetcl, [widget], and a self-made

well, you can use multiple pdp windows, so it might be an idea to make
one window the "main" window, and the other one the "preview" window.

and i think someone (i think it was yves or lluis) has written a
"thumbnail" widget for movies, which is kind-of a preview.

mfga.sd
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] video preview

[Patrice Colet]

Hello Paris,
 as far as I've understood the screenshot, videogrid is for previewing 
a single image from the movie, a thumbnail, and I've already have made 
this feature, with using img, and a slider hidden behind, this is not 
very elegant because I have to make a gif from a picture taken in each 
video file, but I like it because I can send through network my image 
preview. Also I might make something more elegant with some 
[pyext]/tkinter or [widget] interface later, but it's not very important 
right now.


 What I'd like to make is more about having the animated movie into a 
playlist, a little bit like in resolume payware.


 Anyway, I put the link in my bookmarks, and will check how videogrid 
looks like,

cheers.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

you may want to check out the videogrid here:

http://artefacte.org/pd/


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Subject: [PD] video preview
From: Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, July 18, 2007 11:46 am
To: pd-list@iem.at

  Hello, I'd like to have possibility of previewing video files with the 
client before sending them to a Gem or pdp window, and I guess I've 
found a solution I with using quicktimetcl, [widget], and a self-made 
tcl script.
  Before starting to build the .wid file( or tcl script), I'd like to 
check if there are other solutions available.

  Thousand thanks in advance for any hint.



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Re: [PD] video preview

[Patrice Colet]

IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :


well, you can use multiple pdp windows, so it might be an idea to make
one window the "main" window, and the other one the "preview" window.

and i think someone (i think it was yves or lluis) has written a
"thumbnail" widget for movies, which is kind-of a preview.


Hello IO,
 this idea sounds half good for me because we would only use this 
feature with linux and osx, and somehow, what I'm trying to do through 
those kinds of patch development is also about converting some VJ's to 
puredata, with offering almost the same possibilities available in their 
favorite payware and I'm afraid most the PC users I want to show the 
powerfullness of our favorite freeware couldn't try it with their 
operating system yet.
 Also, not having the need for adding 'exotic' externals with using 
several pdp windows is great.

 Best regards.
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Re: [PD] video preview

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Hi Patrice,If you are using pdp, why not just create another pdp_xv window just for previewing?Maybe connected to a [playlist] or your favorite method of browsing?Then when you like what you see, route it to the main output.That's what I have done in the past and it worked quite well.Best,p



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Subject: Re: [PD] video preview
From: Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, July 18, 2007 12:34 pm
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Hello Paris,  as far as I've understood the screenshot, videogrid is for previewing a single image from the movie, a thumbnail, and I've already have made this feature, with using img, and a slider hidden behind, this is not very elegant because I have to make a gif from a picture taken in each video file, but I like it because I can send through network my image preview. Also I might make something more elegant with some [pyext]/tkinter or [widget] interface later, but it's not very important right now.  What I'd like to make is more about having the animated movie into a playlist, a little bit like in resolume payware.  Anyway, I put the link in my bookmarks, and will check how videogrid looks like,cheers.paris@parisgraphics.com a écrit :> you may want to check out the videogrid here:> > http://artefacte.org/pd/
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> Subject: [PD] video preview
> From: Patrice Colet <megalegoland@yahoo.fr>> Date: Wed, July 18, 2007 11:46 am> To: pd-list@iem.at
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>   Hello, I'd like to have possibility of previewing video files
with the 
> client before sending them to a Gem or pdp window, and I guess
I've 
> found a solution I with using quicktimetcl, [widget], and a
self-made 
> tcl script.
>   Before starting to build the .wid file( or tcl script), I'd
like to 
> check if there are other solutions available.
>   Thousand thanks in advance for any hint.
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] video preview

[Patrice Colet]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

Hi Patrice,

If you are using pdp, why not just create another pdp_xv window just for 
previewing?

Maybe connected to a [playlist] or your favorite method of browsing?
Then when you like what you see, route it to the main output.
That's what I have done in the past and it worked quite well.

Best,
p


 Indeed, I'm planning first for browsing through a list of video files 
and previewing them into a single monitor windows, because it should be 
rather simple to implement, and pdp make it even simplier than what I 
have imaginated first.
 The finality in fact is about having the possibility of displaying 
different libraries of video files, with an assigned video processing 
method for (hmmm don't know how to call it, let me say) each video object.

 A comparison might be more clear:
 something like [videogrid] but with animated movies, and if it's 
possible, a preview of the effect(s) that has been applied to it, and 
last step (in a not too long future I hope) would be about having a 
preview that mimics things done with different kind of Gem/Gridflow/pdp 
patches, I guess that could be done with capturing main window during 
the saving process.


 Obviously this is only for playing little loops.

By this way of displaying video files, VJing improvisations is a lot 
more efficient than having to browse through lists of video names, 
somehow, like Cris McCormick has demonstrated lately during a discussion 
into desiredata mailing list:


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Re: [PD] video preview

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You could start two PDs. Each one controlling it's own Gem window. One
would be the main output, the other the "previewer".

Tom

On 7/18/07, Patrice Colet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > Hi Patrice,
> >
> > If you are using pdp, why not just create another pdp_xv window just for
> > previewing?
> > Maybe connected to a [playlist] or your favorite method of browsing?
> > Then when you like what you see, route it to the main output.
> > That's what I have done in the past and it worked quite well.
> >
> > Best,
> > p
>
>   Indeed, I'm planning first for browsing through a list of video files
> and previewing them into a single monitor windows, because it should be
> rather simple to implement, and pdp make it even simplier than what I
> have imaginated first.
>   The finality in fact is about having the possibility of displaying
> different libraries of video files, with an assigned video processing
> method for (hmmm don't know how to call it, let me say) each video object.
>   A comparison might be more clear:
>   something like [videogrid] but with animated movies, and if it's
> possible, a preview of the effect(s) that has been applied to it, and
> last step (in a not too long future I hope) would be about having a
> preview that mimics things done with different kind of Gem/Gridflow/pdp
> patches, I guess that could be done with capturing main window during
> the saving process.
>
>   Obviously this is only for playing little loops.
>
> By this way of displaying video files, VJing improvisations is a lot
> more efficient than having to browse through lists of video names,
> somehow, like Cris McCormick has demonstrated lately during a discussion
> into desiredata mailing list:
>
> http://lists.goto10.org/pipermail/desiredata/2007-July/56.html
>
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Re: [PD] video preview

[Patrice Colet]

Thomas O Fredericks a écrit :

You could start two PDs. Each one controlling it's own Gem window. One
would be the main output, the other the "previewer".

Tom


 You are right, a previewer window would also be necessary for sighting 
what's happening on the 'video server', for completing one more function 
that some good VJing programs would give, that's why it's always 
interesting to keep client and server separated by different pd 
instances, even if they are both on the same computer, so every user 
would enjoy this kind of patch, some would just be frustrated of not 
being able to use some tools provided by 'unix only' externals, ...


 For slightly conclude, it's not really interesting to bring some new 
libraries, just for building a single previewer window, since many 
solutions already exist with using only things from the oceans of 
dependencies we already have.


 But still advantageous is to look into some solutions to give better 
visualizing tools that won't drown the video improvisator with 
filenames, and codes.
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