Re: Show opening

2002-02-09 Thread Stan Halpin

Congrats! that must have been very gratifying.

Stan

> From: "Juan J. Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:29:53 -0800 (PST)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Show opening
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Some of you asked me to report on how this went, so here you go:
> 
> I had my gallery opening tonight, and it was awesome. I was amazed at the
> number of people that showed up--about 40 or so (our own Shel among them,
> sporting an LX with FA 43mm--thanks Shel for coming!). And, to add to my
> amazement, I actually _sold_ eight pictures! What are these people thinking,
> I don't know, but hey, I could use a 35mm Summicron right now :-)
> 
> We actually had to ask people to leave at the end, when the gallery people
> were trying to close.
> 
> Afterwards, a few of us went for tapas to a very good Spanish restaurant. A
> most excellent time.
> 
> Anyway, just wanted to share. Thanks to everybody who sent good wishes,
> 
> j
> 
> 
> =
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need input on SMC 45-125 f4 Zoom

2002-02-09 Thread Bgpentax

  Hi Guys...
   Does anyone have practical experience with SMC 45-125 f4 Zoom. ??
  I've run across a clean one for $ 90.00 (U.S.)..would use it on a K1000 or
  ME-Super for walk-around/portrait/candids. Is this a nice lens or a dog
  from the prehistoric zoom era.
   Thanx,
Bob G.
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Re: Sheesh..!

2002-02-09 Thread Stan Halpin

I don't get it; what is the problem? It is clearly stated as an f/2 lens, he
doesn't say anyplace that this is a fast lens, ... I don't see any problem.

BTW Juan, your mail is another example of the problem that was discussed
here last week: you say, in effect, GO SEE THIS! and never bother to say
what it is that the reader should expect to see. Instead of making it a
guessing game or assuming that everyone will see things from your
perspective, why not say something like: "I think there is a problem with a
listing on eBay, a seller says the lens is an x but it looks like it is
really a y" and we can all yawn, delete, and move on.

BTW, many sellers, intentionally or not, say 1.2 when they should say 1:2;
if you are going to be looking for a 1.2, you need to get used to such
differences between what it says on the lens and what the seller says. If
the photo doesn't show clearly which lens it is that is being offered, don't
bid. And if a lens with a $200-300 value has a BIN for $75, that should be
your first clue that maybe the lens for sale is not the one with a $200-300
value. When I was first getting into eBay and renewing photography, I bought
two or three lenses that sounded wonderful but turned out to be M42 rather
than K-mount. I eventually learned to watch for that subtle distinction
among Pentax lenses {:-;>

Stan

> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: http://www.urbancaravan.com/
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 06:28:53 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Sheesh..!
> 
> You're right, it's extremely misleading!  I hate to be cynical, but from this
> guy's description, he seems to know something about photography.  Otherwise,
> he
> wouldn't know that a 1.2 is extremely fast.  It's not like he's playing dumb -
> you know, like "I know nothing about cameras, I'm selling this for an ailing
> friend who's blind and can't use his equipment anymore", sort of thing.
> 
> I'd say this borders on fraud.  Reminds me of those auctions that mention only
> the word "Pentax" in the title and description, and when you look closely at
> the
> fuzzy pictures, you barely make out the word "Albinar", or some such.
> 
> Pretty sleazy!
> 
> regards,
> frank
> 
> "Juan J. Buhler" wrote:
> 
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1331704425
>> 
>> For $75, I was jumping at it until I noticed that the pictures are of a 50/2
>> lens. Talk about misleading descriptions.
>> 
>> And I find this just a few hours after having the chance of looking at Shel's
>> A50/1.2. It's amazing how much brighter than a 1.4 it makes the viewfinder.
>> 
>> Sheesh.
>> 
>> j
>> 
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Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread dave o'brien

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Dan Scott wrote:

> My wife has forbidden me to photograph her with the FA 100/2.8 macro. I
> comply, but it baffles me--other than a reversed l/r image what do women
> see in a photo that they haven't seen in a mirror?

Nothing, but at least the mirror image stays in the bathroom.

dave
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dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net
I sat down beside her, said hello, offered to buy her a drink... and then
natural selection reared its ugly head.
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread Brian Walsh

Tom wrote, "You're evil, and so is Mamiya USA."

Come to the dark side, tom.
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Re: The Curmudgeon Returns

2002-02-09 Thread Doug Brewer

Welcome back, Tom.

Doug
stays in trouble


At 11:50 AM -05002/8/02, T Rittenhouse  wrote, or at least typed:
>Hi all,
>
>I am back online with a new faster account. Who needs a telephone line when
>there is cable?
>
>Hope no one got into too much trouble while I was gone.
>
>Ciao,
>graywolf
-- 
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Ashwood Lake Photography
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Re: MZ-6 Australian announcement

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Ewins

Hi Kevin,
I had to search a bit, but found
"All prices listed on this site are in Australian Dollars and include 10%
Goods and Services Tax."
I am fairly sure that it is illegal to list a price that doesn't show the
full amount including GST.

Interestingly they also sell worldwide in US dollars and those procs look
like they are tax-free. The MZS is US$754.12 and the MZ3 is US$422.62 -
Heaven knows why they don't round the prices off.

Paul

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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: MZ-6 Australian announcement


> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:29:46 +1100
> "Paul Ewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > BTW for Australians interested in an MZ-S , Dirt Cheap cameras
> > (www.dirtcheapcameras.com.au) has the MZ-S for only AUD$1630.20
>
> is that including GST?
>
> Kevin
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RE: portrait lens

2002-02-09 Thread Butch Black

If you need to de-wrinkle someone Photoshop works well I am working on a
digital face lift project. If anyone would like to see examples e-mail me
and I'll send a couple of e-mail sized examples.

Butch
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RE: Photoshop

2002-02-09 Thread Butch Black

Hi;

I would use the rubber stamp tool to remove the second hand and foot. Use a
soft brush and I recommend working with the magnification at least at 100%,
200-300% is even better. Don't forget to clone out the shadows of the hand
and feet. Another nice trick you could use is to further blur the
background. The easiest way is with the history brush. Start by making a
duplicate layer (after you have cloned out the hand and foot), make sure
that the duplicate layer is highlighted (active layer) in the layers box.
Click on filter, blur, gausian blur, set the blur a little heavier then you
want, and blur. Then go to your history box (should be with the layers box)
click on your history brush, check the little box by the gausian blur( a
brush icon will appear), click the box before the gausian blur on the
history box (important) the gausian blur will disappear from the image. Take
the history brush and paint the blur where you want it. When finished use
the opacity setting to blend in to the unblured layer below it. I go for a
look a little less then I think it needs, it usually looks more natural that
way. Any more questions e-mail me.

Butch
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Re: Screwmount to K-mount

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Ewins

The one piece of advice I can give here is to buy the genuine Pentax
adapter. I have both the Pentax one and a third party one. The third party
model looks exactly the same but is very difficult to get on and off, in
fact I once had to take the entire lens mount off my MX to get it off when
it jammed in place. The Pentax one however fits much better, but costs twice
as much (but still not much in the scheme of things).

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia
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Re: unable to take "good" pictures with my PZ-1

2002-02-09 Thread tom

On 8 Feb 2002 at 6:10, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I bought a used PZ-1 in the US a few years ago but hardly used it.
> Subsequently, I moved to India and have been using it off and on, more
> as a "tourist" photographer only. 
> 



> 
> Lately, I observed that my pictures aren't any good compared to what
> fellow tourists take primarily with their P&S or sometimes with Canon
> EOS Rebel (2 of my friends have this one). Neither the focus is as
> great (clarity misses out), 

Blurry pics are due to mis-focusing and camera shake. Are you sure you're focusing 
properly, and have set a reasonable shutter speed?

> nor is the color, brightness and contrast.

Given a good exposure, this has more to do with the film and processing used than 
anything else. 

Underexposure can screw with these properties too. Are your negs well-exposed?

> Somehow, something is always missing in my pictures. 
> 

If they were in focus and well-exposed would you like them? 

> I had read quite a few books on photography while in the US 3 
> years ago and had felt that I knew what I was doing when I put the
> camera in Aperture priority mode, and click at f8 or f16. Obviously, I
> am wrong somewhere.

This should work ok if you've got enough light and you don't have the spot meter 
accidentally selected.

> 
> Then lately, I started using the 50mm/f1.7 manual focus thinking that
> the prime might be much better. The results are hardly any good
> compared to 28-200. I mostly shoot Kodak or Fuji films of speed 100 or
> 200. I have changed my developer couple of times and did see some
> difference but nothing major :-(

You need quite a bit of light to shoot at f/16 and ISO 100. Are you using a tripod?

> 
> Also, I have been able to make use of DoF and regret this. Try as hard
> as I might, I can hardly figure that something is indeed going out of
> focus at small apertures (i.e., wider openings). 

Are you saying you don't understand this, or you can't see it in the finder?

> 
> Any tips, criticism, suggestions would be more than welcome. Thanks!!
> I am relatively new to PUG and so pardom me if I have violated the
> charter/norms of the mailing list.

Welcome aboard, you're remarkably on-topic.

All I can suggest is to make sure the camera is set at a decent shutter speed if 
hand-holding (1/focal length), that the spot-meter isn't on (set it to matrix), and  
that 
exposure compensation is set to 0.

It might be helpful if you could scan and post some of these photos you're talking 
about.

Good luck.

tv
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True professional

2002-02-09 Thread Ken Archer

A photographer becomes a professional like a girl becomes a prostitute. 
 First, he does it to please himself, then to please friends and 
finally for money.--Arthur Rothstein
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Wanted: wooden grip for 6x7

2002-02-09 Thread David A. Mann

Hi all,

 I'm looking for a wooden grip for the Pentax 6x7.  I'm after the old one,
NOT the TTL shoe version for the 67II (which is outrageously priced).  It
must be in good condition (or brand new if it's available and not too
costly).

 My chances of finding one locally look slim so if anyone out there has
one they can part with, or can get hold of one, let me know.

 If replying I would encourage you do cc me privately because I'm still
accessing the list through the archives.

Cheers,

- Dave...

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (somewhat out of date)
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RE: OT: cranky SO

2002-02-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Easiest way to get a dog to take a pill
is wrap it in bacon!
JCO

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 5:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OT: cranky SO
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cotty"
> Subject: Re: OT: cranky SO
> 
> 
> 
> We have one cat that we have been trying to shove worming
> tablets
> > down her mouth for nearly 8 years without success.
> 
> You need a pill injector. Thse are a syringe luke device with a
> soft tube on the end that holds the pill. You put the pill into
> the end of the tube, open the cats mouth, stick the piller into
> the very back of the mouth and inject the pill. Pull ou the
> piller, and hold the cats head up and mouth shut until it
> swallows.
> Or, get a dog, as they can be taught to accept pills without
> being stupid about it.
> 
> William Robb
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread tom

On 9 Feb 2002 at 17:05, Brian Walsh wrote:

> Regarding prices of the Mamiya 7 kit:
> 
> Robert White has a special on Mamiya gear running through the end of
> this month. The body is less than $1100, while the standard 80mm lens
> is around $730. The Bronica RF645--including the standard lens--is
> less than $1,100. Add about 8-10% for shipping and duty, and you can
> still beat US prices.
> 
> http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/
> 
> BTW, B&H lists the Bronica body at $1650, and the Mamiya body at
> $1979. 

You're evil, and so is Mamiya USA.

tv
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Tmax 400, Spotmatic and 50mm SMCT at the car show

2002-02-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Decided to go and take some photographs at a local
car show yesterday afternoon. Since it was heavy
overcast and I knew I needed maximum depth of
field, I decided to use 35mm and Tmax 400 film.
Loaded my spotmatic and mounted a 50mm F1.4 SMCT
lens. Considering the lighting situations the results
came out great. Tmax 400 and the 50mm SMCT are both
VERY sharp. My exposures were around 1/60 and F5.6-8.
Here's a few scans you muscle car lovers might like:

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car01.jpg

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car02.jpg

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car03.jpg

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car04.jpg

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car05.jpg

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car06.jpg

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car07.jpg

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/car08.jpg


As usualt there were vendors of all sorts:

http://www.gate.net/~hifisapi/clocks.jpg

Later,
JCO
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RE: photoshop

2002-02-09 Thread John Coyle

To remove the shoes and hand, the technique I have used with Photoshop LE is to 
copy a section of the sand/dirt background adjacent to it, and to then paste it 
repeatedly over the element you want to remove.  Start with a large piece, then 
gradually reduce it and fill in the more awkward shapes.
Alternatively, carefully outline the hand you want to keep, copy it, paste it 
into a temporary file.  Then cut and paste the dirt background all the way 
across, until all trace of the hand(s) and shoes are gone, then copy and paste 
the hand you want to keep back in.
In both cases, you may want to use the 'smudge' tool to feather the edges of 
the joins.

I am aware that the use of layers in Photoshop may provide an easier way, but I 
haven't yet used it, so can't advise there.

HTH

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

PS - if you like, I could do it on a copy of the image to show the result, and 
email it back off-list - just let me know?


On Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:47 AM, Nitin Garg [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
>
> In the picture at
> http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~nitin/fast-bw/feeding-hand.jpg
>
> i find the shoes and hand of the second person in the background
> distracting. Any tips on how to "erase" it by tiling the other
> background over it?
>

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Re: OT: cranky SO

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have to get up at 5:30 AM to have access time.
>

I'm pleased to hear I'm not the only one who does that.
Paul
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Re: photoshop

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist

You can use the clone tool, which looks like a rubber stamp, to select
patches of the photo and insert them in another area.

Nitin Garg wrote:

> hi
>
> i scanned some of the b&w photos i took on my california trip today. I
> have never used photoshop before but plan to use it soon after i scan my
> slides (planning on stitching together some photos to form a panorama).
>
> So have a couple of questions:
>
> In the picture at
> http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~nitin/fast-bw/feeding-hand.jpg
>
> i find the shoes and hand of the second person in the background
> distracting. Any tips on how to "erase" it by tiling the other
> background over it?
>
> I remember reading someplace about photoshop filters which do the
> stitching of pictures. Anyone know about this or can point me to info
> about it ?
>
> thanks,
> nitin
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Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking

2002-02-09 Thread Treena Harp

Now, I don't think that's necessarily the case -- maybe it just depends on
the cat. I have a chronic illness that can make me very sick at times. My
11-year-old cat has stuck by me since she was a kitten, and she becomes
quite upset when I don't feel well -- literally refuses to leave my side.
And you should hear the talking-to I get from her when we get back from
vacations. It's not like there isn't someone to take care of her, but one
time we were gone for almost two weeks and she wouldn't speak to me for
THREE days after we got back. I don't think they have a small range emotion.
They're just more difficult to read.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking


The dogs win. I like the cats (hell, I kept one in the
 freezer for six months), but the dogs become part of the family. They
 seem much more in touch with human emotions. They become distressed when
 I'm distressed. The cats could care less. When the family is happy, the
dogs are happy. The cats were always on an even keel. Very little range
 of emotion. Dogs, in short, are more human. But hey, I like them all.
 Paul
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread Brian Walsh

Regarding prices of the Mamiya 7 kit:

Robert White has a special on Mamiya gear running through the end of this 
month. The body is less than $1100, while the standard 80mm lens is around 
$730. The Bronica RF645--including the standard lens--is less than $1,100. 
Add about 8-10% for shipping and duty, and you can still beat US prices.

http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/

BTW, B&H lists the Bronica body at $1650, and the Mamiya body at $1979.
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photoshop

2002-02-09 Thread Nitin Garg

hi

i scanned some of the b&w photos i took on my california trip today. I
have never used photoshop before but plan to use it soon after i scan my
slides (planning on stitching together some photos to form a panorama).

So have a couple of questions:

In the picture at
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~nitin/fast-bw/feeding-hand.jpg

i find the shoes and hand of the second person in the background
distracting. Any tips on how to "erase" it by tiling the other
background over it?

I remember reading someplace about photoshop filters which do the
stitching of pictures. Anyone know about this or can point me to info
about it ?

thanks,
nitin
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Re: OT: cranky SO

2002-02-09 Thread Matjaz Osojnik

Wrong, Rob. Obviously, you don't know my dog.

Matjaz

> Or, get a dog, as they can be taught to accept pills without
> being stupid about it.
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Fixing times

2002-02-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

The differences in films is amazing.
Acros 100 took about 3 minutes.
Plus-X took about 1 minute.
APX-25 took about 30 sec!
(Stock Kodak fixer.  Not Rapid.)
I'm amazed at how fast it went.

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Re: Home study courses.

2002-02-09 Thread Kenneth Waller

Here's my $.02 on the question - I'm not sure what you're expecting to get
out of a home study course and if time is an issue, a multi day workshop
might be the answer. I've taken a number of outdoor photography workshops
and they have done more to improve my photography than anything I've ever
done in all the years I've been shooting. Except for some advanced
workshops, they all offer instructioin on equipment usage, exposure,
composition etc. With a good instructor your technical questions will get
direct feedback instantly. You'll get to see how a pro goes about his
photography. You will get you work critiqued by a working professional and
spend time with others in places you might not otherwise get to on your own.
These are hands on sessions which I find much more worthwhile than a book
study arrangement.
Ken Waller
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Subject: RE: Home study courses.


> >I wanted to go down that path, but I have the children and my wife often
> >goes off on business at short notice. It ruins courses where regular
> >attendance is required, and of course, if small children are ill/off
colour
> >it is not possible to attend. Makes a right do-dah of your commitments
with
> >friends too!
>
> Good point. In that case, it might be okay. Personally I would just go
> out and buy a nice thick book and try and do it myself, but then again,
> I've never had a particular liking for teachers and school ;-)
>
> Cotty
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Re: Show opening

2002-02-09 Thread Mark Roberts

Congratulations Juan!
I have a small show tomorrow. I'd be happy if it went half as well as yours. 

-- 
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www.robertstech.com
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Re: Old Voightlander Question

2002-02-09 Thread Dave Maki

..Kevin.. I bought a Voigtlander Perkeo at a garage sale last
spring for $20 CDN.  It is a small folding camera taking 120 film
in a 6x6 format.  It is a cheap introduction to medium format. 
Everything works and it takes good pictures.  It is an early
1950's model, fully manual.
I found some info here (and didn't look further) 
http://www.cosmonet.org/camera/index_e.html

The font on thier logo is tricky, but as Raimo mentioned,
 spelling counts.

Kevin Waterson wrote:
> 
> Someone offered me an old Voighlander Bessa, takes a 120 film..
> Is this junk, or is it useful for something other than a paper weight.
> Kevin


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Re: OT: cranky SO

2002-02-09 Thread William Robb

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From: "Cotty"
Subject: Re: OT: cranky SO



We have one cat that we have been trying to shove worming
tablets
> down her mouth for nearly 8 years without success.

You need a pill injector. Thse are a syringe luke device with a
soft tube on the end that holds the pill. You put the pill into
the end of the tube, open the cats mouth, stick the piller into
the very back of the mouth and inject the pill. Pull ou the
piller, and hold the cats head up and mouth shut until it
swallows.
Or, get a dog, as they can be taught to accept pills without
being stupid about it.

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the vivitar rl i mentioned few days ago...

2002-02-09 Thread Nitin Garg

So i test this lens and it performs really well. I totally like it. Now
i went to duke gardens here in somerville today (pretty place. very nice
to take pics of flowers but they dont allow use of tripods which is a
shame. Plus one is NOT allowed to take ones time or roam by self which
is bigger shame. I didnt bother to pack in my flash and most of my pics
are now at the very edge of 1/focal length :(. So if you go, take a
flash and monopod along).

So anyways, i had taken this lens along and my zx5n. Another 50/2.8 for
the zx5n and the ricoh cam with m42 adapter on. Murphy is always
following me close behind and as i tried to put this lens on for a shot
requiring longer focal length, i realised this lens DOES NOT mount on my
zx5n! :( The reason being: The metal stub thingie which extends inner to
the lever (which keeps the aperture open for open aperture metering) on
the mount is too wide on this lens: almost a semi-circle. Now on the
zx5n because of some contacts inside (power zoom?), the base portion of
the mount is not all empty (like in my ricoh) but a only a small arc is
deep enough. So, lens wont mount :(

So question -- Anyplace i can get this stub cut off ? sounds risky to the
health of rear glass. Or, get the mount thing replaced to a shorter one
someplace ?

thanks,
nitin
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Re: Show opening

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist

Congratulations. A well deserved success for a very good photographer.
Paul

"Juan J. Buhler" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Some of you asked me to report on how this went, so here you go:
>
> I had my gallery opening tonight, and it was awesome. I was amazed at the
> number of people that showed up--about 40 or so (our own Shel among them,
> sporting an LX with FA 43mm--thanks Shel for coming!). And, to add to my
> amazement, I actually _sold_ eight pictures! What are these people thinking,
> I don't know, but hey, I could use a 35mm Summicron right now :-)
>
> We actually had to ask people to leave at the end, when the gallery people
> were trying to close.
>
> Afterwards, a few of us went for tapas to a very good Spanish restaurant. A
> most excellent time.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to share. Thanks to everybody who sent good wishes,
>
> j
>
> =
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RE: Home study courses.

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

>I wanted to go down that path, but I have the children and my wife often
>goes off on business at short notice. It ruins courses where regular
>attendance is required, and of course, if small children are ill/off colour
>it is not possible to attend. Makes a right do-dah of your commitments with
>friends too!

Good point. In that case, it might be okay. Personally I would just go 
out and buy a nice thick book and try and do it myself, but then again, 
I've never had a particular liking for teachers and school ;-)

Cotty

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Re: OT: cranky SO

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

Hey Bob,

>Yes, the SO can get a bit cranky when you're on the Internet.
>I don't know what 'slam notes about getting down the cat box' are,
>but they don't let us box up our cats here unless they are dead.
>

I didn't proof read my email. I said 'slam notes' whe I really meant she 
was writing me notes and slamming them down on my desk (while ducking 
low-flying broomsticks) and intimidating me with threats that if I didn't 
get the 'cat box' down from it's place in the (f)utility room, I was a 
dead man. The cat box itself is one of those plastic affiars with a wire 
door on one end for transporting cats between a sleepy corner and the 
vets. We have one cat that we have been trying to shove worming tablets 
down her mouth for nearly 8 years without success. (Okay wise-guys with 
cats reading this thinking, ' Dah- it's easy, you just gotta know 
how.' I say 'YOU TRY!!!'. We have tried coaxing, shoving, decoying, 
camouflaging, seducing, sedating, tricking, contorting, everything! No 
way. Two of us with gardening gloves on and farrier's trousers (heavy 
leather pants) might *appear* to get it in after a ten minute fight to 
near death, but you could sit there frozen, tapping her throat for 20 
minutes, and as soon as you release her, up it pops - out onto the floor, 
a soggy mess of expensive worming tablet. She bolts and that's that. Much 
easier for the vet to do it - I assume he surgically opens her gut and 
implants the blasted thing straight in - can't be any other way

>And wait until your kids are old enough to want the Internet connection...
>I have to get up at 5:30 AM to have access time.

Hmm, my son is 8, uses an ageing PowerBook, but so far so good: he's 
still young enough to hate girls, and his pals are all to stupid to sort 
put email yet, so I reckon we're safe for about 3 or 4 years? You have my 
sympathy!

Best,

Cotty

PS - congrats on the 85mm f/1.8  Nice one :-)

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Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking

2002-02-09 Thread Paul Stenquist

For quite some time, I had two cats and one dog, then two cats and two
dogs. When I lived in Joisey, the cats lived upstairs in our split, and
the dog lived downstairs. After I moved to Michigan, I reversed the
arrangement, and the cats lived in the finished basement, and the dog
lived on the first floor. Eventually, I came across a second dog (my
daughter found him freezing to death in a dumpster two years ago), and
so I had a pair of cats on one level and a pair of dogs on the other
level. In other words, each group of animals had their time on the main
family floor. The dogs win. I like the cats (hell, I kept one in the
freezer for six months), but the dogs become part of the family. They
seem much more in touch with human emotions. They become distressed when
I'm distressed. The cats could care less. When the family is happy, the
dogs are happy. The cats were always on an even keel. Very little range
of emotion. Dogs, in short, are more human. But hey, I like them all.
Paul

William Robb wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Frantisek Vlcek"
> Subject: Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking
>
> >
> > BTW, I love both animals, I don't see a problem having both,
> why is
> > there such animosity between cat and dog owners here on
> list?!?
>
> Not animosity, per se, some of us just have a hard time
> understanding why some people think cats have more intelligence
> than a cranberry.
>
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Speaking of Cats ...,

2002-02-09 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

When I'm not obsessing about lenses, I write a series of one-page personal 
essays. In one of them, I describe, through personal experience, why cats 
are special to cat lovers (like me). I'll be glad to send the .PDF 
(Acrobat) file to anyone interested.


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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

At least one camera magazine declared the Mamiya 7II as the quietest camera 
of any type they had ever tested.

Among the cameras I've used, the Minox 35s (scale focus) were quietest, 
followed closely (in no particular order) by the Olympus XA (rangefinder), 
Olympus EC2 (scale focus), and my present Yashica Electro GT-S (rangefinder).



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Re[2]: Enabled!

2002-02-09 Thread Bruce Dayton

Oliver,

I haven't thought about that one yet, but your threat makes me at
least want to see one.  I'm still waiting for Aaron to say something.
I'm not going to change my favorite body vote from the MZ-S to the
P67II until he does.


Bruce



Saturday, February 09, 2002, 11:34:02 AM, you wrote:

OR> Welcome to the club, and congratulations!

OR> PS - if you get the new big zoom, I will hunt you down :)

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OR> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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OR> Subject: Enabled!
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Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking

2002-02-09 Thread William Robb

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From: "Frantisek Vlcek"
Subject: Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking



>
> BTW, I love both animals, I don't see a problem having both,
why is
> there such animosity between cat and dog owners here on
list?!?

Not animosity, per se, some of us just have a hard time
understanding why some people think cats have more intelligence
than a cranberry.

William Robb
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread Brian Walsh

Shel wrote: ". . . . Michael recently purchased a black Mamiya 7II. What a 
beauty! It's virtually silent, has a big, bright viewfinder, and the image 
jumps sharply into focus. But here's the thing ... with its normal lens it 
doesn't seem to weigh any more than the LX with its normal lens. And it's 
not much bulkier, either. I know Rob Studdert has a 7II, and I've seen the 
'chromes he's shot with it. Has anyone else here considered a 7II while 
drooling over the pentax 67? If so why did you choose the Pentax 67 over 
the 7 or 7II?"

I may have missed some replies (I'm reading the PDML archives web page), 
but here are a few random thoughts masquerading as a coherent reply:

I've enjoyed using the Mamiya 7 system for around four years. I chose it 
largely because of it's light weight for the format, combined with the 
excellent reputation of the lenses. Since I take the camera with me even on 
moderate rock climbs, I didn't seriously consider the heavier Pentax 
67.  Landscape photographer Michael Reichmann recently sold his 7 II, and 
purchased a 67. You can find some discussion in his reviews of both cameras 
here:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/m7_hands-on.htm

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/pentax67ii.htm

As you noticed, the camera isn't really much larger--and is perhaps 
lighter--than many high-end 35mm cameras from other makers. The lenses 
aren't monsters, either, and they average about a pound or so. I have the 
50, 65, 80 and 150mm lenses now, and I had the 43mm lens for a year. I like 
them all, especially the 50. Although I somehow prefer the 65 to the 80mm 
lens, I most often carry just the 50 and 80 combination; next is the 65 
alone, the 80 alone, and finally the 65 and 150 combination, depending on 
where I'm going and how much I'm willing to carry. I suppose if my baby 
needed new shoes, the 65 would be the first to go--but I think going 
barefoot is healthy for young children.

For your purposes, other lens attributes may be as important as the 
exceptional sharpness. If you can wrench the 7 II from Rob's vise-like grip 
(or if you can rent the system), you should try shooting as you would if 
you owned the camera. The lenses have leaf shutters with five aperture 
blades, and you might feel that the sharpness comes at some cost with 
respect to the bokeh. Try before you buy to see if the system will work for 
you.

The camera itself is a wonderful design. Leicaphiles might disdain it 
because it doesn't have a solid metal casing, but the apparent design 
parameters--good lenses mounted on a light-for-the format body--dictate 
good plastics where they work. The internals are very solid, and the camera 
is fairly robust. (I don't use it to hammer nails, but I do rattle it 
around in a backpack  quite a bit. I bounced my 7 perhaps twenty feet down 
a hillside in eastern China, and it continued to work--and focus--just 
fine. IMHO, most of the "rangefinder out of adjustment" hooey on the 
internet comes from rangefinder neophytes who don't seem to understand the 
need to center their eyes in the 7's big viewfinder.) The controls are 
logical, and just enough. The rangefinder patch is quite bright and clear, 
and the bright frame lines give an uncluttered view. The tiny "snick" of 
the shutter makes the "sounds like silk tearing" of a Leica shutter seem 
loud, and the LX might seem like a rifle shot by comparison.

Mamiya calculates the "35mm equivalents" of the lenses using the diagonals 
of the dissimilar 24 x 36mm and 6 x 7cm rectangles. You might want to 
consider how you print to determine which lenses might interest you. I tend 
to favor 8x10ish rectangles, and so crop 35mm stuff down to an effective 
maximum of 24 x 30mm. That makes the Mamiya 80mm lens seem like a 35mm lens 
on your LX, and the 65mm into a 28mm lens in 35-speak. If you prefer to 
crop the Mamiya's big film area to match the 1:1.5 ratio corresponding to 
two frames of old movie stock, everything changes. . . .

You can use faster film to offset the change in depth of field due to the 
larger format. 400-speed film in 6x7 can yield prints as good as--I think 
better--than 100-speed in small format, and be used at the same shutter 
speed, but closed down two stops. The speed of the lens isn't really an 
issue. 800-speed Fuji NHG II (or NPZ) can make some beautiful prints.

Regarding price: I purchased most of my stuff from a very reliable Hong 
Kong store I first learned of on this list; one lens came from the UK. 
Prices in Asia are _much_ lower than in the US. Prices in the UK are low, 
too, and--since you don't have to pay VAT--are better for US customers than 
for Europeans. (Anyone who is stopped from owning this camera by the 
ridiculously high prices in the US should consider purchasing abroad, where 
the prices are merely very high due to the high quality and low volume of 
medium format gear. . . ) I can suggest some very reliable vendors if you 
think you're interested. For that reason, some folks are

Re: K2 DMD production figures

2002-02-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Thanks to you all.

I initially thought such number (or at least a guess) might be in the
Asahi Way or similar book (to which I have no access here ;(

Frantisek
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Re: nature macro flash rig

2002-02-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi Richard,
   a lot of macro photos were made with two flashes on arms on both
   sides of the camera. I think for many animals, this is even better
   than a ringflash (as a ringflash will get you much more decreasing
   light with distance, thus creating more tunnel effect).

   Try it - it's not that much expensive when you have a flash
   already. Just some cords, a second inexpensive flash (even 330 or
   240ftz will suffice for macro as second flash, I think, you don't
   need tilt/swivel).

   Also, put some neutral density over the 500ftz if it's too strong
   to quench fast enough. Metz makes nice plastic ND filters for their
   flashes, which could be adapted to 500ftz, or purchase ND gel
   filters from lighting supplier (these may not last that long,
   though).

   HTH
   FRantisek
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Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking

2002-02-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Saturday, February 09, 2002, 2:56:32 AM, Pdgsurvey wrote:
Pac> Anyone whose ever watched a cat stalk its prey, mouse, ant, squirrel, bird, 
Pac> etc... can't help believing that they have the ability to not only think, but 
Pac> to plan short range.  Just like dogs, maybe better, and I've had both.

Pac> Paul Gutkowski

Yes, the dog owners are just plain envious ;)

BTW, I love both animals, I don't see a problem having both, why is
there such animosity between cat and dog owners here on list?!?

They are just different, cat's not a dog and vice versa, so what's the
problem with you (not meant to you, Paul )?

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi Shel,
   sorry about your LX. My (new, one day only ) LX is loud too
   compared to probably M series, but much quieter and more pleasant
   than my other Pentaxes I have(had) K2DMD (SFXn). It's a nice sound,
   not high-pitched, quite pleasant. But I admit, it's not really
   quiet :(
   
   For MF rangefinder, what about older Mamiya 6? Should be much
   cheaper than the super-expensive 7 prices.

   And have you considered a M pres 23? It doesn't have that fast
   glass in wideangles, though, fastest is normal lens, 3.5 I think.
   And it offers no interlocks, but is dirty cheap.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread T Rittenhouse

In the old days they used a 5x7 camera and retouched the negative. These
days I would recommend Photoshop.
--graywolf


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Subject: Portrait lenses


> A couple of days ago there was a thread about portrait lenses and macro
> lenses of roughly the same focal length (around 100mm). Excuse me
waffling,
> but it's late.
> Anyway, I would just like to iterate, if anyone is thinking of going into
> portraiture, then don't use a lens that is TOO SHARP!
> Why am I saying this? I was just given copies of photos taken at my work's
> Christmas 'do' . Portrait of self and hubby by the Christmas tree. Good
> grief! It showed wrinkles ON wrinkles, it was that sharp. Heaven help the
> younger, spottier members of staff. Their portraits would not be sitting
on
> anyone's mantlepiece!
>
> Wendy
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Re: Enabled!

2002-02-09 Thread Oliver Raymond

Welcome to the club, and congratulations!

PS - if you get the new big zoom, I will hunt you down :)

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From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Enabled!


> Well gang, seeing how today was FS Friday, I took a late lunch and
> made the trek down to my local camera store one more time to finalize
> on my MF path.  This morning, the wife and I agreed to take the plunge
> (I think I agreed more than she did) and buy it today.  So I came home
> from the store much poorer, but very excited.
> 
> Items purchased:
> P67II body
> AE II prism
> 90 2.8 lens
> Hotshoe grip
> Extension Tubes
> Film
> 
> I'll start with this and figure out what else I am needing.  Then I
> suspect that down the road I will have to start selling some 35mm gear
> to support the new habit (lenses, etc).
> 
> Woo Hoo!
> 
> 
>  Bruce Dayton
> 
>  P.S. I suppose this means that I better change my vote on favorite
>  body before Aaron gets on my case.
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Re: Your Darkrooms

2002-02-09 Thread Oliver Raymond

I've thrown together a web page or two with my darkroom - including a few
hints for the would-be designer...

http://www.transientimages.net/darkroom.htm

don't be too jealous - i had to buy a house to get this setup :)

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> Subject: Your Darkrooms
>
>
> > Happily, there's been more discussion about B&W processing and darkrooms
> > here.
> >
> > How about putting up a pic or two of your darkrooms so those who are
> > thinking about setting up a darkroom for the first time might get some
> > ideas.  Of course, we may all learn from one another.
> >
> > Even though I've mentioned my setup a few times, I'll post a couple of
> > pics again just to get things started.
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom/my-darkroom.html
> >
> > ---
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Free: Ricoh auto 50/1.7 EE lens in screwmount

2002-02-09 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

I have an M42 Auto Rikenon EE 50/1.7 that I'll send for free to the first 
person who promises to test it and share the results with the list. All I 
ask is $3 for shipping via PayPal or BidPay if you're in North America; $8 
if you're anywhere else.

The glass is immaculate. The lens came with a Ricoh screwmount camera, 
which in turn came with a screwmount Series 1 lens I had bought. I've never 
used the lens, but it appears to be built to Takumar Super Multicoated 
standards.  There's no Auto/Manual switch; evidently the "Auto" feature 
works only with Ricoh SLRs.

Send the money to my email address, below.

If you're reading this after Saturday, Feb. 09 (U.S. Eastern time), don't 
bother writing; someone almost certainly has already claimed it.

Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread Grigolia

Shel,
 I also looked at the Mamiya 7 II and loved it.  I decided against the 
Mamiya because it didn't have lenses in some of the focal lengths I wanted, 
it's slow lens speed, and it's slow top shutter speed.  
 But if you're going to use the camera primarily tripod mounted the 
Mamiya is hard to beat!!!  The camera is a dream to handle.  And image 
sharpness is exceptional.
 I finally settled on the Contax 645 because of lens selection, lens 
speed, 1:4000 shutter speed, and interchangeable backs!  But I really do love 
the Mamiya!
 Alexander Grigolia
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Re: Show opening

2002-02-09 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Juan J. Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Some of you asked me to report on how this went, so here you
go:
> 
> I had my gallery opening tonight, and it was awesome. 

Hi Juan,
I'm very happy for you!
Go on this way!

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Use Med Format Lenses on Your 35mm Bodies

2002-02-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff

http://www.zoerk.de/pages/p_mounta.htm
http://www.zoerk.de/pages/p_specia.htm

Sure, we all know that you can use your 67 lenses on your LX, but here's
a company that makes adapters that allows many Med Format lens to be
used on most any 35mm body. So, if you've got a favorite old screw
mount, or a Nikon that you like to use, this company will allow the use
of the 67 lenses on those bodies.  Or maybe you've got a Mamiya 645 or a
'blad - now you can use those lenses on the Pentax.  This might be a
useful bit of information now that so many list members are moving in
the direction of Med Format.  They make some special adapters as well.
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-09 Thread tom

On 8 Feb 2002 at 22:58, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> This brings me to medium format.  Michael recently purchased a black
> Mamiya 7II.  What a beauty!  It's virtually silent, has a big, bright
> viewfinder, and the image jumps sharply into focus.  But here's the
> thing ... with its normal lens it doesn't seem to weigh any more than
> the LX with its normal lens.  And it's not much bulkier, either.
> 
> I know Rob Studdert has a 7II, and I've seen the 'chromes he's shot
> with it.  Has anyone else here considered a 7II while drooling over
> the pentax 67?  If so why did you choose the Pentax 67 over the 7 or
> 7II?

I've been mulling over that camera for a while. The 2 main drawbacks 
for me are the lack of close focusing and the speed of the lenses. 

Plus the fact that they're crazy expensive. Oh, and they have no ttl 
flash metering.

Ok, 4 things, but you're right, it's a gorgeous camera.

Bronica has a similar camera using the 645 format, that's also less 
expensive. I think Mike J has been playing with one.

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Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread Bgpentax

  Wendy..you are So right...extreme sharpness is NOT desirable in a lens
 used for portraiture or fall foliage, etc lenses have unique 
characteristics
 which make them excellent for an application and mediocre for others. So many
 times I've read here how guys are disappointed with their 70-200mm Zooms
 only to find they are spending WAY TOO MUCH TIME AT 200 where that
 optic IS sub-standard. Case in point: the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4 AF Zoom has
 taken abuse from several members of this list who apparently are expecting
 razor-sharpness at 105mm  and zero-distortion at f2.8DUH!!!...The lens 
has
 WONDERFUL softness (portraiture) at 105mm and is very easy to manually
 focus in dim light BECAUSE of its large aperture..you'll be disappointed with
 results if you actually SHOOT at 2.8 (get it??). I have many fine (and 
sharp!)
 16x20's using this lens in its sweet range (55-90 @ f5.6-11). I guess the 
point
 of my rambling is: 
KNOW THY EQUIPMENT
Regards,
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Re: Show opening

2002-02-09 Thread tom

On 9 Feb 2002 at 1:29, Juan J. Buhler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Some of you asked me to report on how this went, so here you go:
> 
> I had my gallery opening tonight, and it was awesome. 


Very cool, congratulations.

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Re: K2 DMD production figures

2002-02-09 Thread Alexander Krohe

Frantisek wrote: 
BTW, if anybody has the Motor Drive MD (made for
K2DMD) and is willing to sell, please mail me offlist.
I am even interested in just the motor alone without
the big AA battery grip (I can improvise my own power
source).
Good light,
 Frantisek Vlcek


The grip is not mandatory. The Ni-Cd packs M (MX) and
LX will work without any problems with the motordrive
MD of the K2DMD. 
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RE: Home study courses.

2002-02-09 Thread Malcolm Smith

I wanted to go down that path, but I have the children and my wife often
goes off on business at short notice. It ruins courses where regular
attendance is required, and of course, if small children are ill/off colour
it is not possible to attend. Makes a right do-dah of your commitments with
friends too!

Malcolm

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> Subject: Re: Home study courses.
>
>
> >I have to admit I am interested, but would very much like your
> views on such
> >courses. Obviously, it's difficult to talk about this course
> specifically.
> >Has anyone here done one? Or is it better to continue with my own
> >photography, and analyse my mistakes? I am not interested in making money
> >from my hobby, but would like to raise my standards and ability.
>
> Hi Malc,
>
> I have no experience of home study courses. I would have to say that IMO
> a much better approach would be an evening or weekend class: there is
> NOTHING like being there, listening, interacting, discussing. With a
> knowledgeable tutor, and physical examples to experience and see, you
> can't go wrong!
>
> My .02 UK pence.
>
> Cotty
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OT: cranky SO

2002-02-09 Thread Rfsindg

Cotty,

Yes, the SO can get a bit cranky when you're on the Internet.
I don't know what 'slam notes about getting down the cat box' are,
but they don't let us box up our cats here unless they are dead.

And wait until your kids are old enough to want the Internet connection...
I have to get up at 5:30 AM to have access time.

Regards,  Bob S.
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RE: PDML UK Weekend?

2002-02-09 Thread Malcolm Smith

See later post - would like your viewpoint. There is a replacement for the
Red Rover - when were you last on a bus in London. LOL!

Malcolm

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>
>
> < London (by bus -
> the upstairs of a Routemaster takes a beating for views), yes, PDML
> sweatshirts/banners!!>>
>
> Malcolm. As a one-time subscriber to the Pentax "magazine" I can
> claim eligibility with the "Pentax Professional" acyrlic woolly
> jumper, not to mention the extremely sad Pentax Sweat Top and
> matching Pants. Shame that the Red Bus Rover is no more, however
> the London Eye is an excellent idea.
>
> Kind regards from sunny Brighton
>
> Peter
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RE: PDML weekend (uk) 2002/2003

2002-02-09 Thread Malcolm Smith

GUILTY M'LUD!

Notwithstanding the above plea, it is hereby understood and agreed that:

1. Full co-operation of SC will apply throughout in consultation of:
   A: Venue - suitability thereof;
   B: Advertising via electronic communication of PDML;

2. The charge of taking pleasure in providing the above is dismissed;

3. Guests: All current PDML residents of said global community.

Malcolm






> Malcolm Pentaxian Smith, please stand. You are hereby charged with
> organising a meeting of any willing parties, from the UK or otherwise,
> who are interested in an informal UK Pentax socio-photographical
> gathering at a venue to be decided, and inciting other members of the
> PDML into attending, through written threat or virtual bodily harm, and
> for taking immense pleasure from said actions whilst seeking no financial
> gain or recompense.
>
> HOW DO YOU PLEAD?
>
> ;-)
>
> Hint:
>
> Guest list:
>
> 1. Cotty
> 2.
> 3.
> 4.
> 5.
> etc
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Re: Sheesh..!

2002-02-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Juan ...

The A50/1.2 is on loan.  It's not mine yet.

"Juan J. Buhler" wrote:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1331704425
> 
> For $75, I was jumping at it until I noticed that the pictures are of a 50/2
> lens. Talk about misleading descriptions.
> 
> And I find this just a few hours after having the chance of looking at Shel's
> A50/1.2. It's amazing how much brighter than a 1.4 it makes the viewfinder.

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Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread Robert Woerner

I've shot "portraits" (candid photo ops at weddings, etc.) using a PZ1p with
AF500FTZ flash and an F 100 2.8 macro with great results. The FA 28-105
(power zoom model) is also a stellar performer.  The film I use is Fuji NPS
shot as rated (160) and processed by a good lab and printed on Kodak Royal
paper.  I'm not so sure its the sharpness of the lens that is always the
problem, you may just need a lower contrast film. I've shot Kodak Gold 100
and Fuji HQ 100 under similar circumstances and gotten scary
results...blotchy, unnatural skin rendering.  Other films I've had good
results with are Royal Gold 100, Fuji Superia Reala 100, and Agfa Vista 400
(shot at 320) with the Vista giving somewhat punchier colors.

In conclusion, my hands down favorite is NPS for portrait work.

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Re: PDML UK Weekend?

2002-02-09 Thread Camdir

<>

Malcolm. As a one-time subscriber to the Pentax "magazine" I can claim eligibility 
with the "Pentax Professional" acyrlic woolly jumper, not to mention the extremely sad 
Pentax Sweat Top and matching Pants. Shame that the Red Bus Rover is no more, however 
the London Eye is an excellent idea.

Kind regards from sunny Brighton

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Re: Portrait lenses

2002-02-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Wendy,
Studio phtographers solve the problem with ease.
And they don't use soft lenses or soft filters.
They use soft light!
(Direct light from a single open flash produces shadows.
That makes detail appear.)

Put your flash on an extension, just to the left of the camera.
Tape a piece of tissue over the lamp.
Put another flash to the right, about 3' from the camera.
Place a slave module on the shoe. ($20)
You might need a stand for the flash.  Use your extra tripod.
(We all have one.  Just admit it.)
Also put a piece of tissue over the lamp.
Shoot a few to experiment with the right flash placement.

Collin

At 11:29 PM 2/8/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 23:21:39 -0500
>From: wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Portrait lenses
>
>A couple of days ago there was a thread about portrait lenses and macro
>lenses of roughly the same focal length (around 100mm). Excuse me waffling,
>but it's late.
>Anyway, I would just like to iterate, if anyone is thinking of going into
>portraiture, then don't use a lens that is TOO SHARP!
>Why am I saying this? I was just given copies of photos taken at my work's
>Christmas 'do' . Portrait of self and hubby by the Christmas tree. Good
>grief! It showed wrinkles ON wrinkles, it was that sharp. Heaven help the
>younger, spottier members of staff. Their portraits would not be sitting on
>anyone's mantlepiece!
>
>Wendy


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Re: Home study courses.

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

>I have to admit I am interested, but would very much like your views on such
>courses. Obviously, it's difficult to talk about this course specifically.
>Has anyone here done one? Or is it better to continue with my own
>photography, and analyse my mistakes? I am not interested in making money
>from my hobby, but would like to raise my standards and ability.

Hi Malc,

I have no experience of home study courses. I would have to say that IMO 
a much better approach would be an evening or weekend class: there is 
NOTHING like being there, listening, interacting, discussing. With a 
knowledgeable tutor, and physical examples to experience and see, you 
can't go wrong!

My .02 UK pence.

Cotty

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Re: PDML weekend (uk) 2002/2003

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

Malcolm Pentaxian Smith, please stand. You are hereby charged with 
organising a meeting of any willing parties, from the UK or otherwise, 
who are interested in an informal UK Pentax socio-photographical 
gathering at a venue to be decided, and inciting other members of the 
PDML into attending, through written threat or virtual bodily harm, and 
for taking immense pleasure from said actions whilst seeking no financial 
gain or recompense.

HOW DO YOU PLEAD?

;-)

Hint:

Guest list:

1. Cotty
2.
3.
4.
5.
etc

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Re: Enabled!

2002-02-09 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

And not only that, but he made some
wise selections as well.  A nice outfit.
Wonder what film he got?  :)
Also, will this change the favorite bodies list at all? :)

Collin

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>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:19:57 -0600
>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Enabled!
>
>Bravo!!
>You will never regret this day.
>
>William Robb


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Re: Show opening

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

Juan, thanks for sharing that - I'm really happy for you. Sounds like a 
wonderful time and I'm sooo envious. I wish you luck!

Cotty

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Pentax Gear For Sale UK - worth a look

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

Okay, heads-up you Pentaxians in the UK and elsewhere,

Spotted fresh in this week's AP (Saturday 9th):

MX black £125, chrome £110
SMC M 15mm f/3.5 £550
24mm f/2.8 £95
28mm f/3.5 SHIFT £470
35mm f/2 £150
50mm f/1.7 £25
75-150mm f/4 £55
85mm f/1.8 £195
K T6 2x £50

UK phone 01992 537464 (Herts, north of London)

There *was* a drive, but I've got that ;-)

Go get 'em,

Cotty

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Pentax Gear For Sale UK - worth a look (also)

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

Plus there's an LX with 50 1.7 condition unkown for £250 in Scotland. 
Phone 0131 667 2164

Cotty

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Re: K2 DMD production figures

2002-02-09 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Frantisek wrote:


>anybody here please knows how many K2 DMDs (the motordrive/databack
>modification) were made? I have one and I would like to assess it's
>rarity (well, I can make a guess - I have seen so far only one //mine//
>in camerashops here ). Exakt figures would be great!


I doubt anyone can help you with exact production numbers as this 
information is very esoteric and to my knowledge not published. Pentax do 
publish sales numbers for some bestsellers (like Spotmatic and K1000, ME 
etc) and also for the lenses.
Anyway, the K2DMD was not very popular and didn't sell much in it's time. I 
do believe that the camera can be considered rare for it's time period.

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PDML weekend (uk) 2002/2003

2002-02-09 Thread Malcolm Smith

Steve,

Thank you for your informative posting, which I hope has not caused too much
domestic aggro!

I fully understand the logistics of organising such events as my life is a
rolling event: 3 children under 8 years of age and a wife with a full
business life who is constantly away. Just attending something I want to do
is often a problem as sometime children are not welcome; if they are not,
neither am I.

I joined PDML post September 11th, the world will never be the same, and it
is of course understandable that just jumping on a plane can ever be viewed
the same way. I started my working life in the city and many people
frequently had business trips to New York - the horrific events leave me
saddened profoundly.

Well to lighten the subject up (give it a go) I can say that your zoo idea
is nice, for both chatting/children and photography. My boys, had a joint
birthday party at Colchester Zoo and we invited a few friends with their
children, it was a belter of a day out, everyone had a great time and there
were many opportunities to take non-zoo related photos.

However, yes, going around the London Eye, a wander around London (by bus -
the upstairs of a Routemaster takes a beating for views), yes, PDML
sweatshirts/banners!!

Anyone else with views?

Thanks,

Malcolm
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Re: Sheesh..!

2002-02-09 Thread frank theriault

You're right, it's extremely misleading!  I hate to be cynical, but from this
guy's description, he seems to know something about photography.  Otherwise, he
wouldn't know that a 1.2 is extremely fast.  It's not like he's playing dumb -
you know, like "I know nothing about cameras, I'm selling this for an ailing
friend who's blind and can't use his equipment anymore", sort of thing.

I'd say this borders on fraud.  Reminds me of those auctions that mention only
the word "Pentax" in the title and description, and when you look closely at the
fuzzy pictures, you barely make out the word "Albinar", or some such.

Pretty sleazy!

regards,
frank

"Juan J. Buhler" wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1331704425
>
> For $75, I was jumping at it until I noticed that the pictures are of a 50/2
> lens. Talk about misleading descriptions.
>
> And I find this just a few hours after having the chance of looking at Shel's
> A50/1.2. It's amazing how much brighter than a 1.4 it makes the viewfinder.
>
> Sheesh.
>
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Home study courses.

2002-02-09 Thread Malcolm Smith

In Amateur Photographer this week, it is starting a Diploma study course,
which you can take at your own pace.

I have to admit I am interested, but would very much like your views on such
courses. Obviously, it's difficult to talk about this course specifically.
Has anyone here done one? Or is it better to continue with my own
photography, and analyse my mistakes? I am not interested in making money
from my hobby, but would like to raise my standards and ability.

Malcolm
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RE: PDML Weekend (UK)

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

>Fully understand commitments for this year, maybe 2003? Apart from an
>opportunity to meet and exchange ideas whilst taking photographs, is there a
>theme, or is this a discussion point along with a suitable central venue - I
>suppose I am asking for knowledge of past events here.

My dear Malcolm,

In the autumn of last year, I was envious of the annual gathering that is 
'Grandfather Mountain', and expressed an interest in something in the UK, 
along similar lines. Several people emailed me showing interest, some 
from the USA, some from continental Europe. I semi-volunteered to 
co-ordinate a gathering for sometime this year. Due to work and family 
commitments I won't be able to put in the effort I wanted to, hence my 
earlier post.

I mooted Grandmother London before the events of September 11th in New 
York, when attitudes regarding air travel were a little different. 
Interest expressed by US PDMLers who were contemplating travelling to 
Europe included those who would build in a Grandmother London excursion, 
and so firm dates would be essential so as not to frustrate those, and 
others, coming from abroad. I suspect that Sept 11th may have changed 
some attitudes slightly or greatly. Either way, it sort of put a damper 
on things.

If UK members were just going to meet up somewhere for a drink, it might 
not be too inviting for those wishing to attend from abroad. But then 
again, is that necessarily a prerequisite? If it's a UK meet, should we 
not just have a UK meet at our convenience and if anyone from outside can 
make it, well and good? Or maybe a meet for a day at a zoo, which may (or 
may not) attract non-UK based PDMLers? Or maybe a cattery ;-) ? Or how 
about just going round and round on the London Eye - hire a bubble for 
the whole day with a great big banner saying PDML stuck on it, get on and 
off whenever you like!

If I could spend the time, I would have organised a weekend of it: a meet 
and greet Saturday morning, lunch in a bistro, an afternoons shooting at 
a desired venue, hotel wash and brush up, followed by an evening 
strolling around a photo gallery, followed by restaurant meal with after 
dinner speaker from Pentax UK (wo)man wielding MZ-D prototypes for us to 
play with...

That takes not a little organising, not to mention a lot of persuasion 
and time!

So, I'm all for a drink in a pub followed by a photographic tour of Big 
Ben's gear housings, but unfortunately, I can't organise it. I had to get 
special dispensation from the SO just to sit writing THIS? (She's given 
up trying to interrupt me while I'm typing - sends slams written notes 
onto my desk instead. Let's see - the latest one says 'Can you get the 
cat box down for me - I can't do it'.)

Off to get the cat box down (God only knows why),

Cotty

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Re: PDML Weekend (UK)

2002-02-09 Thread Cotty

>> >Focus 2002? On my stand (if I was allowed to have one!!!)- 
>> so it's the bar, 
>> >then. Probably Monday for me.
>> 
>> Where's the venue Peter?
>> 

Peter, I'm sorry - I had the biggest brain-fade ever. I was thinking 
'Focus on Imaging' as I originally saw it billed in AP. I somehow didn't 
connect with just plain and simple 'Focus'. I am sheduled for a frontal 
labotomy later today. Results soon.

Blibbleglibblebubblebabbledabblehibble,

Cotty

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Show opening

2002-02-09 Thread Juan J. Buhler

Hi,

Some of you asked me to report on how this went, so here you go:

I had my gallery opening tonight, and it was awesome. I was amazed at the
number of people that showed up--about 40 or so (our own Shel among them,
sporting an LX with FA 43mm--thanks Shel for coming!). And, to add to my
amazement, I actually _sold_ eight pictures! What are these people thinking,
I don't know, but hey, I could use a 35mm Summicron right now :-)

We actually had to ask people to leave at the end, when the gallery people
were trying to close.

Afterwards, a few of us went for tapas to a very good Spanish restaurant. A
most excellent time.

Anyway, just wanted to share. Thanks to everybody who sent good wishes,

j


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Re: MZ-6 Australian announcement

2002-02-09 Thread Kevin Waterson

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:29:46 +1100
"Paul Ewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> BTW for Australians interested in an MZ-S , Dirt Cheap cameras
> (www.dirtcheapcameras.com.au) has the MZ-S for only AUD$1630.20

is that including GST?

Kevin
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Sheesh..!

2002-02-09 Thread Juan J. Buhler

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1331704425

For $75, I was jumping at it until I noticed that the pictures are of a 50/2
lens. Talk about misleading descriptions.

And I find this just a few hours after having the chance of looking at Shel's
A50/1.2. It's amazing how much brighter than a 1.4 it makes the viewfinder.

Sheesh.

j


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Re: feeling winky ;-)

2002-02-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Friday, February 08, 2002, 10:18:46 PM, Cotty wrote:
>>  Finally bough the LX (selling SFXn to partly fund it).
>>   Surprisingly, it's the last generation, with SN 5339...

C> Outstanding!  ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) 

Feeling still elated, I must share :)

It was quite a bargain, by the way! LX 3rd gen, lug straps, even
readycase, all in nice (used) condition, for rather low price.

The seller was a real pentax afficiando and we talked few hours
about Pentax cameras, Spotmatics, K2DMD and others :) A really nice
guy and talk. He is selling because he bought MZ-S to have AF to help
his eyes, needing AF lenses, so I had a chance to see MZS in work, wow :) really nice 
camera.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: Painting With Light

2002-02-09 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

JC> If you are thinking of smaller subjects, I have used a flashlight with
JC> reasonable success, but getting the right exposure was devilish difficult!

Hi,
   that's where any OTF metering camera (Oly OM2/3/4, LX) shines :)
   set a really small f/stop, set on auto, and flash away. Probably
   several bracketed frames would be needed, as it's centerweighed
   metering only, but it should work well, no? The auto setting will
   first choose a really long time, than, after several flashes, it
   will shut itself off.

Actually, I was thinking of getting an beat-up Olympus OM2 with one
lens just for this application (now I don't have to, I have lx )

Good (painted) light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Vs: Old Voigtlander Question

2002-02-09 Thread Raimo Korhonen

There are several models of 120 film Bessas - do you have any more information about 
it. What lens does it have? Vaskar seems to be of lower quality than Skopar or Heliar. 
There are several types of shutters, too. Does it have a rangefinder? Prices range 
from 35 USD to 500 USD - but if the lens is the rare Apo-Lanthar, the price could be 
2500 USD.
BTW if you are looking for information in the Internet, the correct spelling of 
Voigtlander might get more hits.
All the best!
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Aihe: Old Voightlander Question


>Someone offered me an old Voighlander Bessa, takes a 120 film..
>Is this junk, or is it useful for something other than a paper weight.
>Kevin
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