Re: [PD] how to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

> 2017-10-18 3:00 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :
>
>> hi, is there even a way to destroy/delete an object with dynamic
patching?

iemguts' [canvasdelete]
(it also adds a message to the canvas class; so you don't need to use
the actual object, just ordinary dynamic patching messages)

On 10/18/2017 07:10 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> oh... it has to be a vanilla way - I can't afford to have a dependency on
> this

then you're basically out of luck.
there is a reason, why a library like iemguts has an object like
[canvasdelete]: you cannot do this otherwise.

fmdars
IOhannes

PS: but to be honest, there is a hacky way to delete an object, by
mimicking mouse events to select the region where the desired object
(and all other objects that overlap with it) resides and then mimicking
a keyboard event that "cuts" the object. this is highly brittle (as
opposed to the [canvasdelete] method which i consider *very* stable)

gfamrds
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Re: [PD] how to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

oh... it has to be a vanilla way - I can't afford to have a dependency on
this

2017-10-18 3:00 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> hi, is there even a way to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?
>
> cheers
>
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[PD] how to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

hi, is there even a way to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?

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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2017-10-17 21:08 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes :

>
> It's possible you saw the pattern in an abstraction library where this
> issue doesn't come up.
>

but I didn't. And it's also a pattern outside Pd (like in Max, for instance)

Your preference complicates the source code for no significant usability
> gain.
>

I guess that's debatable and a matter of personal preference, and I hope we
don't fall into that debate.

But thanks for your considerations, they're appreciated.

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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list]

>> why do you think you are missing something?

> I usually do that, cause I'm not a programmer
[...]


> I also see this pattern here and there, so I'm 

> not coming up with this, would anyone have something 

> against using "."?

You said above you are not a programmer above, so I'll 

thrown in a programming perspective in the hopes that 

it's useful to you:


Your preference complicates the source 

code for no significant usability gain. 

The relationship between [foo_bar] and foo_bar_setup is 

easy to see, whereas the one between [foo.bar] and 

setup_fooOx2ebar is not.


If the "." character were used in a library name because it 

represents a well-known mathematical operator that would 

be one thing. But using it for personal preference at the 

expense of code readability isn't a worthwhile tradeoff 

from the standpoint of maintainability.


It's possible you saw the pattern in an abstraction 

library where this issue doesn't come up.


Also-- I used an uppercase "o" instead of a zero just 

to drive the readability point home.


Best,
Jonathan

> cheers 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 1.4.2 "Argo in shipyard" released

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On 17.10.2017 22:55, Thomas Mayer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 16.10.2017 22:50, Jack wrote:
>> Hello Johannes,
> 
>> Thank you, but even with [declare -stdpath purest_json -stdlib 
>> purest_json] it doesn't work.
> 
>> libjson0 doesn't exist anymore on the official repository for 
>> Ubuntu 17.10 and according to the doc of purest_json, libcurl3 
>> liboauth0 libjson0 are needed. Maybe the source of the problem ?
>>  https://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html
> 
> Oops, yes, that is the source of the problem. The package is
> called libjson-c2.

And in current distributions it is superseded by libjson-c3.

Hth,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 1.4.2 "Argo in shipyard" released

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Hi,

On 16.10.2017 22:50, Jack wrote:
> Hello Johannes,
> 
> Thank you, but even with [declare -stdpath purest_json -stdlib 
> purest_json] it doesn't work.
> 
> libjson0 doesn't exist anymore on the official repository for
> Ubuntu 17.10 and according to the doc of purest_json, libcurl3
> liboauth0 libjson0 are needed. Maybe the source of the problem ? 
> https://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

Oops, yes, that is the source of the problem. The package is called
libjson-c2.

The Debian and Ubuntu package is called pd-purest-json and is
available since Ubuntu 16.04.

Hth,
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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Simon Iten]

well, yes :-)

i’m used to files that end with a suffix .whatever
the .whatever usually designates the filetype. so using a . before the filetype 
suffix is much harder to read for me and totally uncommon.

while this is not an issue within pd itself it is still worth considering i 
think.

> On 17 Oct 2017, at 22:00, Alexandre Torres Porres  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-10-17 17:45 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes  >:
> > Well, here's what I have, an object named [allpass.rev~]
> 
> As a practical matter, I still don't understand why you are trying 
> to use "." instead of "_".
> 
> not trying anymore, I succeeded, so it seems.
> 
> and I already said it's just a matter of personal preference, not much else 
> to add
> 
> I also see this pattern here and there, so I'm not coming up with this, would 
> anyone have something against using "."?
> 
> cheers 
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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2017-10-17 17:45 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes :

> > Well, here's what I have, an object named [allpass.rev~]
>
> As a practical matter, I still don't understand why you are trying
> to use "." instead of "_".
>

not trying anymore, I succeeded, so it seems.

and I already said it's just a matter of personal preference, not much else
to add

I also see this pattern here and there, so I'm not coming up with this,
would anyone have something against using "."?

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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list]

> Well, here's what I have, an object named [allpass.rev~]
As a practical matter, I still don't understand why you are trying 
to use "." instead of "_".
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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

well, just tested in windows and linux and it worked :)

2017-10-17 17:23 GMT-02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig :

>
> why should it not work?
>

I dunno, that's why I asked, it wasn't clear it'd be fine without hexloader


> why do you think you are missing something?
>

I usually do that, cause I'm not a programmer


> > Why do you want to avoid using an underscore?
>
> +1
>

I just don't like it, I prefer much more to be able to use the "." option

cheers and thanks for the help
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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 10/17/2017 08:59 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Well, here's what I have, an object named [allpass.rev~]
> 
> I compiled a file name "allpass.rev~.pd_darwin", I have
> a allpass.rev~-help.pd, all works fine here in the mac, and all I had to do
> was having a  setup_allpass0x2erev_tilde()  function in the code.
> 
> Now, what am I missing? Is this not gonna work elsewhere? Say, Windows,
> Linux?

why should it not work?
why do you think you are missing something?

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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Well, here's what I have, an object named [allpass.rev~]

I compiled a file name "allpass.rev~.pd_darwin", I have
a allpass.rev~-help.pd, all works fine here in the mac, and all I had to do
was having a  setup_allpass0x2erev_tilde()  function in the code.

Now, what am I missing? Is this not gonna work elsewhere? Say, Windows,
Linux?

cheers


2017-10-17 16:41 GMT-02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig :

> On 10/17/2017 07:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
> >
> >> and how come underline works just fine?
> > Because Pd's loader mechanism searches for the symbol "${libname}_setup",
> > where "${libname}" is the name of the library being loaded.
> > If you make sure that "${libname}" is drawn from the set of characters
> thatcan appear in a C function name, then users will be able to load your
> object
> > in all the ways that Pd provides (using declare, using an absolute path
> name,
> > etc.)
> > If instead you use characters that cannot appear in a C function name,
> you
> > either limit the ways that users can load that library or require
> complicated
> > workarounds like hexloader in order to make the library generally
> loadable.
> >
>
> for what it is worth, hexloader is not *very* complicated.
>
> what most people seem to forget is, that hexloader really consists of
> two parts, solving two different problems:
> - allowing file names that would otherwise be forbidden (by the
> underlying filesystem)
> - allowing setup functions names that would otherwise be forbidden (by
> the C-standard)
>
> the allowed characters in C functions are well defined, e.g. [1]
> the allowed characters in filenames are filesystem dependent, but a good
> overview can be found at [2].
>
> both problems are somewhat similar, as they try to encode the forbidden
> characters into something not forbidden.
> they both use the same method: replacing the forbidden characters with a
> hex-representation.
>
> now the good news is, that if your object name only falls into one
> category, then you only need to deal with that part.
>
> the part of the hexloader implementation that is built into Pd, only
> tackles the 2nd problem (function names).
> since C function names are much more restrictive than file names, this
> usually covers most problems (though obviously not all).
>
> so, if you want an external that contains characters allowed on the
> filesystem but forbidden as (part of) a function name, you only need to
> provide a hexloadable name for the setup function, and don't have to
> worry about ugly filenames that nobody understands.
>
> furthermore, you don't even need to remember the way those hexloadable
> setup function name is to be constructed. simply compile your external
> into "foo.bar.pd_linux", start Pd with "-verbose" and try to instantiate
> [foo.bar].
> Pd will fail to load the external (as it cannot find and call the setup
> function), but will display the setup name it tried to find when setting
> the log-level to "all".
>
> >> What other easy options do I have besides "_"?
> > Why do you want to avoid using an underscore?
>
> +1
>
>
> gamdsr
> IOhannes
>
>
> [1] http://www.c4learn.com/c-programming/c-variable-nameing-rules/
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename#Reserved_characters_and_words
>
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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 10/17/2017 07:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
> 
>> and how come underline works just fine?
> Because Pd's loader mechanism searches for the symbol "${libname}_setup", 
> where "${libname}" is the name of the library being loaded.
> If you make sure that "${libname}" is drawn from the set of characters 
> thatcan appear in a C function name, then users will be able to load your 
> object 
> in all the ways that Pd provides (using declare, using an absolute path name, 
> etc.)
> If instead you use characters that cannot appear in a C function name, you 
> either limit the ways that users can load that library or require complicated 
> workarounds like hexloader in order to make the library generally loadable.
> 

for what it is worth, hexloader is not *very* complicated.

what most people seem to forget is, that hexloader really consists of
two parts, solving two different problems:
- allowing file names that would otherwise be forbidden (by the
underlying filesystem)
- allowing setup functions names that would otherwise be forbidden (by
the C-standard)

the allowed characters in C functions are well defined, e.g. [1]
the allowed characters in filenames are filesystem dependent, but a good
overview can be found at [2].

both problems are somewhat similar, as they try to encode the forbidden
characters into something not forbidden.
they both use the same method: replacing the forbidden characters with a
hex-representation.

now the good news is, that if your object name only falls into one
category, then you only need to deal with that part.

the part of the hexloader implementation that is built into Pd, only
tackles the 2nd problem (function names).
since C function names are much more restrictive than file names, this
usually covers most problems (though obviously not all).

so, if you want an external that contains characters allowed on the
filesystem but forbidden as (part of) a function name, you only need to
provide a hexloadable name for the setup function, and don't have to
worry about ugly filenames that nobody understands.

furthermore, you don't even need to remember the way those hexloadable
setup function name is to be constructed. simply compile your external
into "foo.bar.pd_linux", start Pd with "-verbose" and try to instantiate
[foo.bar].
Pd will fail to load the external (as it cannot find and call the setup
function), but will display the setup name it tried to find when setting
the log-level to "all".

>> What other easy options do I have besides "_"?
> Why do you want to avoid using an underscore?

+1


gamdsr
IOhannes


[1] http://www.c4learn.com/c-programming/c-variable-nameing-rules/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename#Reserved_characters_and_words



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Re: [PD] Compiling gendy~.pd_linux

[Pagano, Patrick]

the code requires that Flext be used to create it so you basically run


Flext/build.sh pd gcc and it should spit out a working gendy~.pd_linux


i will see about an alternative gcc.


thanks for the input


Patrick


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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 11:12:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [PD] Compiling gendy~.pd_linux

Gendy looks neat, but there is no makefile or anything? Probably CMake to 
generate a makefile for the library itself, then just a modified Pd extern 
makefile (the generated library will have to be linked) will do the job.

As per your error below, it looks like you need to compile with a more or less 
modern version of gpp. CMake might relieve a lot of pain here as well. 
Basically, the code is asking to use the copy operator (operator=) to copy an 
integer into a t_word. I guess different compilers and OSs will have different 
definitions for these types, and it has to line up, or else the source code 
will need to be changed.

FWIW, the source code shouldn't do this. It is bad style to type-pun with an 
(overloaded?) operator (because you can get compiler errors!). I would report 
this directly to the author on github. He might be very interested in this.

On 10/17/2017 4:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

Hi


I am also interested in compiling gedny~.pd_linux

http://ssfrr.com/projects/gendy/

SSFRR – gendy~
ssfrr.com
gendy~ is a C++ library and external for PD and Max/ MSP to implement a variant 
of Dynamic Stochastic Synthesis, a technique developed by Iannis Xenakis.

I have successfully bootstrapped FLEXT but when i run it i get an error that is 
beyond my skill


https://pastebin.com/Mbj9xhRR


here is the error i get

I have reached out to Spencer but he's probably too busy to revisit this old 
project code but for me Xenakis is a priority for sound design :-)


please take a look!!  thanks

[https://pastebin.com/i/facebook.png]

/home/pi/Downloads/pd-0.47-1/src/m_pd.h:151:15: note: no known conversion for - 
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Re: [PD] object names with "."

[Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list]

> and how come underline works just fine?
Because Pd's loader mechanism searches for the symbol "${libname}_setup", 
where "${libname}" is the name of the library being loaded.
If you make sure that "${libname}" is drawn from the set of characters thatcan 
appear in a C function name, then users will be able to load your object 
in all the ways that Pd provides (using declare, using an absolute path name, 
etc.)
If instead you use characters that cannot appear in a C function name, you 
either limit the ways that users can load that library or require complicated 
workarounds like hexloader in order to make the library generally loadable.

> What other easy options do I have besides "_"?
Why do you want to avoid using an underscore?
-Jonathan
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[PD] object names with "."

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hi, hiow much of a nightmare is it to compile an object with "." in its
name?

something like "allpass.rev~"

do I need hexloader, do I need to create an object with a weird name like
allpasse2x0rev~ or whatever?

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Re: [PD] Compiling gendy~.pd_linux

[David Medine]

Gendy looks neat, but there is no makefile or anything? Probably CMake 
to generate a makefile for the library itself, then just a modified Pd 
extern makefile (the generated library will have to be linked) will do 
the job.


As per your error below, it looks like you need to compile with a more 
or less modern version of gpp. CMake might relieve a lot of pain here as 
well. Basically, the code is asking to use the copy operator (operator=) 
to copy an integer into a t_word. I guess different compilers and OSs 
will have different definitions for these types, and it has to line up, 
or else the source code will need to be changed.


FWIW, the source code shouldn't do this. It is bad style to type-pun 
with an (overloaded?) operator (because you can get compiler errors!). I 
would report this directly to the author on github. He might be very 
interested in this.


On 10/17/2017 4:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:


Hi


I am also interested in compiling gedny~.pd_linux

http://ssfrr.com/projects/gendy/

SSFRR – gendy~ 
ssfrr.com
gendy~ is a C++ library and external for PD and Max/ MSP to implement 
a variant of Dynamic Stochastic Synthesis, a technique developed by 
Iannis Xenakis.


I have successfully bootstrapped FLEXT but when i run it i get an 
error that is beyond my skill



https://pastebin.com/Mbj9xhRR


here is the error i get

I have reached out to Spencer but he's probably too busy to revisit 
this old project code but for me Xenakis is a priority for sound 
design :-)



please take a look!!  thanks



/home/pi/Downloads/pd-0.47-1/src/m_pd.h:151:15: note: no known 
conversion for - Pastebin.com 

pastebin.com





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/Web & Interactive Technologies/

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[PD] Compiling gendy~.pd_linux

[Pagano, Patrick]

Hi


I am also interested in compiling gedny~.pd_linux

http://ssfrr.com/projects/gendy/

SSFRR – gendy~
ssfrr.com
gendy~ is a C++ library and external for PD and Max/ MSP to implement a variant 
of Dynamic Stochastic Synthesis, a technique developed by Iannis Xenakis.

I have successfully bootstrapped FLEXT but when i run it i get an error that is 
beyond my skill


https://pastebin.com/Mbj9xhRR


here is the error i get

I have reached out to Spencer but he's probably too busy to revisit this old 
project code but for me Xenakis is a priority for sound design :-)


please take a look!!  thanks

[https://pastebin.com/i/facebook.png]

/home/pi/Downloads/pd-0.47-1/src/m_pd.h:151:15: note: no known conversion for - 
Pastebin.com
pastebin.com






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Re: [PD] object that routes bangs to different outputs like a counter?

[enrike]

I am doing *very* short introductions to PD to art students who are 
very far from being technical. In that context I noticed that the less 
connections the better. I basically provide them with ready to use 
examples and a basic understanding of how to tweak them.



I don't blame anyone having trouble to creating box and connecting them, 
but I think pd is not the right tools for someone in this situation.

there are lot's of tools and programming language available...


nothing I have checked so far does fulfil the requirements here. thats 
why I introduce to PD, but I not teach PD. I just point them into the 
tool and allow them to know the basic functions. If anyone wants to 
learn it I point into vanilla and the tutorials. I would love to be able 
to properly teach them, but it is impossible given the student's 
background, the context and the time limits


if you have some suggestion about some tool to replace PD please let me 
know.


thanks

enrike

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[PD] LV2 External for Pure Data

[Pagano, Patrick]

Is there a working external for the LV2 plugins?

I have plugin~ for Ladspa working very well and i was intrigued by the LV2 
System

Multiple Tickets and emails to one source resulted in nothing so i am hopeful 
someone on list might have some input



I would like to use it on Raspberry or Linux32 if possible


Thank you




Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A

Assistant Professor in Residence

Digital Media & Design

Web & Interactive Technologies

University of Connecticut, Stamford

(352)-226-2016
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Re: [PD] preview in Gem ? ...

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2017-10-17 13:02, oliver wrote:
> 
> "draw sprite image 100 100
> ... couldn't create"
> 
> is that a part of some external library ?

it's built into Purr Data.
it's nonexistant on Pure Data.

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Re: [PD] preview in Gem ? ...

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2017-10-17 13:02, oliver wrote:
> 
> GEM freezes and dies when the number of files read by [pix_image]
> exceeds 2048. no workaround found yet. thread 0/1 doesn't change anything.

have you created a bug report already?

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Re: [PD] preview in Gem ? ...

[oliver]

Patrice Colet wrote:

Hello,

 I've been trying to develop an interface with sys_gui where media files
are launched by clicking on a preview image, like in almost all
softwares managing media files.

 It's done by dumping pixels from gemwin to a bitmap stored in
datastructure that is designing the launching buttons of my tck-tk
interface.

 With Purr Data, there is no sys_gui but we don't need such a complex
coding to reach this end by the use of [draw] object.


"draw sprite image 100 100
... couldn't create"

is that a part of some external library ?



 In this attached example the image preview has to be stored in the hard
drive to be opened. It's a single image preview but it could be extended
to animation view.


that will probably not be possible under windows 7/64bit
(at least for me it wouldn't).

GEM freezes and dies when the number of files read by [pix_image] 
exceeds 2048. no workaround found yet. thread 0/1 doesn't change anything.


best

oliver


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