Re: PENTAX-M Macro 1:4 50mm
- Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" Subject: RE: PENTAX-M Macro 1:4 50mm > Since this is being shipped from Canada, would I have to > fill out any funky paperwork for Customs or would they handle > that? I have found this lens to be most excellent at close distances, at any aperture. However, it is not a really great lens beyond a few feet focusing distance. In normal shooting distances, I would put it on par, optically, with the 40mm f/2.8. What with the theoretical free trade agreement between our two countries, there shouldn't be much duties and the like to pay at your end. Make sure the seller fills out a customs declaration, and purchases sufficient insurance. Any duties are your responsibility to pay. If you can talk the seller into it, have them ship it as a gift (still with an insured value of course). This will avoid most duties or taxes that your government would want to collect. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, William Robb wrote: > Umm Chris, are you sure about that? We are talking about a > Takumar 6x7 lens, not a 35mm lens. > William Robb Oops, my bad. Thanks! :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden Subject: Re: Enabled > On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > > > My dream set up is still the 67II and the old SMC Tak 200/4. > > > > Is that lens any good? I passed one up for $200 (Canadian, that's like > > $125 US or so) because I'm mostly into wides, it was older, the minimum > > focus was worse than the 105 f2.4, and I didn't really have a loose $200. > > That's overpriced. I can't speak to the sharpness, as I like shorter > lengths myself, but they usually go for around $60-100 US, I think. Umm Chris, are you sure about that? We are talking about a Takumar 6x7 lens, not a 35mm lens. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: August PUG - Bill Casselberry
Paul Jones wrote: > > I remember a previous discussion on the possibility of not being able to > shoot infared film with the MZ-S, but has this been confirmed? I haven't heard anything, I'm wondering if Karen has tried it. > I cant recall the reason now. Well, if you didn't turn the data imprinting off, that would be a problem. If you did turn it off, the IR sensor *might* fog the film. However, other MZ bodies have a sensor as well, and don't. I've tested this with the ZX-5n. I would assume with the MZ-S' new capabilities that the sensor is different, so it might not work. If it does fog, it might not be catastrophic fog. Canon users have learned to live with a small amount of fogging along the edges, essentially ending up with something like a 36x22mm neg. I have a Program Plus dedicated to IR, so, personally, I'm not going to worry about it much. The meter in that thing seems to do remarkably well with IR, I don't even think much about it anymore. I hardly even bracket these days. BTW, I developed my first batch of film in PMK tonight and didn't die. The negs are nice and greencan't wait to print a few. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Chemical pocket heaters (was RE: Aurora Borealis shooting)
I think you're right Doug. Inside there's a chemical mixture that reacts when exposed to air or moisture. To keep camera gear warm, be sure to get the "exposed to air" variant. Though i guess all chemical reactions like that will go pretty slow at deep freezer temperatures. Jostein > -Original Message- > From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Could he be talking about those little "keep warm" packets > that you can > get at camping stores? You know, the little bags that you squeeze to > break a container inside, then it generates heat for a couple of hours > ... sort of like a Cyalume stick for heat instead of light. ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: August PUG - Bill Casselberry
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Paul Jones wrote: > I remember Canon specified that you couldnt use infared film the EOS1, > Had a friend who tried it and the infared sendor only affected the > film outside of the picture, near the sprocket holes. Which is where the MZ-S writes the data to the film, right? It seems a shame to lose that info. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: August PUG - Bill Casselberry
I remember Canon specified that you couldnt use infared film the EOS1, Had a friend who tried it and the infared sendor only affected the film outside of the picture, near the sprocket holes. - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: Re: August PUG - Bill Casselberry > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Did you MZ-S owners out there know you can't (?) shoot infrared film with > > the new Pentax. > > Have you tried it? > > tv > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PENTAX-M Macro 1:4 50mm
This is a fine flat field macro for close up work. If you don't get it, let me know. We can talk. http://panterragroup.home.mindspring.com/LX/50mm_F4_Macro_lens.jpg Stephen J. Krogh, P.G. The PanTerra Group http://panterragroup.home.mindspring.com/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amita Guha > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PENTAX-M Macro 1:4 50mm > > > Does anyone have any experience, good or > bad, with this lens? It has come up on > ebay. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1263752631 > > > Thanks, > Amita > http://pankurokku.com/~amita/balloons_801/ > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 3rd party lens as good as Pentax?
It's tough to say because in order to make a fair comparison one would have to own both the Pentax and the 3rd party lenses. I tend to buy 3rd party lenses for less used focal lengths where I don't want to cough up the price of the Pentax lens, but want the focal length in the bag. The better third party lenses I've used - Rikenon 55mm f1.2: decent sharpness wide open, excellent performer at f8 & f11, but the SMC 50mm f1.4 and 1.7 seem to match it except at f1.2. Kiron 105 f2.8 macro: an outstanding lens that can often be found at $100 to $150. I doubt it it is as good as the SMC 100 f2.8 macos, but at a fraction of their cost it wins the price/quality ratio. Tokina ATX 100 - 300 f4: Excellent all around. Sigma 14mm f3.5: Nice lens and incredibly rectilinear, but you need to stop down to f8 or f11 to minimize light fall off. With the introduction of the EX 14mm f2.8, it can be had at a good price. Not a focal length that gets much use and not one that justifies the major expense of the SMC or new Sigma (for me.) But nice to have in the bag. Sigma 50mm f2.8 macro: Really nice lens with excellent sharpness and flare control. I love 50mm's and I love macros, but I'd rather have the extra couple of stops of a 50mm f1.4 for general shooting, or the extra reach of a 100mm or 200mm for maco shooting, so it's not a lens that I take out often. Tokina 400mm f5.6 - great lens at f8 and 11, a bit soft wide open. I think the FA* SMC lens would be better, but is far more costly. And though I haven't used it, the Sigma 500mm f4.5 is the best autofocus 500mm currently made for Pentax. (OK, it's also the only 500mm f4.5 currently made for Pentax...) As a side note - I spent a lot of time and money looking for a good manual focus 28 - 100 ish zoom to use with the LX. I found the Vivitar Series 1 28 - 90 f2.8 - 3.5 to be dud (way too much light falloff at 28mm, even when stopped down) and the Rikenon 28 - 100 f4, while nice and sharp, had unacceptable distortion. I ultimately bought the SMC-A 28-135 f4 and have not regretted it. I was rather surprised at how few third party lenses were available in this range and how bad the ones I did get were. - MCC At 10:44 PM 8/12/01 -0500, Dan wrote: >Hi all, > >I periodically come across shots taken with the Tamron SP 90/2.5 macro and >get blown away by how utterly _lovely_ the images shot with that lens can >be--to my eye as good as the FA 100/2.8 macro. > >Limiting it to lenses currently or formerly available in k or screwmount, >what other 3rd party primes would you nominate as being equal to or better >than Pentax's best prime in same focal length (or are there any)? - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Must Resist!
Hi Bob ... Helix is a good place to practice your resistance techniques. However, let's be real here, you need an MZ-S to go with those nice Ltd. lenses you have. You need an MZ-S, you need an MZ-S ... you are getting sleepy, you are drifting off, s-l-o-w-l-y ... your eyes are closing, you need an MZ-S you are reaching for your credit card ... -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ebay inflation
I know what you mean. Someone is unloading a bunch of Vanguard monopods on ebay with a BIN price of $5 MORE than B&H has it. Go figure. --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PENTAX-M Macro 1:4 50mm
> I have it - I love it. Sharp as a tack. Go for it, girl. Thanks Ann. :) Since this is being shipped from Canada, would I have to fill out any funky paperwork for Customs or would they handle that? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: ebay inflation/deflation(FS)
If you are the seller, it's the other way around sometimes. I was just notified that my auction didn't meet the reserve. While I'm thinking of re-listing, I thought I would give this group a crack at the following: Pentax ZX5n with battery holder FG and Pentax 43mm limited lens.(includes all caps, hood, boxes manuals..) KEH lists the 5n in "like new" condition (which mine is also) for $245.00. Used FGs go for $17.00. KEH has no 43mm lenses, new or used. New ones sell at Adorama or B&H for $449.00. Somone make me an offer over $500.00 and I will pay for shipping. I still have the SL, LX, and ZX7, so I will not be needing the 5n. The 43 lens is not a focal length that I've been able to adapt to. I realize that this is not the bargain of the century, but I do believe it is fair. Kind regards, Bob Poe > The moral of the story is, of course, > beware of ebay prices. > I know I've found many bargains there. But for the > last year or two, as > the auction has grown more popular, bidding frenzy > frequently prices > things beyond what they're worth. I guess I ought to > start selling some > of that stuff that's gathering dust. > Paul > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > = What boots up must come down. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: [Fwd: [Leica] Anyone for PX625 cells?]
SS! Jim Apilado wrote: > I thought selling mercury batteries is illegal in the U.S. ? > > Jim A. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
lens database?
So I'm reading the digest all the time and there's this constant murmur about lenses. "Is this lens good?" Would it be good if someone who isn't web-developmentally challenged (like me) put together a poll where you could vote on lenses based on a couple key criteria? Sharp or not? Recommend or not? Size/weight ok? Price? Feels like a dream or a pile of crappy plastic... So when you had a notion to buy a lens, you could go there and see how the collective list feels. I know I'm proposing something that is work-based and not actually offering to DO it but...it's just an idea. I'm sure I'm not the first to think of it and it probably already exists but I hadn't seen it yet. Cory Waters Atlanta, GA USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax MZ-M for sale in Canada
I have recently acquired a second MZ-M, and so I have put one of them up for sale on eBay. http://cgi.ca.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1264226247 The MZ-M is the MZ-5n's little brother, with many of the same features and controls. It makes a great ultra-lightweight backup body. To see my review of this and other Pentax cameras, please go to http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/PentaxSLR.htm Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Welcome to pentax-discuss
Don't worry, Wendy, To my numerous relatives who live in Nova Scotia, everything west of Quebec is "The West"! :-) regards, frank Wendy Beard wrote: > Duh, just read the word "western". Looks like I need to polish up my geography. > > W. > > >At 07:06 13-8-2001 -0400, I wrote: > >>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:53:27 -0400 > >>From: Michael Perham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: Re: Welcome to pentax-discuss > >> > >>Karen, I understand only 6 MZ-S cameras were brought in to Western > >>Canada. The > >>Pentax rep has one... so only 5 went into retailers. You have one, I > >>have one > >>and I wonder where the other 3 are? > >> > >>Cheers, Mike. > > > > > >Two weeks ago, there was one in the Focus Centre on Bank St in Ottawa. As > >I didn't buy it, it may still be there..! > > > >W. > > > >--- > >Wendy & Paul Beard > >Ottawa, Canada > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: August PUG favourites from Cotty
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:35:27 +0100, Cotty wrote: >City Lights >by Gary Murphy >Simply: I like it. Thanks for the kind words, Cotty! Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
August PUG assignment - D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
My last "assignment" this month is: D. Glenn Arthur Jr., "Curry" Well, for starters, I'm a "cat person", so I'm a sucker for a good feline shot like this one. The lighting is extremely effective here. I find the effect of almost total blackness on the left to be dramatic, just capturing the outline of the cat's right ear. The expression on Curry's face is fascinating. I could stare back at her for a long time - it's mesmerizing. I'm forever trying to capture such moments, and inevitably, the cat, animal, or person, moves a split second before I'm about to squeeze the shutter release - "damn, missed another one!" Well done. I wonder if the shot might be a bit more effective if the cat were a bit sharper? I'm not really criticizing here, because I might look at this shot with a sharper cat, and think that the less-sharp one works better. Just wondering. I've also got to say that the orange monochrome isn't really to my liking, but hey, that was the colour of the lighting that you were presented with. And, certainly, the positive aspects of this shot outweigh the whatever might be taken away by the colour, which is only a personal opinion, in any event. All in all, like all the other shots in this month's gallery (excluding mine, of course), a wonderful image. Other's have said it already, but the August PUG was stunning! Thanks, Glenn. regards, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: 0 Leica
There's an interesting test evaluation of the 0 Leica replica that can actually take pictures. If you have a few bucks available a purchaser could experience the joy of early 35mm photography. Jim A. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
August PUG - Bill Casselberry
Number two of my August PUG assignments is: Bill Casselberry, "Yakina Bay Bridge" Well, I guess that recording light that the human eye can't detect is certainly "alternative", isn't it! No doubt that this one fits in with the theme this month. I must compliment you, Bill, on such a dramatic image! I've never used infrared film, but your shot reminds me that I'll have to buy a few rolls and fool around with them. There's something about IR when it's done right (as this, imho, is) that makes absolutely ethereal and surreal images. I love the sky - talk about dramatic - which I assume would not have looked nearly so unreal with conventionaly film. Looks like a prelude to the Second Coming! Your choice of lens is perfect, as it adds to the overall drama of the shot. That HUGE first span, with the other spans diminishing in size much more quickly than would be seen with the naked eye, works very will with the framing. I don't know how long the bridge actually is, but the way you shot it makes it look large, imposing and impressive. Once again, my critique really doesn't do your shot justice, Bill. I loved it. Thanks. regards, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
Title: Re: Most Productive Gear? I like using my ES II with an SMC 35mm f2 lens on it. For sentimental reasons, I still own my first Pentax, a Honeywell Pentax H3. I take it out once in a while and run it through its paces. Jim A. From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:35:42 +1000 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Most Productive Gear? Hi, Since we have been having a trend of user surveys/questions, I have one. What is your most productive body and lense combo? Also: Whats your least productive body and lense combo, which really should have been productive. My most productive combo is: Spotmatic SP and Super Takumar 55/1.8 Cyas
Re: Welcome to pentax-discuss
Duh, just read the word "western". Looks like I need to polish up my geography. W. >At 07:06 13-8-2001 -0400, I wrote: >>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:53:27 -0400 >>From: Michael Perham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: Welcome to pentax-discuss >> >>Karen, I understand only 6 MZ-S cameras were brought in to Western >>Canada. The >>Pentax rep has one... so only 5 went into retailers. You have one, I >>have one >>and I wonder where the other 3 are? >> >>Cheers, Mike. > > >Two weeks ago, there was one in the Focus Centre on Bank St in Ottawa. As >I didn't buy it, it may still be there..! > >W. > >--- >Wendy & Paul Beard >Ottawa, Canada >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: [Fwd: [Leica] Anyone for PX625 cells?]
I thought selling mercury batteries is illegal in the U.S. ? Jim A. > From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:38:35 -0700 > To: Pentax List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Fwd: [Leica] Anyone for PX625 cells?] > > > > Original Message > Subject: [Leica] Anyone for PX625 cells? > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:19:23 -0400 (EDT) > From: John W Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dear Fellow LUGgers; > > I received in the mail recently the July 2001 > product/price list from Heitz Service Corp. in > an envelope that was postmarked Aug. 4, 2001. > They have PX625 mercury cells for 5 bucks each > (US$5.00). > > Heitz Service Corp. > 34-11 62nd Street > Woodside, NY 11377 > Tel: 718.565.0004 > Fax: 718.565.2582 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Regards, > John > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Aug PUG comments - Dave O'Brien
Hi, After some delay (it was so damned hot last week, I just didn't feel like it), here are my August PUG "assignments", starting with: Dave O'Brien, "Carleena" I think this is a wonderful portrait of a musical artist in action. You captured her at a wonderful angle - her face at a profile, her body at 3/4 profile; I think this is very effective for this particular shot. I also think that you captured her at the perfect moment. Eyes half or almost closed, completely, emotionally "into her song", but (at least so it seems from the shot), not "posing" or grandstanding. It strikes me as a very honest image. The framing works beautifully: slightly off to the right-of-centre, from the chest up. Because she's slightly off centre, you've been able to have the two lights to the upper left, which adds to the "live" feeling (I'm not explaining myself very well here), while keeping everything in proportion. I also like the fact that she's wearing (what appears in B&W to be) a white t-shirt. Other than skintones, everything in the shot is either black (ie: microphone) or white (shirt and lights), which adds to the drama of the shot. The lighting is also quite dramatic - face exposed perfectly, the black under her chin and jaw, wonderful detail of her hair and facial features. An extremely effective portrait in its own right, and very much in keeping with this month's theme. Thanks. I really enjoyed it! regards, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Product Photography
Hi, I'm interested in doing some product photography, mainly shots of smallish objects like camera equipment, models and similar. I'm wondering what equipment i will need, i'm prepared to buy a few bits and pieces and how i should go about doing it. I can use either an LX or MZ-S and i have enough lense to cover most focal lengthes. The only flash i really have is a cheap haminex which is not ttl. altough i was considering buying a AF220T, as i can use this for macro work also. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Paul Jones
Re: Welcome to pentax-discuss
At 07:06 13-8-2001 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:53:27 -0400 >From: Michael Perham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Welcome to pentax-discuss > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Just introducing myself > > > Just bought the MZ-S and am shopping to add to my glass collection though I > > do have a couple of decent lenses. > >Karen, I understand only 6 MZ-S cameras were brought in to Western >Canada. The >Pentax rep has one... so only 5 went into retailers. You have one, I have one >and I wonder where the other 3 are? > >Cheers, Mike. Two weeks ago, there was one in the Focus Centre on Bank St in Ottawa. As I didn't buy it, it may still be there..! W. --- Wendy & Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
At 01:15 13-8-2001 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:35:42 +1000 >From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Most Productive Gear? > >Hi, > >Since we have been having a trend of user surveys/questions, I have one. > >What is your most productive body and lense combo? > >Also: > >Whats your least productive body and lense combo, which really should = >have been productive. My most productive by far is MX with 50mm 1.7 Least productive (which should have been productive) LX and A35-105. Lens produces cracking photos, but I don't like the zoom. The whole outfit is just too bulky. W. --- Wendy & Paul Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Must Resist!
Saw the MZ-S today at the local Helix in west suburban Chicago. I have read most of the threads on the body since the initial pictures appeared. I saw it with a Pentax AF28-70 F4 mounted on it. The very light and plastic feel is quite a contrast to the LX and the PZ series cameras. I have no doubt about the camera's quality, but the feel is a bit disarming. I knew how most of the functions operated from prior discussions. It seemed to be a natural extension of past Pentax practices...no 3 hours with the PZ-1 manual to understand the layout. I was skeptical about the electronic depth of field preview, but found it was quite handy. The viewfinder was clear and easily visible with my glasses on. The AF point selected was clear and easy to understand. Most interesting was the mirror. It had two black 2mm strips along the sides, perhaps to hold it in place, but this made the mirror smaller. The mirror box had an obvious place to pull the focusing screen down and replace it. But most interesting of all, the mirror vibration and sound was significantly less than an LX, or Super Program, or even the ME Super. This really was amazing. I had to put the camera down and meet my wife and daughter for dinner, but I had the urge to buy it. I must resist. I took my wife back after dinner to take another look. She asked if it would make a good 30th anniversary present. I must resist. I promised myself I would wait for the MZ-Sn. I MUST RESIST. Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: more 70-200f4 pics
Here's some pics (40kb or less) taken with a PENTAX Program Plus using Kodak (Max?)800 color & a CCP Phase2 CCT 70-200f4 macro/zoom lens sitting on top of a Kiron 2x tele... handheld... full program mode They are webcam pics of glossy photos... not exactly the best way to get em in the computer, but now you guys have something besides PUG shots to look at. Strictly amature... I just wanted to hear how loudly everyone grumped abt em. lol What I find interesting is even with em being slightly out of focus (I took my glasses off & didn't own a -.75 diopter at the time)... you can "almost" make out the spectators faces, like in air-1.jpg!! (well, the print ya can) Not exactly bokeh, eh? Thank you, Mr. Split-prism & infinity, eh? where are they?? Here. http://pages.prodigy.net/billpayer/misc/ I checked it with Nutscrape 4.72 & it worked Flame on Scoot - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
[Fwd: [Leica] Anyone for PX625 cells?]
Original Message Subject: [Leica] Anyone for PX625 cells? Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:19:23 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Fellow LUGgers; I received in the mail recently the July 2001 product/price list from Heitz Service Corp. in an envelope that was postmarked Aug. 4, 2001. They have PX625 mercury cells for 5 bucks each (US$5.00). Heitz Service Corp. 34-11 62nd Street Woodside, NY 11377 Tel: 718.565.0004 Fax: 718.565.2582 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, John - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fuji Acros in San Francisco & East Bay
There has been a fair amount of interest in this film with a number of list members wondering where it can be purchased. In the San Francisco and East Bay (Oakland, Berkeley) areas it can be found at Calumet on Bryant St. in SF and at The Looking Glass on Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do?" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
scanned pentax stuff
Pentax literature (most of them dutch) The originals scanned at 300dpi to PNG, but the files here are at height/3, width/3 so effectively filesize/9 and in medium quality jpg to keep the size (and download time) low. I am not planning to put the full resolution files on this server with my current bandwith limitations.(max 15Kbyte/second) George de Fockert dumped on the server : ftp://icthuis.dyndns.org/pub/pentax/jpg_mini (table painfully manual alligned, how can I get rid of this stupid proportional font in outlook) 003101_eng LX (24) 06021 MV (13) 06075_nl de vele ogen (9) ( A2 size lensposter included! ) 06105_nl super A (28) 06221_eng 6x7 (20) 06225_nl MG (16) 06241 MX (12) 06255_nl program A (20) 06730_nl ME super (16) 06755 K series (8) 06995_nl dental (4) K1000K1000 (4) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: August PUG favourites from Cotty
Cotty wrote: > > > Mountain Goat > by Paul Stenquist > Great narrative with a belting shot. Love it. > Thanks, after a particular grueling day at work, you made everything better. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: ebay inflation
I almost always check the KEH price on an item before bidding on ebay. This time I didn't. For one, I was beleaguered at work and didn't have much time, and I really wanted the equipment: a Quantum Battery 2 and charger. Well, I paid 168.50 for a like new unit. Today I checked the KEH price and found they have one (excellent, I believe) for $99. Big difference. The moral of the story is, of course, beware of ebay prices. I know I've found many bargains there. But for the last year or two, as the auction has grown more popular, bidding frenzy frequently prices things beyond what they're worth. I guess I ought to start selling some of that stuff that's gathering dust. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled !
I've had mine now a bit under a week and the most noticeable thing I've noticed so far is how good the focus screen is with manual focus lenses. I find it significantly better than the screens in my LX and I have the new Japan release screens. I shot a film at a market on Saturday with an M50/1.5 and M135/3.5 and it was magic. Haven't tried the battery grip, cant afford it yet :) I'm going to have to wait and order one from the US as in Australia there $500au ($250us). You would all be jealous if you knew how much I paid for the MZ-S :) - Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:52 AM Subject: Enabled ! > The yard sale K1000 gave me enough bodies to be enabled via trade to pick up > a MZ-S and BG-10 grip. The war department is happy since there are now only > 2 bodies lying around the house (MZ-S and Spotmatic) instead of 6 and I'm > happy to have the latest offering from Pentax. > > My impressions after the first couple of hours: > > Upside: > > Although the body itself is small and light, adding the BG-10 and FA28/105 > makes quite a handful. > > The flash sync of 1/180 with my AF500FTZ is not significantly different than > the 1/250 of the PZ-1p or the 1/100 of the ZX-5n > > The data imprinting will be a big help, especially since I shoot about 90% > negative film. > > The hotshoe adapter for the PZ-1p will work with the MZ-S for contrast > control flash whereas the same adapter doesn't allow the RTF to fully extend > with the ZX-5n. > > The user interface seems to be much easier than with the PZ-1p. > > Downside: > > The only thing I've determined so far that I don't like is having to obtain > a new electronic cable release. The cable release I have worked on both the > ZX-5n and PZ-1p, but the MZ-S has a different socket. Anybody need a ZX/PZ > cable release? > > Bill, KG4LOV > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
August PUG favourites from Cotty
Hi gang, Back from the delights of North Wales walking up some tall mountains and drinking some Fiddler's Elbow (took it with me from the Cotswolds for my sister's bloke...) I finally got chance to sit down in front of the PowerMac and look at the August PUG. Here's my favourites (from scribbles on paper): Lights of Hong Kong by Henry Chu Lovely composition, very nice colour and feel to it. Arch at Night by Tiger Moses Good shot! City Lights by Gary Murphy Simply: I like it. In The Pub by Matjal Osojnik Great people shot, which I love, but unless the candles on the left are the 'Alternate Light', I can't understand its inclusion here! Love the shot though. Memory By Luis Pinar A sombre reminder of the freedom some of us take for granted. A haunting image. Excellent. Neon Glow by William Robb Tied best of the bunch (see later). Bloody good. 'Nuff said, dammitt. Mountain Goat by Paul Stenquist Great narrative with a belting shot. Love it. Red and Green Cross by Arnold Stark A beautiful image that best fits the August PUG category - ties for top honours with Admiral Robb up there. Stunning. Well done! The Broken Fence by William Johnson Another haunting image that works well. I spent an hour and a half looking. The rest are all extremely high standard, as usual (except mine of course!) and so congrats on that, and thanks to the PUGsters who put it all together. It's like being back at school again, knowing there's a deadline to meet, and standards to achieve... Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A Conversation
I went into Midwest today & met a nice gentleman. He was shopping around for a 28/2 for his FE. We talked about photography (what else). He shot a Spotmatic in the 60s. His face would light up at the mere mention of SMC Taks, the 105/2.8 and the 85/1.9. (He said that the 85mm on his Spotmatic was sharper than any of his Nikon or Leica lenses of the same vintage.) His reason for leaving Pentax was multi-fold: He liked the feel of the longer advance stroke on the older bodies, lost on the later K/M bodies. The K bodies just didn't feel good to him. The M lenses just weren't up to the older lenses' quality. So he got his FM2. Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax Battery Grip BG-10
I just received my new Battery Grip BG-10 from Adorama in NYC!!! First impressions: Light, solid, wonderful finish, excellent ergonomic design! Easy to install. For those of us with larger than normal hands the MZ-S/BG-10 configuration seems a natural fit. In fact, after ten minutes of shooting I can't imagine using the MZ-S without the battery grip! If Pentax is indeed designing an updated LX, I recommend they include the vertical release and molded grip of the BG-10 as part of the standard LX II camera design! Alexander Grigolia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?)
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:20:05 +0200, Pl Jensen wrote: > Jim Zuckerman tells in one of his books that he uses "chemical > heating" for his MF camera and tape it to the camera back. What > the hell is that? Where can it be found? Could he be talking about those little "keep warm" packets that you can get at camping stores? You know, the little bags that you squeeze to break a container inside, then it generates heat for a couple of hours ... sort of like a Cyalume stick for heat instead of light. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Rejoin & Critique
> a picture for your comments: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=320791 > > Rapture/Jason Kiew Very nice one, would do it also very good in the PUG. Remember, you have till 20 August for your admission. Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
- Original Message - From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Most Productive Gear? | What is your most productive body and lense combo? MZ-7 + SMC M 50/2 or SMC F 35-80/4-5,6 Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 85mm FA* 1.4; comments
Amy Hughes wrote: > I suspect you wouldn't use the 77 for > anything you wouldn't use the 85 for. Each lens has different characteristics, so, while their focal lengths may be similar, IMO, they have different "fingerprints" and qualities, and, IMO, are not interchangeable. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] " ? " - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 85mm FA* 1.4; comments
Amy Hughs said: > I suspect you wouldn't use the 77 for > anything you wouldn't use the 85 for. > You might carry it because it's small, > though, but I leave it at home because > it's expensive. Hi Amy, While I understand your desire to preserve your expensive gear, pray tell, what do you use the lens for if you leave it at home? Do you leave your expensive camera at home too, perhaps so your lens doesn't feel lonely ? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do?" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: carbon black & coatings
Thanks guys.. U2 Bob (RELAX man. You'll pop a gasket) Shel brought up coatings. I was at Dimitrov's PENTAX page & under Non-SMC lenses he touched on Cosmicar & it's CCT heritage. specificly mentioning it's lack of the 7-layer SMC coating. IIRC the whole reason I got that lens (in '85) was the written hype over how it had a superior coating (not SMC, granted). The body says CPC Phase2 CCT Macro Zoom 70-200mm f1:4 & has Cosmicar stamped near the base on the ring. It's all metal & has been one of the first lenses I usually grab (not that I have a whole bunch to begin with). I don't get wood when I see pics from it, but I don't gripe either (peeps looking at the pics keep saying I ought to go Pro... but what do they know?). Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't go out & BUY this lens today ... but any idea if this thing is decently coated or not??? It "seems" to be from the colors & the way it's held up (no scratches etc). And side-by-side it's a damn good clone of the 70-210 SMC. Just curious. I seem to remember it being abt $240 in '85 not that it has Jack to do with the price of rice in Siam. Proving (once again) ya get what you pay for. Scoot - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wedding Photographer: The Lowliest Profession?
Interesting shot. Did they want a shot like that? As an occasional wedding photographer myself, the one shot that I didn't want to take was one where the groom was sitting on the john. The groomsmen made me do it. Jim A. > From: tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:02:09 -0400 > To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Wedding Photographer: The Lowliest Profession? > > http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/heehee.jpg > > On a side note, you'll be happy to know I mixed up a batch of PMK today > without killing myself (thanks Mark). > > tv > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Zoom Lens Query
Shel wrote: > A friend of mine has a ZX-7 fitted with a third-party 28~200 > consumer-grade zoom. He would like to get a better quality zoom in > the (approximately) 80~200 range. His son is going to be performing > at a club, and after checking the venue that focal range seems > appropriate. Here are the requirements: > Excellent optics that will hold good definition and contrast with > prints up to 16x20; > Fastest glass possible with consideration to being able to easily > hand-hold the lens or (perhaps) use on a monopod and provide > reasonably good viewfinder brightness; > Autofocus not necessary but could be helpful; > Price is a secondary concern, but not irrelevant. Hi Shel, Don't know if you need any more help on this, but for what it's worth, I echo the sentiments of a few others on the list in endorsing the SMC-A 70-210/4. I've got a couple of images scanned from 4x6 prints I had taken soon after acquiring this lens. One of these is a previous PUG submission and can be found at http://pug.komkon.org/01may/BMX.html. Not the best photo I've taken recently, and not a terribly good scan, but it may give you an idea of what one can do -- maybe a worst-case scenario? :-) -- with this lens hand-held. The shot is pretty heavily cropped and represents about a 2x3 area of the original 4x6 print. This was shot from a distance of perhaps 70 to 100 feet (??) or so IIRC. Ambient lighting in this shot is possibly similar to what you might encounter in some parts of a nightclub. Didn't mention this in the comments, but I used a Sunpak 433D flash. The other shot I can show you is an entirely different theme -- this one an uncropped, scanned image from another 4x6 print, taken indoors with bounced flash from a distance of about 8 or 10 feet at 210mm and f/4 IIRC. I don't have this second one posted anywhere, but could e-mail it to you if you'd like to take a look. This second one might give you a better feel for edge-to-edge resolution (excellent), light fall-off (very little, as you might expect at 210mm), etc. I've got some more recent shots from a youth tee-ball game in which I supported camera and lens on a Bogen 3218 monopod. These were taken outdoors in the very early evening (around dusk), mostly at f/5.6 or f/8. Don't have any of these scanned, but I was really pleased with resolution and color rendition and saturation (even on the 4x6 prints!). I wouldn't hesitate enlarging these to 16x20. Hope this helps. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF080C
Was this a portrait of Homer S? -Original Message- From: dave o'brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 August 2001 15:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AF080C Hi list, I've just picked up an AF080C ring flash for macro for HKD 1,000 (~USD 130). I can't find much info on the web about it, just Boz's K-mount page. Does anyone have any more info on it? maybe an operating manual? (Although it seems quite straightforward.) Already managed to get a portrait with doughnut shaped highlights in the eyes... dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: USM Lenses (Re: Is Pentax About to Release New Lenses?)
A scroll of mail from Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:41:52 +0200 Read it? y > But this would make the camera AF motor to spin and make noise taking > away the main benefit of USM; silent operation. All the camera needs > to know is that an USM lens is mounted. This can easily be achieved > with the current info transfer between lens and body. When such a > lens is mounted it will disengage the camera AF motor. But this is only for new bodies which recognise this. Older bodies will still spin the AF screw. This will probably not be as noisy as powering a lens from it, as the screw will be under minimal load. This is sort of my point - the ability to take USM lenses is already there and it wouldn't require any camera mods to work. Of course it would work *better* with a body designed specifically to do it, but you'll still be able to stick your FA*USM lens on an LX, PZ, or MZ body and have it work as well as that body can drive it. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
Well, my most productive must be the pz1p with 28-70/4. That's the combo that's ready to go in my bag at all times, coming in close second would be the same body with my 80-200/4. The only other body that I currently own would be the k1000 although I use it ~almost~ equally with the z1p. Least used lens would definetly be the m28/2.8. Nick - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: lamp black??
Where in the hell did you get the absurd idea that we were talking about scratches? Are you using some kind of lame software that prevents you from attaching the quote that you're attacking for reference? Carbon black is an order of magnitude softer than the coatings on your lenses. It will not abrade them. As to the glass, the hardest substance on the face of the earth is diamond, followed by quartz, followed by glass. The idea that uncrystalized loose aggregates of carbon atoms would scratch glass is laughable. Diamond may be a crystalline form of carbon, but non crystalline carbon is quite another thing. Uncrystalized carbon (from soot or whatever) is way down the list. You cannot remove scratches with carbon black. Period. If what one has is a scratch, only replacement of the element will cure the problem. Carbon black will remove many residues adhering to the surface of a lens. Further, it will absorb some oils which are otherwise nearly impossible to remove. The "cleaning marks" that looked like scratches that I removed from my lens were, in reality, not scratches. They were residue similar to mineral water marks. The coating on the rear element was completely unharmed as revealed by an even, unperturbed reflection of the original color from the coating. Carbon black has been used by photographers from Mathew Brady on. This is not some new invention of mine. I used the carbon black on the advice of a Pentax trained technician. Regards, Bob... From: "Scooterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm coming late to this thread... so excuse me while I catch up. > > Why in the world would one want to use this stuff on their $200-$3,000 > lens?? To remove scratches??? You can't. Bad cleaning can, however > It's an abrasive for sure. Sounds like it's finer than Jewlers Rouge or > 3,000 grit diamond polish (hard to find lately). > > But the last time I checked, most folks aren't proficient at > grinding/polishing glass plus it's still in the body, so you'll get a > falling off on the polish job at the edges. > > And how can one get a lens so deeply scratched that they'd attempt such a > "repair" theirself?? I saw the posts where some people can't touch a > camera unless they play Rugby with it... but your favorite lens?? > > For a source of lamp black... what's the problem with getting an el-cheapo > kerosene oil lamp & smoke the chimney till ya have enough to do your deed? > (I collect such lamps, & believe me, it don't take but a minute for em to > smoke the glass). Which is why I have the questions I've rubbed the > glass chimneys & that (cast) glass don't look a whit better for it. > > Does it have to be lamp black?? What about the "old trick" of using > newsprint on your car windows? Granted, it's an old trick because today's > papers don't have much (if any) residual ink on em ... and the fiber > content (rag) is probably so low that's it's akin to your old polyester > pants. > > I dunno about some of the stuff I read on here usually, I can get by > with a lipstick brush & a good, clean, cotton handkerchief... & maybe the > moisture from my breath (not spit). > > Scratching his head in Detroit > Scoot > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
OK, I'll play. > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Paul Jones wrote: > > > What is your most productive body and lense combo? > LX or KX with 50 mm f1.4 (100 macro a close second on the lens) > > Whats your least productive body and lense combo, which really should > > have been productive. 400 mm tele. A gorgeous lens but I couldn't get a sharp shot even with fast film without it's collar on on the tripod to save my soul. Even with the tripod it was hard on me to get the focus right. I eventually sold it on ebay - in fact, it was the first thing I sold on ebay almost 3 years ago. I thought if I put the 400 mm on my ZX-5 I'd get 4 100 mm lenses, but even in dark storage they never produced. Bummer. ann "I just can't resist a wisecrack" san - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Problems and Complaints
K1000: Used it some months. Flawless. MX: Used it for about a year. At the end it started with erratic working meter and one gross frames overlap. LX 1: Problem related to battery juice. 90 usd repair. Working great now. LX 2: Bought to list member. The bumpers are degradated (the circular one is not more circular, and was surrounded by a sticky fluid). The focus at infinity is somewhat off. It's noticeable with ultrawides and less with wides. The pictures come out apparently right but I 'm not fully sure about it. I know sticky mirror will show up soon. Lenses: All flawless Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
AF080C
Hi list, I've just picked up an AF080C ring flash for macro for HKD 1,000 (~USD 130). I can't find much info on the web about it, just Boz's K-mount page. Does anyone have any more info on it? maybe an operating manual? (Although it seems quite straightforward.) Already managed to get a portrait with doughnut shaped highlights in the eyes... dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pictures are lame
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 at 15:10:31 -0400, Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suggest that folks do their editing in the view finder. If you > don't see a picture there, it is for sure there won't be one on the > film. Food for thought! I've been cogitating rather hard lately over why my photographs barely qualify as "snapshots" for the most part, and your remark is the most to-the-point advice I can imagine. But then I look at my beloved sister's snapshots taken with a throwaway and wonder if she even knew there was a view finder! Most of them look like she aimed the thing in the general direction of the subject and pressed the button without looking through the finder at all. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
tele photo lens FA 600 f 4
Hi list I'm new on this list, (I normally use Contax) I'm interested on the FA 600 f4,0 tele photo lens. Any Comments ? cheers Dieter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: lamp black??
Well, Scoot, carbon black is good stuff for cleaning - not polishing - lenses. It's softer than glass and the coatings used on most contemporary lenses, so it won't scratch 'em. Newer lenses with high quality coatings can withstand a lot of "abuse" and pentax coatings are amongst the most durable in the world. But back to carbon black ... the stuff that's been discussed is not lamp black, per your explanation of it. Lamp black contains contaminants that pure carbon black does not contain. Just to put this in perspective, there's a wonderful little item called a Lens Pen, which is made/marketed by several companies (including Kodak) which has a brush on one end and a small tool for applying carbon black on the other. It's a great way to get crud off one's lens. I keep one in my Domke bag at all times. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do?" Scooterman wrote: > > I'm coming late to this thread... so excuse me while I catch up. > > Why in the world would one want to use this stuff on their $200-$3,000 > lens?? To remove scratches??? > > It's an abrasive for sure. Sounds like it's finer than Jewlers Rouge or > 3,000 grit diamond polish (hard to find lately). > > But the last time I checked, most folks aren't proficient at > grinding/polishing glass plus it's still in the body, so you'll get a > falling off on the polish job at the edges. > > And how can one get a lens so deeply scratched that they'd attempt such a > "repair" theirself?? I saw the posts where some people can't touch a > camera unless they play Rugby with it... but your favorite lens?? > > For a source of lamp black... what's the problem with getting an el-cheapo > kerosene oil lamp & smoke the chimney till ya have enough to do your deed? > (I collect such lamps, & believe me, it don't take but a minute for em to > smoke the glass). Which is why I have the questions I've rubbed the > glass chimneys & that (cast) glass don't look a whit better for it. > > Does it have to be lamp black?? What about the "old trick" of using > newsprint on your car windows? Granted, it's an old trick because today's > papers don't have much (if any) residual ink on em ... and the fiber > content (rag) is probably so low that's it's akin to your old polyester > pants. > > I dunno about some of the stuff I read on here usually, I can get by > with a lipstick brush & a good, clean, cotton handkerchief... & maybe the > moisture from my breath (not spit). > > Scratching his head in Detroit > Scoot > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled
DON'T DO IT! Unless you spend >$1000 each, you won't get lenses that will compare to those 6x7 Mamiya and Pentax lenses! Unless of course your old RB lenses are Pre-C, then just upgrade them. That'll be cheaper. jmnsho, Collin >From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Enabled > > >Maybe I'll ditch 6x7 entirely and get a 4x5 system with a 6x9 >back. > >Cheers, > >- - Dave * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pic O' The Week
Dan Scott wrote: > Very cinematic. Who's that guy, why is he so scary, and what's > going to happen when he gets down here? Must be the Wal-Mart plain-clothes security guard, coming to tell you that you're not allowed to take photographs inside the store without a signed release from corporate headquarters. :-P Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: lamp black??
I'm coming late to this thread... so excuse me while I catch up. Why in the world would one want to use this stuff on their $200-$3,000 lens?? To remove scratches??? It's an abrasive for sure. Sounds like it's finer than Jewlers Rouge or 3,000 grit diamond polish (hard to find lately). But the last time I checked, most folks aren't proficient at grinding/polishing glass plus it's still in the body, so you'll get a falling off on the polish job at the edges. And how can one get a lens so deeply scratched that they'd attempt such a "repair" theirself?? I saw the posts where some people can't touch a camera unless they play Rugby with it... but your favorite lens?? For a source of lamp black... what's the problem with getting an el-cheapo kerosene oil lamp & smoke the chimney till ya have enough to do your deed? (I collect such lamps, & believe me, it don't take but a minute for em to smoke the glass). Which is why I have the questions I've rubbed the glass chimneys & that (cast) glass don't look a whit better for it. Does it have to be lamp black?? What about the "old trick" of using newsprint on your car windows? Granted, it's an old trick because today's papers don't have much (if any) residual ink on em ... and the fiber content (rag) is probably so low that's it's akin to your old polyester pants. I dunno about some of the stuff I read on here usually, I can get by with a lipstick brush & a good, clean, cotton handkerchief... & maybe the moisture from my breath (not spit). Scratching his head in Detroit Scoot - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?
Bruce Dayton wrote: > It > sounds like the rule of thumb is if you shoot lots of low light stuff, the > OTF is very valuable, but if you are shooting brighter stuff, it is no > better than any other center weighted meter. Does that sound right to you > LX owners? Sounds about right. Of course, it's been better for my brighter stuff than anything else I've used to date, but that ain't sayin' all that much. ;) I actually left the LX on auto for the whole weekend at Goat Island, only dialing in exposure compensation for a couple of backlit subjects...and wow, it did great. I think I'll be leaving it on auto more and more often. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Zoom Lens Query
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Excellent optics that will hold good definition and contrast with > prints up to 16x20; > > Fastest glass possible with consideration to being able to easily > hand-hold the lens or (perhaps) use on a monopod and provide > reasonably good viewfinder brightness; > Another possibility is loaning him a > second body and the A*200/2.8 in addition to the M75~150, but it may > be cumbersome for him to handle two cameras. When I go club-shooting, I just take the A*200mm f2.8 , 50mm f1.4 and a few wides...the 200 for shooting from the middle/back of the crowd, and the wides for shooting right up at the stage, the 50mm for if it's real real real dark. With the A*, I usually shoot wide open, on a monopod, 1/30 sec with film pushed to whatever speed is needed, most clubs being 1600 to 6400, but if you're going to the Snooty Fox or the Hudson in Hamilton you'll need 12,800 or more, cuz it's darker than dark in there. ;) Anyone who's been to the shop has seen the 16x20 up on the wall shot this way (it's Delta 3200 pushed to 12,800, so I wanted to make a big-ish print to really see how grainy it was). It isn't tack sharp, but that's more movement than anything else. Viewed at regular viewing distance, it's great. I've got a couple of scans of this stuff online, so if you want to see the results I can send you a link. Anyhow, my advice is forget the zooms, take that A* 200mm f2.8 and a 50mm f1.4 and maybe a wide or two. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled
Doug Brewer wrote: > My dream set up is still the 67II and the old SMC Tak 200/4. Is that lens any good? I passed one up for $200 (Canadian, that's like $125 US or so) because I'm mostly into wides, it was older, the minimum focus was worse than the 105 f2.4, and I didn't really have a loose $200. -Aaron p.s. congrats, Brian, on the 67! Enjoy it, and welcome to the world of big negs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Carbon Black
I have toyed with calligraphy, having practiced many years. Ink is basically pigment (usually carbon black or various salts of iron for black) plus water plus a binder (almost always a gum arabic , shellac, etc). There may be other additives. For cleaning camera lenses, we don't want the water, binder(s) or any other additives. We want nearly pure, ultra fine carbon powder. Regards, Bob... From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a message dated 13/08/01 12:10:48 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << If what you are talking about is some sort of > oriental stick ink, don't use it. It has a binder of some type in it. Carbon > (or bone, or lamp) black has no binder. It is not powdered or stick ink. DO > NOT USE ORIENTAL STICK INKS. > >> > Ok, then, I won't. Even I can get the powder not from stick - that won't have > a binding agent, do you think? > Shuji is a fine art - calligraphy I think is the generic name - one must > practise many years to obtain license. > I think Mr Ueda can tell you more about this, if you need to know. > > Kind regards > > Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG comments (or lack thereof)
Hi all Sorry, but I won´t be able to comment on my assigned photos. My computer at work doesn´t let me see the full size images anymore, and there´s no way to fix this right now. Anyway, from the thumbnails, I can say we have a very nice August PUG! Luis __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA-1 finder innards, final resolution.
Cesar, as long as it works, that`s all that counts! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Matamoros, Cesar A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: RE: FA-1 finder innards, final resolution. > Steve, > > Yes I did. There are four washers total and I got two of them where > I think they belog. WIth everything loose I did not feel like taking > another FA-1 to see where everything went. I used and reused the dial and > shook the finder about to see if there was an apparent placing for the spare > washers. > > Thanks for the enabling, well at least it is not as expensive as the > 77 I ordered. > > César Matamoros II > Panama City, Florida > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steve Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:43 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: FA-1 finder innards, final resolution. > > > > Cesar, did you really have parts left over? I`m glad you got it working! > > I enable you for the FA-2. Simple eh? > > Steve Larson > > Redondo Beach, California > > - Original Message - > > From: "Matamoros, Cesar A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Pentax'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:41 AM > > Subject: FA-1 finder innards, final resolution. > > > > > > > Thank you Steve L. for giving me the encouragement to take the FA-1 > > > apart. The rattle was the diopter correcting glass. It was fun taking > > the > > > whole assembly apart. H, how do all these washers go back in? Is > > it > > > efficiency if you have parts left over? > > > > > > I ended up having to do three trial runs of placement of the diopter > > > glass and the gearing for the diopter dial, but the finder is now > > allowing > > > me to focus properly. It is great having a couple of extra finders to > > check > > > your work. > > > > > > Thanks again, but how do I talk myself back into getting an FA-2? > > > Wait a minute, with this group enabling is always just a keystroke away. > > I > > > only have the three FA-1s, so I really should get the FA-2, I rarely use > > the > > > hotshoe since I normally use the AF400T with them. > > > > > > César Matamoros II > > > Panama City, Florida > > > > > > P.S. By the way, I was in a restaurant and decided to try out the AF on > > the > > > MZ-S with the 77 on a neon sign up on a wall. I basically just placed > > the > > > camera on the table for support and roughly pointed it in the proper > > > direction and fired. Nice shot. > > > I put the 77 on the LX and did the same placement, THEN, I took off > > > the finder and composed and focused using the focusing screen. Nice > > shot! > > > It is probably only the third time I have ever done that. Nowadays > > people > > > just look at you and say REMOVABLE finder? > > > > > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Most productive - how about the most Fun
"Most fun" is definitely a more fun question. Not to mention easier to answer! For me, an MZ with my Sigma 18-35 zoom is the "most fun" combo. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Welcome to pentax-discuss
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, William Robb wrote: > I understand only 6 MZ-S cameras were brought in to Western > Canada. The > > Pentax rep has one... so only 5 went into retailers. You have > one, I have one > > and I wonder where the other 3 are? > > Don's Photo in Regina brought one in for me to have a look at. I > don't know if they still have it. It may have been the reps > camera FAIK > William Robb Nope, that was ours. I'm not sure about the "6" figure. Either Manitoba and Saskatchewan don't count as western provinces, or we got at least 3 or 4 out of the 6, which is unlikely. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?
Hi, consider a lens with a slowly closing aperture or a 3rd party lens which has a poor aperture simulation function. The LX will produce pictures with correct amount of light ! A camera without OTF can't do that. I had myself the bug with the slow aperture blades. The meter showed 1/60 but the shot was much faster detected from the sound. It took some time until I found the reason: the aperture blades closed down only a bit up to the time when the shutter is open. With another camera I could forget about the shot, but with the LX only the DOF was smaller than planned. regards Bernd Tonghang Zhou wrote: ... > But I don't > understand why the OTF metering is that useful, considering > especially how much this feature costs in the Olympus OM > cameras. ... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?)
Michel, The time window of darkness without moon is definately short between half moons. But why give up a good night completely? What latitude do you live at, btw? Jostein > -Original Message- > From: Michel Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] > As for the moon, do you have a trick? I'd like to increase > the number of > nights I can shoot, > but I find that the moon washes out the sky in no time at > all, and have > resorted to simply > not shoot between half moons. ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
most used presently: Pentax ME Super, w Tokina ATX 80-200/2.8. Made the most money with: Mamiya Universal, w 100/2.8, Polaroid and 6x7 backs is a toss up with Polaroid ID-2, neither of which I have any longer. Least used: Ricohflex (never, and I can't think why that is). --Tom > Paul Jones wrote: > > Hi, > > Since we have been having a trend of user surveys/questions, I have > one. > > What is your most productive body and lense combo? > > Also: > > Whats your least productive body and lense combo, which really should > have been productive. > > My most productive combo is: Spotmatic SP and Super Takumar 55/1.8 > > > Cyas -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FA-1 finder innards, final resolution.
Steve, Yes I did. There are four washers total and I got two of them where I think they belog. WIth everything loose I did not feel like taking another FA-1 to see where everything went. I used and reused the dial and shook the finder about to see if there was an apparent placing for the spare washers. Thanks for the enabling, well at least it is not as expensive as the 77 I ordered. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: Steve Larson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FA-1 finder innards, final resolution. > > Cesar, did you really have parts left over? I`m glad you got it working! > I enable you for the FA-2. Simple eh? > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California > - Original Message - > From: "Matamoros, Cesar A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Pentax'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:41 AM > Subject: FA-1 finder innards, final resolution. > > > > Thank you Steve L. for giving me the encouragement to take the FA-1 > > apart. The rattle was the diopter correcting glass. It was fun taking > the > > whole assembly apart. H, how do all these washers go back in? Is > it > > efficiency if you have parts left over? > > > > I ended up having to do three trial runs of placement of the diopter > > glass and the gearing for the diopter dial, but the finder is now > allowing > > me to focus properly. It is great having a couple of extra finders to > check > > your work. > > > > Thanks again, but how do I talk myself back into getting an FA-2? > > Wait a minute, with this group enabling is always just a keystroke away. > I > > only have the three FA-1s, so I really should get the FA-2, I rarely use > the > > hotshoe since I normally use the AF400T with them. > > > > César Matamoros II > > Panama City, Florida > > > > P.S. By the way, I was in a restaurant and decided to try out the AF on > the > > MZ-S with the 77 on a neon sign up on a wall. I basically just placed > the > > camera on the table for support and roughly pointed it in the proper > > direction and fired. Nice shot. > > I put the 77 on the LX and did the same placement, THEN, I took off > > the finder and composed and focused using the focusing screen. Nice > shot! > > It is probably only the third time I have ever done that. Nowadays > people > > just look at you and say REMOVABLE finder? > > > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Problems and Complaints
And that is the problem with electronic based cameras. Anyone want to guess the price of a one-off integrated circuit? There are no aftermarket parts for the same reason you can not get them for your Ferrari, the market is too small to make it worth while. For mechanical cameras I could direct you to a couple of places that will fabricate parts for you if you are willing to pay for them. Ces de vive, --Tom Takehiko Ueda wrote: > Maybe the patent problem? Anyway, in the case of the LX, > Pentax claims that the main reason for stopping its > production is difficulty in securing the parts, especially > electronic ones. After considering the ten years, they had > to decide to stop producing. -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?)
I meant to say that the presence of the moon washes out the sky where the aurora display is taking place, and I cant get decent dark sky then. I dont think there is anything that can be done about it. It can certainly improve the landscape lighting, but the conditions must be just right (moon at your back, reasonably low on the horizon, with the aurora happening on the other side of the sky. Michel - Original Message - From: "Bob Rapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:32 AM Subject: Re: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?) Re "shooting the moon" The moon is illuminated by the same light as the earth. The "F16" rule applies. Add a 1/2 stop increase for moon rise and fall. For moon scapes expose first for the moon then block the moon and make a second exposure using the OTF. - Original Message - From: "Michel Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: RE: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?) [...] > As for the moon, do you have a trick? I'd like to increase the number of > nights I can shoot, > but I find that the moon washes out the sky in no time at all, and have > resorted to simply > not shoot between half moons. > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Most productive - how about the most Fun
For me, productive means ease and flexibility of use. It is hard to go past my LX with either a 28 or 35 mm lens. However, the most fun comes from my old Spotmatics. It is kind of like your first bike or your favourite blanket. The memories and my level of creativity and adventure return when ever I pick one of the those gems up. Hence my old FUNtax Spotmatic and 55 f1.8 lens. Regards, Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?)
Re "shooting the moon" The moon is illuminated by the same light as the earth. The "F16" rule applies. Add a 1/2 stop increase for moon rise and fall. For moon scapes expose first for the moon then block the moon and make a second exposure using the OTF. - Original Message - From: "Michel Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: RE: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?) > > Would it not result in a more detailed, less 'diffuse' image of the aurora > if the exposure > was kept as short as possible, i.e. with the largest f-stop possible? At 245 > seconds, > (that is over 4 minutes!), I have seen auroral curtains move half way across > the sky (actually, > right off the frame when using a 15mm), and have had to resort to the 16mm > fisheye on the LX, > and the Arsat 30mm fisheye on the 645, all of them wide open. > > Being shot at infinity, using wide angles, this should take care of the > foreground being in > focus as well, even wide open, no? > > As for the moon, do you have a trick? I'd like to increase the number of > nights I can shoot, > but I find that the moon washes out the sky in no time at all, and have > resorted to simply > not shoot between half moons. > > When you mention pushing with E100VS, do you exceed 1 stop ? And do you have > any views on > Elitechrome 200 ? > > As for the film flatness, I fear that cold temperatures will simply > exacerbate the problems. > One would need to keep the camera back warm without affecting the optics, > assuming it makes > a noticeable difference. > > Michel > > -Original Message- > Subject: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to > you?) > > > > Do you find it a problem that the city lights will shorten the > > > exposure too much when trying to get the Aurora on film? > > > Pål wrote: > > > I avoid city lights when shooting auroras. I prefer no signs of the "hand > of man" in > > my pictures. I do, howewer, usually include parts of the landscape in my > aurora > > images; I treat it as landscape photography. I don't go for those grainy > and fuzzy > > aurora pictures usually published but aim for landscape images that can > take enlargement. > > > > When not using the OTF metering, do you have a preferred routine > > > for exposing, i.e. 5, 10, 15, 30 sec, f/1.4 sort of thing ? > > > I determine exposure by using the LX then dial in that exposure on my > 645n. I use > > exposure compensation on the LX; usually minus 2/3 stop because I don't > want it to > > look light daylight; you need the night feel. I does depend though on how > powerful > > the Aurora is. If its very bright I might not compensate at all because > the meter > > treat it like any backlit subject and will give the desired > "underexposure". The degree > > of compensation depends of course on the reciprocity characteristics of > the film. > > I use the lens at F:4 because wider apertures don't give desired > sharpness. The 645n > > is a totall hit and miss (mostly miss) affair because of film flatness > problems that > > seems unsolveable (more of that in another post). > > > > > > And which emulsion(s) do you find gives better results? > > > > Kodak E100VS by a far margin. Give the most realistic colors due to its > blue bias. > > The Aurora is very green (usually) but our brains compensate for it. By > using a more > > neutral film the result is far greener than our brain experience the > phenomena. The > > Ektachrome E-emulsion also have excellent reciprocity chracteristics also > the way it > > renders blue yields punchy images. It also reacts well to pushing. At 100 > ISO and F:4 > > shutter speed varies typically from 90s (full moon) to 245s. > > > > Pål > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: 100mm Macro Lenses
Hi Alin, Thanks for the Idea to use tape to disable the autofocus, my only worry is that the contacts are becomming durty. Gert Jan Bollen Hi Gert, Place a duct tape on the lens mount over the autofocus shaft and the first contact near it, and your F 100/2.8 turns into an A 100/2.8 featuring the focus trap capability. Servus, Alin gert wrote: gjbpc> I recently bought the SMC F 100mm 2,8. Yes I like the extra gjbpc> speed and the AF for normal distance pictures, but the focus gjbpc> trap does not work since you can not put the lens to manual gjbpc> focusing! Gert Jan Bollen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Carbon Black
In a message dated 13/08/01 12:10:48 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << If what you are talking about is some sort of oriental stick ink, don't use it. It has a binder of some type in it. Carbon (or bone, or lamp) black has no binder. It is not powdered or stick ink. DO NOT USE ORIENTAL STICK INKS. >> Ok, then, I won't. Even I can get the powder not from stick - that won't have a binding agent, do you think? Shuji is a fine art - calligraphy I think is the generic name - one must practise many years to obtain license. I think Mr Ueda can tell you more about this, if you need to know. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Zoom Lens Query
Various posters asked "How about the A70-210/4?" Well, as some have already written, it's a fabulous lens. Nice handling and build, very sharp indeed, and pleasant rendering of out-of-focus backgrounds (and sometimes subjects but that's nothing to do with the lens!). In my experience with it the fact that at 210mm it still gives f/4 is a significant advantage when hand-holding. It even uses small 58mm filters (so why not have a modern AF version with 58mm filter size?) Regards Jim E-MAILS are susceptible to interference. You should not assume that the contents originated from the sender or the Zetex Group or that they have been accurately reproduced from their original form. Zetex accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this e-mail nor for its use or misuse nor for any act committed or omitted in connection with this communication. If in doubt, please verify the authenticity with the sender. Visit our new look website at http://www.zetex.com Bigger and better with improved functionality - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled
Having had a 6X7, Hasselbald, Horseman 970, plus both field and monorail 4X5s and presently have a Horseman VHR with a 65 f4.5 Grandagon, 10 and 180 Sironar Ns, I would dearly rather have the old 6X7 or a newer 67 back. The Horseman with 6X7 and 6X9 backs deliver some fantastic images and the view camera like controls offers extreme controllability. However it is not as connivent to use as the 6X7. If Studio work is all you do, the RB is fine. However in the field, you will find that RB stands for "Real Big / Real Bitch ". Like the 35s, the 6X7 is easy to keep clean and does not require the gentle loving care as those cameras with leaf shutters. As soon as I can find a buyer for the Horseman or at least the 65 and 180 lenses, I will get back into the 6X7 Pentax again. I will probably keep the Horseman with the 100 mm lens as that is my primary lens. The 65 and 180 lenses were bought new had have only been used on 3 or 4 occasions. - Original Message - From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Enabled > Doug Brewer writes: > > > > Man, I'm so envious. I've been trying to figure out how to get into 6X7. I have > > to admit to having even looked at other brands, just to get that big negative. > > (Note to Dave: Nope, don't want an RB67, thanks) My dream set up is still the > > 67II and the old SMC Tak 200/4. Maybe some day... > > Damn... why not? :) The RB is built like a tank, much like the old Pentax 67 > only heavier, I think. And once you've used the rotating back and all-leaf- > shutter lens system you'll never go back (until you can afford a 67II). > > I'm still having trouble deciding between a 67II and a Mamiya RZ kit once I've > sold the RB. Maybe I'll ditch 6x7 entirely and get a 4x5 system with a 6x9 > back. Then I get the option of a huge slide, as well as control over perspective > and focal planes. > > Cheers, > > > - Dave > > David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) > http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ > > "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, > while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FONG: WTB list
Subject: WTB: Pentax SF-1N accessories Date: 12 Aug 2001 15:59:19 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B. Melick) Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm I am looking for the following Asahi Pentax accessories for a Pentax SF-1N SLR autofocus camera: 50mm 1:4 or 50mm 1:7 lens fish-eye lens (possibly 17-28mm Fisheye zoom) rubber eyecup AA battery grip Please e-mail me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with condition and prices. Thanks. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
At 01:15 AM 8/13/01 -0400, you wrote: >From: "Paul Jones" < >Subject: Most Productive Gear? Most productive? A50/1.4 on ZX-M Least productive? Canon G-III (But definitely most practical in many instances) Most fun & Most time-consuming? Busch with 135/5.6 Schneider Symmar and 210 Ilex Caltar * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
Hmmm... let me think... My LX with the SMC 15/3.5 I think (or alternatively with the A* 300/2.8). Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 400 789753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 2 413 * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Carbon Black
I don't know what shugi is, but what we want here is nearly pure carbon in as fine a powder as possible. If what you are talking about is some sort of oriental stick ink, don't use it. It has a binder of some type in it. Carbon (or bone, or lamp) black has no binder. It is not powdered or stick ink. DO NOT USE ORIENTAL STICK INKS. Regards, Bob... From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a message dated 12/08/01 04:53:02 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I bought it at a calligraphy store. It may be labeled lamp black or bone > black. The smallest bottle will clean 10,000 lenses. If you spill it, your > wife will divorce you. >> > > Might this be the same product as the one used when writing shuji? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?
Hi, On 11 Aug 2001, at 19:13:17 -0700 (PDT), Tonghang Zhou wrote: > I have some LXes and very pleased with them. But I don't > understand why the OTF metering is that useful, considering > especially how much this feature costs in the Olympus OM > cameras. Have a look at my submission to the LX Gallery. It's a bit unusual shot for sure, but try to do it with any other (built-into-camera) metering system. > After all, almost every scence you expose is imperfect > for an averaging meter. They are not 18% grey throughout > (or should it be 13%?) > I often find myself having to set the exposure manually My LX also has an exp. compensation dial on the left side of the top plate. What about Yours? > So I guess I don't know how to take advantage of the OTF > metering in non-flash photography. AFAIK all TTL flash systems use OTF. > Now, a spot meter which lets you hold the exposure, seems > to make better sense. Like the Z?-5n. A different tool for different tasks. Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
Most productive is my LX with Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5. (I do a lot of portraiture and a lot of macro. This lens is superb for both.) My least productive camera is my Spotmatic Motor Drive, but only because I choose not to use it. It's a fine camera. Paul > Paul Jones wrote: > > Hi, > > Since we have been having a trend of user surveys/questions, I have > one. > > What is your most productive body and lense combo? > > Also: > > Whats your least productive body and lense combo, which really should > have been productive. > > My most productive combo is: Spotmatic SP and Super Takumar 55/1.8 > > > Cyas - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled
Brian writes: > the reasons I chose the 67II are, first, it > FEELS right. I can't get used to the Box style cameras (Mamiya, > Bronica, Hasselblad) - the shutter release is a bit strange for this > former 35mm-only shooter. It does depend on how you use it. I find the RB is easiest to use handheld without its left-hand grip no matter which viewfinder I'm using (waist level or prism). With the grip it puts too much strain on the wrist due to its weight. However, mine spends 99% of its time on a tripod shooting landscapes. In this case the rotating back is a godsend. No need to unbalance the rig by tilting the head 90 degrees for portrait orientation. And with the mirror locked up, the leaf shutters result in no chance of camera shake. I've given up on the idea of interchangeable backs because I shoot E100SW (or Provia 100F) all the time anyway. > Second, Cost. The 67II with AE-II > metered prism finder (which I found to be very accurate) and 105mm > F2.4 Lens is about the same cost as a Hassy body. No finder, no > backs, just the body. Yeah I know :) Hassy stuff is unbelievably expensive. I don't have prices for RZ gear handy but I think that's comparable to the 67II in price. I'm leaning very heavily toward a 67II because they are very popular down here and there is a ton of secondhand glass available. Plus I'll be able to submit 6x7 to the PUG without bending the rules :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Enabled
RK writes: > Hi David, > Any thoughts on why Hasselblad (oops- forgot those asterisks!) is never mentioned in > the discussion re moving up to medium format? Presumably because Pentax don't make a 6x6 so we don't talk about it much on this list :) Some people swear by the square format, others can't figure it out. It's really up to you which you prefer. If 6x6 is your thing then (apparently) Hasselblad is about as good as you can get. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?)
Would it not result in a more detailed, less 'diffuse' image of the aurora if the exposure was kept as short as possible, i.e. with the largest f-stop possible? At 245 seconds, (that is over 4 minutes!), I have seen auroral curtains move half way across the sky (actually, right off the frame when using a 15mm), and have had to resort to the 16mm fisheye on the LX, and the Arsat 30mm fisheye on the 645, all of them wide open. Being shot at infinity, using wide angles, this should take care of the foreground being in focus as well, even wide open, no? As for the moon, do you have a trick? I'd like to increase the number of nights I can shoot, but I find that the moon washes out the sky in no time at all, and have resorted to simply not shoot between half moons. When you mention pushing with E100VS, do you exceed 1 stop ? And do you have any views on Elitechrome 200 ? As for the film flatness, I fear that cold temperatures will simply exacerbate the problems. One would need to keep the camera back warm without affecting the optics, assuming it makes a noticeable difference. Michel -Original Message- Subject: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?) > > Do you find it a problem that the city lights will shorten the > > exposure too much when trying to get the Aurora on film? Pål wrote: > I avoid city lights when shooting auroras. I prefer no signs of the "hand of man" in > my pictures. I do, howewer, usually include parts of the landscape in my aurora > images; I treat it as landscape photography. I don't go for those grainy and fuzzy > aurora pictures usually published but aim for landscape images that can take enlargement. > > When not using the OTF metering, do you have a preferred routine > > for exposing, i.e. 5, 10, 15, 30 sec, f/1.4 sort of thing ? > I determine exposure by using the LX then dial in that exposure on my 645n. I use > exposure compensation on the LX; usually minus 2/3 stop because I don't want it to > look light daylight; you need the night feel. I does depend though on how powerful > the Aurora is. If its very bright I might not compensate at all because the meter > treat it like any backlit subject and will give the desired "underexposure". The degree > of compensation depends of course on the reciprocity characteristics of the film. > I use the lens at F:4 because wider apertures don't give desired sharpness. The 645n > is a totall hit and miss (mostly miss) affair because of film flatness problems that > seems unsolveable (more of that in another post). > > > And which emulsion(s) do you find gives better results? > Kodak E100VS by a far margin. Give the most realistic colors due to its blue bias. > The Aurora is very green (usually) but our brains compensate for it. By using a more > neutral film the result is far greener than our brain experience the phenomena. The > Ektachrome E-emulsion also have excellent reciprocity chracteristics also the way it > renders blue yields punchy images. It also reacts well to pushing. At 100 ISO and F:4 > shutter speed varies typically from 90s (full moon) to 245s. > Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Most Productive Gear?
This depends largely on what I work with... Productivity is closely linked to choosing the right tool for a task. Lately I have done lots of flowers in cultural landscape, which means that the 645 + 120 macro is the preferred combo. The least used house these days must be the MX. Usually there's a M-100mm on that one. But ask again in half a year... If I'm in the middle of some astro project the MX will probably be the most used. Jostein ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Most Productive Gear?
Overall 55mm 1.8 Tak + Pentax SL + Wide angle / Tele adapter Last 6 month Pentax MX + Large back + Motor drive + 35 - 80mm 2.8 Tamron Macro 2:1 Least Pentax LX + Motor Drive + Digi Back-2 (Chinon) + 28mm --- --- Hi, at the moment I'm shooting mostly with a Leica M3 + 50mm Sumicron-M lens. I have a Pentax S1a and 55/1.8 lens which I haven't used for about 15 years. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Remember, you push the shutter, don't let the shutter push you" --Walker Evans Monday, August 13, 2001, 4:35:42 AM, you wrote: > Hi, > Since we have been having a trend of user surveys/questions, I have one. > What is your most productive body and lense combo? > Also: > Whats your least productive body and lense combo, which really should have been >productive. > My most productive combo is: Spotmatic SP and Super Takumar 55/1.8 > Cyas - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .