Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

I tried that too - (as in http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/z.zip) - opened "a.pd", got 
help
on [z], no problem - there must be something I'm missing...

thanks
Miller

On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 06:57:28AM +0100, Liam Goodacre wrote:
> I wasn't using the -path flag, just trying to call a help file for an 
> abstraction stored in the same directory as the parent patch is saved. So if 
> I have one folder with "parent.pd" which loads an object [abstract], stored 
> in the same folder, PD will crash if I right click on [abstract] and ask for 
> the help file (whether or not the file "abstract-help.pd" exists.)
> 
> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.
> 
> > Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 10:02:02 -0700
> > From: m...@ucsd.edu
> > To: liamg...@hotmail.com
> > CC: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> > 
> > I can't recreate this... (tried pd -path .../z, invoked an abstraction that 
> > was
> > in the subdirectory ../z, asked for help and got it.  You must be invoking
> > this differently or maybe on a different OS?)
> > 
> > cheers
> > Miller
> > 
> > On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Liam Goodacre wrote:
> > > Here's another issue: If I create an abstraction out of the relative home 
> > > directory and then call its help file, PD is crashing. It works correctly 
> > > if I specify the path (ie [folder/abstraction]). I'm still on test2, so 
> > > perhaps this has been sorted already.
> > > 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Liam Goodacre]

I wasn't using the -path flag, just trying to call a help file for an 
abstraction stored in the same directory as the parent patch is saved. So if I 
have one folder with "parent.pd" which loads an object [abstract], stored in 
the same folder, PD will crash if I right click on [abstract] and ask for the 
help file (whether or not the file "abstract-help.pd" exists.)

I'm on Ubuntu 16.04.

> Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 10:02:02 -0700
> From: m...@ucsd.edu
> To: liamg...@hotmail.com
> CC: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> 
> I can't recreate this... (tried pd -path .../z, invoked an abstraction that 
> was
> in the subdirectory ../z, asked for help and got it.  You must be invoking
> this differently or maybe on a different OS?)
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 
> On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Liam Goodacre wrote:
> > Here's another issue: If I create an abstraction out of the relative home 
> > directory and then call its help file, PD is crashing. It works correctly 
> > if I specify the path (ie [folder/abstraction]). I'm still on test2, so 
> > perhaps this has been sorted already.
> >   
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2016-05-07 19:25 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> can you get away with in real time as you hoped so?
>

well, just saying trying it as a user for my purposes, it seems to work
just fine :)
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Pd-L2ork included a clear method for delwrite~ no idea how it works or how
it addresses the issues you raised - because I just don't really know what
you're talking about :)

but anyway, here's the source code attached for you to check it out

and here is the clear method excerpt:

static void sigdelwrite_clear(t_sigdelwrite *x) {
int n = XTRASAMPS + x->x_cspace.c_n;
memset(x->x_cspace.c_vec, 0, n * sizeof(t_sample));
}

Please check it out... and say, can you get away with in real time as you
hoped so?

Cheers

2016-05-07 15:08 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :

> My problem with a "clear" method for delwrite~ is that it takes a
> data-dependent
> amount of time to carry out.  OTOH, there's a way to clear arrays.  Some
> thinking is needed to figure out how to clearly distinguish between
> operations
> that are best carried out at "startup time" (whatever that means) and
> things
> that one can get away with in real time.  I haven't figured out how to
> deal with this yet.
>
> cheers
> M
>
> On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 12:19:02AM -0400, Jaime Oliver wrote:
> > +1 on clear method for delwrite~
> > I have those forgotten snippets as a feature now and count on them, but
> it would be good for them to be optional.
> > best,
> >
> > J
> > > On May 5, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 2016-05-05 23:55 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette >:
> > > almost ready to put out 0.47-0 for real :)
> > >
> > > Awesome. I'd still have a couple of minor feature requests that I'd
> consider fair for this release so I'll insist on them; but I get it if you
> just wanna release it out for good - or if you have any thoughts against
> this or other issues, please share.
> > >
> > > First: bringing back the paf~ external. I looked it up in the earlier
> releases and found the source from where it was last available (around 0.36
> I guess). Here it is attached so you don't need to look for it. It kinda
> bother me that in the pd examples you mention it but it's not there, so if
> you decide to not bring it back, maybe remove this mention in
> F13.paf.control - but checking the source, seems like a fine code to go to
> waste :)
> > >
> > > Second: Add a clear method message to [delwrite~] so it clears its
> buffer - this would be extremely useful when implementing some feedback
> reverberators and not that much work on the code.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Alex
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/* Copyright (c) 1997-1999 Miller Puckette.
* For information on usage and redistribution, and for a DISCLAIMER OF ALL
* WARRANTIES, see the file, "LICENSE.txt," in this distribution.  */

/*  send~, delread~, throw~, catch~ */

#include "m_pd.h"
#include 
extern int ugen_getsortno(void);

#define DEFDELVS 64 /* LATER get this from canvas at DSP time */

/* - delwrite~ - */
static t_class *sigdelwrite_class;

typedef struct delwritectl
{
int c_n;
t_sample *c_vec;
int c_phase;
} t_delwritectl;

typedef struct _sigdelwrite
{
t_object x_obj;
t_symbol *x_sym;
t_delwritectl x_cspace;
int x_sortno;   /* DSP sort number at which this was last put on chain */
int x_rsortno;  /* DSP sort # for first delread or write in chain */
int x_vecsize;  /* vector size for delread~ to use */
t_float x_f;
} t_sigdelwrite;

#define XTRASAMPS 4
#define SAMPBLK 4

/* routine to check that all delwrites/delreads/vds have same vecsize */
static void sigdelwrite_checkvecsize(t_sigdelwrite *x, int vecsize)
{
if (x->x_rsortno != ugen_getsortno())
{
x->x_vecsize = vecsize;
x->x_rsortno = ugen_getsortno();
}
/*
LATER this should really check sample rate and blocking, once that is
supported.  Probably we don't actually care about vecsize.
For now just suppress this check. */
#if 0
else if (vecsize != x->x_vecsize)
pd_error(x, "delread/delwrite/vd vector size mismatch");
#endif
}

#include 

static void *sigdelwrite_new(t_symbol *s, t_floatarg msec)
{
int nsamps;
t_sigdelwrite *x = (t_sigdelwrite *)pd_new(sigdelwrite_class);
if (!*s->s_name) s = gensym("delwrite~");
pd_bind(>x_obj.ob_pd, s);
x->x_sym = s;
if (msec == 0) msec = 1000;
nsamps = msec * sys_getsr() * (t_float)(0.001f);
if (nsamps < 1) nsamps = 1;
nsamps += ((- nsamps) & (SAMPBLK - 1));
nsamps += DEFDELVS;
x->x_cspace.c_n = nsamps;
x->x_cspace.c_vec =
(t_sample *)getbytes((nsamps + XTRASAMPS) * sizeof(t_sample));
x->x_cspace.c_phase = XTRASAMPS;

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

My problem with a "clear" method for delwrite~ is that it takes a data-dependent
amount of time to carry out.  OTOH, there's a way to clear arrays.  Some
thinking is needed to figure out how to clearly distinguish between operations
that are best carried out at "startup time" (whatever that means) and things
that one can get away with in real time.  I haven't figured out how to
deal with this yet.

cheers
M

On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 12:19:02AM -0400, Jaime Oliver wrote:
> +1 on clear method for delwrite~
> I have those forgotten snippets as a feature now and count on them, but it 
> would be good for them to be optional.
> best,
> 
> J
> > On May 5, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 2016-05-05 23:55 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette  > >:
> > almost ready to put out 0.47-0 for real :)
> > 
> > Awesome. I'd still have a couple of minor feature requests that I'd 
> > consider fair for this release so I'll insist on them; but I get it if you 
> > just wanna release it out for good - or if you have any thoughts against 
> > this or other issues, please share.
> > 
> > First: bringing back the paf~ external. I looked it up in the earlier 
> > releases and found the source from where it was last available (around 0.36 
> > I guess). Here it is attached so you don't need to look for it. It kinda 
> > bother me that in the pd examples you mention it but it's not there, so if 
> > you decide to not bring it back, maybe remove this mention in 
> > F13.paf.control - but checking the source, seems like a fine code to go to 
> > waste :)
> > 
> > Second: Add a clear method message to [delwrite~] so it clears its buffer - 
> > this would be extremely useful when implementing some feedback 
> > reverberators and not that much work on the code.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Alex
> > 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

I believe its main problem is jst that it's inefficient, not that it gives
stack overflows... I added a comment about that.  I want to fix "list" so that
this can run in linear time but haven't done that yet :)

M

On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 06:12:56PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> Also, the serializer example in the [list] help patch is a bit dangerous, 
> because the recursion will easily cause a stack overflow for longer lists 
> :-). Maybe make a second serializer example with the iterative approach 
> (although not linear in time either) could be added? Plus a hint to 
> [list-drip] or [drip] as long as the problem with deep copies is not fixed?
> 
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 06. Mai 2016 um 18:01 Uhr
> > Von: "Christof Ressi" <christof.re...@gmx.at>
> > An: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> > Cc: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-l...@iem.at>
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> >
> > Hi Miller,
> > 
> > I just discovered another minor bug.
> > 
> > In the help patch for [list] it says:
> > 
> > "In general, inlets that take lists (two each for append/prepend, and one 
> > each for split and trim) will convert non-list messages (such as "set 5") 
> > to lists (such as "list set 5" automatically.)"
> > 
> > The recently added [list fromsymbol] and [list tosymbol] objects don't 
> > comply with this rule yet, as they will complain if you pass them non-list 
> > messages.
> > 
> > Christof
> > 
> > 
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 06. Mai 2016 um 04:55 Uhr
> > > Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> > > An: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <por...@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-l...@iem.at>
> > > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> > >
> > > I think it's fixed now... almost ready to put out 0.47-0 for real :)
> > > 
> > > cheers
> > > Miller
> > > On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 11:16:46PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > > > I was calling [clone]'s help from "help-intro.pd" and it crashed, tried 
> > > > it
> > > > a few more times and crashed again (but not always)
> > > > 
> > > > I had complained about this first and then it seemed it had been fixed, 
> > > > but
> > > > not quite yet i guess
> > > > 
> > > > cheers
> > > > 
> > > > 2016-05-04 18:11 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu>:
> > > > 
> > > > > Yep - confirmed and I believe fixed.  Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > M
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 02:28:46PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > > > > > I'm having crashes again with opening help patches (Win 7 binaries).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not 100% reliable, but 'works' most of the time:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Start Pd
> > > > > > 2) make a new canvas
> > > > > > 3) right click into emtpy canvas -> help (opening help-intro.pd)
> > > > > > 4) close help-intro.pd
> > > > > > 5) create empty [clone] object
> > > > > > 6) right click on [clone] -> help
> > > > > > ... Pd hangs and WerFault.exe pops up
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christof
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2016 um 07:04 Uhr
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> > > > > > > Betreff: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry for the noise -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded 
> > > > > > > test4
> > > > > > > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > > Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

I can't recreate this... (tried pd -path .../z, invoked an abstraction that was
in the subdirectory ../z, asked for help and got it.  You must be invoking
this differently or maybe on a different OS?)

cheers
Miller

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> Here's another issue: If I create an abstraction out of the relative home 
> directory and then call its help file, PD is crashing. It works correctly if 
> I specify the path (ie [folder/abstraction]). I'm still on test2, so perhaps 
> this has been sorted already.
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2016-05-07 4:30 GMT-03:00 Liam Goodacre :

> Also, I'm not finding any help file for [clip]. Has this already been
> reported?
>

it has, and it's already included in 0.47
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

Yep, the "DSP" button now resizes accorging to the Pd window's font size
(before it was a fixed size).  That's so that people with very high resolution
screens can see it.

cheers
Miller
On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 01:53:43AM -0700, Derek Kwan wrote:
> > Sorry for the noise -
> > 
> > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> > 
> > cheers
> > Miller
> > 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not sure if it matters all that much but "DSP" in the Pd window next
> to the checkbox is different from previous versions. It's of a smaller
> font and not bolded. I've actually been using that to tell the
> difference between your test I compiled from source and the older
> apt-get installed one =P. I like it better the old way (always helpful
> when things are easier to read) but it's no huge deal if you feel
> strongly otherwise.
> 
> Also, in terms of the file prompts for openpanel/savepanel/open/save, is
> it possible to have a "Create New Folder" button? Also, a detailed list
> view option (name/size/type/date) would be nice at some point but it sounds
> like a whole lot more work and it's not exactly something I've been
> absolutely dying without... but the new folder button would be nice =).
> Thanks for all your hard work!
> 
> Derek
> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Christof Ressi]

Also, the serializer example in the [list] help patch is a bit dangerous, 
because the recursion will easily cause a stack overflow for longer lists :-). 
Maybe make a second serializer example with the iterative approach (although 
not linear in time either) could be added? Plus a hint to [list-drip] or [drip] 
as long as the problem with deep copies is not fixed?

> Gesendet: Freitag, 06. Mai 2016 um 18:01 Uhr
> Von: "Christof Ressi" <christof.re...@gmx.at>
> An: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-l...@iem.at>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
>
> Hi Miller,
> 
> I just discovered another minor bug.
> 
> In the help patch for [list] it says:
> 
> "In general, inlets that take lists (two each for append/prepend, and one 
> each for split and trim) will convert non-list messages (such as "set 5") to 
> lists (such as "list set 5" automatically.)"
> 
> The recently added [list fromsymbol] and [list tosymbol] objects don't comply 
> with this rule yet, as they will complain if you pass them non-list messages.
> 
> Christof
> 
> 
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 06. Mai 2016 um 04:55 Uhr
> > Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> > An: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <por...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-l...@iem.at>
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> >
> > I think it's fixed now... almost ready to put out 0.47-0 for real :)
> > 
> > cheers
> > Miller
> > On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 11:16:46PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > > I was calling [clone]'s help from "help-intro.pd" and it crashed, tried it
> > > a few more times and crashed again (but not always)
> > > 
> > > I had complained about this first and then it seemed it had been fixed, 
> > > but
> > > not quite yet i guess
> > > 
> > > cheers
> > > 
> > > 2016-05-04 18:11 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu>:
> > > 
> > > > Yep - confirmed and I believe fixed.  Thanks
> > > >
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 02:28:46PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > > > > I'm having crashes again with opening help patches (Win 7 binaries).
> > > > >
> > > > > Not 100% reliable, but 'works' most of the time:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Start Pd
> > > > > 2) make a new canvas
> > > > > 3) right click into emtpy canvas -> help (opening help-intro.pd)
> > > > > 4) close help-intro.pd
> > > > > 5) create empty [clone] object
> > > > > 6) right click on [clone] -> help
> > > > > ... Pd hangs and WerFault.exe pops up
> > > > >
> > > > > Christof
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2016 um 07:04 Uhr
> > > > > > Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> > > > > > An: pd-annou...@iem.at
> > > > > > Betreff: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry for the noise -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded 
> > > > > > test4
> > > > > > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Christof Ressi]

Hi Miller,

I just discovered another minor bug.

In the help patch for [list] it says:

"In general, inlets that take lists (two each for append/prepend, and one each 
for split and trim) will convert non-list messages (such as "set 5") to lists 
(such as "list set 5" automatically.)"

The recently added [list fromsymbol] and [list tosymbol] objects don't comply 
with this rule yet, as they will complain if you pass them non-list messages.

Christof


> Gesendet: Freitag, 06. Mai 2016 um 04:55 Uhr
> Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> An: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <por...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-l...@iem.at>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
>
> I think it's fixed now... almost ready to put out 0.47-0 for real :)
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 11:16:46PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > I was calling [clone]'s help from "help-intro.pd" and it crashed, tried it
> > a few more times and crashed again (but not always)
> > 
> > I had complained about this first and then it seemed it had been fixed, but
> > not quite yet i guess
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > 2016-05-04 18:11 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu>:
> > 
> > > Yep - confirmed and I believe fixed.  Thanks
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 02:28:46PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > > > I'm having crashes again with opening help patches (Win 7 binaries).
> > > >
> > > > Not 100% reliable, but 'works' most of the time:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Start Pd
> > > > 2) make a new canvas
> > > > 3) right click into emtpy canvas -> help (opening help-intro.pd)
> > > > 4) close help-intro.pd
> > > > 5) create empty [clone] object
> > > > 6) right click on [clone] -> help
> > > > ... Pd hangs and WerFault.exe pops up
> > > >
> > > > Christof
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2016 um 07:04 Uhr
> > > > > Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> > > > > An: pd-annou...@iem.at
> > > > > Betreff: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for the noise -
> > > > >
> > > > > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> > > > > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
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[Derek Kwan]

> Sorry for the noise -
> 
> I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 

Hello,

I'm not sure if it matters all that much but "DSP" in the Pd window next
to the checkbox is different from previous versions. It's of a smaller
font and not bolded. I've actually been using that to tell the
difference between your test I compiled from source and the older
apt-get installed one =P. I like it better the old way (always helpful
when things are easier to read) but it's no huge deal if you feel
strongly otherwise.

Also, in terms of the file prompts for openpanel/savepanel/open/save, is
it possible to have a "Create New Folder" button? Also, a detailed list
view option (name/size/type/date) would be nice at some point but it sounds
like a whole lot more work and it's not exactly something I've been
absolutely dying without... but the new folder button would be nice =).
Thanks for all your hard work!

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Jaime Oliver]

+1 on clear method for delwrite~
I have those forgotten snippets as a feature now and count on them, but it 
would be good for them to be optional.
best,

J
> On May 5, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres  wrote:
> 
> 2016-05-05 23:55 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette  >:
> almost ready to put out 0.47-0 for real :)
> 
> Awesome. I'd still have a couple of minor feature requests that I'd consider 
> fair for this release so I'll insist on them; but I get it if you just wanna 
> release it out for good - or if you have any thoughts against this or other 
> issues, please share.
> 
> First: bringing back the paf~ external. I looked it up in the earlier 
> releases and found the source from where it was last available (around 0.36 I 
> guess). Here it is attached so you don't need to look for it. It kinda bother 
> me that in the pd examples you mention it but it's not there, so if you 
> decide to not bring it back, maybe remove this mention in F13.paf.control - 
> but checking the source, seems like a fine code to go to waste :)
> 
> Second: Add a clear method message to [delwrite~] so it clears its buffer - 
> this would be extremely useful when implementing some feedback reverberators 
> and not that much work on the code.
> 
> Thanks
> Alex
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

I think it's fixed now... almost ready to put out 0.47-0 for real :)

cheers
Miller
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 11:16:46PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> I was calling [clone]'s help from "help-intro.pd" and it crashed, tried it
> a few more times and crashed again (but not always)
> 
> I had complained about this first and then it seemed it had been fixed, but
> not quite yet i guess
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2016-05-04 18:11 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette <m...@ucsd.edu>:
> 
> > Yep - confirmed and I believe fixed.  Thanks
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 02:28:46PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > > I'm having crashes again with opening help patches (Win 7 binaries).
> > >
> > > Not 100% reliable, but 'works' most of the time:
> > >
> > > 1) Start Pd
> > > 2) make a new canvas
> > > 3) right click into emtpy canvas -> help (opening help-intro.pd)
> > > 4) close help-intro.pd
> > > 5) create empty [clone] object
> > > 6) right click on [clone] -> help
> > > ... Pd hangs and WerFault.exe pops up
> > >
> > > Christof
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2016 um 07:04 Uhr
> > > > Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> > > > An: pd-annou...@iem.at
> > > > Betreff: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the noise -
> > > >
> > > > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> > > > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

Yep - confirmed and I believe fixed.  Thanks

M

On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 02:28:46PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
> I'm having crashes again with opening help patches (Win 7 binaries).
> 
> Not 100% reliable, but 'works' most of the time:
> 
> 1) Start Pd
> 2) make a new canvas
> 3) right click into emtpy canvas -> help (opening help-intro.pd)
> 4) close help-intro.pd
> 5) create empty [clone] object
> 6) right click on [clone] -> help
> ... Pd hangs and WerFault.exe pops up
> 
> Christof
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2016 um 07:04 Uhr
> > Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> > An: pd-annou...@iem.at
> > Betreff: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now
> >
> > Sorry for the noise -
> > 
> > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> > 
> > cheers
> > Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2016-05-04 0:43 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> [q8_sqrt~] & [q8_rsqrt~] will call the halp files of [sqrt~] & [rsqrt~]
> respectively, but there is no mention to these objects in the help files -
> seems all you have to do is mention them as well in it saying they are (and
> how they are) cheaper and less accurate versions.
>

Oops, I see there's no [rsqrt~] object listed in the "help-intro.pd" file,
just [q8_sqrt~], [q8_rsqrt~] & [sqrt~]; so please just add it there too
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

anyway, since some updates to the documentation have been happening - and
since I care a lot about documentation - i've been searching for more
things to point out. Here's a few more I ran accross:

there is no help file for:

[serial]

[loadbang] - I'm attaching one help file from old extended

[q8_sqrt~] & [q8_rsqrt~] will call the halp files of [sqrt~] & [rsqrt~]
respectively, but there is no mention to these objects in the help files -
seems all you have to do is mention them as well in it saying they are (and
how they are) cheaper and less accurate versions.

I'll see if I can still find something more ;)

cheers





2016-05-04 0:32 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

>
>
> 2016-05-03 23:06 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :
>
>> OK... I think this is now fixed (just hoping it doesn't make for new
>> bugs :)
>>
>
> Awesome, I'll gladly test it out ;)
>
> > Thanks for being awesome and making something awesome
>
> +1
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2016-05-03 23:06 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :

> OK... I think this is now fixed (just hoping it doesn't make for new
> bugs :)
>

Awesome, I'll gladly test it out ;)

> Thanks for being awesome and making something awesome

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

#1 is a longstanding bug - there are much worse bugs out there so I haven't
go tto this one yet :)

cheers
Miller
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 02:30:46PM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
> Hi Miller,
> 
> Thanks for being awesome and making something awesome
> 
> Not sure these are bugs (or if it matters even with the first one)
> 
> 1) When I make a new doc and save it to hard drive with default title (ex.
> Untitled-1.pd) it saves to drive fine. NOW if I hit CMD+S (osx) or in the
> file menu File->Save I get the "Save As" dialog so rather and save
> changes to Untitled-1.pd I get a dialog
> 
> 2) I noticed in [makefilename] that one is supposed to be able to do
> "N-Tuple" substitutions. I remember in the last version that if I did
> [makefilename %s%%s%%%s] pd would crash. This version (maybe something
> changed IDK) I am only allowed to do double substitutions (%s%%s) but not
> "N-Tuple". If I do for example [makefilename %s%%s%%%s] the %%%s is
> replaced with 000
> 
> maybe i am just using [makefilename] in this was wrong but it seems this
> this is the idea from the docs.
> 
> attached is my test patch for clarification.
> 
> cheers
> m
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for the noise -
> >
> > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> >
> > cheers
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

OK... I think this is now fixed (just hoping it doesn't make for new
bugs :)

Miller

On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 02:44:52AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> I guess you sent this update as soon as I started writing an email about
> this delay bug :)
> 
> anyway, trying the object on this release confirms that the bug i pointed (
> https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1217/ ) still exists.
> 
> I'm now trying delread~ and finding that it has similar issues, i added an
> example patch to that issue thread - also attached here
> 
> moreover, i guess you can update the help file of delread~ too, so you
> refer to the new [delread4~] object name instead of the now "old" [vd~] in
> the "see also".
> 
> cheers
> 
> 2016-05-02 2:04 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :
> 
> > Sorry for the noise -
> >
> > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[me.grimm]

yes i see you are right. see attached.

maybe just a help file update for clarity

m

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen 
wrote:

> On 03/05/16 19:30, me.grimm wrote:
>
>> for example [makefilename %s%%s%%%s] the %%%s is
>> replaced with 000
>>
>
> I'm guessing %%%s is parsed as %% %s, and that you really need s to
> get %% %% s which becomes % % s (aka %% s) which finally becomes %s?
>
> See also: https://www.xkcd.com/1638/
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[Claude Heiland-Allen]

On 03/05/16 19:30, me.grimm wrote:

for example [makefilename %s%%s%%%s] the %%%s is
replaced with 000


I'm guessing %%%s is parsed as %% %s, and that you really need s to 
get %% %% s which becomes % % s (aka %% s) which finally becomes %s?


See also: https://www.xkcd.com/1638/


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[me.grimm]

Hi Miller,

Thanks for being awesome and making something awesome

Not sure these are bugs (or if it matters even with the first one)

1) When I make a new doc and save it to hard drive with default title (ex.
Untitled-1.pd) it saves to drive fine. NOW if I hit CMD+S (osx) or in the
file menu File->Save I get the "Save As" dialog so rather and save
changes to Untitled-1.pd I get a dialog

2) I noticed in [makefilename] that one is supposed to be able to do
"N-Tuple" substitutions. I remember in the last version that if I did
[makefilename %s%%s%%%s] pd would crash. This version (maybe something
changed IDK) I am only allowed to do double substitutions (%s%%s) but not
"N-Tuple". If I do for example [makefilename %s%%s%%%s] the %%%s is
replaced with 000

maybe i am just using [makefilename] in this was wrong but it seems this
this is the idea from the docs.

attached is my test patch for clarification.

cheers
m



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>
> I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
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>
> cheers
> Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

just realized maybe it's not delread~ or delread4~ but an issue with
delwrite~ :) - perhaps it just doesn't create a delay line as long as it
says it does.

cheers

2016-05-02 2:44 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> I guess you sent this update as soon as I started writing an email about
> this delay bug :)
>
> anyway, trying the object on this release confirms that the bug i pointed
> ( https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1217/ ) still exists.
>
> I'm now trying delread~ and finding that it has similar issues, i added an
> example patch to that issue thread - also attached here
>
> moreover, i guess you can update the help file of delread~ too, so you
> refer to the new [delread4~] object name instead of the now "old" [vd~] in
> the "see also".
>
> cheers
>
> 2016-05-02 2:04 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :
>
>> Sorry for the noise -
>>
>> I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
>> to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

I love the metaphor.  Duplos and legos work together precisely because
of the integer ratio.

I think I do have to make some adjustments to zooming:

offer 150% zoom
fix it so that editing a zoomed patch can't get "between pixels" on the
un-zoomed version (so that save/restore works exactly; patches are saved in
the un-zoomed state)
(maybe) enlarge small windows when you zoom them, as long as the resulting
window would still fit on the screen

I think this is more than I can safely do between "test3" and "production"
so will put these off to the next version, sorry...

M

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> Hello, 
> 
> Is it possible to have a finer-grained zoom? 
> 
> Forgive the toy metaphors, but at least on my setup (Ubuntu
> Studio/basically Xubuntu 15.10, 1920x1080 res), there's only two zoom
> levels: the regular Lego size, and the pretty huge Duplo size. Ideally
> it'd be useful to have some steps in the middle, some transitionary
> Lego/Duplo hybrid steps. Thanks!
> 
> Derek
> 
> > Sorry for the noise -
> > 
> > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> > to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> > 
> > cheers
> > Miller
> > 
> 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Derek Kwan]

Hello, 

Is it possible to have a finer-grained zoom? 

Forgive the toy metaphors, but at least on my setup (Ubuntu
Studio/basically Xubuntu 15.10, 1920x1080 res), there's only two zoom
levels: the regular Lego size, and the pretty huge Duplo size. Ideally
it'd be useful to have some steps in the middle, some transitionary
Lego/Duplo hybrid steps. Thanks!

Derek

> Sorry for the noise -
> 
> I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Christof Ressi]

I'm having crashes again with opening help patches (Win 7 binaries).

Not 100% reliable, but 'works' most of the time:

1) Start Pd
2) make a new canvas
3) right click into emtpy canvas -> help (opening help-intro.pd)
4) close help-intro.pd
5) create empty [clone] object
6) right click on [clone] -> help
... Pd hangs and WerFault.exe pops up

Christof




> Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2016 um 07:04 Uhr
> Von: "Miller Puckette" <m...@ucsd.edu>
> An: pd-annou...@iem.at
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>
> Sorry for the noise -
> 
> I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

I guess you sent this update as soon as I started writing an email about
this delay bug :)

anyway, trying the object on this release confirms that the bug i pointed (
https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1217/ ) still exists.

I'm now trying delread~ and finding that it has similar issues, i added an
example patch to that issue thread - also attached here

moreover, i guess you can update the help file of delread~ too, so you
refer to the new [delread4~] object name instead of the now "old" [vd~] in
the "see also".

cheers

2016-05-02 2:04 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :

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> I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
> to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.
>
> cheers
> Miller
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[PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

[Miller Puckette]

Sorry for the noise -

I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4
to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual.

cheers
Miller

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