vermeers camera ( was first-ever Photo in the world)
Bob Walken wrote: In some ways photography has been around since at least the Middle Ages. There's a fascinating book by Philip Steadman called "Vermeer's Camera" in which the author argues that Vermeer used a camera obscura to paint his most famous works. He makes a very good case. Yes, maybe or probably, Vermeer did. Absolutly sure is that his collegue, a painter called Johan Fabritius, living like Vermeer in Delft, used such a camera. There's a painting left in which he has painted the new church in Delft with a kind of fish-eye wideangle lens. The picture can be seen at http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/f/fabritiu/view_del.html The exact spot in Delft, the church, the houses, all still exist, and it has been one of my plans for a long time to try and make a similar "real" photograph, apporaching the original as much as possible (maybe with a Pentax and a fish-eye, maybe with a Horizont panoramic camera - just have to see what matches best. Fabritius became only 32, was killed in the big gunpowder explosion in Delft. Probably not many paintings were made by him, or at least did survive. Regards, John - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto 055Cl vs Pro
>I may have an opportunity to buy a new (I guess) Manfrotto 055 Cl tripod >and >a heavy duty ballhead No 168. All this for $75 ($50 - tripod, $25 - head). >My question is this - is the price right (I guess it is), and (more >important) how often do you use the center column of the 055 Pro in >horizontal position (I think it's the only difference between the 055 Cl >and >Pro). I don't know about the new Heavy Duty ballhead, but the old design sucks. I suggest you double checked before you buy one. Don't be fooled by its size. regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
43/1.9 vs M50/1.4, 77/1.8 vs A70-210/4, B+W vs HOYA CIR-PL results
Just got my 1st roll of Provia 100F back and excited to see my test results. Every shot was taken with the Z-1p mounted on an ARCA B1 ballhead/Gitzo 1349 tripod and focused very carefully (between 1-2 metres). Aperture was set on the lens. Inspection was done through Schneider 4X MC & Cabin PL-8M 8X loupes. Comparsion shots were taken without moving the camera, but switched the lens or filter only. And for the filter test shots, the set focus (almost infinite) was not disturbed at all when changing filters (aperture f8). Here is my observation. FA100/2.8 Macro: Very very nice bokeh and pretty sharp even at wide open. FA43/1.9 vs M50/1.4: M50/1.4 produced nicer bokeh at f2 and f2.8, but still produce very very subtle bright-ring bokeh (almost non-exist, almost). FA43 had clearly more noticable bright-ring bokeh, and the difference is very obvious even under a 4X loupe. At f2, sharpness is pretty close. At f2.8, FA43 is sharper. FA77/1.8 vs SMC-A70-210/4: The zoom had the worst bright-ring bokeh here. FA77 had much nicer bokeh, and shaper too at f4 (zoom set to 70mm), but still produced subtle bright-ring bokeh (worse than the M50/1.4). B+W vs HOYA CIR-PL (regular): There is no difference in colour and sharpness, absolutely none under the 8X loupe. And the shot without filter is not any sharper either. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SMCT 35mm f2 and the yellow curse
Brendan MacRae wrote: > On shooting my first roll of color print film (800 max, > indoors but with a > preponderance of sunlight) and I don't notice any color shift > at all. It > looks like I lucked out and can use this lens for color after > all. When you shoot only print film, I suppose you will not see even a stronger yellow discoloration of the lenses. As the printer at your lab will correct this automatically, the final prints will show no yellow color engraving. But you should not use this lens for slide film. Maybe only for sunsets ;-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Current thinking on Medium Format scanners?
- Original Message - From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is there a consensus on the Epson 2450? > For US buyers, low cost source http://www.provantage.com 373.98 Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Current thinking on Medium Format scanners?
Bob, Even lower is Sam's Club - $349 Bruce Thursday, June 27, 2002, 11:15:47 PM, you wrote: BR> - Original Message - BR> From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BR> Is there a consensus on the Epson 2450? >> BR> For US buyers, low cost source BR> http://www.provantage.com BR> 373.98 BR> Bob BR> - BR> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, BR> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to BR> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Battery Leakage Cleanup
>Okay, I should already know this, but what should I do to >clean up a battery compartment in which alkaline AA cells >have leaked. I would use a product called DeoxIT to remove most of the deposit 1st, then use a fibraglass brush to remove anyhting tough, and then back to the DeoxIT for the final cleanup. regards, Alan Chan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Battery Leakage Cleanup
- Original Message - From: Glenn Subject: Battery Leakage Cleanup > Okay, I should already know this, but what should I do to > clean up a battery compartment in which alkaline AA cells > have leaked? > I clean em when I have to with a pencil eraser, then gently scraping anything too stubborn to erase. Finally, if possible I wipe the contacts clean with baking soda paste. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Battery Leakage Cleanup
Okay, I should already know this, but what should I do to clean up a battery compartment in which alkaline AA cells have leaked? -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: June PUG - MY comments!
Thanks for your comments Wendy. I'm glad you like the portrait. Hopefully my July submission is as well received. :) Jeff Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:35:22 -0400 From: wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: June PUG - MY comments! Difficult one this month. I keep going back to look at all the submissions. Some excellent ones there (as ever). Some I'm not so struck with but then portraiture means different things to different people. Anyway, here are a few comments on the ones that caught my eye (for whatever reason). "The Cantor" by Jeff Post This is Brilliant (with a capital B). The colours are just wonderful and it's superbly composed. The lettering just sets the whole thing off perfectly. Someone suggested that it might be better with the person on the right of the picture, but I don't think so. This works fine just the way it is. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wendy's Comments
In truth, Amy won't be pleased to hear that you like her har, but she will be pleased to hear that you like her hair. Gotta start reading my messages before I hit the send button. Paul Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Hi Wendy, > I accidentally discarded your comments before I had a chance to respond. > But I wanted to say that I was very pleased to see another member put > forth an outstanding effort. > In regard to my photo, "Another Side of Amy," I think I agree that the > first Amy pic was better. However, it was less challenging in that it > was just a head and shoulders shot. In regard to the hand placement > (hands on thighs), I had to smile when I read that you thought it looked > like she was checking to see if she had her keys. Perhaps. And perhaps > it was a bit awkward. But -- dare I say it -- it was meant to be, well, > sexy. And I received a lot of comments from, well, men, who found the > pose subtly erotic. >But you have provided considerable food for thought, and it will be > well considered. What's more, Amy will be very pleased to hear that you > like her new har style. > Paul > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fill flash
> General rules for fill flash? Full power in bright sunshine, down a stop on cloudy >days, so it's less obvious. Adjust as needed to suit your personal taste. > > Pat White > - Thanks for the clear advice, Pat. I don't use flash much outdoors and was finding the discussion a bit daunting. About a month ago I was out in southern Wisconsin on a bright, sunny day, along with a friend who had one of his toddlers on his shoulders. I had my PZ-1p, FA Power Zoom 28-105, and Elitechrome Extra Color. I caught my friend and his daughter in a nice pose, so popped up the rtf flash and let the 1p do everything on automatic. Remember, this was on high-contrast slide film with zilch exposure latitude. Not only are my friend and his toddler perfectly exposed, so is the background. I don't recall the f-stop or shutter speed - it was the kind of moment one just has to take before the toddler starts to cry or something. I was very pleasantly surprised. The PZ-1p figured it all out, just like manual says it will. As I said, I don't take this kind of shot often. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
SMCT 35mm f2 and the yellow curse
A while back we were talking about the yellow curse and the three models of the screw mount 35mm f2 lens. JCO pointed out that only the larger first verion of the lens seems to be completely free of yellowing as the ages. I believed my version (SMCT) was also free but then noticed it did indeed have some yellow when compared to other lenses. On shooting my first roll of color print film (800 max, indoors but with a preponderance of sunlight) and I don't notice any color shift at all. It looks like I lucked out and can use this lens for color after all. Mind you, my example isn't as heavily afflicted as some older 50mm's I seen. Also, I got a chance to try out the 20mm f2.8 A lens and all I can say is wow! I used it for some snaps on both the Zx-5n and the LX and found it to be an amazing performer. One nice thing about this les is when set to its hyperfocal distance at f8 depth of field is 2.5 ft to infinity. Geez, set your lens and go! -Brendan MacRae - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
First photograph
Anyone interested in the Photo Techniques article regarding the first photograph can access it here: http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/neipce2.jpg It is about a 335kb scan. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Ever Photo in the World!
- Original Message - From: Oliver Raymond Subject: First Ever Photo in the World! > Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: > although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT > > Criteque? :) The July/ August issue of Photo Techniques doesn't agree. Apparently, another Niépce image, shot in 1825, is the actual first photograph. It sold at a Sotheby's auction in Paris, complete with Niépce's documentation, to the French government for $443,220. The French government then donated it to the French national library. Sorry, but it appears the information on this website falls into the "sky is pink, I read it on the web" category. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Wendy's Comments
Hi Wendy, I accidentally discarded your comments before I had a chance to respond. But I wanted to say that I was very pleased to see another member put forth an outstanding effort. In regard to my photo, "Another Side of Amy," I think I agree that the first Amy pic was better. However, it was less challenging in that it was just a head and shoulders shot. In regard to the hand placement (hands on thighs), I had to smile when I read that you thought it looked like she was checking to see if she had her keys. Perhaps. And perhaps it was a bit awkward. But -- dare I say it -- it was meant to be, well, sexy. And I received a lot of comments from, well, men, who found the pose subtly erotic. But you have provided considerable food for thought, and it will be well considered. What's more, Amy will be very pleased to hear that you like her new har style. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: First Ever Photo in the World!
Oh yeah... And to add to what you were saying. I remember reading somewhere that the Mayans would did a big pit and with a sort of "pinhole lens" would view such things as eclipses and such. Central American camera obscura? Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > surely the first photo was Leonardo da Vinci's self-portrait, which is > now doing the rounds as the Shroud of Turin . > In some ways photography has been around since at least the Middle > Ages. There's a fascinating book by Philip Steadman called "Vermeer's > Camera" in which the author argues that Vermeer used a camera obscura > to paint his most famous works. He makes a very good case. The book > includes a brief historical overview of the use of the camera obscura > and other optical devices by painters, sketchers and others which I'm > sure must be interest to most photographers. > --- > Bob > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:31:28 PM, you wrote: >> Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: >> although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) >> http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT >> Criteque? :) >> Oliver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: First Ever Photo in the World!
As you can see below, when I reply to an E-mail the littleautomatically gets removed by the Yahoo fairies. Don't ask me why Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Of course. I make no claim otherwise. I'm curious as to why you removed from your reply the smiley "" that was originally in my message. Without this it makes my comment about the Turin Shroud look serious. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, June 27, 2002, 9:28:52 PM, you wrote: > I don't think there is any doubt that the camera obscura predates Neipce's >heliograph. Neipce just developed the first photochemical process. > Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, > surely the first photo was Leonardo da Vinci's self-portrait, which is > now doing the rounds as the Shroud of Turin . > In some ways photography has been around since at least the Middle > Ages. There's a fascinating book by Philip Steadman called "Vermeer's > Camera" in which the author argues that Vermeer used a camera obscura > to paint his most famous works. He makes a very good case. The book > includes a brief historical overview of the use of the camera obscura > and other optical devices by painters, sketchers and others which I'm > sure must be interest to most photographers. > --- > Bob > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:31:28 PM, you wrote: >> Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: >> although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) >> http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT >> Criteque? :) >> Oliver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Manfrotto 055Cl vs Pro
Hi there, I may have an opportunity to buy a new (I guess) Manfrotto 055 Cl tripod and a heavy duty ballhead No 168. All this for $75 ($50 - tripod, $25 - head). My question is this - is the price right (I guess it is), and (more important) how often do you use the center column of the 055 Pro in horizontal position (I think it's the only difference between the 055 Cl and Pro). Regards, £ukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Where oh where is Shel?
Apparently, "Shelvis has left the building..." ...with his Holga. ;-) ciaou, frank David Chang-Sang wrote: > Wow.. with all the secrecy and concern (not that it isn't warranted or > anything) perhaps we should change his name from Shel to "Shelvis" ? :-) > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Where oh where is Shel?
Wow.. with all the secrecy and concern (not that it isn't warranted or anything) perhaps we should change his name from Shel to "Shelvis" ? :-) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where oh where is Shel? Well, seriously, I just heard from Shel yesterday. Seems he was out of commission for a week or two, but he seems to be up and around now, and feeling much better. I don't really have any more details, and probably wouldn't want to say much more even if I did, but: SHEL LIVES!!! cheers, frank William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Steve Larson > Subject: Re: Where oh where is Shel? > > > Shel is OK. He just sold all his Pentax and Leica stuff and > went with > > a Holga system. > > I figured he had recieved the negative for the print-off and was > tied to the darkroom. > > William Robb > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Vivitar 70-210 4.5-5.6 m42 zoom
Hi, Getting in on "For Sale Fridays" a day early (it must be Friday somewhere right now). I've decided to stick with primes for my screwmount bodies, having a couple of decent zooms for my k-mounts. This Vivitar is no world beater, to be sure. Genuine plastic barrel, "macro" (ha), not particularly sharp, but not ~that~ bad, either. One touch. No scratches on front or back elements (it's had a filter on it the whole time I've owned it - filter not included), no fungus or spots on lenses, comes with front and back lens caps and cheap collapsable rubber hood, and I think I have the original box somewhere, if not, I'll pack it up real good. A teeny bit of play in the focus/zoom ring (it came that way). Cosmetically, pretty good shape, a bit of worn paint on the aperture ring and threads of the mount, that's it. I bought it new about 3 or 4 years ago. A good lens for those bad weather days, when the rocks are slippery, and you don't want to get your Takumars dirty. $40Cdn, $25US, plus actual shipping costs; if you don't like those prices, talk to me... Contact me off list if interested. thanks, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Suggestion wanted: Which one to own ?
BUY THE PENTAX 135 3.5 SMC TAKUMAR, GREAT PERFORMER AND CHEAP ON THE USED MARKET. JCO > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prasanta Chakraborty > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Suggestion wanted: Which one to own ? > > > Hi, > > I am currently trying to complete my prime commection and would > like to buy a 135mm. I have an opportunity to choose from a Zeiss > Jena 135 3.5 and a Pentacon 135 2.8 (with stopdown metering). Both > are of the same price and in M42 screw mount. Can someone give > some suggestion which one to buy ? > > Regards, > Prasanta. > > _ > There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. > Go now http://monsterindia.com/rediffin/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: First Ever Photo in the World!
Hi, Of course. I make no claim otherwise. I'm curious as to why you removed from your reply the smiley "" that was originally in my message. Without this it makes my comment about the Turin Shroud look serious. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, June 27, 2002, 9:28:52 PM, you wrote: > I don't think there is any doubt that the camera obscura predates Neipce's >heliograph. Neipce just developed the first photochemical process. > Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > surely the first photo was Leonardo da Vinci's self-portrait, which is > now doing the rounds as the Shroud of Turin . > In some ways photography has been around since at least the Middle > Ages. There's a fascinating book by Philip Steadman called "Vermeer's > Camera" in which the author argues that Vermeer used a camera obscura > to paint his most famous works. He makes a very good case. The book > includes a brief historical overview of the use of the camera obscura > and other optical devices by painters, sketchers and others which I'm > sure must be interest to most photographers. > --- > Bob > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:31:28 PM, you wrote: >> Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: >> although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) >> http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT >> Criteque? :) >> Oliver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Ever Photo in the World!
You can tell it wasn't taken with a Pentax: The bokeh sucks! (sorry Wendy ) -frank Oliver Raymond wrote: > Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: > although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT > > Criteque? :) > > Oliver > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Where oh where is Shel?
Well, seriously, I just heard from Shel yesterday. Seems he was out of commission for a week or two, but he seems to be up and around now, and feeling much better. I don't really have any more details, and probably wouldn't want to say much more even if I did, but: SHEL LIVES!!! cheers, frank William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Steve Larson > Subject: Re: Where oh where is Shel? > > > Shel is OK. He just sold all his Pentax and Leica stuff and > went with > > a Holga system. > > I figured he had recieved the negative for the print-off and was > tied to the darkroom. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Current thinking on Medium Format scanners - CDN COST
That is a good price, because I just went to one of Epson's distributor's site, and their price is $567.59. Jeff - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: RE: Current thinking on Medium Format scanners - CDN COST > For those in the local area (TOPDML folk) who are interested in the 2450 as a decent Flatbed MF neg/slide scanner - I've hunted around and can recommend Infonec (http://www.infonec.com) as a point of purchase. > > $555.00 CDN before taxes. > > Vistek (http://www.vistek.ca) currently lists that same puppy at $649.00 CDN so you're going to save about $100.00 CDN. > > Infonec is a small computer store in the Markham area. Best bet is to call ahead and check for stock or place an order if you're interested (as I will if Jeff's scans turn out nicely) :) > > Cheers, > Dave > > > Original Message: > - > From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:58:17 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: Current thinking on Medium Format scanners? > > > If you're getting nice 5x5's, it means that you could get nice 1600x1600 > screen shots. Ideal for slide shows. > I may trouble you to do a couple of scans for me. > If it works out, I might purchase a 2450. > > Jeff > > - Original Message - > From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Current thinking on Medium Format scanners? > > > > Hi.I have only attempted 3-4 120 format scans to date(busy busy) > > I have tried some chrome and neg's.The best one was the colour neg > > on Portra 160vc.I think flatness in the holder may be > > an issue on this scanner,but,i happy with the ones that seem to be > > ok.I only printed them out about 5x5 but the colour and detail > > appear to be there. > > I seem to get better results from the Epson Twain,than Silverfast. > > It does a really good job on the prints. > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Ever Photo in the World!
I don't think there is any doubt that the camera obscura predates Neipce's heliograph. Neipce just developed the first photochemical process. Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, surely the first photo was Leonardo da Vinci's self-portrait, which is now doing the rounds as the Shroud of Turin . In some ways photography has been around since at least the Middle Ages. There's a fascinating book by Philip Steadman called "Vermeer's Camera" in which the author argues that Vermeer used a camera obscura to paint his most famous works. He makes a very good case. The book includes a brief historical overview of the use of the camera obscura and other optical devices by painters, sketchers and others which I'm sure must be interest to most photographers. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:31:28 PM, you wrote: > Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: > although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) > http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT > Criteque? :) > Oliver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Ever Photo in the World!
Hi, surely the first photo was Leonardo da Vinci's self-portrait, which is now doing the rounds as the Shroud of Turin . In some ways photography has been around since at least the Middle Ages. There's a fascinating book by Philip Steadman called "Vermeer's Camera" in which the author argues that Vermeer used a camera obscura to paint his most famous works. He makes a very good case. The book includes a brief historical overview of the use of the camera obscura and other optical devices by painters, sketchers and others which I'm sure must be interest to most photographers. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:31:28 PM, you wrote: > Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: > although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) > http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT > Criteque? :) > Oliver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
My 105 macro for your 90 macro?
My Kiron 105/2.8 1:1 macro is too close to my 135 to get as much general use as I'd like. (My next focal length down is a 50.) Is anyone interested taking it in trade for their Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 PK with 1:1 adapter? As many PDMLers know, the Kiron is the same lens that Vivitar sold as the Series 1 105/2.5K. Both 105s began as PKs and were replaced by PKAs; mine is the original PK. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS SMC FA 24mm f2
Hi Albano. Is this the "famous" 24/2.0 lense? In that case it is very good price and I am interested. Did you buy it as new or was it used?. How would you propose to make the transfer? By escrow or similar service? Cordially Peter >For sale: >SMC FA 24mm f 2. The lens is like new. I used it very carefully just for >some months. The only marks are a pair of minor paint losses in the hood. >Includes both original caps, original hood and original softcase and >papers. >$ 250 >Contact me privately for more details > >Albano >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Peter Smekal Uppsala, Sweden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: First Ever Photo in the World!
Can you imagine the excitement Neipce must have felt during this process and on it's completion. It must be right up there with finding a K 85/1.8, maybe even better! Oliver Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi - There's an article on msnbc that I thought you all would be interested in: although I'm pretty sure it was not taken with a Pentax :) http://www.msnbc.com/news/772860.asp?0dm=N15LT Criteque? :) Oliver - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: Fill flash
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton > > > Stephen, > > You can use the Auto function with any camera. Your 645NII will be > just fine. I believe the manual is correct in that you > should not use > program mode on the camera. If it is daylight, you will be best > served by using a slow speed film, start by setting the > shutter to the > fastest flash synch (1/60) and then set the aperture for the proper > exposure. Then set your flash f-stop according to what the camera > setting is. For example - if your camera was set to F8 and you were > in shade - you might want to set the flash to F5.6 to be 1 > stop less. > This is the part that is tricky to think about. In order for the > flash to put out less light, it has to be set to an F stop that is > more open than the camera. It will read in more ambient light and > quench the flash quicker. So basically think of setting > the flash to > the same f stop or a smaller number (bigger opening) than > the camera. Why would you prefer Auto over TTL? The flash metering in that camera is super accurate - just set the exposure manually, set the exposure compensation dial to -2 (or whatever) and fire away. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS Pentax Original Fisheye
For Sale: SMC Pentax K, 17mm f4 Fisheye. Excellent condition. Lens body is in great condition, glass is perfect, wothout fungus or scratches. The only marks in the lens are in the corners of the built-in hood, where the slip-on cap sits, where the paint weared off, but it's a very small area. The lens in in GREAT condition. It has built-in filters, gorgeous construction, and comes with both original caps, including the special front one. $ 350 or make me an offer. (keh asks 450) Contact me privately for more details Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS Pentax LX with FA1W, M 50 1.7 and SC 69 new-type screen
For sale: LX body with FA1W finder In very good cosmetic condition and perfect working condition. The shutter lock is KX style, but the shutter is the new-style-pattern, and mirror box is in perfect condition, without any signs of deterioration. No sticky mirror syndrome. I've been using the camera until today without any problem. It's a lovely perfect user camera, no need for CLA (of course you can do it if you want). It includes a like new grip B (with box and papers), an installed new style SC 69 screen (perfect condition, with box, tweezers and instruction) and an additional SC21standard screen. Also includes an original LX strap, and like new body and finder caps (to protect both if you separate them). Also included is a M 50 1.7 in great condition (some dust inside, otherwise like new) $ 500 Contact me privately for more details Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS SMC FA 24mm f2
For sale: SMC FA 24mm f 2. The lens is like new. I used it very carefully just for some months. The only marks are a pair of minor paint losses in the hood. Includes both original caps, original hood and original softcase and papers. $ 250 Contact me privately for more details Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SMC - A 70 - 210 macro ratio
Thanks Peter, Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul F. Stregevsky Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMC - A 70 - 210 macro ratio It's 1:4 throughout the standard range, 1:3 when the Macro setting is engaged at 70mm. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Fill flash
Stephen wrote: SH> ...with setting the aperture on the flash. Pat White responded that as a SH> general rule "full power in bright sunshine, down a stop on cloudy days." I SH> know it's a basic question but does "down a stop" refer to a wider or SH> narrower aperture? Narrower. On cloudy days you would want less flash output, no more than opening the shadows and giving a glimpse in the eyes. Full or more power will only emphasize the flash as the main light source, altering the natural look of the subject. On the contrary, when it is sunny and the subject has deep shadows, you need full power or even one extra stop to open the shadows and the flash effect still won't be obvious. Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Test / k1000
I'm wondering what would happen if we'd ALL go and test things :) Anyway, this afternoon I'm gonna get to pick up a k1000 for $ 65,-. This includes the Pentax-K SMC 50mm f2. Also the camera just had a check-up (which costed $35,-). Is it a good price for this camera? And, also, how do I recognise the good 'old' version from the less good 'newer' version? Thanks for u'r help, Rodelion. - Original Message - From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:53 PM Subject: Test > Test > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fill flash
Bruce, Thanks so much for the info on the fill flash question. As I said, I'm a beginner really and I appreciated all the help from the members. A couple more basic questions: Reading the manual that came with the flash unit and in the Auto section, it seems to indicate the Auto function is only for use with cameras that are not TTL Auto flash compatible. My 645NII is compatible but I'm assuming that it's still OK to use the Auto function anyway. The manual also says "When the camera's exposure mode is set to Programmed AE or Shutter Priority AE, the aperture value set on the flash will be automatically set on the camera." Does this mean that I would have to use Aperture priority or Manual modes only? If I'm correct about using aperture priority then my next question deals with setting the aperture on the flash. Pat White responded that as a general rule "full power in bright sunshine, down a stop on cloudy days." I know it's a basic question but does "down a stop" refer to a wider or narrower aperture? Again, thanks to you and all the members who responded to my first query on PUG. Stephen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:47 AM To: Stephen Hoffman Subject: Re: Fill flash Stephen, You do run into the issue of shutter speed - without a leaf shutter lens, you are limited to 1/60 or slower. Beyond that, meter and set the camera for proper exposure. Then set the flash to A mode (automatic - no ttl) and then set the f Stop (press the select button in center of dial, then spin the dial) to be x number of stops higher or lower than the camera. When you fire, the sensor in the flash will read the light and quench when appropriate. If you use TTL you will not be able to control the flash power. The advantage to the leaf shutter lens is that you can use most any shutter speed. The technique is still the same. Bruce Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 7:53:19 AM, you wrote: SH> I have an AF 360 FGZ but I am new to the idea of dedicated flash. I will be SH> using the flash unit on a 645NII. When using the flash unit for fill on a SH> sunny day, is there a way to control how much flash is put out? Are there SH> any general rules about what settings to use for fill flash? Thanks in SH> advance. SH> Stephen Hoffman SH> - SH> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, SH> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to SH> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
