Re[4]: A funny problem with digital
Jeff, Caring and being a jerk are not necessarily the same thing. Bruce Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 10:19:25 PM, you wrote: J - Original Message - J From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] J To: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] J Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:25 AM J Subject: Re[2]: A funny problem with digital David, I see one fundamental problem here. People take their film to Walmart because they care more about the price than they do about the quality. So you are already starting behind trying to explain to someone who doesn't care. Bruce J They must care, because as Bill mentioned, they refuse to pay for a J pixelated 8x10 image. J Maybe Digicam manufacturers should use enlargement sizes instead of pixel J count for the resolution settings. J Jeff.
Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Dan Scott wrote: Do you have a link for any info on the GT-9800F that is in English? I tried Babelfish, but most of the info on the page appears to be texted rendered in images rather than text their computers can attempt to translate. Actually babelfish works well for these pages. Try using these URLs for translation: GT-9800F Features: http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/scanner/gt9800f/9800f2.htm GT-9800F Specifications: http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/scanner/gt9800f/9800f3.htm -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4--
Re: OT: Philosophy of the Image
Keep also in mind that eg. Niepche, who produced the first photographic image, was a graphics artist. His research in light sensitive chemicals basically began with a wish to find a more practical etching method for his graphical plates. Reproduceable art was already present in many forms when photography was invented. However, photography was touted in the early days as an objective way of documenting real life. The old phrase that photos don't lie. That phrase alone must have degraded people's regard for photography as a form of art. But I guess with the advent of such fine equipment as could be delivered from the Asahi optical co., it all changed for the better... (on topic alibi...:-)) Jostein - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:27 AM Subject: Re: OT: Philosophy of the Image Hi, Steve, On the contrary, photography freed visual artists from painting only representational images, opening the doors to impressionism, abstract, surrealism, and everything that flowed from those. And, on the subject of reproductions, prior to photography, there were woodcuts, which could mass produce images. regards, frank Steve Desjardins wrote: How about this for a for a better title for the Texas Medium Format Massacre thread? Actually, I think film photography was what began the devaluation of the visual arts. Before photos, a painting was a unique object, difficult to reproduce. Although no two prints are exactly the same, good copies can be made and even the negative can be copied. No one objects to getting a copy of a photograph, and the original print only has extra value to a collector. The digital image just carries this reproducibility one more step. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: Stofen Omni Bounce
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Stephen Hoffman wrote: Anyone have any experience with and comments on the Stofen Omni Bounce? I would be using it on a 360 FGZ flash. I'm still trying to find ways to soften and diffuse flash output particularly up close on portraits etc. I found OmniBounce worked very well in a medium sized room with portraits at medium distance. The results can be quite pleasing (better than other diffuser I have tried), but I don't think it works very well up close. As for Pentax flash, no, they don't have one custom made for AF360FGZ. I wrote to Stofen's customer support back in July regarding which models for AF360FGZ, and this is the reply I got (very speedy response, by the way; I got a reply on the same day - and that was a Sunday!): The OM-PZ4 comes close but is not an exact fit. It would take the help of a little tape to make it secure. We hopefully will be making something for this one later this year possibly but do not have a commitment to do so yet. Ernie -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4--
Re: OT: Philosophy of the Image
- Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I guess with the advent of such fine equipment as could be delivered from the Asahi optical co., it all changed for the better... (on topic alibi...:-)) oh, well... suppose I didn't need that in an OT thread... :-) Jostein
Matrix metering and KM lenses
According to Mark Roberts and Bojidar Dimitrov (Thank's !!) i have write my (French) personal page on this modification: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/Photo/multizone.htm I used a non destructive method while isolating contacts with adhesive ribbon. It must be resistant and thin, i use Kapton. I have found others advantages: - with the MZ-S associated to the AF360FGZ flash, you can use the P-TTL and high speed synchro mode - the flashes AF330.360.500 display distances of use. I have a question again: How function MZ-M, MZ-30 and MZ-50 bodies with these modified lenses? (normally, they don't accept the KM lenses) Someone has this tried ? Michel
Deletion fixes all
Good morning all, I have just deleted the last 400 messages in my pdml inbox. The Texas Exhibition thread and its offshoots were getting on my nerves. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002
Re: A funny problem with digital
Williams, Perhaps that fractal program I've seen advertised, I've forgotten the name, could be used to enlarge *some* files to make it possible to make bigger prints? I have no experience of enlarging files, but maybe it would work? Perhaps someone on the list know about this. I'd be interested. Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the meantime. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:15 AM Subject: A funny problem with digital Today, a lady came up to my counter and asked if we could take the file from a floppy and make an 8x10 print from it. My co worker put the disk into the Picture Maker and went through the pre printing steps. The machine said the biggest print it wanted to do from the file was a wallet size. At this point, I took over the job, as my associate had some trepidations about the whole thing. I told her that the file was too small to make the print size she wanted. She said she wanted an 8x10, not a wallet. I asked her how big the file was (the Kodak machine doesn't go into those sorts of detail). She didn't know. I asked her if she knew the pixel dimensions. No go there either. All she knew was that the thing had been emailed to her, it looked nice on her computer screen and she wanted an 8x10 of it. She also knew that the guy who took the picture had a really good digital camera. Since it's not my money, I made the 8x10. It was a picture of 2 people in front of a sign (you would have to be a realtor to appreciate it, I think). The faces were about 40 pixels each... She wasn't happy at all, and decided to take the job to someplace that would do a better job of it. I thought of an old adage that if all you have is a hammer, you try to make everthing into a nail, though I don't know why. I suspect that what was going through my head was that if all you know is computers, you will try to do everything with a computer. I also had a conversation with a fellow today who had just returned from the UK. He had gone to retrieve his son, and had taken some pictures with his Sony digital camera. He wanted to know if we could make prints, and what he needed to bring us. I asked how many megapixels the camera was. He thought it was 3 MP. I asked how big the files were. He didn't know, but he knew he had about 70 pictures on the 32mb card. I sent him to one of our other stores.. These sorts of incidents are happening more and more frequently. It's funny, really. I never have had these problems with film users. The image capture was always good enough with film. Now, all of a sudden, there are all these stupid people out there figuring that since it's digital it must be wonderful. For some reason, it's the lab's fault that we can't make a good print from too small digital file. For some reason, I think that consumer digital is going to fall flat on it's face. Most people are just too stupid to figure things out, and when they start getting consistently bad results from ther new digitoys, they will probably go back to what they know works, which is film. We went through something similar with video cameras in the 80's. A lot of people bought em, but a year later, they were back to shooting film again, and the Sony TR8's were in the back of the closet. William Robb
RE: What's happening with the list?
Of course not - that's the point of post-modernism, that you cannot observe anything because the very act of observation changes it - in fact you may never be certain that anything really exists, only that you may or may not observe it, and if you do it's not what you thinketc. etc. etc until your brain fries. John Coyle (who really promises not to enter into this nonsense any more) Brisbane, Australia On Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:16 AM, Norm Baugher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: That's because the other messages aren't 'real'... G Norm
Re: Which Photo quality printer?
gfen wrote: I haven't figured out the best way to hand them files, though, I know it prints at 300dpi, but I don't knwo if I should give them 300dpi .tifs, or 1200dpi .tifs (1200 is the highest my crappy flatbed gives me, it also gives me massive amounts of what I can only assume are newton rings, and it hurts me to see them) Newton rings are the bane of scanning on a glass plate. I've had slides scanned that way and the resulting files were unusable. When you send your images to the lab, scan the film at whatever resolution you like, but just make sure of the following: a) There is enough information in the scanned image to get a good print b) The file itself is sized to 300ppi before you send it out. You set this number in your editing software (its part of the image size dialog in Photoshop). I've found that a 1200ppi scan of a 35mm neg will get you a reasonably good 6x4 minilab print if you're careful. If you want anything bigger you'll start wishing for more scanner resolution :) (yes, there is a subtle difference between ppi and dpi... dots are not always the same as pixels; eg inkjet printers) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
Pål Jensen wrote: Well, I'm considering a film scanner as well. Something that can scan medium format in addition to 35mm slides. A Nikon 8000 is out of the question due to its price. The guys at my local camera shop have told me that the Nikon 8000 had a few problems. At least all the ones they sold did. The Minolta MF-capable scanners are apparently quite nice, but any MF- capable film scanner is likely to be expensive since Agfa dropped out of the market (the cheaper Agfas were only 1200ppi though). I still wish that the HP S20 could scan larger film - it has support for 7x5 prints in addition to 35mm film. But you can't put 120 into it. Your best bet may be a good 35mm film scanner combined with a flatbed for 645. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Digital and film (WAS:The flagship is coming! The flagship is coming!)
Frits Wüthrich wrote: ratio you also could express it in dB. I am just comparing those two light levels here. If it was 10 stops as in your example, the ratio would be 1000, or 30dB. A factor of 1000 is actually 60dB. The formula is dB = 20 log(ratio). Just being picky :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Deletion fixes all
Don, Ummmjust a curious question, why did you tell us this? You don't have to answer this if you find it invasive, but how did 400 old messages of that thread bother you? How did deletion help you? Perhaps it could help others. It was a crazy thread. Certainly, if new messages on the Texas Exhibition thread and its offshoots got on your nerves, I could see the deletion or filtering of it. I'm just curious, as I have all the PDML emails here, the good and the bad, but they cause me no harm because they are past. Now, I would understand if you were 'cleaning house', as I have 12693 messages from the PDML here, and numerous ones in my inbox privately. I am lazy and collect junk, or I would have flushed them out. I'm sorta new, but does anyone out there have a higher total than mine? Respectfully, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:30 AM Subject: Deletion fixes all Good morning all, I have just deleted the last 400 messages in my pdml inbox. The Texas Exhibition thread and its offshoots were getting on my nerves. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002
I'll be back...
Hi all, I'm unsubscribing for a few days while I take the train northwards for the long weekend. I do not want to come home to 1200 email messages :) I'll be back early next week... Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Photographic Training
Hey folks, I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a community college course, or something else, like training under a professional or having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years of simple experience and perhaps reading books? Just wondering why (besides my lack of experience) you folks are so far ahead of me ;-) Regards, Brad Dobo
Re: law and image
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rob Studdert wrote: Well if you've seen any images out of Bali in the last ten days of so the teams of evidence gathering personel all seem to have digicams in hand, I haven't seen a film camera yet. Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV programmes such as CSI, Silent Witness, Dalziel Pascoe, etc as my flipping family seem to be then all you tend to see is film cameras being used by forensics/pathologists. Of course they're all fiction, but it is my understanding as of this moment that in a UK court of law film is preferred. Cotty, care to comment from the (digital) TV news point of view?? Chris
RE: Which Photo quality printer?
I think the 1280 and 1290 use an ink cartridge with a chip in it. This stops you using third party inks. Not a great problem unless you want to use the true black and white inks that specialist companies make. If you do a lot of black and white, the 1270 is best I think. A word on pigment based inks - the colour is nowhere near as vivid as normal inkjets. They may have better archival qualities but the prints come 'pre-faded' as the ink doesn't work so well in the first place!! -Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:daniel559;directvinternet.com] I have the 1270, too, and it is a very nice printer though it is out of production. Its successors, the 1280 and 1290, are both available new, I believe. One of their nicest features (aside from image quality) is the ability to handle good sized pieces of paper--13x44. The 1280 and 1290 both print full bleed, but I think printing an 8x10 on a piece of 13x19 trimmed down a little looks great (that lovely expanse of white makes even the most humble photo stand tall). Another Epson you might want to look at is the 2200, it uses an advanced set of inks (pigments, not dyes) with exceptional colorfastness. Properly mounted, current estimates are 75+ years of daily display with no perceptible color shift. I think the 1270-80-90s are rated at about 25 years depending on the papers used. Dan Scott
RE: Stofen Omni Bounce
I got the MZ3 gold one to fit my Sigma EF-430 ST and it is a perfect fit for the 360FGZ too - without extra fixings. I will double check this tonight before anyone rushes out and buys one on my word. Havent used it much yet though. This thread has reminded me I must try it out properly. If it is as good as it promises I will use it a lot over Xmas. -Original Message- From: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:lawrence;vex.net] Sent: 24 October 2002 07:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stofen Omni Bounce On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Stephen Hoffman wrote: Anyone have any experience with and comments on the Stofen Omni Bounce? I would be using it on a 360 FGZ flash. I'm still trying to find ways to soften and diffuse flash output particularly up close on portraits etc. I found OmniBounce worked very well in a medium sized room with portraits at medium distance. The results can be quite pleasing (better than other diffuser I have tried), but I don't think it works very well up close. As for Pentax flash, no, they don't have one custom made for AF360FGZ. I wrote to Stofen's customer support back in July regarding which models for AF360FGZ, and this is the reply I got (very speedy response, by the way; I got a reply on the same day - and that was a Sunday!): The OM-PZ4 comes close but is not an exact fit. It would take the help of a little tape to make it secure. We hopefully will be making something for this one later this year possibly but do not have a commitment to do so yet. Ernie -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4--
Re: What's happening with the list?
Now thats debateable... Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:35 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Well, isn't that better than getting digests full of messages from Brad Dobo? ;-) - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? That's because the other messages aren't 'real'... G Norm Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I'm getting few digests with most of the messages from Chaso DeChaso. ???
Re: spot beam?
I know, I was so happy that someone was finally talking about cameras even if its one of the others ones, ha. Its not hard, used both the dynax 9 and dynax 5 and a cannon eos3, bloody good bodies, pity about the lenses. I'd rather have a cheap MZS and really good pentax lenses than the dynax 9 though Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:34 AM Subject: Re: spot beam? Hahaha...yes Feroze. I was really thinking that where indeed to we place our hands on such a camera? 3 beams, I would think it may be hard to hold the camera, just like an extreme fisheye lens :) - Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: spot beam? The professional section of your local camera shop, don't know the password though :) Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:42 AM Subject: Re: spot beam? And where would one put his/her hands on such a camera? - Original Message - From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: Re: spot beam? The Maxxum 9 has three spot beam projectors in the body, one for each AF point. This is the best application I've seen. --- Michel_Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Coyle a écrit: Andre, the MZ-S built-in flash gives a short (.5 -1 second flash) of sufficient intensity and duration for the AF to function. Coverage of the flash is most likely related to the set focal length of the lens currently fitted. On the other hand, the AF330FTZ, for example, projects a red light beam of low intensity and low frequency, and much longer duration, to achieve the same purpose. The beam describes a circle of approximately 200mm diameter at 2 metres, and this beam contains a pattern of vertical lines to assist the AF system. Other flash units may display different behaviour. The AF360FGZ as larger light beam according to the pattern of multipoint (6) AF. Better as AF330FTZ for the MZ-S and ZX-L (MZ-6) Michel = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: A funny problem with digital
Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the meantime. I think it's called 'Genuine Fractals', but I've never used it. However, you stiall can't add any new information with it. All you can do is make the expanded file look smooth instead of pixelated. -Scott
Re: What's happening with the list?
Now I'm quite hurt, see my emoticon? ;-( Brad Dobo ;p - Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Now thats debateable... Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:35 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Well, isn't that better than getting digests full of messages from Brad Dobo? ;-) - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? That's because the other messages aren't 'real'... G Norm Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I'm getting few digests with most of the messages from Chaso DeChaso. ???
Re: Deletion fixes all
Well done! Bob - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Deletion fixes all Good morning all, I have just deleted the last 400 messages in my pdml inbox. The Texas Exhibition thread and its offshoots were getting on my nerves. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002
RE: A funny problem with digital
-Original Message- From: Scott Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: ceturtdiena, 2002. gada 24. oktobr 12:04 Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the meantime. I think it's called 'Genuine Fractals', but I've never used it. However, you stiall can't add any new information with it. All you can do is make the expanded file look smooth instead of pixelated. Not quite so. Practically any tool, that can resize images using bilinear or spline/bicubic interpolations, makes the resulting image smooth (I know only one tool that can't do it - Microsoft Paint :). Genuine Fractals helps to preserve image sharpness, that is, if there is a sharp edge (line) on the image, the resulting image will have the same sharp (more or less) edge, not blurred one. And as most images ca be seen as regions with the edges, filled with some color - then image enlarged with Genuine Fractals will look better. Ed
Re: Photographic Training
I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a community college course, or something else, like training under a professional or having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years of simple experience and perhaps reading books? Just wondering why (besides my lack of experience) you folks are so far ahead of me ;-) I am certainly not ahead of anyone that I have known throughout my life. But I started to do photography as a hobby back in the late 80's, and still is. I have received no training or education over the years, umm... I mean photographically. Most of my knowledge was gathered from magazines, observation and experiments. I have read some books too over the years, but none that I found particular useful as I remember. For this reason, I have zero knowledge on darkroom because I have never had the chance. But it is also true that I have never displayed any of my own work so I have never had the urge to learn it either. I guess I just enjoy taking pictures and playing with my gears more than anything else, so I just keep doing it. :) regards, Alan Chan _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
OT: Stuff Re: Deletion fixes all
My Dear Brad, The first message about the Texas exhibition was about 400 messages down and I simply couldn't be bothered to sort them out before deleting. It was my way of saying I'd had enough and a superfluous message to those not taking part. The thread had degenerated and was/is about to go bad. But you too spend quite a lot of time posting stuff that is designed to let us know how clever you are. Strings of silly pseudo-philosophical crap don't do it. Especially when they are laced with meaningless, out of place, abstractions. Here are some more useless observations: In every room where there is a group of people exceeding some number that I've forgotten, there will be two who were born on the same day; one in 20 will be a leader; there will be a couple of bullies and a drunk; at least one smart alec and a bigot. I forget the rest now - its simple statistics. Below is something useful: One thing we should all learn from being part of a sizable list like this is that there is always someone who knows more than you do about the subject at hand. If you resent this you are a fool. If you exploit this fact to improve your own knowledge or understanding, then you have much to gain. Simple plain English with no smiling face crap. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Deletion fixes all Don, Ummmjust a curious question, why did you tell us this? You don't have to answer this if you find it invasive, but how did 400 old messages of that thread bother you? How did deletion help you? Perhaps it could help others. It was a crazy thread. Certainly, if new messages on the Texas Exhibition thread and its offshoots got on your nerves, I could see the deletion or filtering of it. I'm just curious, as I have all the PDML emails here, the good and the bad, but they cause me no harm because they are past. Now, I would understand if you were 'cleaning house', as I have 12693 messages from the PDML here, and numerous ones in my inbox privately. I am lazy and collect junk, or I would have flushed them out. I'm sorta new, but does anyone out there have a higher total than mine? Respectfully, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:30 AM Subject: Deletion fixes all Good morning all, I have just deleted the last 400 messages in my pdml inbox. The Texas Exhibition thread and its offshoots were getting on my nerves. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002
Re: A funny problem with digital
Scott, I had an idea that the program could (intelligently) fit in extra pixels to expand an image as well. I haven't found it yet. I'm busy cleaning up my drives. Maybe I'm wrong about the interpolation, but if it does that it might be quite useful - within limits of course Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Scott Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the meantime. I think it's called 'Genuine Fractals', but I've never used it. However, you stiall can't add any new information with it. All you can do is make the expanded file look smooth instead of pixelated. -Scott
Re: What's happening with the list?
Brad, But you don't have 'emoticons' going around in your head, as it has been suggested I have. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Now I'm quite hurt, see my emoticon? ;-( Brad Dobo ;p - Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Now thats debateable... Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:35 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Well, isn't that better than getting digests full of messages from Brad Dobo? ;-) - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? That's because the other messages aren't 'real'... G Norm Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I'm getting few digests with most of the messages from Chaso DeChaso. ???
Re: law and image
So what you saying is things are back to normal? Feroze - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: Re: law and image Daniel, Few of DeChaso's last dozen messages make any sense at all. This thread, having been split, is now running off crazily in several directions at once. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: law and image Your reply makes no sense to me at all. Chaso DeChaso wrote: Can I cite coursework? The problem is I don't know a reference where the issue has been settled - and herein lies the non-existence of a standard.
Re: A funny problem with digital
Thanks William, now I know how little I knew about how little everybody knows, though I still don't know if I wanted to know. But its good to know anyway cause you never know when you will need to know Feroze - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:43 AM Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital No Dave, you can't possibly be coming from the customer POV here. You don't know little enough to be able to imagine how little they know, and how little they want to know. Whether you know it or not, you know to much to be able to know how little they know, and how little they want to know. It's quite amazing how little they want to know. They want to point, and shoot. And get a picture. William Robb
Re: Which Photo quality printer?
All epson cartridges have chips, thats why you can't refill it. There is a company called Inktech that makes epson refilled cartridges though, they buy blank ones and fill it with ink they buy in bulk from epson, lexmark, Hp etc and sell it under their brand name. I don't seem to get as much prints out of them but they are 2/3's the OEM price so its all good Feroze - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Which Photo quality printer? I think the 1280 and 1290 use an ink cartridge with a chip in it. This stops you using third party inks. Not a great problem unless you want to use the true black and white inks that specialist companies make. If you do a lot of black and white, the 1270 is best I think. A word on pigment based inks - the colour is nowhere near as vivid as normal inkjets. They may have better archival qualities but the prints come 'pre-faded' as the ink doesn't work so well in the first place!! -Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:daniel559;directvinternet.com] I have the 1270, too, and it is a very nice printer though it is out of production. Its successors, the 1280 and 1290, are both available new, I believe. One of their nicest features (aside from image quality) is the ability to handle good sized pieces of paper--13x44. The 1280 and 1290 both print full bleed, but I think printing an 8x10 on a piece of 13x19 trimmed down a little looks great (that lovely expanse of white makes even the most humble photo stand tall). Another Epson you might want to look at is the 2200, it uses an advanced set of inks (pigments, not dyes) with exceptional colorfastness. Properly mounted, current estimates are 75+ years of daily display with no perceptible color shift. I think the 1270-80-90s are rated at about 25 years depending on the papers used. Dan Scott
Re: Photographic Training
I'm only formally trained in Graphic design and fashion design. But they teach your compostion, golden rules, colour and related stuff regardless of which art you get into. Around here you can get a 3 year diploma at a technikon in photography or can get registered with the Professional Photographers Association of South Africa if you have a mentor who is registered and elects to tutor you privately. Unfortunately all my wise friends use nikon or minolta and they keep reminding me of how I'll never turn pro with what I got :( But then again I also wrote 2 modules for MCSE before I changed my mind and I still know more than most of the youngsters coming up now. IMHO experience is the only thing that will get you ahead Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML (Pentax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Photographic Training Hey folks, I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a community college course, or something else, like training under a professional or having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years of simple experience and perhaps reading books? Just wondering why (besides my lack of experience) you folks are so far ahead of me ;-) Regards, Brad Dobo
Re: Why did the chicken cross the road?
There was an argument, damm I missed it, all I got was some mail from the PDML legal department, and lawyers aren't allowed to flame Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML (Pentax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Why did the chicken cross the road? To get away from all the PDML arguments! ;-)
Re: Which Photo quality printer?
Try www.scantips.com for a whole list of tips regarding dpi, scan resolution and stuff. Image dpi and actual print resolution is commonly mistaken as the same thing Your scanner probally only true scans at 300dpi and is scanning 1200 dpi interpolated. Can you fiddle with your line screen settings? Feroze - Original Message - From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: Re: Which Photo quality printer? gfen wrote: I haven't figured out the best way to hand them files, though, I know it prints at 300dpi, but I don't knwo if I should give them 300dpi .tifs, or 1200dpi .tifs (1200 is the highest my crappy flatbed gives me, it also gives me massive amounts of what I can only assume are newton rings, and it hurts me to see them) Newton rings are the bane of scanning on a glass plate. I've had slides scanned that way and the resulting files were unusable. When you send your images to the lab, scan the film at whatever resolution you like, but just make sure of the following: a) There is enough information in the scanned image to get a good print b) The file itself is sized to 300ppi before you send it out. You set this number in your editing software (its part of the image size dialog in Photoshop). I've found that a 1200ppi scan of a 35mm neg will get you a reasonably good 6x4 minilab print if you're careful. If you want anything bigger you'll start wishing for more scanner resolution :) (yes, there is a subtle difference between ppi and dpi... dots are not always the same as pixels; eg inkjet printers) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: What's happening with the list?
Theres a smiley, its sideways, goes like this - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Now I'm quite hurt, see my emoticon? ;-( Brad Dobo ;p - Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Now thats debateable... Feroze - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:35 AM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? Well, isn't that better than getting digests full of messages from Brad Dobo? ;-) - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? That's because the other messages aren't 'real'... G Norm Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I'm getting few digests with most of the messages from Chaso DeChaso. ???
Re: B W recommendations
I shoot Delta 3200 at 1600 as well, but process to Delta's 3200 specs. I've been using it in D-76 straight up but have also had success with T-Max developer. I made some 11x14s of my daughter performing a violin solo that I had shot on Delta 3200 with my 6x7, and they're as fine grained as 35mm tri-x prints with better highlites and shadow detail. It's become one of my favorite films. Paul Glen O'Neal wrote: Paul, I haven't yet. But I would love to and plan to try it out very soon. I will let you know how it turns out. I have really been pleased with the results I get from the Delta 3200 shot at 1600. Glen -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:pnstenquist;comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: B W recommendations I love Delta 3200 in 6x7. Are you shooting those PJ weddings in medium format? Paul Glen O'Neal wrote: Stephen After shooting BW photojournalistic wedding for 5 years I have settled on Ilford Delta 400 Pro for the prep and reception with flash and Ilford Delta 3200 (rated at 1600) for the ceremony without flash. Never been disappointed. I am going to start experimenting with the 3200 at the reception. No flash, less obtrusive, more candid. Just my $.02 Glen O'Neal -Original Message- From: Stephen Hoffman [mailto:stephen.hoffman;gte.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: B W recommendations I need help in trying out B W film. I haven't shot any in years and I have been asked to shoot some in a wedding soon. Because of the time factor I can't experiment with too many so I'm looking for advice and hopefully I can narrow it down to a few. Thanks. Stephen Hoffman
Re: B W recommendations
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote: Anyone have a good HC110 recipie to PULL process Tri-X iso 100 (forgot to set the film speed). What speed did you shoot it at? 100. Although, its old, so I'm hoping its natural degradtion combined with the fact that its only 1 2/3rd stop over what I would normally shoot won't cause too much of an issue. I meant to take the time to search the internet for a higher dilution of HC110 that woudl take care of it, but I didn't have a chance before I ran ou yesterday.
Re: B W recommendations
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Thibault GROUAS wrote: I would do 5-6 mins depending on contrast with rodinal 1+50 but sorry I never used HC110. Ilford Perceptol diluted 1+3 is a good one for pull Bill gave me an Xtol reciepe (there must be a catchy word for this I just don't know about, yet), but I'm probably gonna just try and find something experimental (or experiment myself) in HC110, as the images aren't important (I take a walk through a 'nature preserve' over lunch, and just like to noodle around with my camera, make it a point to take a roll whenever I go there), I'd just like to try and save them because I did get something I feel would appeal to me. Either way. Oh, in other news, the camera club I joined awhile ago is having a gallery show. Something tells me that not many others will be presenting things to hang, but I think I will anyway. Bought some budget frames and some overmat last night, I just have to find a way to effectivly and cheaply mount the photos to frame.. although, I've noticed as I just played around that sheer pressure works well enough, still have to buy a piece of acid free to lay behind the i mage. I ramble lots...
RE: A funny problem with digital
If you get enough of these customer encounters it might be worth while to have photographic examples on display that show what you get with small file sizes when you try to get enlarged prints. Ken Waller On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:19:12 -0700 (PDT), David Chang-Sang wrote: Umm.. Yes I am coming from a customer POV. There was a time when I knew little enough and I had to have some things explained to me. If I didn't get the right explanation, I'd move on to someone who did give me the right explanation and they'd usually end up having me as a repeat customer. Car repair is a decent example (especially since I know diddly about repairing autos beyond putting gas into the tank and going for the oil change) :-) What happens when you try to make a boring technical description of file size (it has to be at least 1200 x 1600 pixels for an 8x10, ma'am) as simple as you can, and their eyes still glaze over? Well, you don't make it boring - you take your time and say What you see on your screen and what gets printed out are different forms of media. One is projective (the computer screen) and one is reflective (the print), just like how a tv projects images and a mirror reflects images. The projective media doesn't need a lot of information to look good that's why your computer screen picture looks great but the print will look lousy. The ability to use analogy, especially when you see their eyes glaze over, is underestimated. It helps them in more ways than you can imagine. Now if you're working at a WalMart or some other picture mill, then you probably won't have the luxury of time and I could understand not wanting to explain things that may cause a backlog in the take my film/gimme my pictures process. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital snip No Dave, you can't possibly be coming from the customer POV here. You don't know little enough to be able to imagine how little they know, and how little they want to know. Whether you know it or not, you know to much to be able to know how little they know, and how little they want to know. It's quite amazing how little they want to know. They want to point, and shoot. And get a picture. William Robb /snip Ken Waller PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: A funny problem with digital
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not quite so. Practically any tool, that can resize images using bilinear or spline/bicubic interpolations, makes the resulting image smooth (I know only one tool that can't do it - Microsoft Paint :). some do it better than others, usually because of bugs in their algorithms. Photoshop is the one that does it best when downsampling to a lower resolution of the dozen or so programs i tried. Herb
RE: Which Photo quality printer?
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the 1280 and 1290 use an ink cartridge with a chip in it. This stops you using third party inks. Not a great problem unless you want to use the true black and white inks that specialist companies make. If you do a lot of black and white, the 1270 is best I think. you can buy chip reprogrammers for about $35US. Herb..
Re: A funny problem with digital
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott, I had an idea that the program could (intelligently) fit in extra pixels to expand an image as well. I haven't found it yet. I'm busy cleaning up my drives. Maybe I'm wrong about the interpolation, but if it does that it might be quite useful - within limits of course Don they claim to do it and it does to a very limited degree. the higher the resolution of the original, the more you could expand it. can't start from garbage. too high an original and you run into problems too since film grain starts to be replicated at a really high enlargement. of course, you will probably run out of RAM on your computer first. Herb...
Re: What's happening with the list?
GROAN! Norm Baugher wrote: That's because the other messages aren't 'real'... G Norm Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I'm getting few digests with most of the messages from Chaso DeChaso. ??? -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:djm;stanleypmlaw.com Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:dmatyola;yahoo.com Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: Photographic Training
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Photographic Training Hey folks, I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a community college course, or something else, like training under a professional or having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years of simple experience and perhaps reading books? I got involved in photography, I think 32 years ago now when my parents gave me a little home darkroom kit for Christmas. Shortly after that, I started working for a local wedding photographer as an assistant (I think I was 14), and I worked for him 6 or 7 years. During that time, I also got to know some of the local old guys and spent a lot of time talking photography with them. I met another fellow, completely by accident who was also learning the craft of BW photography and we fell into a most excellent friendship. He was a pianist (go figure), and has a very good eye. He taught me much about composition, and turned me on to the quality advantages of medium format (he is a Hasselblad user). At some point, I gyess 45 years ago, I got a photo lab job. I moved around a bit, chasing one girl or another, but ended up working in minilabs after the fall of the commercial lab empire. I have taken photo technical training from Kodak (who offered me a job in Rochester when I produced a perfect score on their colour acuity tests), Fuji, CX systems (the Gretag distributor in Seattle Washington), and Noritsu. Most of my visual training, such as it is, is informal sitting around with a bunch of photographers critiquing each others work. William Robb
Re: law and image
Chris wrote: Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV programmes such as CSI, Silent Witness, Dalziel Pascoe, etc as my flipping family seem to be then all you tend to see is film cameras being used by forensics/pathologists. In the news coverage of the sniper investigation around Washington, I've seen lots of police officers taking crime scene photos with digital cameras. My household pathologist uses digital and film for her photos. It makes no difference in court which is presented. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: A funny problem with digital
- Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital Scott, Okay. According to all I've read this afternoon on the web about Genuine Fractals it seems to be able to do what I thought - resize without messing things too badly. One author writes this about resizing images upwards with the Photoshop Plug-in: I used Genuine Fractals to boost the size of a very small digital camera image (I think I had about 160x200 pixels to work with) so I could run an 8x10 print. It worked, sort of. I still had to do a bunch of smoothing work, but it was way better than I expected. This doesn't help with the original problem, which is a point and shoot customer base that wants to treat digital photography the same way as regular photography. They don't want a computer program, they want Aunt Martha in the back row to be in focus. And it has to be point and shoot, with no real thought going into it. If they can't get that, they will go back to film. William Robb
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Re: Let's go back to September 25,2002 (WAS Re: Stuff Re: Deletion fixes all)
Poor Brad, Don't be silly. I never once said I objected to bad language. You got it wrong then and still have it wrong. You'd better dig some more, amongst your 12693 messages, and find out what really happened. But even if we were all to start swearing like troopers the FAQ allows for this. It tells us that this is an adult list and more. However, some weeks ago our attention was drawn to the fact that there are some youngsters reading the posts. Since then no one has used strong language. Some of us find many of your endless stream of posts tiresome and have said as much. If you insist on posting rubbish people are bound to object; some gently as I have done up to now. But I eventually realised that irony escapes you and my efforts had been in vain. So I became more forthright. But that has only hurt your feelings. You also need funny faces to help you along. Too bad. I had a filter for you, but when the list got in a mess it stopped working. I'll fix it now. If you need to discuss this message you'll have to contact me off list. But I have to warn you I might not be so gentle. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Let's go back to September 25,2002 (WAS Re: Stuff Re: Deletion fixes all) Doctor, Talk about useless junk mail! You swore a couple times in there I see. If I remember correctly, you got all hot and bothered with a questionable email I had written, told the group what you thought, and left us for a while, funny thing, the list members noticed that while you slammed me about language, you made the mistake yourself when responding. It's interesting that when you came back, you found yourself in the middle of an argument right away. I did not dig enough to see when you started posting again, but it seems to me you came back just to argue. From September 25, 2002 (there is another such email, but I didn't want to spend much time dealing with inflated heads) -Begin Message- Can't handle 300+ messages a day; don't wish to handle messages where people call each other 'Pl d**k' or 'S**t for Brains' and write 'f**k you!'; or where they insult beloved public figures and deride the values of others. Can't handle this puerile s**t - so bye-bye for a while. D Dr E D F Williams -End Message- Of course I removed some letters for posting here, but you at the time did not. At least your language this time was toned down, yet to many people, it is still swearing. Moreover, you behaved rather foolishly and insultingly while telling me not to? Seems like the Dr. title has gone to your head. Time for filter #2 Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:06 AM Subject: OT: Stuff Re: Deletion fixes all My Dear Brad, The first message about the Texas exhibition was about 400 messages down and I simply couldn't be bothered to sort them out before deleting. It was my way of saying I'd had enough and a superfluous message to those not taking part. The thread had degenerated and was/is about to go bad. But you too spend quite a lot of time posting stuff that is designed to let us know how clever you are. Strings of silly pseudo-philosophical crap don't do it. Especially when they are laced with meaningless, out of place, abstractions. Here are some more useless observations: In every room where there is a group of people exceeding some number that I've forgotten, there will be two who were born on the same day; one in 20 will be a leader; there will be a couple of bullies and a drunk; at least one smart alec and a bigot. I forget the rest now - its simple statistics. Below is something useful: One thing we should all learn from being part of a sizable list like this is that there is always someone who knows more than you do about the subject at hand. If you resent this you are a fool. If you exploit this fact to improve your own knowledge or understanding, then you have much to gain. Simple plain English with no smiling face crap. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Deletion fixes all Don, Ummmjust a curious question, why did you tell us this? You don't have to answer this if you find it invasive, but how did 400 old messages of that thread bother you? How did deletion help you? Perhaps it could help others. It was a crazy thread. Certainly, if new messages on the Texas Exhibition thread
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Re: OT: Nikon 50's
Hi, Tom No, the old is not going to work. The lens must be kept with the diafragm closed and locked (a position Nikon's lenses have that is a rough equivalent to Pentax's A position), since aperture is controlled from body in that very basic model. The 50mm 1.8 is very good optically, bokeh a bit harsh a la Nikon, construction is a POS, but it's a bargain for the money. Regards Albano --- tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sister has a N50 (I think) with some crappy zoom lens. I want to get her a 50. - Do the older non-af 50's work on this camera? - IS the AF 50/1.8 optically ok? I know it's got pretty crappy build quality, but if the optics are ok and close-focusing is good it might be the ticket. I know this isn't exactly the place for this post, but I know some of you have experience with Nikon, and I didn't want to have to subscribe to that crappy Nikon list. tv = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
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Re: Digital and film (WAS:The flagship is coming! The flagship is coming!)
On Thursday 24 October 2002 13:41, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: That would be for voltage. Light is power, so 10 log. BR Yup, nothing to ad. -- Frits Wüthrich
Re: Marketing images through the WWW
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I wasn't thinking of selling images to a stock agency but sell images from stock for editorial use. The internet is potential powerful presentation and marketing tool. Pål having just done it myself, i have to offer that you will get very few hits on your web site by editors and writers, if any, looking for stuff. you will have to have the site there to refer people that you contact via other means. IOW, you have to have enough people see your traditional pictures first that may know someone that could use a picture of yours. i have close to 2000 pictures of outdoors and hiking in the Lower Hudson Valley on my web site. it's the largest such collection on the Internet by close to an order of magnitude. all of my editorial contacts for photos of mine have been through friends who work in organizations that are contacted because they are familiar with the area and with my photos. even with all that, most of my photos i have sold are directly to friends or friends of friends looking for gifts. the reasons why editors and writers won't search the Internet at large is because they don't know anything about people they may contact with respect to licensing, technical competence, availability, and so on. traditional means of contact are still the way you get sales. Herb
RE: Which Photo quality printer?
they hold the ink cartridge and touch the contacts on the cartridge and don't remove or access the chip at all. i don't see how more specific you can get. Herb...
Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
Hi David, On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:52:00 +1300, David A. Mann wrote: Pl Jensen wrote: Well, I'm considering a film scanner as well. Something that can scan medium format in addition to 35mm slides. A Nikon 8000 is out of the question due to its price. The guys at my local camera shop have told me that the Nikon 8000 had a few problems. At least all the ones they sold did. What kind of problems did they encounter ? Curious because I just got my 8000 ED this week, and the first few scans of 6x7 negatives (Fuji Reala 100) are great ... (And litteraly great tool, well over 200 Mb each :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
RE: The circle is complete :)
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, tom wrote: Not that I know of, but he's always finding stuff like that. He seems to be the PDML deal-meister I've already told him we need to setup a hotline so he can just directly access my funds..
Inexpensive flash recommendation
I'm looking for flash with these characteristics to use with my ZX-L: 1. TTL 2. Autofocus assist (the red spot beam from another thread) 3. Under $50 US I thought I had found such a flash with the Vivitar 728. However, when it arrived from BH, the manual noted that the autofocus assist works only with Canon and Nikon cameras. I tested the flash and found the auto focus assist does not completely not work with my Pentax, but the results were close enough to make the manual correct. (How's that for a terrible sentence.) The reason I'm looking for a cheap flash is that I've put a real flash, the Pentax AF 500 FTZ, on my Christmas wish list. Right now, I'm debating with myself on returning the Vivitar. I could probably justify its cost as a relatively light weight fill-flash for outdoor events like Mardi Gras. However, if I could find a flash that met ALL my criteria, I would return the Vivitar and buy the other one. I've looked around on the web, but haven't found anything. On eBay, someone is selling a lot of Sakar flashes that claim to have TTL and auto focus assist capbilities. I have never heard of Sakar before, so I'm suspicious even at those prices. Does anyone know any flash models that would meet my criteria? Thanks! Andrew Robinson
OT: Nikon 50's
My sister has a N50 (I think) with some crappy zoom lens. I want to get her a 50. - Do the older non-af 50's work on this camera? - IS the AF 50/1.8 optically ok? I know it's got pretty crappy build quality, but if the optics are ok and close-focusing is good it might be the ticket. I know this isn't exactly the place for this post, but I know some of you have experience with Nikon, and I didn't want to have to subscribe to that crappy Nikon list. tv
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Re: Marketing images through the WWW
Not for stock photos ,Pal, but to try and sell my horse pictures to riders i cannot get in touch with.I have a small personal page with somewere around 50-70 images on it.Every once in a while i post something on some equine BB's and i get some sales from it. Not enough to retire just yetg Dave Begin Original Message From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:49:04 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Marketing images through the WWW Have any of you with your own web pages had any success in selling images for stock use through the web? I've reading Ron Engh's Sellphoto.com and setting up my own web page seem temping as I have quite a few unique and saleable images.. For those who have experiences with this, have you actively marketed your images towards potential clients? How much work is it to make your own (well designed) web page for someone who has never done this sort of thing before? Pål End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: 2CR5
Jeff wrote: A couple of years ago I purchased a deal from Henry's, for 10 2CR5's over a five years period. At that time I owned a Z-1p a Pro70. Both cameras were sold since, but I'm still gettng these batteries regularly. I have now 2 of them and 2 more to come, but no cameras for them. If anyone in the GTA is interested in a deal, please contact me privately. Jeff Speaking of which, are there any similar deals these days (in the States)? My local stores charge quite a bit for CR2s and CR123s and I always seem to leave the 67ii on and drain the batts. -R
RE: The circle is complete :)
-Original Message- From: gfen [mailto:gfen;infotainment.org] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The circle is complete :) On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, tom wrote: You could probably put a decent darkroom together for $300. Hell, Collin B. could probably set you up for $50. ;) Wit a second, is Colin selling a darkroom? :) Not that I know of, but he's always finding stuff like that. He seems to be the PDML deal-meister tv
Re: Marketing images through the WWW
Herb wrote: stock use usually requires a huge number of your photos to make it worth their while to talk to you. do you have a large number of photos? does the place that you were reading say how many photos from an individual are considered the minimum? reason i ask is that the places i have been reading say that they want a portfolio of a couple of hundred photos and some sign of you being able to produce a couple hundred a year of similar quality. have things changed that much in the 2 or 3 years since the books i have been reading have been written? I wasn't thinking of selling images to a stock agency but sell images from stock for editorial use. The internet is potential powerful presentation and marketing tool. Pål
Re: Re: The circle is complete :)
I'm sure i will Norm.The whole class gets into it 100%. Dave Begin Original Message From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:14:54 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The circle is complete :) Great Dave, keep at it. Go for your own darkroom, you'll appreciate the flexibility it offers. Norm David Brooks wrote: dev class #5 snipped End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
James.I beleive the list was around $675-699 Can for quite a while.Jeff reported seeing them at a computer store in the GTA last month for around $500 or less.If they are coming out with a 3200,i would assume the price will dip to sellof the 2450 stocks. Dave Begin Original Message From: James Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:59:29 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price? Bruce, What sort of price can one expect to pay for an Epson 2450? I'm in Canada of course, and mainly use 35mm. James - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price? Pål, I had the same needs as you. A while back, I bought the Epson 2450 hoping that it would do the job scanning my MF stuff. The price was reasonable compared to the regular MF film scanners. My experience with it was a bit mixed. I wasn't getting the kind of quality out of the scans that I thought I should. I ended up returning it. Later JCO got the same scanner and was having much better luck with it than I did. I did some reading on the web and found that there had been some QC issues and some units were working well and some were behaving more like mine. I recently decided to give it another try and ordered another one (Epson 2450). I have been using the supplied software (Epson Twain and Silverfast SE) instead of the Vuescan that I normally use. I can say that I am having satisfactory results this time and have been able to scan and print as I had hoped. I suspect that this is the only game in town at a reasonable price point. HTH, Bruce Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 8:45:33 AM, you wrote: PJ Well, I'm considering a film scanner as well. Something that can scan medium format in addition to 35mm slides. A Nikon 8000 is out of the question due to its price. I understand there are some PJ flatbed scanners that do an acceptable job. There's an Epson something (is it called 2450?) that's generally recommended. However, I've read somewhere that this model is about to be replaced with PJ a model that scans at higher resolution. Any information and experiences with sort of things? PJ Pål End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: OT - Introducing PoorMan'sIce for Photoshop; PDML testers wanted
Dan, I might send you the initial release just to see if it breaks on pShop 6. Would that be ok? Also, do you know anyone with an ICE- or FARE-enabled scanner? I'd like to know how PMI stacks up. I doubt if it's as good, but I'm curious. I've used ONE scanner and ONE printer in my digital excursions so far. Thanks. -Lon Dan Scott wrote: On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 10:04 AM, Lon Williamson wrote: Folks, I believe I've stumbled upon a useful thing. I have created a Photoshop Action that ... blah blah blah. Sounds great. If you want a tester for Photoshop 6 and 7, let me know. Dan Scott
Re: law and image
LMAO... Norm Dr E D F Williams wrote: Chaos, I can do better than this with one of those Auto-Haiku programs that were in vogue in the MS DOS days and may still be around for all I know. But you're plonked - I'm sorry. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:16 PM Subject: Re: law and image I've attemped to establish film as a medium having a faithful connection to reality, the negative being not unlike for example a person's shadow, which has a sensical connection to the real, in contrast to digital imaging, wherein there is a separation from reality which occurs when the vestiges of the real are transformed into anonymous data. The argument keeps cropping up that since a photo can be altered it is fiction anyway and nothing more to do with the real than digital is. I am here arguing that if you use the methodology that something can be altered and therefore is nothing more than fiction than to be consistent one must apply this method to seeing itself: since optical illusions are possible and distortions are always present in seeing, then seeing must be regarded as a fiction (which is in a sense technically true, but indeed only technically so, since no one lives life disbelieving whatever he sees as a matter of course.) Rules of evidence, if they are to equate film and digital by this methodology must therefore also equate seeing as pure fiction. Since no one would argue this is so (no one would disregard all sightings of a crime as possible hallucination), I have undermined the methodology of simply saying that film is as fictional as digital because it can be altered. Chaso --- Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chaos, What on earth are you talking about? Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: Re: law and image Right, they are all fiction. It's as simple as that. Also there are optical illusions, distortions, uncertainties etc. in seeing so seeing is fiction so I wonder why having seen something occur is evidence? Of course they're all fiction, but it is my = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: The circle is complete :)
Great Dave, keep at it. Go for your own darkroom, you'll appreciate the flexibility it offers. Norm David Brooks wrote: dev class #5 snipped
Re: Re: The circle is complete :)
D'oh.Pushed to 6400. Thanks,its still here ready to mail.:) Dave Begin Original Message From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did not know Delta 6400 existed, or did you just push the 3200 to 6400? (Btw, the money order is in the mail, you should have it by now or soon) Regards, Brad Dobo Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: RE: The circle is complete :)
Actually i do have a room,wife wants it for something else.Humm may be if i send her on that cruise she always wanted for a week or so:) My Dads old Vivitar enlarger,trays etc are still at his house.I do plan to get them and set up one day. Thanks for the advice though Tom. Dave Begin Original Message From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you have a room or a closet you could clean out? tv End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: The circle is complete :)
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, tom wrote: You could probably put a decent darkroom together for $300. Hell, Collin B. could probably set you up for $50. ;) Wit a second, is Colin selling a darkroom? :)
Re: RE: A funny problem with digital
Ha.Goos one WW. Its like when i email a proof from the D1(horse shows)to some one,i set it up to be as crappy a resolution as possible.I usually get an email a bit later saying they cannot print a good copy from there computer,must be a bad file.I tell them no its a good file,you want a print ,send me the cash:) Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Which Photo quality printer?
Pal. I have the Canon BJC8200 and its successor the S800.They both produce nice 8x10's(max size)The 800 is at 1200x2400 were the 8200 is 1200x1200. They both take 6 cartridges and are about $20.00 Can each with life of about 45=48 pictures per tank. I have yet to see a demo of the 9000 but may upgrade to that or an Epson 1280 next year. Good luck in your quest. Dave Begin Original Message Canon's new S9000 is also highly recommended, but I have no experience with it. Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: Which Photo quality printer?
The knowledge necessary to do it is still a requirement. Have you actually seen the chip itself? It may have no numbers on it at all. And, then, you may not be able to buy a programmer. Perhaps it would be easier to seek a way to bypass it. Len --- From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Which Photo quality printer? Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:22:51 -0400 Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The chip reprogrammers, EPROM burners, aren't enough to get the job done by themselves. You need to know how to modify the program that is in the EPROM, and that takes a certain amount of knowledge before you attempt it. Nothing is as simple as it might seem. these are not generic chip programmers. they are specifically designed to reprogram Epson 1270 printer ink cartridges to report that they are full. Herb _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
The circle is complete :)
Hi all.Thought i'd post a photography related subject. Developing clas #5 went great,for me anyway,last night.Finally did the full circle. Shot a roll of Delta 3200 and 6400 of my friends band Oct 3 2002,developed it in Tmax for 12 min.,made a contact sheet,and had 2- 3 nice shots to choice from.Picked on close up of the guitar player,did my test strips in record time (two tries)and did 2 prints.The better of the 2 was were i did not change the fstop from the other person using the enlarger,and it worked out the best.Basically a black photo,with face,hands and partial guitar lit. (shot under low beer tent light:)) May not be a big deal to most but this is the first time in 35+ years i/v done this.Its a fun and exciting as i hoped(and everyone has said)and the instructor has liked most of what he has seen of my BW neg's. We are already wondering if it would be cheaper to sign up for the winter course,than going to a rental darkroom facility?? Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
SV: Marketing images through the WWW
Very interesting subject I actually brought this subject up on the list last year. Very few answers form the list... I found stock-photo agencies who wnated 50 or more original slides - I wouldn't have any chance to make sure they wouldn't use them without paying me one cent! But - if you are good (not just at photographing, but you must know what the market and demand is - which photographs sells, which motivs and which styles) and willing to take some risks - you can sell photographs. Some people do, for a living. I don't believe in selling photographs through your own web site. If you want to, you must make sure your site is easy to find from any major search-engine (yahoo, altavista, google etc.) Try contacting a marketing consultant. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pål Jensen [mailto:paaljensen;sensewave.com] Sendt: 23. oktober 2002 17:49 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Marketing images through the WWW Have any of you with your own web pages had any success in selling images for stock use through the web? I've reading Ron Engh's Sellphoto.com and setting up my own web page seem temping as I have quite a few unique and saleable images.. For those who have experiences with this, have you actively marketed your images towards potential clients? How much work is it to make your own (well designed) web page for someone who has never done this sort of thing before? Pål
Re: law and image
Holy shit! Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:16 PM Subject: Re: law and image I've attemped to establish film as a medium having a faithful connection to reality, the negative being not unlike for example a person's shadow, which has a sensical connection to the real, in contrast to digital imaging, wherein there is a separation from reality which occurs when the vestiges of the real are transformed into anonymous data. The argument keeps cropping up that since a photo can be altered it is fiction anyway and nothing more to do with the real than digital is. I am here arguing that if you use the methodology that something can be altered and therefore is nothing more than fiction than to be consistent one must apply this method to seeing itself: since optical illusions are possible and distortions are always present in seeing, then seeing must be regarded as a fiction (which is in a sense technically true, but indeed only technically so, since no one lives life disbelieving whatever he sees as a matter of course.) Rules of evidence, if they are to equate film and digital by this methodology must therefore also equate seeing as pure fiction. Since no one would argue this is so (no one would disregard all sightings of a crime as possible hallucination), I have undermined the methodology of simply saying that film is as fictional as digital because it can be altered. Chaso --- Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chaos, What on earth are you talking about? Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: Re: law and image Right, they are all fiction. It's as simple as that. Also there are optical illusions, distortions, uncertainties etc. in seeing so seeing is fiction so I wonder why having seen something occur is evidence? Of course they're all fiction, but it is my = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
2CR5
A couple of years ago I purchased a deal from Henry's, for 10 2CR5's over a five years period. At that time I owned a Z-1p a Pro70. Both cameras were sold since, but I'm still gettng these batteries regularly. I have now 2 of them and 2 more to come, but no cameras for them. If anyone in the GTA is interested in a deal, please contact me privately. Jeff
Re: Let's go back to September 25,2002 (WAS Re: Stuff Re: Deletion fixes all)
Give it a rest please:( Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Travel Kit
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 11:23 AM, Francis Alviar wrote: Would you be happy with the following lenses for a travel kit? 4 are primes and 1 is a zoom 28mm f/3.5 50mm f/1.4 105mm f/2.8 macro 200mm f/4 45-125mm f/4 Couple that with 2 bodies. Any lens you would leave home? Any redundancy? Thanks. Francis M. Alviar Francis, Where are you going, what are you planning on shooting? Are you planning to spend a lot of time exploring a few places, but in great detail--or do you like to travel light and adapt what you have to suit the situation you find yourself in? If I'm going sight seeing in a new city and have no idea of what will capture my interest, I'd take a wide angle and a short telephoto. But if I knew I was going spend most of my time at the zoo photographing animals, I'd take a short and long telephoto. If I'm going to visit a friend and plan to make short forays from that base, I'd take everything that could conceivably be of use and pick from that assortment those lenses which would best support my itinerary . Dan scott
Re: law and image
Well if you've seen any images out of Bali in the last ten days of so the teams of evidence gathering personel all seem to have digicams in hand, I haven't seen a film camera yet. Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV programmes such as CSI, Silent Witness, Dalziel Pascoe, etc as my flipping family seem to be then all you tend to see is film cameras being used by forensics/pathologists. Of course they're all fiction, but it is my understanding as of this moment that in a UK court of law film is preferred. Cotty, care to comment from the (digital) TV news point of view?? I'll ask someone who will know and get back... Cot Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
Re: A funny problem with digital
Unless the sender made the original with a web-capable only camera with 640 by 400 resolution, (or a more capable camera set to 640 by 400), simply downloaded and sent it. Then there is no full res file or more properly the file the customer has is the full res file. At 11:59 PM 10/24/2002 +1000, you wrote: On 24 Oct 2002 at 7:43, William Robb wrote: This doesn't help with the original problem, which is a point and shoot customer base that wants to treat digital photography the same way as regular photography. Well not entirely, from recollection your customer brought in a digital image that had been received via email. Presumably it was shot by someone with a digital camera and enough knowledge to download/resize/email your client a cute little resized web pic. Problem is that your customer wanted the cute little web pic turned into a real photo, and the originator of the shot didn't send instructions to the recipient stating that if the recipient wanted to make a real print that the originator would send a suitable file. Quite a few points of failure in that particular case, I wouldn't guess that it'd be too common an event? A full res file from most any digital camera would have produced a 10x8 print that you could pretty well assume that the customer would have been happy with? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Travel Kit
Would you be happy with the following lenses for a travel kit? 4 are primes and 1 is a zoom 28mm f/3.5 50mm f/1.4 105mm f/2.8 macro 200mm f/4 45-125mm f/4 Couple that with 2 bodies. Any lens you would leave home? Any redundancy? Thanks. Francis M. Alviar __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com
what's wrong with the list?
The list archive is not updated. I only get digests but it seems that the contents are all from a Chaso deChaso. Weird. Is the list broken again? Francis M. Alviar __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
RE: Travel Kit
I'd leave the zoom at home (too heavy, not so useful focal range, and despite the fact that it's said to be very good lens, it's a zoom and you've got all the focal lenghts you really need in the primes you list), and would put the 50mm on one body and the 105mm on the other. Hope this sentence is lear :) Regards, Lukasz -Original Message- From: Francis Alviar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:23 PM To: Pentax Discuss List Subject: Travel Kit Would you be happy with the following lenses for a travel kit? 4 are primes and 1 is a zoom 28mm f/3.5 50mm f/1.4 105mm f/2.8 macro 200mm f/4 45-125mm f/4 Couple that with 2 bodies. Any lens you would leave home? Any redundancy? Thanks. Francis M. Alviar __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com
RE: Travel Kit
-Original Message- From: Francis Alviar [mailto:alviar629030;yahoo.com] Would you be happy with the following lenses for a travel kit? 4 are primes and 1 is a zoom 28mm f/3.5 50mm f/1.4 105mm f/2.8 macro 200mm f/4 45-125mm f/4 Couple that with 2 bodies. Any lens you would leave home? Any redundancy? Um, this completely depends on what and how you like to shoot, and what you're comfortable carrying. You'll have a better idea of what you like once you've done it a couple of times. Could *you* leave any of these at home? Will you be travelling alone? Is the primary purpose photography, or travel? My travel kit consists of the 20-35/4 and 77/1.8 right now. I might substitute the 100/3.5 macro for the 77 if I think I'll be doing some landscape stuff. The 43 might make it in there if it's an urban trip. I think a camera would be nice to bring as well. tv
Re: Which Photo quality printer?
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I should've mentioned that I confirmed this number, however, in multiple places.. the Frontier systems do in fact print at 300dpi. Evidently, teh Frontier will just re-sample images at higher dpi down to 300. Still not sure if its better to give them a 1200 dpi image, or resize myself.. -shrug- Also, evidently, a Light Jet will also print out at 300 dpi. it should be fine since each of the 300 dots is a full range of colors, unlike inkjet printers that have much high resolution but a fixed range of colors at each dot. Herb
Re[2]: Which Photo quality printer?
gfen, The Agfa DLabs print at 400 DPI. Bruce Thursday, October 24, 2002, 7:12:50 AM, you wrote: g On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, gfen wrote: I did, and I was given the answer of 300 DPI, which to me just seems so very low.. Then again, despite being a raging computer geek (reformed), I g I should've mentioned that I confirmed this number, however, in multiple g places.. the Frontier systems do in fact print at 300dpi. g Evidently, teh Frontier will just re-sample images at higher dpi down to g 300. Still not sure if its better to give them a 1200 dpi image, or resize g myself.. -shrug- Also, evidently, a Light Jet will also print out at 300 g dpi.
Re: Which Photo quality printer?
TI has a new 6 or 7 ink printer out: The 5550, I believe. As I recall, it does 6x4 borderless, and will print up to 8x10. About $150, and supposedly in the Epson/Canon quality class. And I don't believe the carts are chipped. -Lon
1 day to go: wide-angle zoom poll
Yes, 1 day to go. So far, I have collected 14 replies. These polls will end tomorrow, so please send your votes now 1.) Imagine that you urgently need a zoom which covers the wide-angle range for your k-mount camera. Imagine further, that you have more than enough money to spend on such a zoom. Now imagine, that you enter a shop which has plenty of new and used Pentax glass. What SMC Pentax zoom would pick to cover the wide-angle range? F17-28/3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye FA20-35/f4 AL M24-35-/f3.5 M24-50/f4 A24-50/f4 F24-50/f4 FA24-90/f3.5-4.5 IFAL K28-50/f3.5-4.5 M28-50/f3.5-4.5 FA*28-70/f2.8 AL FA28-70/f4 AL A28-80/f3.5-4.5 F28-80/f3.5-4.5 FA28-80/f3.5-4.7 FA28-80/f3.5-5.6 AL FA28-105/f3.2-4.5 IFAL FA28-105/f4-5.6 FA28-105/f4-5.6 IF A28-135/f4 FA28-200/f3.8-5.6 ALIF Please name up to 3 choices (1st, 2nd, and 3rd) among the listed lenses. 2.) What 3rd party zoom lenses covering the wide-angle range would you consider good alternatives? Please name up to 3 3rd party zooms. So far the following 3rd party lenses have been voted for: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 Sigma EX 17-35 2.8 Sigma EX 17-35 2.8-4.0 Tamron SP 24-48 Vivitar Series 1 24-48/f3.8 Tokina RMC 4/25-50 3.) If you were dreaming, what would be your ideal (but realistic) SMC Pentax Zoom lens for k-mount, covering the wide-angle range? So far the following lenses have been suggested: 12-24mm F4 (or even better F2.8) rectiliear. 15-30/f4 IFAL 17-35 recilinear FA*17-51/f4 AL FA18-45/f3.5-4.0 FA*18-100/f4.0 IFAL A*20-35/f2 FA20-35/f2.8 AL 24-90/f2.8 FA24-105/3.5-4.5 Enjoy these polls, and thanks in advance for contributing! Arnold
Catax or Pensio ?
Casio presents the QV-R3 and QV-R43 and 4 Mp equipped of zooms 3x PENTAX !! After technical card reading, all is there the same, 11Mb internal memory , watch calendar understood the zoom to the different formats of files. Two differences however: - the wheel at the rear of the case instead of the over - more important, the type of memory card: at Pentax = Compact Flash and at Casio = SD Then, copy, subcontract, collaboration with Pentax photo part and Casio electronic ??? Michel
Re: Which Photo quality printer?
gfen wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Dan Scott wrote: to add a tiny smidgen of unsharp masking to get the smaller rez image What exactly does unsharp mask accomplish? the name is unfortunate and is derived from true darkroom lingo dealing with a negative sandwich. Unsharp mask increases contrast on edges by lightening the light side and darkening the dark side. Most people use it to increase apparent image sharpness. It's drawback is that it sharpens noise and grain as well as edges. PMI (PoorMan'sIce) will include a few intelligent edge sharpening actions borrowed from the ideas of others. For selective sharpening, Andrew Rodney and a few of the contributors to Lumninous Landscape have a few actions that work well in some cases. -Lon
Re: OT - Introducing PoorMan'sIce for Photoshop; PDML testers wanted
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 10:04 AM, Lon Williamson wrote: Folks, I believe I've stumbled upon a useful thing. I have created a Photoshop Action that, on a reasonable percentage of scans thrown at it, reduced spotting time considerably. The action can remove most spots from negative scans semi-automatically without - repeat: WITHOUT - affecting sharpness or contrast. It is particularly handy when thrown at negative film developed at ham-handed 1 hour labs. As written, it will NOT effectively spot chromes, where dust manifests as dark abberations. I may work on a chrome version later. By semiautomatically, I mean that there are user-intervention steps (adjusting levels, applying blur, and choosing values for a few dustscratch filters). There are currently 78 steps in the action and user intervention is required on 7 steps. Only two of these steps require you to do some careful tweaking which may take 30 seconds or so, the other 5 steps take me less than 5 seconds each. I have found myself spending typically 30 minutes to over an hour retouching by hand using the classic history-brush-and- scratch-filter and even more classic clone tool approach on the 50MB 8-bit TIF files my scanner cranks out. It does not have FARE or ICE. With PMI (PoorMan'sIce), my spotting time can be as little as 10 minutes to as much as 30 minutes. PMI spotting typically holds up well against 8x10 enlargements printed on a modern inkjet photo-printer. PMI works well on an eTower 333Mz machine with 256MB RAM. It's considerably slower on a Fujitsu 400MHz laptop with 192MB. It's probably workable, with 50MB TIFs, on a machine with 128MB, and would no doubt fly on a machine with 512 or more MB and a processor in the Gigahertz speed range. I intend to release it as freeware soon, but want testers and feedback before so doing. I hope that my testers will come ONLY from PDML; and your names will be listed in the final documentation. I will email all interested testers the action and preliminary documentation in ZIP format - should be around a megabyet. The action was developed in PhotoShop 5 (my latest version), and I tested a very early PIM version against Photoshop 6 which did NOT fare well (Photoshop 6 does not, curiously enough, support all actions that Photoshop 5 does). I may have found a work around, but have not tested the current PMI against Photoshop 6 or 7. So to be safe, if you want to examine PMI, you should - at least for now - have Photoshop 5 laying around somewhere. I am confident that I can create a final version that supports everything from Photoshop 4 to Photoshop 7, probably with a distinct action for each version of Photoshop. Anyone interested please respond to me via email with title PMI Tester - Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds great. If you want a tester for Photoshop 6 and 7, let me know. Dan Scott
Re: Which Photo quality printer?
gfen wrote: snip The other thing I'm having difficulty getting my head around is WHERE and HOW I should size images and do the workflow.. I've been doing my best to research it out on photo.net snip I too, have researched photo.net, and I don't think it's the best resource. Two places that can get you going towards your own workflow are Andrew Rodney's Digital Dog and Luminous Landscape. Search for these with Google; both have several good articles. -Lon
Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it definitely results in murder. --- Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never hurt YOU, but... Steve Desjardins wrote: I'm really sorry if we offended you - please don't hurt me . . . . = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: OT - Introducing PoorMan'sIce for Photoshop; PDML testers wanted
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I remember a couple people on the list have mentioned owning Nikon scanners, and one or two with the Minoltas that support ICE--but I'm drawing a blank on names right now. i have a Coolscan 4000ED. you can send me the action to try. i use Photoshop 7. Herb
Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
I think the light in my refrigerator stays on after I shut the door. Chaso DeChaso wrote: Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it definitely results in murder. --- Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never hurt YOU, but... Steve Desjardins wrote: I'm really sorry if we offended you - please don't hurt me . . . .
Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
Was Daniel or someone else talking about refrigerator lights earlier? --- Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the light in my refrigerator stays on after I shut the door. Chaso DeChaso wrote: Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it definitely results in murder. --- Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never hurt YOU, but... Steve Desjardins wrote: I'm really sorry if we offended you - please don't hurt me . . . . = Chaso DeChaso Less is more cheap - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Matjaz Roman PDML-ers
It was a lovely evening indeed. Great hosts, great food, variety of wine, even first LX I had in my hands. We even invented new language. Espano- english was a real fun to talk. Enjoyable time. Thanks, guys and gals. Matjaz The PDML Roman bunch met fellow Matjaz from Slovenia during his brief staying here in the Eternal City. The quorum was very high: 75 %, i.e. three out of four, as Michele was out of Rome. Not just a round table about Pentax gear, rather a dining table. http://space.tin.it/arte/flamin/cena2.jpg (from left: Fabio, Laura, Matjaz, Flavio). Well, nice atmosphere, interesting conversation in English and Spanish, roman foodstuffs, sicilian wine, spirits from several European lands. which seemed to lower our self-control, as we eventually indulged ourselves in experiencing odd couplings, like this: http://space.tin.it/arte/flamin/mzs_tak.jpg ! Ciao Fabio
