Re: Constant duplication of messages....
Skip Leib wrote: > I keep getting constant duplication of messages from this list. Last > night, 1/8/00, I checked, and there were 170 messages waiting to be > opened on the list. But when I did open list I found that only about > 20 or so were new messages, the rest all older, outdated stuff. This > happens all the time on this list's mailings to me I think what > I need to do is unsubscribe, both from my subsidiary and main > addresses (I no longer know which the list manager is now using), and > then re-subscribe using only my main mail account address on the > premise that perhaps OE5 does not handle your list correctly if it is > sent to a subsidiary address...? If it will help you, I use Netscape Communicator, and have used Claris eMailer, and it is my experience that the list has always resent the mail with random delays. This causes messages from this morning to arrive late tonight. And I can rarely find the original to a recent thread, only responses. Sometimes I get a response to a query of mine own before I see evidence of having posted it. But it does not dampen my ardor! (which has cleared more than one elevator!) -- JoMac, Imagineering Head Image * I * Nation, the creative division of RMG Services NW \__/ "A fool and his money are soon parted."Now how do I get it back? This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Guide to the perplexed
SETH wrote: > > Since Chris has asked nicely, I'll try to answer. This forum is > used to discuss subjects related to Pentax photographic cameras. > Sure we can extend it to peripheral products that are made or > marketed by Pentax. But where does it end? ... 'Tis you, sir, who are perplexed, I'm afraid. This forum has become, and will most likely remain, a discussion of photography (the art, the process, the business, the home wrecker) by folks who use, collect and/or love Pentax photographic equipment. It is not a discussion of Pentax cameras by a group of museum curators. And as with any group of more than one human being, disagreements will arise, tempers will flare, minds will wander (so sayeth the king of wandering thought!). Live with it. Or, heed the list SIG if you cannot. > > I have no interest in being the "on-topic" nazi ... And yet, there you are, trying to show us that you are in fact qualified. Why? While we appreciate your feelings on the matter, and you certainly are entitled to them, bringing it up at all is an intrusion into our normal routine. And decidedly off topic, to boot! Please end said quest, relax, and absorb the nuance of the digital whisper we call, PDML... -- JoMac, Imagineering Head Image * I * Nation, the creative division of RMG Services NW \__/ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film
Take a look here for a lab willing to do it for you: http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/kiimovie.htm Cheers, Gerald - Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 6:30 PM Subject: Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film > Thanks Sask. Bill and Mark for your replies. > I'll forward the link to the guy. > Interesting stuff. > (One would have thought that their developing method would be freely available, now that they don't support it any longer and patents are long expired. Are the chemicals that difficult to figure out? Or is it technically very difficult to do?) > > Lasse > > Mark Rofini wrote: > > A guide on the web entitled "Hand Processing Kodachrome Super 8" > > may help. The URL may wrap so resurrect it as required. See: > > > > http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~ralph/process_site/kodachrome.html > > > > Mark Rofini > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: About the Pentax 67 system...
In a message dated 1/8/01 6:31:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "this kinda rules out use of flash fill, doesn't it? anyone have any comments on this?" Fill flash (especially with the AT400T broomhandle) works at 1/30th sec. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Snap-in Focus w/(P)Z-1p (was Compatibility table)
To be honest, it does mention it on page 2 right after the list of all the various LCD display symbols... Cheers, Jeff > -Original Message- > From: David A. Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Snap-in Focus w/(P)Z-1p (was Compatibility table) > > > Joseph McAllister writes: > > > Yeah, but with the cable release you can lock it and walk > away to shoo your > > subject into the frame or walk into the photo yourself. > I've never tried it with > > the shutter button, so I don't know. > > That's true; I was merely discrediting what the manual > suggests. The > wording implies that the cable switch is necessary. > > > > Which PF settings were lost? > > > > One was the metering pattern, which was transferred to the > button on the back > > because it was so popular. Others were changed, or > transferred to the Mode dial. > > A comparison chart: (fixed width font needed here, and no > wrap limits) > [etc] > > That's very interesting. I'm really glad they shifted the > metering pattern to a > separate button as I use it extensively. They even put it in > the right place! > > > Another evening shot to hell... Enjoy this and save it forever! > > I sure will save it. Thanks :) > > > Another way to do your trap focus with the (P)Z-1 would be > to use the Image Size > > tracking Mode with focus mode switch in Single, PF-18 to > '0', and guess what? > > The camera will fire when the subject comes into focus! > Maybe time to pick up a > > used (P)Z-1! A manual read tells me the (P)Z-1p will not do this. > > Bah... The shop has a Z-1 on the shelf but I don't want to > pay that much for > just one extra feature! I've got too many 35mm bodies as it is. > > After looking at some of my first slides from it last night, > I've decided that > the panorama mode is indeed very useful. Now I won't have to use > panoramic slide mounts! > > > Actually, the manual says that fast moving objects "may not > have focus" in "Snap > > Focus" "Single Mode." > > Are you reading from the Z-1 manual? My (photocopied) Z-1p manual > doesn't mention this. I suspected it anyway, so when I'm > using snap/trap > focus, I focus the lens quite slowly. Now my impression of my cheap > 400mm lens has improved as I'm actually able to focus it properly :) > > Does the Z-1 manual mention a backlight on the LCD? I don't > think my Z-1p > manual mentions it. I discovered it by accident when my > thumb was off- > target and pressed both the exposure compensation and > metering-pattern > buttons together, and the display lit up. > > Cheers, > > > - Dave > > David A. Mann, B.E. > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ > > "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, > while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To > unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: MZ-5N discontinued?
No download attachment received here. Maris - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Re: MZ-5N discontinued? | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | << Why would anyone outside the US buy a MZ-5n when they could buy a MZ-3? | All Pentax needs to do is market the MZ-3 in the US. No new model needed. >> | | | Kevin, | | You got a computer virus or something? You keep on sending download | attachments with each of your messages. | | Regards, Bob S. | | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. | Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org | | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Pentax SMC Filters Get Kudos
In a message dated 1/8/01 6:24:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "but I agree that he should publish data to back up his bold statements." No one here doubts that the SMC coating (and Ghostless) isn't the best in the world. Why then should we doubt that PENTAX coated filters don't meet the same vaunted criteria? I own two PENTAX filters and a host of Hoya HMC filters, which our reviewer seemed to loath (by excluding them). Given a $ for $ comparison, I think Hoya HMC are the best (screw-in) filters. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pentax SMC Filters Get Kudos
Pentax filters are fairly difficult to find in the shops here in the US as well, and they do not seem top be standard stock items at many of the mail order places either. Pentax filters occasionally appear on KEH. Usually it is the basic UV or skylights, non-SMC in 49 or 52mm thread. I've picked up a few of these skylights to use, generally for about $5 a piece. However, the SMC versions come along every now and then, you just have to keep looking. I managed to get two SMC filters about tow weeks ago, both skylights, one in 49mm and the other in 72mm, for a grand total of $25.95 with standard ground shipping. Though, shipping the to the UK may cost more than the price of a filter... John - Original Message - From: "Bob Walkden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Pentax SMC Filters Get Kudos > Pentax filters are really difficult to find in the UK. I don't think > I've ever seen a shop that has them in stock, and I've never seen them > advertised. The only reference to them I've ever seen on any official > publication is in the Lenses & Accessories brochures. So telling > people in the UK that Pentax filters are the best is rather like > telling us always to bet on the unicorn. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
RE: Scanner Choice?
Hi! I've been reading the list for the past couple weeks and felt I should reply to this post since I have found new information on scanners. I recently purchased a fairly cheap scanner, a Plustek OpticPro 9636T which has the transparency/negative function built into it. It is the only one in it's price range that had this function, I only paid $100 Canadian for it. As far as scanning prints, it is comparable to a run of the mill Umax home scanner. BUT, for negatives, it leaves much to be desired. Since I only need photos for the web,it will keep my costs down. I want to process large amounts of film and I don't desire the prints (wish I could afford digital right now). After much reading, I learned that one's best bet for negative scanning is a dedicated film scanner, and better yet, one that costs well over $500. If you want great results from a scanner, you have to put up the cash. If you just want something quick and dirty, something like the Plustek will do it...but not as well as scanning the prints. It made perfect sense after I saw it in actionit takes me a while to get the image right in PhotoShop... Check out www.scantips.com , they have a small section on film scanners and it may produce some answers for a buyer. There is also a table of film scanners (don't know how old it is) located at http://www.scantips.com/basic13f.html , and may help the buying process as well. As far as testing...well, I've had a hard time finding the samego figure. That's what I know so far. Geordie Clarke This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: female idea?
SOUNDS INTERESTING... VOLUNTEERS? Roberto Burgos S. - Original Message - From: jeepgirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: female idea? > why don't we have a PDML chat room? > som > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: GF Mtn Nature Weekend
One of my Christmas presents was last year's sunset photo, which my wife had framed. It is now hanging over my mantle. For anyone curious, I have a similar shot on my space at http://www.alphoto.com/dbatgfm.JPG I'm sure Mr. Morton would not mind me showing off his handiwork. It can indeed become chilly on the mountain in June. Be prepared. Doug At 9:22 PM -05001/7/01, Bill Owens caused thus to appear: > >You don't know Doug evidently. Have him tell you about last year's sunset >photo. > >I'll definitely be camping and there will surely be a few others camping in >the picnic area. Be sure to bring some warm clothes as the temperature at >this elevation can be quite cool even in early June. > >Bill -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: MZ-5N discontinued?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Why would anyone outside the US buy a MZ-5n when they could buy a MZ-3? All Pentax needs to do is market the MZ-3 in the US. No new model needed. >> Kevin, You got a computer virus or something? You keep on sending download attachments with each of your messages. Regards, Bob S. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Excessive arrogance and trolling (Was: Help on digital fornewsprint)
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, SETH wrote: > And in my opinion, Len is showing incredible amount of common sense > that is often so severely lacking. After all this is PDML > (pentax-discuss mailing list, not VDML (verbal-diarrhea mailing list). Neither you nor Len seem to realize that Pentax makes digital cameras. Hello I repeat my earlier point: if someone asked us for recommendations or a rough price range for 35mm film cameras for a particular purpose, we'd either help them out, or (at the least) suggest some Pentax models that might do the trick. Why not do the same with digital cameras, since Pentax makes them, too? Give me one good answer to that. chris This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Re: MZ-5N discontinued?
I would like agree with this. ToddEStan said: >6. The replacement for the MZ-5n is the MZ-3. Pentax plans on discounting >it some so the price is closer to the MZ-5n, and they will finally start >importing it to the US as the ZX-3. > >Todd > Y.P.Wan [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: female idea?
yes I am When I remember to turn it on. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
RE: female idea?
why don't we have a PDML chat room? som --- why not use our (The Penta Magazine) "Common Forum" for it? http://www.mtu-net.ru/penta/forum/forum_index.htm you can write on English or any other language and meet Pentaxians around the world, not only PDMLers... Chat will be in new version of our web site. Den This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: About the Pentax 67 system...
- Original Message - From: "bc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: About the Pentax 67 system... > I too have been looking into MF systems lately, having tried > Bronica 6 x 4.5and Mamiya 6 x 7 systems.. My requirements is > a camera that can be used handheld both in the studio and on > location, as I do a lot of theatrical promos tht require shooting > while the show is going on (dress rehearsals). Also want > something that is fairly versatile in the studio, but > > Any comments on the 1/30s flash sync limit? With only one lens > in the system sporting a leaf shutter that can sync higher, this > kinda rules out use of flash fill, doesn't it? anyone have any > comments on this? The criteria you give would seem ideal for the 6x7. It is fairly easily handheld (I would still put at least a monopod under it if possible, and if you are shooting indoors, the slow sync speed presents no problems. It is only outdoors, when you are competing with sunlight that the slow speed is a bother. Even then, moving the subject into the shade, or using a reflector instead of flash makes the problem moot. The 6x7 has been an excellent performer in the studio for me, and several noteworthy studio photographers use the 6x7. (I am not one of the noteworthy ones, unfortunately) William Robb > > Cheers! > Brian This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
RE: MZ-5N discontinued?
Why would anyone outside the US buy a MZ-5n when they could buy a MZ-3? All Pentax needs to do is market the MZ-3 in the US. No new model needed. -Original Message- From: Ed Mathews [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: MZ-5N discontinued? It seems absurd to me that Pentax would discontinue this camera without something for this segment, so I don't think that will happen. Which means, either: 1) The new MZ-S will be a LOT cheaper than we initially thought (unlikely). Or, 2) There is a new model yet to be released that is coming soon, with some upgrades to fit it between the MZ5N and the MZ-S (quite possible). Or, 3) Some of the new parts from the MZ-S will find their way into the MZ5N, and it will become the MZ5N Super (possible). Or, 4) Pentax is now marketing strictly to pros and novices - nothing in between (very unlikely). Or, 5) Someone was misinformed (quite possible). Feel free to add other possibilities I may have overlooked. In any case, I wouldn't fret over it's demise. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Robert VanNatta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: Re: MZ-5N discontinued? > > > It is always possible that they might just rework it a little and add a couple more features > as they did when the ZX-5 was discontinued in favor of the ZX-5n. > > How about a mirror lockup and a 1/4000 shutter? > > Chris Ellison wrote: > > a best seller. > > > > > Could Pentax manufacture a replacement at less cost and so increase > > their profit margin? > > > > Should I start stockpiling 5n bodies? It is possibly my favourite SLR of > > all time and there does seem to be a trend towards less compatibility > > with the old lenses. > > -- > > Chris Ellison > > > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org application/ms-tnef
Re: female idea?
You still 50989801? Bill - Original Message - From: "jeepgirl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: female idea? > why don't we have a PDML chat room? > som This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film
> > > "Snowfield" Willie Robb wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately, the best you can do is to develope the film > as a > > > black and white negative. KII processing (K-14) is long > deleted, Please accept my apologies. K-14 is the modern Kodachrome process. Kodachrome II was the K-12 process. Sorry Bill This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film
Technically difficult, and the American EPA made the process illegal for environmental reasons. Since this happened something like 25 years ago before anyone really was concerned about industrial pollution (I don't think governments really got on the bandwagon until it was politically expedient), it must of been one really dirty process. The chemistry is now impossible to get, from what I gathered from a brief web search of the subject. - Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film > Thanks Sask. Bill and Mark for your replies. > I'll forward the link to the guy. > Interesting stuff. > (One would have thought that their developing method would be freely available, now that they don't support it any longer and patents are long expired. Are the chemicals that difficult to figure out? Or is it technically very difficult to do?) > > Lasse > > Mark Rofini wrote: > > A guide on the web entitled "Hand Processing Kodachrome Super 8" > > may help. The URL may wrap so resurrect it as required. See: > > > > http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~ralph/process_site/kodachrome.html > > > > Mark Rofini > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome: Fujichrome?
- Original Message - From: "bc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome: Fujichrome? > > > On 8 Jan 2001, at 14:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. When I asked a photo > > teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he never heard of it, and he told > > me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and it says Cibachrome is a > > proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same thing? What are the differences? > > You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? Thanks in advance. > > > > And then again, what's the diff between Ilfochrome and Fujichrome? Ilfochrome is a dye destruction process, whereby all three colour layers are at 100% saturation prior to exposure, and as the material is processed, the colour dyes that are not image forming are removed from the emulsion. This is the reason for why Ilfochromes have such startling saturation and vibrant colour. Fujichrome material is a conventional reversal process with the dyes coupled to the image layer by development action. > > The lab I deal with does Fujichrome prints, and they look pretty > damn good. Is it the same process? Nope. Fujichrome prints are made with a process that is remarkably similar to E-6/CR56 film processing. Personally, I prefer the look of these papers over Ilfochrome. I guess that makes me a heretic. William (burn him, he's evil) Robb > > Brian This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Reverse Rings & Mating Lenses
Hi, I own a Minolta XD-7 & a Pentax P30. A good samiritan now a good friend) offered me free a Minolta mount with an external step of dia 42mm(pitch of 0.75mm). I got an adapter manufactured to suit the the external threaded step and provided a mating thread for my Pentax P30 on the other side of the adapter(thickness around 10mm). This enables me to mate Minolta (when reversed) with Pentax lens. Back to face & face to face also for the two lenses. With the mfd. adapter fitted on to camera lenses, the focusing range falls down dramatically to within 1 inch! If I use only a reversing ring the range is around 3 inches (a distance where I get a clear & sharp picture). I have got a few questions to ask. 1. What will be magnification achieved in points? 2. What are the merits of using a contraption like this in the respective fittings? 3. How to calculate the aperture & shutter readings? 4. Without a Tripod,will a faster film reduce shake? Thanks in advance Satish Kumar Madras/India _ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
female idea?
why don't we have a PDML chat room? som This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Photo Safari
I think I have caught it a couple of times on Saturday or Sunday at 6:00am EST. Kind of corny... Would love to see a show done like some of the other hobby shows... A segment on history, pne with an interview, one on technique, and one on technology... Of course I am not taking into account the majority's 15 second attention span... ;) l8r, Douglas E Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film
Thanks Sask. Bill and Mark for your replies. I'll forward the link to the guy. Interesting stuff. (One would have thought that their developing method would be freely available, now that they don't support it any longer and patents are long expired. Are the chemicals that difficult to figure out? Or is it technically very difficult to do?) Lasse Mark Rofini wrote: > A guide on the web entitled "Hand Processing Kodachrome Super 8" > may help. The URL may wrap so resurrect it as required. See: > > http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~ralph/process_site/kodachrome.html > > Mark Rofini This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
About the Pentax 67 system...
I too have been looking into MF systems lately, having tried Bronica 6 x 4.5and Mamiya 6 x 7 systems.. My requirements is a camera that can be used handheld both in the studio and on location, as I do a lot of theatrical promos tht require shooting while the show is going on (dress rehearsals). Also want something that is fairly versatile in the studio, but Any comments on the 1/30s flash sync limit? With only one lens in the system sporting a leaf shutter that can sync higher, this kinda rules out use of flash fill, doesn't it? anyone have any comments on this? Cheers! Brian This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Pentax SMC Filters Get Kudos
Bob Walkden wrote: > Hi, > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Just came across this and thought it might interest some > > people on the list, for whatever reason: > > > http://www.nd.edu/~sborman/personal/photo/filters.html > > > I suppose it'll make everybody feel flattered to have Pentax filters, > but the reviewer doesn't really provide us with any way to evaluate > his judgement. Perhaps he's a psycopath with a Pentax obsession, or > the head of Pentax filters division or something. Perhaps he knows > that Pentax filters ruin all photographs, so he's recommending them to > his enemies and competitors. To paraphrase somebody's sig file 'who is he > that we should believe anything he tells us?'. > > Pentax filters are really difficult to find in the UK. I don't think > I've ever seen a shop that has them in stock, and I've never seen them > advertised. The only reference to them I've ever seen on any official > publication is in the Lenses & Accessories brochures. So telling > people in the UK that Pentax filters are the best is rather like > telling us always to bet on the unicorn. > > :o( > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > Go up a couple of levels to find out who he is: http://www.nd.edu/~sborman/ He might have source data for his statements but I agree that he should publish data to back up his bold statements. David S. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome: Fujichrome?
On 8 Jan 2001, at 14:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. When I asked a photo > teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he never heard of it, and he told > me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and it says Cibachrome is a > proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same thing? What are the differences? > You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? Thanks in advance. > And then again, what's the diff between Ilfochrome and Fujichrome? The lab I deal with does Fujichrome prints, and they look pretty damn good. Is it the same process? Brian This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Similar question, Asahi filters, SMC or not?
Bob, I had the same problem, that's why I bought the one on e-bay :) fredd > I have a few "vintage" filters found on ebay, but I > can't seem to locate them elsewhere. Am I overlooking > the obvious here? Probably. > Cheers, > Bob This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Similar question, Asahi filters, SMC or not?
I have a few "vintage" filters found on ebay, but I can't seem to locate them elsewhere. Am I overlooking the obvious here? Probably. Cheers, Bob --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Fredd ... > > I'm just learning about Pentax filters myself, so > there's not > much that I can share with you other than to say, > from what > I've read thus far, the current crop of SMC filters > are > considered top notch. I can't say say much about > older ones > other than to mention I have a couple that are 30 > years old > that I used on my original Super Tak lenses, and > they've held > up quite well. > > Have you checked out these comments: > > http://www.nd.edu/~sborman/personal/photo/filters.html > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > fredd wrote: > > > I bought a few days ago on e-bay a filter that has > the following text : > > Asahi Pentax Japan, Polarizing filter 58mm. No > other text or markings. > > > > Can you tell/teach me anything about this filter ? > Good, no good, ect. > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow > the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at > http://pug.komkon.org > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
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JoMac wrote: > So to be frugal, Bill is going to buy Kodachrome, and process > it in D-76 to make prints on B&W paper. H??? No - I was thinking of easy b&w positives. But not very clearly, it seems!:^O Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
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Shel also sent me a message that says I'm sending in HTML. I'm using Compuserve 6.0. Any ideas? I did it again. Kyle
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Shel also sent me a message that says I'm sending in HTML. I'm using Compuserve 6.0. Any ideas?
Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film
"Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > "Snowfield" Willie Robb wrote: > > > Unfortunately, the best you can do is to develope the film as a > > black and white negative. KII processing (K-14) is long deleted, > > H - interesting. ... is this also possible w/ current > Kodachromes, or just the older process stuff? > > and if so, will the results be positives and of any quality? > > Bill No, it will be a negative. You can process, rinse, re-expose, and try some other process's bleach, but you haven't the chemicals to put dyes in to get a black where development would leave it clear. So to be frugal, Bill is going to buy Kodachrome, and process it in D-76 to make prints on B&W paper. H??? -- JoMac, Imagineering Head Image * I * Nation, the creative division of RMG Services NW \__/ "A fool and his money are soon parted."Now how do I get it back? This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film
- Original Message - From: "Bill D. Casselberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 6:34 PM Subject: Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film > "Snowfield" Willie Robb wrote: > > > Unfortunately, the best you can do is to develope the film as a > > black and white negative. KII processing (K-14) is long deleted, > > H - interesting. ... is this also possible w/ current > Kodachromes, or just the older process stuff? It should be. Kodachrome starts life as a black and white film with a few layers of dye couplers. The colour is added by Kodak when they process it. Up here in Canada, Kodachrome is sold with processing prepaid. That will male it pretty expensive black and white film if they stop supporting it. > > and if so, will the results be positives and of any quality? No, the results will be negatives, unless you can figure out a way to bleach reexpose and redevelop the stuff. Having never actually processed it this way I can't speak to the quality. It is a very fine grained film however, so it might just give a good negative. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: OT: Re: Enlarging Focusers
I think you'll like working with a 25x scope. With fine grain film, it's much easier to pick out a texture that defines "in focus." And with grainy films like TMZ, you can see the edge of the grain and really dial it in. I worked with a 10X scope for a while, and while it was not the equal of the Peak, I had a tough time seeing the kind of detail that helps determine when you're right where you want to be. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Ahh - something I wanted to hear. I'm considering the > Bestwell Microsight to supplement the Peak. > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: MX owner's manual on line
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:33:21 -0800, "Juan J. Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> I've got a PDF of the MX owner's manual on line now at >> http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm > >Excellent! Thanks a lot, Mark. Not that a manual is necessary to >operate the MX, buy it's always nice to have it. I am, at this moment, starting the scanning and OCR on the ME Super service manual. Hope to have it ready by weekend. Mark This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: MZ-5N discontinued?
I think the MZ-3 actually replaced the MZ-5N. They just continued to sell the remaining stock of MZ-5Ns and now they are running out. So what does that mean for us in the US where they never sold an XZ-3? --Tom Ed Mathews wrote: > > It seems absurd to me that Pentax would discontinue this camera without > something for this segment, so I don't think that will happen. Which means, > either: > > 1) The new MZ-S will be a LOT cheaper than we initially thought (unlikely). > Or, > 2) There is a new model yet to be released that is coming soon, with some > upgrades to fit it between the MZ5N and the MZ-S (quite possible). Or, > 3) Some of the new parts from the MZ-S will find their way into the MZ5N, > and it will become the MZ5N Super (possible). Or, > 4) Pentax is now marketing strictly to pros and novices - nothing in > between (very unlikely). Or, > 5) Someone was misinformed (quite possible). > > Feel free to add other possibilities I may have overlooked. In any case, I > wouldn't fret over it's demise. > > Thanks, > Ed > - Original Message - > From: "Robert VanNatta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: MZ-5N discontinued? > > > > > > > It is always possible that they might just rework it a little and add a > couple more features > > as they did when the ZX-5 was discontinued in favor of the ZX-5n. > > > > How about a mirror lockup and a 1/4000 shutter? > > > > Chris Ellison wrote: > > > > a best seller. > > > > > > > > Could Pentax manufacture a replacement at less cost and so increase > > > their profit margin? > > > > > > Should I start stockpiling 5n bodies? It is possibly my favourite SLR of > > > all time and there does seem to be a trend towards less compatibility > > > with the old lenses. > > > -- > > > Chris Ellison > > > > > > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit > http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > > > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit > http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend
Doug Brewer wrote: > > Well, you =could= just send us the lens. I mean, it'd be great to > have you along, but you know, if you can't make it... I don't think I'll be using it that weekend. So if you want to pay the shipping, I'm sure something could be arranged. > > At 5:54 PM -08001/5/01, John Francis caused thus to appear: > >Doug Brewer wrote: > >> > >> Had to bring up the 250-600, dincha? I think after I got through with > >> it, it went back to Japan, never to return. > > > >Shame. And I won't be there, so there goes the other possibility ... > > > >-- > >John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. > -- > Douglas Forrest Brewer > Ashwood Lake Photography > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.alphoto.com > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: MX owner's manual on line
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Mark Roberts wrote: > I've got a PDF of the MX owner's manual on line now at > http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm Excellent! Thanks a lot, Mark. Not that a manual is necessary to operate the MX, buy it's always nice to have it. j -- - Juan J. Buhler | FX Animator @ PDI | http://www.crosswinds.net/~jbuhler - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Pentax 645
Just a short comment on your mentioning of print sizes with the 645/n We sell 16 x 20s regularly, 20 x 24 & 24 x 30 quite often and for the right person30 x 40 from these cameras without any hesitation or problem whatsoever...Just wanted others to know that "an occasional 16 x 20" is not a restriction of the format. Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > << I'm seriously considering going to medium format. I > was thinking about the 645 because it handles like a > 35mm and produce big 6x4.5 negs. Could some of you > comment on the differences of 645 and 645N as well the > advantages/disadvantages of the system over 35mm, > besides the larger negative? > Thanks, > Herbet.>>> > > To put it simply, as did you, the larger negative. This allows you to get > 11x14s with ease as well as the occassional 16x20 (as opposed to the 8x10 > with ease and the occassional 11x14 that I get with 35mm). To go along with > the larger negative, you get more weight. My P645 backpack with 6 lens weighs > 22 lbs (along with all accessories, film, etc). My Olympus 7 lens system with > 2 bodies fits into a fanny pack. So portatability is a big distinction. > > To me the main distinctions between the 645N which I don't have, aside from > autofocus, and the MF P645 is the spotmeter and data imprinting. The AF > versions of the 120 macro, 150 (3.5 or 2.8), and 200.4 may be sharper than > their manual counterparts. > > Warren > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: How to develop 16mm Kodachrome II film
"Snowfield" Willie Robb wrote: > Unfortunately, the best you can do is to develope the film as a > black and white negative. KII processing (K-14) is long deleted, H - interesting. ... is this also possible w/ current Kodachromes, or just the older process stuff? and if so, will the results be positives and of any quality? Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Pentax 67
- Original Message - From: "Michel Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Pentax 67 > About that 105/2.4 : I gather it is the fastest lens available (ever made ?) for the 67. That is correct. > Is there only one version of the lens? And how good is it, compared with the other > lens in the lineup? I have the older version. I cannot comment on the new one, but the old one is very good indeed. The new 45mm is wonderful, the old 75mm is ok, but not exceptional. Flare is a problem with it (mine is SMC). The 90LS is pretty darned good. It is not the same optical design as the regular 90. I have heard the standard 90mm is terrific. I bought the 105 for the speed, and because I wanted a slightly longer standard lens. The old 135 macro is also superb. If you are curious, see: http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/lens_tests/6x7lenstest.html (cut and paste the URL as needed). It is a few pictures shot with the 67 lenses that I own. > > Has there ever been third party lenses for the 67, faster than f2.4 ? The only third party optics I have seen for the 6x7 is a 2x teleconverter. William Robb > > Michel This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Photo Safari
Dick, I've watched the Cannon Photo Safari over the last several years and the pattern has been to start showing late Sept. or early Oct. and quit by year's end. I don't know how they arrived at the timing. It might have something to do with availability and cost of airtime @ that time of the air. I've spoken to Cannon reps at seminars I've attended and also voiced my praise to them. I admit though, that the subject matter has gotten less enjoyable for me, but I tape every one I can. You can generally get notice of when their on again in the fall by looking at the Sept. or Oct. issue of Outdoor Photographer. Ken - Original Message - From: dick graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:59 AM Subject: Photo Safari > ESPN 2 was running Canon's Photo Safari at 3:00pm CST, it is not on > anymore. I know some of the shows were a little lame but, to the best of > my knowledge, it was the only photo show on TV. Anyone know what happened? > > DG > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Compatibility table
I doubt it was on purpose. We have 3rd parties that tried to improve on their mount a little. Sort of like software that gets broken when a new operating system comes out. Things happen. Jostein Øksne wrote: > I had the same problem with a Tokina AT-Z 60-300 zoom. Don't know if > Pentax did that to the KAF2 cameras on purpose, though... > Jostein > > "Robert P. VanNatta" wrote: > > > > I own a living walking example of a K-mount lens that is incompatible > > with my ZX-5 or any other KAF2 camera body. > > > > It is is not a Pentax brand lens, however. It is a Vivitar 120-600 zoom in the > > original 'K' mount. The problem is mechanical. This lens has a quite long guard > > on the back of it for the tang that sticks out of the back of the lens. Long in >the sense that it extends 'around' > > the lens --- not in the sense of sticking back further > > than necessary. > > -- > _ > Jostein Øksne | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oslo, Norway. | http://home.c2i.net/jostein.oksne/ > | http://www.fotonordic.com/ > _ > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: OT: Re: Enlarging Focusers
PAUL STENQUIST wrote: > My focusing scope is > fairly bright (at least > to my eye) even at small aps. > It's a 25X Bestwell with a > three element lens. Ahh - something I wanted to hear. I'm considering the Bestwell Microsight to supplement the Peak. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: OT: Re: Enlarging Focusers
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:57 PM Subject: Re: OT: Re: Enlarging Focusers > Hi Bill ... > > I already have the Peak I, and it's pretty nice, but I found > the image to be dull and hard to focus. Turns out that it > needs a new mirror, which I'll certainly get. But I also want > something with a greater magnification, and that's why I'm > interested in the Microsight. > > The concept of focus shift eludes me somewhat. It would seem > that, as you stop down, the image would get sharper. I've > read a fair amount of Ctein's work, but don't recall coming > across anything having to do with focus shift while enlarging. I will try to dig up the article. It was in Photo Techniques while back (I do believe). Bill > -- > Shel Belinkoff This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Excessive arrogance and trolling (Was: Help on digital for newsprint)
- Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Excessive arrogance and trolling (Was: Help on digital for newsprint) > Len wrote: > > But one thing it *was* written to do was to hopefully discourage > > yet another long non-pentax message thread. > > This is excessive arrogance and a clear breach of any basic list rules, certainly of the directions for the PDML. Someone who, without any valid grounds but his own personal dislikes, takes it upon himself to, on the list, actively discourage other list members from discussing a perfectly valid list thread. > It is called trolling. > In my opinion Len ows the list an apology and deserves a word of warning from the list moderator for such behaviour and his clearly stated intentions. And in my opinion, Len is showing incredible amount of common sense that is often so severely lacking. After all this is PDML (pentax-discuss mailing list, not VDML (verbal-diarrhea mailing list). This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
OT: Re: Enlarging Focusers
I went with the Peak Model 1 ($$$). It is only 10x, but has a real lens and a front silvered mirror. I would highly recomend it. I had one of the really high powered ones, but found that at the working aperture, I had trouble seeing anything with it. For most accurate focussing, you should be final focusing at the working aperture. Apparently, focus shift as you stop down is a concern (the gospel according to Ctein) William Robb - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Enlarging Focusers > I'd like to supplement the focuser I have with the Bestwell > Microsight focuser. > The one I have now only enlarges 10x, but the Microsight > goes to 25x, which I think may afford more accurate > focusing.. Before I plop down my $$$ I was hoping to get > some comments on this, and, perhaps, other focusers. > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome
- Original Message - From: "dick graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome > I just read on the Holland Photo Imaging website that they no longer will > be doing silver contrast control masking as the material for the mask will > no longer be available. They say that they have alternative measures, but > I didn't explore there explaination. Kodak (bless them) discontinued Pan Masking Film some time ago. I suspect T-Max could be made to work, but it is very fast for darkroom work. The Masking film was contact printing speed. Of course Agfa 25 is gone, and Ilford doesn't make PanF+ in sheet sizes AFAIK. It is a sad world, to be sure. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Compatibility table
I had the same problem with a Tokina AT-Z 60-300 zoom. Don't know if Pentax did that to the KAF2 cameras on purpose, though... Jostein "Robert P. VanNatta" wrote: > > I own a living walking example of a K-mount lens that is incompatible > with my ZX-5 or any other KAF2 camera body. > > It is is not a Pentax brand lens, however. It is a Vivitar 120-600 zoom in the > original 'K' mount. The problem is mechanical. This lens has a quite long guard > on the back of it for the tang that sticks out of the back of the lens. Long in >the sense that it extends 'around' > the lens --- not in the sense of sticking back further > than necessary. -- _ Jostein Øksne | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oslo, Norway. | http://home.c2i.net/jostein.oksne/ | http://www.fotonordic.com/ _ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Compatibility table
You're right! I messed up with the titles. Sorry.
Thanks for pointing it out!
Jostein
Rodger Whitlock wrote:
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> On 5 Jan 01 at 23:27, Jostein Oksne wrote:
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> > Meters Aper-
> > Needs through TTL Shutter ture
> > adaptor full auto- pri.pri.
> > Lens type to fit aperture flash prgm. prgm.
> > __
> > Screwmount Y NY Y N
> > 645-lenses Y NY Y N
> > 67-lenses Y NY Y N
> > K-seriesN YY Y N
> > M-seriesN YY Y N
> > A-seriesN YY Y Y
> > F-seriesN YY Y Y
> > FA-series N YY Y Y
>
> I think you have the last two columns swapped. Am I right?
>
> Example: if you mount an M- or K-series lens are nearly any Pentax
> body, you will be in aperture priority mode ("Y" in last column)
>
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Re: OT: RE: Help on digital for newsprint
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Paris, Leonard wrote: > No, not really any worse than any other Monday. :-) > I Find 400+ messages in the PDML and then along comes > another digital topic to inflate the non-Pentax > message count. Hi, Len. Just a couple of points: (1) If you don't want to read off-topic digital posts, why not filter out headers that have "OT" and/or "digital" in them? This thread seems to have both. (2) How is this not Pentax related? Pentax makes digital cameras. If someone asked "I want a camera for news photography with these features; what price range would I be looking in?" then we would either help them out, or suggest some Pentax models that might fit the bill. Why not do the same with digital? This certainly seems more on-topic than threads about film, tripods, filters, etc. chris This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Way OT: Help on digital for newsprint
Every once in a while I have this blinding flash of insite that leaves me reeling. Also personal experience. :-) -Original Message- From: Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Way OT: Help on digital for newsprint >Very astute Tom! > >From: aimcompute > >> I have this theory about posters on this list (they are predominantly >male). >> I propose that from time to time, their spouses, etc. are experiencing a >> hormonal imbalance and that via pheromones or some other transfer method, >a >> hormonal imbalance is triggered in the PDML member themselves. This >> imbalance in a normally good-natured person is exhibited by atypical >> outrageous behavior against other list members, often with the tendency to >> pick on words and grammar as opposed to intent. > > > > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. >Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Help on digital for newsprint
I am strictly and amateur. However, I did just complete evaluating dig. cameras and based on my meager efforts, I would second the cameras suggested below, except for the Pentax/HP which couldn't get my hands on to "evaluate." I selected the N 990 for reasons having to do with my particular intended use and other planned hardware purchases. However, I don't think I would have been really disappointed by any of the others. Most of my pictures are taken indoors. I found I needed a reasonably good flash (SB28) with the camera for it to be truly useful to me. I am still "learning" about the camera, but so far, I quite happy with it. As I said, I just an long term novice (never progressed beyond Spotmatic F and ES II until now), so my evaluation wasn't as qualitative as John's is -- by any means. John Francis wrote: > Lasse Karlsson wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > As I may previously have mentioned, I shoot (as well as write) for various >publications, including newspapers. > > I've been thinking of buying a digital (I guess it will be a P&S-type of) camera, >since occaisonally faster delivery is wanted. > > > > Now, if a want > > > > - digital camera; > > - manages newsprint up to...say ca 12x18 cm; > > Almost any camera, nowadays. 12x18cm is around 5x7 (for those of us > in parts of the world that still use old-fashioned units of measurement). > A 3 megapixel camera will let you get to 300dpi at that size - good > enough for a near-photo-quality print. For newsprint purposes you > don't need anywhere near that resolution - 100 to 150 ppi should be OK. > That means you can buy pretty much any camera of 2MP or better, and use > one of the lower resolution settings. > > > - as much manual settings as possible; > > Once you get above the bottom tier of digital cameras you'll find that > a lot of them have this. > > > - built-in-flash or/and external flash capabilities; > > The built-in flash on most of them is pretty pathetic. > > > - a zoom equivalent of ca 35-80mm; > > Fairly standard, nowadays. > > > - easy communication with standard computers (I'd like the ability to plug in to, >load and send from nearest available computer and/or from home (P133/32mb, Win95) ); > > This may be your biggest problem - many of the digital camera on sale > today come with USB connections. A P133 motherboard is probably too > old to have USB on board, and older operating system support for add-on > USB cards is a gamble. > > > where does this take me in terms of costs and suggestions anout current useable >models? > > Look at one of the digital photography sites such as http://dpreview.com > for more detailed information. I've been looking at cameras in the $700 > to $1000 range (probably overkill for your application). > > If that's within your budget, I'd suggest taking a look at: > > The Pentax/HP cameras. > > The Canon Digital Elph/Digital Ixus. > The reason to buy this is the size. It's *tiny*. > > The Nikon 900 & 800 series. > > The Olympus 2000 & 3000 series. Especially the > latest models (3040 & 2040?), with an f1.8 lens. > > -- > John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. > (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 > (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 > Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Pentax 645
I don't know much about the differences between the 645 and 645n, so I can't help you much there. The data imprinting springs to mind, as does more frames per roll. Better meter too, supposedly...You should be able to find some specs on the web somewhere. As far as the diffs between 645 and 35mm, here are a few: - Though it handles sort of like a 35mm slr, it's still pretty big. The 75mm is almost pancake-like, and makes for a relatively compact package, but it's a far cry from a zx-5n + 43mm... - You can't rewind film in the 645n. Once you've loaded a roll, that's it. I wish someone would tell me a trick to get around this... - The 645 has fewer lens choices, plus they're obviously going to be pretty dang expensive. Yes, I said 'dang'. - MF film/processing ain't cheap either. Yes, I said 'ain't'. - The 645n seems pretty loud to me. - The 645n has a very nice finder. I find focusing manually pretty easy. That's what springs to mind right now, I'm sure others will jump in to fill the gaps... tv herbet brasileiro wrote: > > Hi team, > I'm seriously considering going to medium format. I > was thinking about the 645 because it handles like a > 35mm and produce big 6x4.5 negs. Could some of you > comment on the differences of 645 and 645N as well the > advantages/disadvantages of the system over 35mm, > besides the larger negative? > Thanks, > Herbet. > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Test message (HTML?? Say it ain't so!!)
Title: Test message (HTML?? Say it ain't so!!)
Hi all,
I received a note from Shel this morning telling me that one of my postings showed up in his mailbox with a lot of embedded HTML code, and asking me to please turn off HTML. Would one of you be so kind as to let me know if you're receiving this test message with embedded HTML? I'll then see if I can get things fixed. I don't want to re-start the HTML Flame War.
I'm using my computer and mailserver from work, so I'm stuck with MS Outlook as an interface. My earlier posting was a reply to a posting by James Apilado. Outlook didn't show any HTML code in that message, or in my reply. I haven't explicitly set Send Options for [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I can apparently set it as either MIME (plain text only, plain text plus HTML, or HTML only) or Plain Text/UUEncode. However, when I reply to a posting from the listserver (like I did this morning), Outlook apparently won't let me set any explicit Send Option for the message text -- it will only let me set the option for any attachment.
Anyway, your help is appreciated.
{Shel -- Does this posting look any better, or is all that HTML crap still embedded?}
Thanks in advance,
Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome
I just read on the Holland Photo Imaging website that they no longer will be doing silver contrast control masking as the material for the mask will no longer be available. They say that they have alternative measures, but I didn't explore there explaination. DG At 12:09 PM 1/8/01 -0800, you wrote: >Ilford bought the company that used to produce the >Cibachrome and renamed the product to Ilfochrome. It's >been quite a while though. >They claim to have improved the process to be less >toxic but it's still pretty corrosive and smelly. If >you plan to use, be carefull and use rubber gloves >when handling the chemicals. >Herbet. > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. > > When I asked a photo > > teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he > > never heard of it, and he told > > me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and > > it says Cibachrome is a > > proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same > > thing? What are the differences? > > You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > > To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow > > the directions. > > Don't forget to visit the PUG at > > http://pug.komkon.org > > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. >Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
OT: RE: Help on digital for newsprint
No, not really any worse than any other Monday. :-) I Find 400+ messages in the PDML and then along comes another digital topic to inflate the non-Pentax message count. I'm interested in digital stuff, computers, printers, etc., myself but I try to keep my posts on-topic for the forum I'm in. There are lots of fora that this would be mainline on-topic for. I am on a few of those too. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help on digital for newsprint > > > Having a bad day, Len? > > Aaron > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To > unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Pentax 67
herbet brasileiro wrote: > What other lens do you suggest. For what I've seen the > Pentax 67 system is one of the bargains for medium > format although still a tad bitter to me. Photodo > rates almost all the 67 lens much higher than Mamyia's > that cost much more. Yes, and the 67 is a great system...I didn't mean to sound down on it, I just wanted to give you a heads-up that you'd probably need a short extension tube or something like it for portraiture. I'm still limited to my one lens for my 67: the glorious 105mm f2.4. I'm seriously considering selling my 4x5 to finance some wide-angle lenses for this beastie. Aaron This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Help on digital for newsprint
"Paris, Leonard" wrote: > So, the last remaining question, for you to answer, is, "Why would you think > I'm doing any of that? Len, dunno if maybe your tone is different in your head than it sounds in mine, but your posts sound to me like you're dressing down Lasse for asking a question that seems to me entirely appropriate and answerable in this forum. From past posts it is quite obvious that someone knowing the answer is out there...why should Lasse seek out and subscribe to another forum only to ask them one question and then leave when the answer is sitting right here with us? Aaron This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Help on digital for newsprint
One restriction would be the use of Serial rather than USB connection. Windows 95 will not support USB ports unless it is the B version. Every computer (except some of the new E-machines) has a serial port. Not all have USB yet. Jack Mowery Lasse Karlsson wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Now, if a want > > - > - easy communication with standard computers (I'd like the ability to plug in to, >load and send from nearest available computer and/or from home (P133/32mb, Win95) ); > > where does this take me in terms of costs and suggestions anout current useable >models? > > Thanks, > Lasse This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Help on digital for newsprint
Having a bad day, Len? Aaron This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Similar question, Asahi filters, SMC or not?
Hi Shel, Thanks for the link. fredd > I'm just learning about Pentax filters myself, so there's not > much that I can share with you other than to say, from what > I've read thus far, the current crop of SMC filters are > considered top notch. I can't say say much about older ones > other than to mention I have a couple that are 30 years old > that I used on my original Super Tak lenses, and they've held > up quite well. > > Have you checked out these comments: > > http://www.nd.edu/~sborman/personal/photo/filters.html This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Pentax 645
Hi team, I'm seriously considering going to medium format. I was thinking about the 645 because it handles like a 35mm and produce big 6x4.5 negs. Could some of you comment on the differences of 645 and 645N as well the advantages/disadvantages of the system over 35mm, besides the larger negative? Thanks, Herbet. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
RE: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome
I think Ilford bought the process but, probably, many more people recognize the name Cibachrome than do the name Ilfochrome just because the name Cibachrome existed for a longer period. I believe they are the same thing. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome > > > Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. When I > asked a photo > teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he never heard > of it, and he told > me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and it says > Cibachrome is a > proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same thing? What > are the differences? > You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? Thanks in advance. > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To > unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome
Ilford bought the company that used to produce the Cibachrome and renamed the product to Ilfochrome. It's been quite a while though. They claim to have improved the process to be less toxic but it's still pretty corrosive and smelly. If you plan to use, be carefull and use rubber gloves when handling the chemicals. Herbet. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. > When I asked a photo > teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he > never heard of it, and he told > me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and > it says Cibachrome is a > proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same > thing? What are the differences? > You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? > Thanks in advance. > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow > the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at > http://pug.komkon.org > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome
They are the same thing. Process used to be Cibachrome, with materials from Ciba-Geigy, a company that I assume held the patents, etc. (Not sure of spelling of company name). Ilford bought them out and renamed the process Ilfocherome. Your instructor must be an old timer -- we never will get used to calling the things Ilfo... Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. When I asked a photo > teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he never heard of it, and he told > me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and it says Cibachrome is a > proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same thing? What are the differences? > You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? Thanks in advance. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome
the following URL has a good explanation on the process and how the name change came about: http://www.lightroom.com/pages/contents_frameset_97.html Delano > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:58:59 -0300 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Ilfochrome - Cibachrome > > Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. When I asked a photo > teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he never heard of it, and he > told > me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and it says Cibachrome is a > proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same thing? What are the > differences? > You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? Thanks in advance. > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit > http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Help on digital for newsprint
>> "Paris, Leonard" wrote: >> >> > How would we know? We are a bunch of Pentax camera users >> that still use >> > film. Perhaps you should ask your questions in a digital >> camera forum. >> >> Please don't speak for us all. I'd guess that all of us use >> film cameras, but some of us also use digital cameras from >> time to time. Pentax also sells digital cameras. > >1. How could I speak for anyone but myself? By using the word "we"? This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: What will Digital Mean?
On 8 Jan 2001, at 11:55, John Francis wrote: > Rob Studdert wrote: > > > > Having used the Polaroid SS4000 (my third film scanner over 6 years) I might > > just add that from my observations I estimate that there is at least twice the > > detail available in most =<100ISO films that the SS4000 can resolve. I have > > come to this conclusion after comparing many 4000DPI scans to the actual film > > under 40x optical magnification. > > That's pretty close to my impression, too. But the SS4000 doesn't > deliver a real 4000ppi, either - there is a certain amount of bleed. > Compare a scan from the SS4000 with a 4000ppi drum scan. > It's a pretty nice scanner, though - I'm still considering one. > > But you have to be trying pretty hard to get that information out of > the film - you need a really good lens, and a rigid camera plateform. The last example that I can say I compared with any detail was a K25 slide shot using the Contax G45mm at ~f5.6 hand held in late afternoon light (so the shutter speed couldn't have been that high). My SS4000 is pretty good, there isn't much inter-pixel bleed but in any case I couldn't believe how much more detail was in the slide. It would have to be fairly dense digital image to come close IMHO :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Prints From Negs or Slides
Bob Walkden wrote: > Joseph McAllister wrote: > > [...] > > > 4. Who is making a living from shooting negative film, other than weddings and >portraits? Everyone I know who takes gear > > and film out on a job, or shoots fashion, food, products, etc., in a studio, uses >transparency film. (Except the digitally > > converted) > > > 5. QED: Those who have to do it right for display or publication use transparency >film, from 35 mm to 8 x 10. They must > > know something! > > [...] > > those photojournalists and reportage photographers who are not yet > digital - and there are still many of them - tend to use negative film still. You are right, I should have inserted the term "and pulp publications" in #4, and "slick" before publication in #5. Thanks! -- JoMac, Imagineering Head Image * I * Nation, the creative division of RMG Services NW \__/ "A fool and his money are soon parted."Now how do I get it back? This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
RE: Help on digital for newsprint
> -Original Message- > From: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help on digital for newsprint > > > "Paris, Leonard" wrote: > > > How would we know? We are a bunch of Pentax camera users > that still use > > film. Perhaps you should ask your questions in a digital > camera forum. > > Please don't speak for us all. I'd guess that all of us use > film cameras, but some of us also use digital cameras from > time to time. Pentax also sells digital cameras. 1. How could I speak for anyone but myself? > I, for one, would like to read any answers that might be > posted to Lasse's question. 2. How could I prevent you from reading any answers? And, most important, 3. how do I prevent people from sending answers? The answers are: 1. I can't. 2. I can't. 3. I can't. So, the last remaining question, for you to answer, is, "Why would you think I'm doing any of that? Len --- Len --- This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Ilfochrome - Cibachrome
Hi. Here in the list I read a lot about Ilfochromes. When I asked a photo teacher about them, he looked me strange as if he never heard of it, and he told me they are Cibachromes. Then, I read in a book and it says Cibachrome is a proccess made by Ilford. So, are both the same thing? What are the differences? You call them Ilfochromes or it is the true name? Thanks in advance. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Way OT: Help on digital for newsprint
Very astute Tom! From: aimcompute > I have this theory about posters on this list (they are predominantly male). > I propose that from time to time, their spouses, etc. are experiencing a > hormonal imbalance and that via pheromones or some other transfer method, a > hormonal imbalance is triggered in the PDML member themselves. This > imbalance in a normally good-natured person is exhibited by atypical > outrageous behavior against other list members, often with the tendency to > pick on words and grammar as opposed to intent. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Point and Shoot
Just stay away from Pentax PC-330. I bought it for my sister, and the pics sucks. Even an old Kodak free focus given in a special offer from a minilab takes better pics. Albano. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: What will Digital Mean?
Rob Studdert wrote: > > Having used the Polaroid SS4000 (my third film scanner over 6 years) I might > just add that from my observations I estimate that there is at least twice the > detail available in most =<100ISO films that the SS4000 can resolve. I have > come to this conclusion after comparing many 4000DPI scans to the actual > film under 40x optical magnification. That's pretty close to my impression, too. But the SS4000 doesn't deliver a real 4000ppi, either - there is a certain amount of bleed. Compare a scan from the SS4000 with a 4000ppi drum scan. It's a pretty nice scanner, though - I'm still considering one. But you have to be trying pretty hard to get that information out of the film - you need a really good lens, and a rigid camera plateform. If you are hand-holding the camera you won't get anywhere near that. And even the best zoom lenses fall far short of the requisite lpi. I think that the next round of digital cameras (4 megapixels and up) will begin to edge into serious consideration for replacing point-and- shoot cameras for all purposes - the image capture stage will no longer be the weakest step in the process. For all but the most demanding uses, I think 24 megapixels (4k x 6k) will suffice to replace film. That's about the resolution I expect to push 35mm off the market almost entirely - the few people who need more than that will migrate to medium format for quality purposes. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Way OT: Help on digital for newsprint
I have this theory about posters on this list (they are predominantly male). I propose that from time to time, their spouses, etc. are experiencing a hormonal imbalance and that via pheromones or some other transfer method, a hormonal imbalance is triggered in the PDML member themselves. This imbalance in a normally good-natured person is exhibited by atypical outrageous behavior against other list members, often with the tendency to pick on words and grammar as opposed to intent. When I find myself in these situations, I take a good over-the-counter PMS medicine like Premasyn. It works just as good on guys as it does on gals. About 30 minutes after taking it, my world is calm and relaxed. Tom C. -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Way OT: Help on digital for newsprint >The questions were quite on topic for this list and I, for one, have found some of the answers very >informative. > >>No. What you did was post a major off-topic set of questions and what I did >>was to point that out to you. Nothing you asked has any Pentax-Discuss >>value in it. > > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. >Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Pentax SMC Filters Get Kudos
Thank you, Shel. IronWorks - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff To: Pentax List Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Pentax SMC Filters Get Kudos Just came across this and thought it might interest somepeople on the list, for whatever reason:http://www.nd.edu/~sborman/personal/photo/filters.html -- Shel Belinkoffmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions.Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
RE: Help on digital for newsprint
> Hi all, > > As I may previously have mentioned, I shoot (as well as > write) for various publications, including newspapers. > I've been thinking of buying a digital (I guess it will be a > P&S-type of) camera, since occaisonally faster delivery is wanted. > > Now, if a want > > - digital camera; > - manages newsprint up to...say ca 12x18 cm; > - as much manual settings as possible; > - built-in-flash or/and external flash capabilities; > - a zoom equivalent of ca 35-80mm; > - easy communication with standard computers (I'd like the > ability to plug in to, load and send from nearest available > computer and/or from home (P133/32mb, Win95) ); > > where does this take me in terms of costs and suggestions > anout current useable models? > > Thanks, > Lasse Yes, I see only one question mark in there but I see at least seven points that you want addressed in replies. It is no mean stretch of the imagination to see each as an individual question it its own right. PHOTODIGITAL is a great forum for people that are professionals and seek this kind of information. I assume that you do get paid for the pictures and writing that you do for these various publications, or do you do it only for the exposure? Len --- This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
way off topic Re: Re: GF Mtn Nature Weekend
Hey, that's your job, you want the lighthouse pics... I'll bet brownies would work. I am better at German chocolate pies or rum chocolate chip cookies > 3 feed me breakfast in bed My bed? Of course. is it a waterbed? > 4. let me use your camera For what? A doorstop? If you are using your camera's for doorstops you may as well hand them over anyway. I will take pictures with them like you are supposed to. > 7. buy me the biggest lens on the pentax discuss list Does size really matter that much? No size doesn't really matter, but then again neither does money. > 8. buy me a pentax medium format No point in this. You won't be able to carry it while carrying my heavy tripod. My personal trainer would beg to differ with this. > 9. smile at me all day Sure, if warranted by good behavior and obedience "I just do as I'm toad" > 10. and say, "yes sweetie" to everything i want Sure. I can lie as well as anyone. > and of course I would say "darling this tripod is awfully heavy will you > carry it for me please. :)~ Don't worry I don't want much... :) This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Similar question, Asahi filters, SMC or not?
Richard, I bought it more out of curiosity for my old K1000. I only paid $11.00 for it on ebay, so it will be less of a disappointment (and less $$$) as it is in your situation. fredd > I just bought a new 77mm Pentax polarizer, and I was a bit suprised > to see that it CLEARLY doesn't have the SMC coating (I have several other > SMC Pentax filters which do, so I just assumed they all did). I was a > bit disappointed, as I could have gotten a multicoated B+W for less. > > Richard Holman This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Similar question, Asahi filters, SMC or not?
Fredd, I just bought a new 77mm Pentax polarizer, and I was a bit suprised to see that it CLEARLY doesn't have the SMC coating (I have several other SMC Pentax filters which do, so I just assumed they all did). I was a bit disappointed, as I could have gotten a multicoated B+W for less. Richard Holman At 12:36 PM 1/8/01 -0800, you wrote: >Shel, > >Similar question here. >I bought a few days ago on e-bay a filter that has the following text : >Asahi Pentax Japan, Polarizing filter 58mm. No other text or markings. > >Can you tell/teach me anything about this filter ? Good, no good, ect. > >Thanks, > >fredd > > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. >Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Point and Shoot
A fairly old Nikon OneTouch -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Way OT: Help on digital for newsprint
The questions were quite on topic for this list and I, for one, have found some of the answers very informative. >No. What you did was post a major off-topic set of questions and what I did >was to point that out to you. Nothing you asked has any Pentax-Discuss >value in it. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: ZX-M Light Meter
I've noticed with my ZX-M that the metering provides a good neg below f16 with the A50mm lens. At f16 and f22 the negs are overexposed by about 1 to 1.5 stops respectively. That may be normal with respect to film latitudes. Overall, though, the negs come out in good shape. Collin -- -- "They have vanquished freedom and have done so to make men happy." the Grand Inquisitor in "The Brothers Karamazov" -- This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Scanner Choice?
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Rob Brigham wrote: > 1 Am I better to scan the negative or a print which has already had > some enlargement? > In the past I would have said better resolution from scanning the > print, but this > relies on the printer adjusting the way I want, and I would like to > override that > by scanning the neg myself. In my experience, you are better off scanning from the negative with a dedicated film scanner than scanning an enlarged print. The film scanner will be able to resolve a wider range of intensities (pardon my terminology) than is possible on a print. I have not used a flatbed w/ transparency hood so I can't comment on that. > 2 Is this a reasonable neg scanner if anyone has used it? I want to > be able to scan > a 35mm negative, crop to say half the frame and still print decent > A4 prints. I had an HP Photosmart S20 for a few days. I was quite pleased with the results. I could get it to work under NT 4.0 even though it is USB-only - HP provides a special driver for NT. You might be able to find some good deals on it now as it has been discontinued. I'm thinking of getting either the Acer ScanWit 2720S (SCSI) or the new Minolta Scan Dual II (USB). > 3 Is there anywhere on the web which reviews scanners from a quality > rather than > features point of view? I find reviews from the computing > fraternity are not so > demanding as those from the photographic community. Try http://www.imaging-resource.com Regards, Gerald This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: quick 2 cents on digital
This is true. Pundits have claimed the computer will make the office paperless - I don't believe it. Hard copy is safest preservation for everything. IronWorks - Original Message - From: Tiger Moses To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: quick 2 cents on digital What the point of the story was, people will soon figure out they'll wantHARD COPY!
Re: MZ-5N discontinued?
It is always possible that they might just rework it a little and add a couple more features as they did when the ZX-5 was discontinued in favor of the ZX-5n. How about a mirror lockup and a 1/4000 shutter? Chris Ellison wrote: a best seller. > > Could Pentax manufacture a replacement at less cost and so increase > their profit margin? > > Should I start stockpiling 5n bodies? It is possibly my favourite SLR of > all time and there does seem to be a trend towards less compatibility > with the old lenses. > -- > Chris Ellison > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Semi OT: Olympus resources
Hi. One of my friends bought a very beautiful OM2 SP. Really nice. But we will like to find the user manual (photo in malaysia page doesn't have info) or a source to clear some doubts about it. Any help will be appreciated. Albano This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Scanner Choice?
In a message dated 1/8/01 8:53:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I currently scan prints on my Umax 1220S scanner. > > I would like to upgrade to a better scanner and the Epson 1640u seems like a > good one according to specs, especially as it comes with a built in > transparency hood. > I'm also interested in the 1640SU and found the following where the 1640 was compared to a drum scanner. If you want to scan 35mm, the concensus was that you need a dedicated scanner for 35mm. Still the posted results for the 1640SU were impressive. It seems to have enough DMax for most regular photos, but not the under/over exposed ones. Check out Craig Yull's attachments toward the bottom of the page. The URL below seems to have wrapped so you'll have to piece it together. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001Ba4&topic_id=23&to pic=photo%2enet If the scanner has enough dynamic range and sharpness, it is always better to make a scan directly from the negative/slide rather than from a print. Who know what has been lost when the machine/operator printed your neg? Warren This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Help on digital for newsprint
Hey Len, in Lasse's defense Pentax does have the Pentax EI-200 Digital Camera and since this is a Pentax user's group it doesn't seem that far out that this question would come up. Granted, he wasn't specifically asking about the Pentax digital camera but this a great and knowledgeable group and there may be someone who is able to answer his question - even off the list. Delano > From: "Paris, Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:55:52 - > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Help on digital for newsprint > > How would we know? We are a bunch of Pentax camera users that still use > film. Perhaps you should ask your questions in a digital camera forum. > > Len > --- > >> -Original Message- >> From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:31 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Help on digital for newsprint >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> As I may previously have mentioned, I shoot (as well as >> write) for various publications, including newspapers. >> I've been thinking of buying a digital (I guess it will be a >> P&S-type of) camera, since occaisonally faster delivery is wanted. >> >> Now, if a want >> >> - digital camera; >> - manages newsprint up to...say ca 12x18 cm; >> - as much manual settings as possible; >> - built-in-flash or/and external flash capabilities; >> - a zoom equivalent of ca 35-80mm; >> - easy communication with standard computers (I'd like the >> ability to plug in to, load and send from nearest available >> computer and/or from home (P133/32mb, Win95) ); >> >> where does this take me in terms of costs and suggestions >> anout current useable models? >> >> Thanks, >> Lasse >> >> >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To >> unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. >> Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org >> > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit > http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Enlarging Focusers
I'd like to supplement the focuser I have with the Bestwell Microsight focuser. The one I have now only enlarges 10x, but the Microsight goes to 25x, which I think may afford more accurate focusing.. Before I plop down my $$$ I was hoping to get some comments on this, and, perhaps, other focusers. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: Help on digital for newsprint
Len P. wrote: > How would we know? Well, it's obvious that you don't know. Because of this it should also be obvious to you that my question is not directed at you, being ignorant of the subject. >We are a bunch of Pentax camera users that still use film. I interpret this as saying that PDML-members are shooting film only (or it would be nonsens.) That's a false statement. Maybe this is what you'd prefer, but nevertheless it's not true. >Perhaps you should ask your questions in a digital camera forum. Perhaps you should save the list pointless messages. There is of course a reason for me to ask this question on this list. If you want to initiate a discussion on what topics should be accepted on this list, why don't you do so in sensible manner. Lasse > > -Original Message- > > From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 8:31 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Help on digital for newsprint > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > As I may previously have mentioned, I shoot (as well as > > write) for various publications, including newspapers. > > I've been thinking of buying a digital (I guess it will be a > > P&S-type of) camera, since occaisonally faster delivery is wanted. > > > > Now, if a want > > > > - digital camera; > > - manages newsprint up to...say ca 12x18 cm; > > - as much manual settings as possible; > > - built-in-flash or/and external flash capabilities; > > - a zoom equivalent of ca 35-80mm; > > - easy communication with standard computers (I'd like the > > ability to plug in to, load and send from nearest available > > computer and/or from home (P133/32mb, Win95) ); > > > > where does this take me in terms of costs and suggestions > > anout current useable models? > > > > Thanks, > > Lasse This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Scanner Choice?
I currently scan prints on my Umax 1220S scanner. I would like to upgrade to a better scanner and the Epson 1640u seems like a good one according to specs, especially as it comes with a built in transparency hood. Questions: 1 Am I better to scan the negative or a print which has already had some enlargement? In the past I would have said better resolution from scanning the print, but this relies on the printer adjusting the way I want, and I would like to override that by scanning the neg myself. 2 Is this a reasonable neg scanner if anyone has used it? I want to be able to scan a 35mm negative, crop to say half the frame and still print decent A4 prints. 3 Is there anywhere on the web which reviews scanners from a quality rather than features point of view? I find reviews from the computing fraternity are not so demanding as those from the photographic community. Thanks in advance for any help... Rob Brigham The camera never lies, but the photographer can adjust the truth! This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: About to buy a Pentax K 28mm f/3.5. What is good price?
There is one on ebay now and a year or so ago I bought one for abour $40.00 Frank Wajer wrote: > Hi, > > I'm about to buy a Pentax K 28mm f/3.5, it is in mint condition. What is a > reasonable price? > > Frank > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit >http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: 67 Pentax equipment 4 sale
Hey, why not? Film production is to be shortly stopped, so it's relatively worthless . I'll give you $150 just to take it off your hands :) Norm From: Larry > I will give you $100 for the entire setlet me know if that is > acceptableI will send..a money order very promptly > > Waiting to hear from you..:) > > > > John Weitzel wrote: > > > > I have a Pentax 67 MLU with wood grip handle, two viewers, battery > > warmer for fridgid outdoor weather, and several other accessories for > > sale. Anyone interested I can send a picture of of this equipment and we > > can discuss price. All equiment is in 9+ condition. John This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Re: MZ-5N discontinued?
In article <002f01c07963$b61dbfa0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >> I heard that MZ-5N has been discontinued, >> Is it true? > >Could it possibly be that it's the next model to be replaced/upgraded? > The -50 and -10 have both been replaced/upgraded in the past year or so and >the MZ-S seems to be headed as a replacement/upgrade to the PZ-1p. This >would leave the -5n as the "oldest" model in the lineup and possibly the >next to be modified. > >Bill >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Puzzling though, why replace a camera that is highly thought of and (apparently) a best seller. Could Pentax manufacture a replacement at less cost and so increase their profit margin? Should I start stockpiling 5n bodies? It is possibly my favourite SLR of all time and there does seem to be a trend towards less compatibility with the old lenses. -- Chris Ellison This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
Duplicate messages on PDML?
Is anyone else continuing to receive duplicate posts? For many list members I receive two identical messages back to back. For others only one. When I post I only get one back at me. Tom C. -Original Message- From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:35 PM Subject: Help wanted PUG >No, this is not spam. >The PUG just continues to grow, and I would like to be able to >assign out a few more tasks. I am looking for one or two people >to help me write the index page and code the links on the >gallery pages. A basic knowledge of HTML would be nice, but not >extremely necessary. If I can learn it, anyone can. Most of the >work is straightforward cut and paste. >The main requirement is having sufficient free time during the >third week of each month to do an hour or two of work for the >gallery. >Please reply to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Thanks >Bill > > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. >Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org
