Re: Pentax DSLR
Assuming that Pentax eventually sells a DSLR with APS sized sensor, what prime lens would you use on it for your fast normal lens? And the old K 2.8/30mm = 2.8/45mm (the best !) Except that, for many of us, an f/2.8 lens might not really qualify as a fast normal lens. Fred
Re: PDML #5 Group Photo
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, tom wrote: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/PDML5.jpg Courtesy of a former PDMLer and his D100. Notice that Cesar is handling the faux snakeskin boots. Not to me ntion the wild-eyed look he's giving them... -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: Tradeoffs: old vs. new, FA77/1.8 vs. K85/1.8
Sell a kid? Where? They don't let you sell things like kids or livers on ebay. If anyone would like to purchase a teenage male in fair to good condition, please contact me off line. BR : on 2/26/03 6:14 AM, Paul Franklin Stregevsky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stan wrote: Would you sell the one to get the other? Anytime I sell a lens that was very hard to find, I get a sick feeling in my stomach even before it's gone. Don't you have a dog, a cat, or a kid you might sell instead? :)
Re: Tradeoffs: old vs. new, FA77/1.8 vs. K85/1.8
Sorry to hear you sold your K 85/1.8. Thanks for your condolences, Jose. sniff (g) Well, I'll somehow manege to get by with my A* 85/1.4... (g) (And, if desired, I can still use the FA* 85/1,4, which is now my wife's lens, and I'm still having some fun with the Kenko 85/2.5 Soft, too.) And, if a K 85/1.8 ever fell into my hands again, I probably would keep it - g. I believe if my K 85/1.8 was ever sold, it would be by my descendants and most likely against my will... Well, I've remarked previously here on the PDML that I will only give up the A* 85/1.4 when it is pried from my cold, dead fingers... (g) It is just too difficult to find. Yes. And, it certainly is worth finding. I've tried a number of 85mm lenses, and the K 85/1.8 is my second favorite (out of almost ten 85's that I've had the pleasure of using). When I do finally purchase an autofocus camera, I will then save up for a FA 77/1.8, FA 43/1.9, FA 31/1.8, and the new rumored Limited telephoto. Well, there's a lot to be said for continuing to use good manual focus lenses on good autofocus bodies (using the focus confirmation feature, or sometimes even the trap focus feature, although I have not tried that just yet). And, some of the autofocus lenses do pretty well on manual focus bodies, too. Your K 85/1,8 will hopefully see a lot of action for a long time into the future... Fred
Re: no show for D-SLR..... yet
Rob wrote: Sorry to sound just a little negative but does this really surprise you? Well, they have been saying this since last fall so it is hardly surprising. Pål
Re: Just thinking...
Artur wrote: I just think to myself... Is it justified to expect Pentax to show more new stuff at the PMA? Even the DSLR? I mean Pentax has already presented a new SLR, 2 new lenses and 2 DPS - that's quite a lot, isn't it?. If they have new stuff that is ready to be introduced, they'd rather do it at the consecutive big shows, just to maintain the market's interest. I think it wouldn't be wise to hit the market with all the new stuff at once... Regards Artur --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Well, they have promised to show the DSLR at mid March in Japan and it is therefore very very likely that they will show it on PMA as well. Otherwise, I suspect that they will reserve some of this years new products for later. Pål
Nice story on Margaret Bourke-White on NPR this morning
Well, as the subject line says, there was a nice story on Margaret Bourke-White on NPR's (that's National Public Radio for those outside the U.S.) Morning Edition program this morning. If you're on the West coast I suppose there's still time to tune in and hear it. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: 85/1.8 v. 85/2 for portrait - EX: Tradeoffs: old vs. new, FA77/1.8 vs. K85/1.8
Now I want a portrait lens. (only for portrait) Would people generally agree that the 85/2 would be superior to the 85/1.8 for purely portrait purposes? That would save me quite a bit of money... Whoa! Absolutely not! The M 85/2 (in my opinion) is a surprisingly good little portrait lens, and should be a Consumer Digest Best Buy (g) in the world of relatively scarce Pentax 85mm lenses. However, the K 85/1.8 is the superior lens of the two, in my opinion (I'd place the K 85/1.8 as second to only the A* 85/1.4 in my own opinionated 85mm list). Fred
Re: Superior Pentax
Hi Boris, on 09 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list: If you decide to sell it anyway, don't forget to give me a call, that is send an e-mail... If you are still interested in my 28-70/4.0 then you can have it. I've decided to sell it as I prefer my 28-105 Powerzoom. I have also a SMC FA 28-105/4-5.6 (without Powerzoom) and a SMC A 25-105/2.5 for sale. And a FB1+FC-1 Finder for the LX. You can see these items here: www.mycroft.de/sale.html I ask for 75,- Euro for the 28-70. I can accept money transfers to my bank account or Paypal. You will have to add a small fee for Paypal and the shipping costs (depending on where you are living ca. 30-40 Euro). Shipping two or three lenses won't be more expensive, so maybe you or a friend of yours can make use of one... Please tell me if you want the lens or not as I will put it on eBay otherwise. Regards, Heiko (Germany)
Re: Bodies: K2 vs. KX vs. LX
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replying late to this! Sorry, but... I'm likely going to be doing some extreme macro photography this summer (in the 1X to 4X range), so I've been seriously considering getting a body that offers MLU. Hence my interest in a classic body that offers MLU. LX is definitely the best, and if money were no object for me I'd just shell out five or six C-notes and be done with it. Alas, I'm poor. Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Page lists the KX and K2 as also offering MLU. What's worrying is that they're somewhat old bodies (all 25+ years old by now). The K2 also is an electronic camera, which makes me wonder how likely it is that the circuit board will suddenly up and quit (and if it does, how likely it is to be unrepairable). In my experience, the electronics of the KX are much less reliable than those of the K2. I've seen *lots* of KX's with dead meter electronics but never a K2 with dead electronics. I also just plain have a preference for a mechanical-shutter camera, though I'll compromise on that if it means getting a good body with MLU for significantly less. I notice Adorama's used department has a several K2 bodies listed for under $150. A cursory search hasn't turned up any KX bodies for sale, I don't think the K2 sold better than the less expensive KX - or if it did it was only by a small margin. My suspicion is that the K2 has proven more durable over time (metal blade shutter, more reliable electronics) and so there are fewer KX's left on the market. So, should I even consider a K2 or KX? Is there anything in particular to watch out for with these bodies? Or should I just forget about it and spring for an LX? I think you should *consider* both but lean toward the K2 in terms of reliability. Personally, I'd *love* to get myself a KX in good condition, but I'd feel I had to regard it as a collector's item, just due to my experiences so far. (I've had several K2's and found them very reliable). If you see a KX on eBay being sold as is and the seller claims he can't test the meter because he doesn't have a battery RUN AWAY! ;-) The K2 has a better viewfinder, faster flash sync (1/125) and, of course, auto exposure. The KX reputedly has less shutter vibration, but I've found the K2 works very well indeed with the mirror locked up. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Tradeoffs: old vs. new, FA77/1.8 vs. K85/1.8
Yeah, but what about those of us who use lenses to take photos, rather than to feel? They use Canon. :)) Good one... OK. The action of the autofocus is extremely loose. So any single bad move can bring it out of focus. (for more practical souls :)) L
*ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Bird Lenses [was Sigma 300-800mm]
Well stated John. I might add that the 600 is THE lens for places such as Denali National Park where much wild life is visible from the (only) road. After several visits to Denali without a 600, I purchased one and used it, (many times with the 1.4L convertor), on my last visit to the park. It became my most used lens there. Using a 600 without a good sturdy support system and gimballed head is generally a waste of film. On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:29:28 -0800 (PST), John Mustarde wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:24:20 -0500, you wrote: You really only need a 600/4 and 1.4x TC for birdies. A subject of interest to me, so comments interspersed. A 600/4 monster is pretty useless for many birdy situations. It's great on a tripod for shooting birds that are not moving around much and who will sit still long enough for you to set up, assuming that you can get your tripod set up on suitable ground. (I'm thinking of marsh birds or shore birds, perhaps.) Weight is the one real drawback to the big lenses, which include the 400/2.8, 250-600/5.6, and 600/4. Smaller lenses such as 300/2.8. 600/5.6, and even a Nikon 500/4 are not heavy enough to make weight a serious limiting factor. I've never experienced any difficulty shooting marsh or shore birds - but then I don't take the 600 into the water, and often don't even set up a tripod. I leave carrying such a lens over water to the more adventurous, or those to whom sinking an expensive lens might be part of the cost of doing business. However, the lens is not very portable, and it certainly isn't hand-holdable (I can just about hand-hold an A* 600/5.6 in bright light conditions with 400 ASA film). Even a sturdy monopod would be taxed by a 600/4 cannon (that's with a double-n - g). If you have to walk very far to get to the birdies you'd better buy an army-surplus caisson to help transport it, but forget it if the terrain is rough. If anyone is carrying a big lens very far to get bird photos, they better be backpacking to a blind, or some other spot already scouted. It's no secret that birds flee from human contact. The birds circle of fear is proportional to the amount of regular human contact they have. In remote locations, there won't be a bird within twenty yards of a human crashing through the underbrush. Then, I don't picture using such a lens on pelagic birds from a boat. And, I can't picture traipsing through dense woods to shoot birds in the puckerbrush, and thickets, either. (Good luck to you if a bird lands less than 5 meters - about 16.5 feet - away from you.) In my part of the birding world (Texas and Florida for awhile, now Arizona) birds are abundant at the edge of clearings - not in dense woods. Owls and some woodpeckers like the interior a little, but usually dense woods are not nearly as good a place to go birding as the scrubby transition area between woods and field. The best thicket birding is from the car, parked on the shoulder of a less-traveled road, often right in the city at the edge of a development. This is where the really big glass shines - shooting from a blind, and a car is an excellent blind. The use of a car reduces the drawback of lens weight, and the minimum focus distance seldom comes into play. If it does, a 25mm Kenko AF extension tube helps a lot. Mind you, this is really not any criticism of the design or the optical properties of the F* or FA* 600/4 lenses, but is just a devil's advocate rebuttal to the concept that you really only need a 600/4 and 1.4x TC for birdies. It is probably a great lens for its purposes, but its purposes don't cover a lot of good birding situations. A lot of good bird photography can be done without a 600/4 and 1.4x TC. Fred My comment about needing a 600/4 and TC is a tongue-in-cheek comment I've made many times in the past. I hold to it a little, but it's not all that defensible. The 600/4 is very heavy, very expensive, and requires a host of expensive accessories. One has to plan to use it - it is not the lens to keep in the trunk for spur-of-the-moment outings. And hand-holding is out of the question except for an occasional grunt-and-hope shot. I've used my 600/4 in many modes, from tripod setup at a blind, to a walk-around lens on a monopod, to a pack-in situation. I've carried it on the passenger seat of the car, hooked to a short monopod, ready to point through the car window. I've even shot it from flat on my back, holding it above my face shooting directly up into a tree. I've lugged it as much as eight miles in one day (that was a very long day), but normally I limit myself to a two mile round trip. But all that weight is a lot easier on the younger crowd. Now that I am nearer to a hundred than not, I'm heeding the siren call of digital and its 1.5x FOV crop. So I carry a fairly light 300/4 and 1.4x TC, on a monopod,
Pentaprism and hyper-program on *ist-D
Dear all, We can find pentaprism and hyper-program on *ist-D. Too good to be true! Cheers! Henry Chu 26/2/2003 _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: kodak 3600 scanner
Kodak is no longer supporting the scanners used for the Photo CD. Repairs must be handled by the local operators. On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:39:49 -0800 (PST), Pat White wrote: The Picture CD gives 4-meg files, which are good for about 5x7s at best. The PhotoCD, however, gives 18-meg files, as well as a choice of 4 other resolutions for every image. The 18-meg file gives a resolution of 2048 x 3072 pixels, which makes a decent 8x10. In Canada, Kodak charges 65 cents per image, as well as around $17 for the CD. Supposedly, the CD will hold up to 100 images, but they once put an extra roll on one of my CDs, and it works fine with 136 images on it. You can keep sending the PhotoCD back until it's full, but the Picture CD only holds 28 pictures or so . Pat White Ken Waller PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
The flood gates open....
Just on the small chance this hasn't been posted to the group yet... www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR-IST_uk.html Tom
RE: Nice story on Margaret Bourke-White on NPR this morning
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, as the subject line says, there was a nice story on Margaret Bourke-White on NPR's (that's National Public Radio for those outside the U.S.) Morning Edition program this morning. If you're on the West coast I suppose there's still time to tune in and hear it. Or you can listen online: http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1175402.html It might not actually be available yet. I saw this exhibit a couple of weeks ago. It was ok. tv
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never been that glad to be proved wrong! After the first look: - the picture is still that of the film *ist; - the viewfinder looks promising: 0.95x and 95% coverage, still with the dreaded superimposed AF sensors; - it is compatible with the K lenses! [there go two of my main objections...] - hyper-manual, never mentioned for *ist ! Servus, Alin Iren wrote: IHC The news finally come: IHC http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR-IST_uk.html
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 15:34 Europe/Warsaw, Iren Henry Chu wrote: The news finally come: http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR- IST_uk.html Wow! Have you seen that? Viewfinder 0.95x and 95% coverage! And it is such a small compared to other DSLRs. And it is compatible with K lenses! And it has hyper-program and hyper-manual (back to Z-series convenience!) Impressive work! Now, let's wait for real photos and real tests :-) Kudos to Pentax! Pozdrowienia Sylwek
*ist: classic user interface
The user interface differs from the film *ist: it sports two dials dedicated for speed and aperture. Add hyper manual and it's obvious this camera is *not* entry-level, it's aimed straight to enthusiasts. Servus, Alin
The new wide angle zoom lens
Dear all, According to letsgodigital.nl, the new wide angle zoom lens when mounting on the D-SLR is a 28-54mm zoom. Translating to 135 format, it is only a 18.7-36mm zoom, which is very similar to the existing FA20-35/4AL. Therefore, there are two possibilities for the new lens: it is either an ultra cheap FAJ plastic toy with variable aperture of around f3.5-5.6, or it is a luxury FA* f2.8 constant aperture lens. Just my guess only. Regards, Henry Chu 26/2/2003 26/2 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never been that glad to be proved wrong! After the first look: - the picture is still that of the film *ist; - the viewfinder looks promising: 0.95x and 95% coverage, Of course, that's because it only has to cover the smaller area exposed by the sensor, as opposed to the 24 x 36 area exposed in the film version. still with the dreaded superimposed AF sensors; I agree, but that's probably the best solution when you start to get lots of AF sensors (which seems to be what the market is demanding) - it is compatible with the K lenses! And they *specifically* mention K, M, screw-mount and 645 and 67 lenses! (They gotta be monitoring the list! HAR!) They do mention that there are limitations when using adaptors, but I assume that means no AF and stop-down metering when using screw-mount, 645 and 67 lenses. I'll let the inevitable pessimist contingent speculate otherwise ;-) [there go two of my main objections...] - hyper-manual, never mentioned for *ist ! I expect hyper manual is on the film *ist, just because the control electronics are so similar, but the digital camera apparently has a pentaprism, rather than the penta-mirror of the film camera. Also note that the new wide angle being introduced is specifically described as being suitable for film cameras (it's not limited to the frame size of the DSLR). 28-54 equivalent means it'll be about 18mm to 35mm actual focal length. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Small indeed, I just measured, and this is very close to the dimensions of my MZ-3 (same as MZ-5n I guess)! Regards, JvW On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:00:50 +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR- IST_uk.html Wow! Have you seen that? Viewfinder 0.95x and 95% coverage! And it is such a small compared to other DSLRs. And it is compatible with K lenses! And it has hyper-program and hyper-manual (back to Z-series convenience!) Impressive work! Now, let's wait for real photos and real tests :-) Kudos to Pentax! -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
And it's HERE!
And It's HERE! http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR-IST_uk. html
RE: And it's HERE!
Cool.. June/July 2003 launch.. now the big question: Price Price Price Price Price Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:23:54 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Andit's HERE! And It's HERE! http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR-IST_uk. html mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Alin, on 26 Feb 03 you wrote in pentax.list: - the viewfinder looks promising: 0.95x and 95% coverage, still with the dreaded superimposed AF sensors; - it is compatible with the K lenses! These features are impressing! There is no actual analog SLR with a comparable viewfinder (afair). This alone makes the *istD superior to many cameras. And now the entry-level-*ist makes sense... Let's hope that price, availability and image quality will be as convincing. Regards, Heiko
RE: The new wide angle zoom lens
The already stated an FAJ 18-35 via our spies. I really need something more than this, but the DSLR looks fantastic to me! Only thing I am not sure about is the use of CCD rather than CMOS...? -Original Message- From: Iren Henry Chu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 15:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The new wide angle zoom lens Dear all, According to letsgodigital.nl, the new wide angle zoom lens when mounting on the D-SLR is a 28-54mm zoom. Translating to 135 format, it is only a 18.7-36mm zoom, which is very similar to the existing FA20-35/4AL. Therefore, there are two possibilities for the new lens: it is either an ultra cheap FAJ plastic toy with variable aperture of around f3.5-5.6, or it is a luxury FA* f2.8 constant aperture lens. Just my guess only. Regards, Henry Chu 26/2/2003 26/2 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From imaging resource: No pictures are currently available, but the camera is to be just 7mm wider and 11mm higher then Pentax's just-announced *ist film SLR - and actually 4mm less deep than that camera. (We have a picture of the film camera, but since there is no way to know if it looks anything like the *ist D, we are not posting that picture to avoid causing confusion). Canon's EOS D60 is 21mm wider, 12mm higher and 15mm thicker; the Nikon D100 is 15mm wider, 21mm higher and 21mm thicker; Fuji's FinePix S2 Pro is 13mm wider, a considerable 37mm higher and 19mm thicker. The *ist D will weigh just 510 grams without batteries. Small size is not the *ist D's only qualification though. The camera features an 11-point autofocus sensor, shutter speeds to 1/4000 second, flash-sync at 1/150 second, a 2.7 frames per second burst capability, CompactFlash Type-I / II storage compatible with Microdrives, a 1.8 LCD display and a lot more besides. Power comes from 4 AA batteries or 2 CR-V3 Lithium Ion batteries. Advanced users will be pleased to find a RAW mode (with decoding software included in the bundle), whilst both JPEG and TIFF are also available. Connectivity will be USB 1.1, the same as the EOS D60 and Nikon D100 currently use. -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 15:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D!!! On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 15:34 Europe/Warsaw, Iren Henry Chu wrote: The news finally come: http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PM A-2003/news/pentax/SLR- IST_uk.html Wow! Have you seen that? Viewfinder 0.95x and 95% coverage! And it is such a small compared to other DSLRs. And it is compatible with K lenses! And it has hyper-program and hyper-manual (back to Z-series convenience!) Impressive work! Now, let's wait for real photos and real tests :-) Kudos to Pentax! Pozdrowienia Sylwek
RE: The new wide angle zoom lens
From Pentax press release: Along with the *ist D, PENTAX announces an exciting wide angle lens for 35mm AF SLR cameras, the smc PENTAX-FA J Zoom 18-35mm F4-5.6 AL. -Original Message- From: Iren Henry Chu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 15:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The new wide angle zoom lens Dear all, According to letsgodigital.nl, the new wide angle zoom lens when mounting on the D-SLR is a 28-54mm zoom. Translating to 135 format, it is only a 18.7-36mm zoom, which is very similar to the existing FA20-35/4AL. Therefore, there are two possibilities for the new lens: it is either an ultra cheap FAJ plastic toy with variable aperture of around f3.5-5.6, or it is a luxury FA* f2.8 constant aperture lens. Just my guess only. Regards, Henry Chu 26/2/2003 26/2 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The *ist D will officially launch in July 2003. Other major *ist D features New 16-segment metering system achieves more accurate exposure New 11-point AF sensor (SAFOX VIII) realizes enhanced focusing Fast 1/4000 sec. shutter speed and high-speed flash sync at 1/150 sec. Continuous shooting at approx. 2.7 fps 2-dial system separates aperture and shutter speed settings With individual dials for shutter and aperture selection, Hyper program makes it easy to switch between Shutter-Priority AE and Aperture-Priority AE. Hyper manual let you achieve the proper exposure with simple button operation. Custom function allows functionality to be tuned to satisfy user preferences Noise reduction function activates for long exposures Compatible with MicroDrive(tm) and CompactFlash(tm) Type I/II Takes four AA batteries or two CR-V3 lithium-ion batteries PC-based camera control and easy data transmission with USB 1.1 compatibility 1.8 inch, 118,000-pixel LCD monitor for easy, high-precision viewing Convenient playback functions, such as nine image- and 12X magnification-display Choice of JPEG, TIFF and RAW recording formats Comes complete with software compatible with RAW format data Special battery grip (availability to coincide with *ist D) -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 15:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D!!! On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 15:34 Europe/Warsaw, Iren Henry Chu wrote: The news finally come: http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PM A-2003/news/pentax/SLR- IST_uk.html Wow! Have you seen that? Viewfinder 0.95x and 95% coverage! And it is such a small compared to other DSLRs. And it is compatible with K lenses! And it has hyper-program and hyper-manual (back to Z-series convenience!) Impressive work! Now, let's wait for real photos and real tests :-) Kudos to Pentax! Pozdrowienia Sylwek
Re: The new wide angle zoom lens
Iren Henry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to letsgodigital.nl, the new wide angle zoom lens when mounting on the D-SLR is a 28-54mm zoom. Translating to 135 format, it is only a 18.7-36mm zoom, which is very similar to the existing FA20-35/4AL. Therefore, there are two possibilities for the new lens: it is either an ultra cheap FAJ plastic toy with variable aperture of around f3.5-5.6, or it is a luxury FA* f2.8 constant aperture lens. I doubt it's an FAJ lens. They've been lacking something in this category for a long time and they need to be able to sell it to as many Pentax users as possible. I'd settle for a regular FA lens with a variable f2.8-4.0 aperture as long as the optical quality is good. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
On *ist D in German
http://www.pentax.ch/index.php?id=398type=1 Unfortunately - still no photos... Regards Sylwek
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay. I WANT ONE! My mouth is almost watering. Maybe I won't wait a year to go digital. (Start saving up the pennies now.) Two questions based on what we know now. What IS hyper manual? I presume that's manual somehow, but the term is new to me. How come they won't be ready until summer? Do they preview these things before a manufacturing plant is ready to produce them? If so, are there sometimes changes between the previewed item and the final results that come out the plant later? Sigh. Saving my pennies to reach the price will take me longer than when it comes to market anyway. Doe aka Marnie :-)
RE: PDML #5 Group Photo
Assistant #7. -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.thomasvanveen.com 301-758-3085 -Original Message- From: Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PDML #5 Group Photo #7...? Cheers Shaun tom wrote: -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, we know Cesar's the one with the boot fetish (or is it a snakeskin fetish?) g We need other names, though... http://www.bigdayphoto.com/PDML5.jpg Left to Right: Cesar, Glenn, Me, Christian, Stephen, Geoff #7 is the horizontal one. That was her idea. tv . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And depreview: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0302/03022602pentaxistd.asp
Re: It's HERE!
More on the DSLR-- I haven't gotten a Digest this morning so I'm assuming I'm incommunicado from the PDML again, really piss-poor timing for THAT. http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_02262003_istD_pr.html
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Iren Henry Chu wrote: http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR-IST_uk.html That's the same *Ist picture as before, though, right? It can't really be that small compared to the hulking monsters from Canon and Nikon. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: *ist: classic user interface
Sign me up! I gotta credit card around here somewhere. Christian On Wednesday 26 February 2003 10:02, Alin Flaider wrote: The user interface differs from the film *ist: it sports two dials dedicated for speed and aperture. Add hyper manual and it's obvious this camera is *not* entry-level, it's aimed straight to enthusiasts. Servus, Alin
RE: Digital *ist news
Anyone still want to sell their 31,43,77mm limiteds :D I'll buy it and stick it on this lil beast in July :D __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: And it's HERE!
Knowing Pentax it's will be on the $1200 or lower side, and compete with those sony/minolta/oly/canon 4-56 MP digi PS cams. --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David wrote: Price Price Price Price Price The old rumor, whose reliability is completely unknown, says $1600. $1300 street price. What is certain is that it is agressively priced. Pål __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Semi-OT: Pan Techniques
Sounds like all that was happening is that the car was turning at the time of the shot. If you pan the shot trying to keep the driver's helmet in the same place, the front and rear of the car will change perspective during the turn, and be blurry. Rather a neat effect, I should try it next time I'm at the racetrack. BTW, Brian Redman is one hell of a nice guy. -Mat Stephen Moore wrote: (Warning: motor racing content -- no *ist ;-) Has anyone seen Road Track for March? Their salon feature is a Ferrari 312PB retrospective written by Brian Redman. The opening spread shows Redman rounding La Source at Spa in a restored example of the car. At first glance it seems a straightforward pan shot, done with a fairly wide lens -- but on closer examination the blur doesn't appear to be uniform across the entire photo. The driver's helmet and immediate cockpit area have little or no blur, but it gets more pronounced the farther out you go. (I've seen this in other photos, but this is the one that prompted me to ask.) Any ideas how this is done? Straight pan? Pan with slow- synch flash? (La Source is the slowest corner on the circuit, and it's not an actual race shot.) Zoom during exposure? Digital trickery? Some combination of the foregoing? Obligatory content: I'd like to duplicate this effect with my Pentax cameras and lenses. All help appreciated, Stephen Moore
*ist-D - Press release out in June/July
Here is the release http://www.dpreview.com/ I have been that close to selling my Pentax gear but this changes it all, my order is placed!
Re: And it's HERE!
And why not? http://www.torphoto.net/images/fl3.jpg --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean no more flower/cat photos? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
The D *ist is the real Olydak--?
Unfortunately - still no photos... One thing at a time, gang. You only have to wait a few more days for the photos. The prototype will be showed under glass at PMA, and we will get photos from the show floor to share with the PDML. I'm sure the reason there are no official photos with the press release is that the final production version of the D *ist has not been absolutely finalized yet. Quite some time ago I wrote a column about the rumored Olydak, the collaboration between Olympus and Kodak that was supposed to be a small, light SLR with purpose-built lenses. Well, I think I got what I was wishing for, just not from Olympus...the D *ist is certainly looking to me like what the DSLR universe needs! I just hope they can bring that projected price of $2,500 down somewhat.* --Mike * Gotcha. Did I getcha?
RE: Digital *ist news (feel sorry for Marcus)
Nope why should I, I probably got one of his lenses to lol. --- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone called Marcus posted on Photozone the following when told about the *istD: SHxx!!! I have sold all my K-mount lenses 7 years ago. Now I am stucked with bloody Minolta... :-((( Doncha feel sorry for him! __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
RE: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
US press release up now: http://www.pentax.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=152
Re: And it's HERE!
I wouldn't be surprised that it supports HSS (High Speed Synch) with the AF360FGZ. Bruce Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 7:26:32 PM, you wrote: bcin Flash sync to slow at 1/150,damn.Nice to see it takes just about any Pentax bcin lens though. bcin Dave Brooks And It's HERE! http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR-IST_uk. html
Been lurking far too long
Just like to say hello to you all. I've been lurking here since just before the MZ-S appeared, got mine on the first day of issue in UK. Been using Pentax gear on and off since 1977. If the *ist-D hadn't been announced by mid March I would have flogged my current gear and been away but what a great day, here it is at last! Mine is on order, so start saving now... Ziggy
Re: classic user interface
It seems that the interface by description, is a bit more like the PZ-1p style. Still not bad. If the price is good, they could have a really good thing going here. Bruce Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 8:34:36 AM, you wrote: PJ Alin wrote: The user interface differs from the film *ist: it sports two dials dedicated for speed and aperture. Add hyper manual and it's obvious this camera is *not* entry-level, it's aimed straight to enthusiasts. PJ I think it is entry level DSLR but as every DSLR basically cater to the enthusiasts, you're basically correct. Anyway, this probably reflect the flexibility of the new SLR platform. At least two PJ more film cameras are promised on this platform and I believe the timeframe is relatively short term. PJ Otherwise, the *Ist D is everything I though it would be; particularly its small size. PJ Pål
RE: The D *ist is the real Olydak--?
-Original Message- From: Mike Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 17:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The D *ist is the real Olydak--? Unfortunately - still no photos... One thing at a time, gang. You only have to wait a few more days for the photos. The prototype will be showed under glass at PMA, and we will get photos from the show floor to share with the PDML. I'm sure the reason there are no official photos with the press release is that the final production version of the D *ist has not been absolutely finalized yet. Quite some time ago I wrote a column about the rumored Olydak, the collaboration between Olympus and Kodak that was supposed to be a small, light SLR with purpose-built lenses. Well, I think I got what I was wishing for, just not from Olympus...the D *ist is certainly looking to me like what the DSLR universe needs! I just hope they can bring that projected price of $2,500 down somewhat.* --Mike If this can come in at no higher than 1400 GBP in the UK then Pentax may have a winner, we just have to wait and see. Ziggy * Gotcha. Did I getcha?
Re: The D *ist is the real Olydak--?
On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 18:14 Europe/Warsaw, Mike Johnston wrote: Quite some time ago I wrote a column about the rumored Olydak, the collaboration between Olympus and Kodak that was supposed to be a small, light SLR with purpose-built lenses. Well, I think I got what I was wishing for, just not from Olympus...the D *ist is certainly looking to me like what the DSLR universe needs! I wonder if Olydak project will ever see light of the day. Seing such a small DSLR like D*ist there is no chance for Olydak with neccesity to buy completeley new lenses. Regards Sylwek
Re: The D *ist is the real Olydak--?
Mike SPOP!!! Or we will flood you with more flower and cat pics again. --- Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately - still no photos... One thing at a time, gang. You only have to wait a few more days for the photos. The prototype will be showed under glass at PMA, and we will get photos from the show floor to share with the PDML. I'm sure the reason there are no official photos with the press release is that the final production version of the D *ist has not been absolutely finalized yet. Quite some time ago I wrote a column about the rumored Olydak, the collaboration between Olympus and Kodak that was supposed to be a small, light SLR with purpose-built lenses. Well, I think I got what I was wishing for, just not from Olympus...the D *ist is certainly looking to me like what the DSLR universe needs! I just hope they can bring that projected price of $2,500 down somewhat.* --Mike * Gotcha. Did I getcha? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Semi-OT: Pan Techniques
Hi Stephen, If it's anything like http://pug.komkon.org/00june/MotoPan1.html where there is a distinct difference in blur between various parts of the driver (much easily spotted on the big enlargement), this may be due to the slight difference in angle between subject and panning direction. Also, the motorbike was heading towards me, hence a part of the subject may have fallen outside the dof. Servus, Alin Stephen wrote: SM The driver's helmet and immediate cockpit area have little SM or no blur, but it gets more pronounced the farther out SM you go. (I've seen this in other photos, but this is the one SM that prompted me to ask.) SM Any ideas how this is done? Straight pan? Pan with slow- SM synch flash? (La Source is the slowest corner on the circuit, SM and it's not an actual race shot.) Zoom during exposure? SM Digital trickery? Some combination of the foregoing? SM Obligatory content: I'd like to duplicate this effect SM with my Pentax cameras and lenses. SM All help appreciated, SM Stephen Moore
Re: Digital *ist news
Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 17:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *ist D!!! US press release up now: http://www.pentax.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=152 Almost the same size as MZ-S MZ-S5.4 (W) x 3.7 (H) x 2.5 (D) (136.5 x 95.0 x 64.0mm) 520g *ist-D 5 inches (129mm) x 3.7 inches (95mm) x 2.3 inches (60mm) 510g I wonder what the battery grip will be and whether it takes Lithium-Ion power Ziggy
Re: It's HERE!... Bah!
If it ain't black, I don't shoot it. I ain't goin' t'have a camera that so rounded it looks like it was fashioned from a mold normally used to shape a bar of soap either. Regards, Bob... --- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] More on the DSLR-- I haven't gotten a Digest this morning so I'm assuming I'm incommunicado from the PDML again, really piss-poor timing for THAT. http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_02262003_istD_pr.html
Re: Digital *ist news
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. Of course, one could always argue that the *ist D is not an up-to-date DSLR, since 6MP DSLR's have been around for quite some time already, and Pentax is announcing theirs at the same time that others are announcing 10/14MP ones. :) At any rate, at least we can laugh at Minolta. chris
What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
Okay, I am just a newbie/novice, but something hit me immediately about the D*ist. (I think, maybe, I stop being a newbie after six months. But, novice? Maybe one to two years). 1. Your Pentax glass just went up in value. Or will as soon as the D*ist is released. 2. The competition for Pentax glass just increased 5-10 fold. That's if the D*ist looks as good as it seems to and is priced right. In other words, it will probably be a seller. Which means that more and more people will be scourging around for Pentax glass -- M, A, F, FA. Sure lots will just be looking for autofocus, but I bet it will increase the number looking for old manual Pentax primes as well. And old Pentax autofocus zooms. In other words, you might want to stock up. Or maybe not. Just a newbie/novice here. So what do I know??? Doe aka Marnie ;-)
Goody, Yummy
I'm sure y'all have noticed this little codicil on dpreview.com: In its quest for ever higher performance combined with compact dimensions, PENTAX has been developing lenses compatible with the new PENTAX digital SLR camera. PENTAX aims to launch these in fall 2003. Oh, goody, goody, yummy, yummy --Mike
RE: Been lurking far too long
Yours is on order? Where from, and at what price? Or were you just talking figuratively?# Woo hoo indeed, what a day! -Original Message- From: zoomshot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 17:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Been lurking far too long Just like to say hello to you all. I've been lurking here since just before the MZ-S appeared, got mine on the first day of issue in UK. Been using Pentax gear on and off since 1977. If the *ist-D hadn't been announced by mid March I would have flogged my current gear and been away but what a great day, here it is at last! Mine is on order, so start saving now... Ziggy
Re: Digital *ist news
hmmm. Where =is= BR? At 12:43 PM 2/26/03, you wrote: Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Effective WHAT? (Digital *ist)
Anyone else wonder about 'effective' megapixels? As opposed to what, 'real' megapixels? 'virtual' megapixels? Are Pentax pixels the same as Nikon pixels? Inquiring minds would like to know, before plunking down hard earned cash... Michel Adam
Re: *ist: classic user interface
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:02:43 -0500 (EST), gfen wrote: .95 and 95% coverage, with pentaprism? Could it be a departure of the ZX tunnelvision viewfinders? Not really, don't forget this is 95% coverage of APS format (about 16x24) not 24x36. That is why the prism-housing is probably not much bigger that the one on the film *ist. And a magnification of .95 times APS size is still SMALLER than the 0.75 times 24x36 that the MZ-S has ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re[2]: classic user interface
Bruce wrote: BD It seems that the interface by description, is a bit more like the BD PZ-1p style. Still not bad. *ist (and likely d*ist) sports dials and not wheels. You can turn it both with one finger while looking through the viewfinder, you have direct view control when you look from above (with camera on a tripod). A much better interface than PZ-1p, I'd say... Servus, Alin
Re: It's HERE!... Bah!
Just noticed this scary bit on the DP Review web page: In its quest for ever higher performance combined with compact dimensions, PENTAX has been developing lenses compatible with the new PENTAX digital SLR camera. PENTAX aims to launch these in fall 2003. I suspect this means lenses with less-than-full-frame coverage, made specifically for the DSLR. Hope this doesn't affect plans for the full-frame digicam so many of us are holding out for. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Famous last words (WAS: Re: Digital *ist news)
Mark wrote: Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. So have I. How about these: It isn't that Pentax will use some new lens mount on an interchangeable DSLR, they aren't going to release an interchangeable lens DSLR. There are not enough people out there who would buy it to pay for its cost. Pentax has never been willing to buy market share. They are too small a company to be able to come out with a new digital body every year (their sales are 1/10 of Canon's). Pentax may have been able to get some market share if they could have made a production camera out of the prototype that they showed, but they didn't. They missed their window of opportunity and have passed on making this type of product. By the time that Pentax would ever start selling an IL-DSLR, anyone who wanted digital will have been long gone. Right now, interchangeable lens DSLRs (IL-DSLR) come in two flavors: Nikon or Canon mount; we'll see if Sigma can make a go of it. I suspect that they will only wind up with a slightly bigger segment of the market than they have with their film SLRs. I have no idea why anyone seriously thought, as opposed to wished, that Pentax would sell a DSLR. People who have a need for digital have, and will, find other solutions. I don't expect any major, or long term, effect on the Pentax used equipment market.
Re: Goody, Yummy
Mike wrote: In its quest for ever higher performance combined with compact dimensions, PENTAX has been developing lenses compatible with the new PENTAX digital SLR camera. PENTAX aims to launch these in fall 2003. Yep. There are also underground backdoor rumors saying something good will happen in the lens department. Pål
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. The competition for Pentax glass just increased 5-10 fold. That's if the D*ist looks as good as it seems to and is priced right. In other words, it will probably be a seller. Which could also mean the value of your Pentax film cameras just took a nosedive... :-( -- Later, Gary
RE: Been lurking far too long
-Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 17:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Been lurking far too long Yours is on order? Where from, and at what price? Or were you just talking figuratively?# Woo hoo indeed, what a day! -Original Message- From: zoomshot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 17:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Been lurking far too long Just like to say hello to you all. I've been lurking here since just before the MZ-S appeared, got mine on the first day of issue in UK. Been using Pentax gear on and off since 1977. If the *ist-D hadn't been announced by mid March I would have flogged my current gear and been away but what a great day, here it is at last! Mine is on order, so start saving now... Ziggy Just getting very excited Don't yet know the price but will be on the 'cameraworld' waiting list tomorrow and will have one on the day it comes out in this country. Ziggy
Re: Digital *ist news
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: They've gone this far, and further, before.. Before you heat up Bruce's humble pie, you may want to actually wait to see 'em in the stores. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: Effective WHAT? (Digital *ist)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else wonder about 'effective' megapixels? As opposed to what, 'real' megapixels? 'virtual' megapixels? Are Pentax pixels the same as Nikon pixels? Inquiring minds would like to know, before plunking down hard earned cash... Relax. Digital cameras don't use all the pixels in their CCDs, keeping some outside the picture area in order to obtain a dark reference. Effective Megapixels means they're being honest enough to just count the pixels within the picture area, rather than the slightly greater number of *total* megapixels. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re[2]: Digital *ist news
Actually, I don't care much for cameras over $5000. Those are rather demo products. You need to actually own to be able to laugh at... Servus,Alin Chris wrote: CB Of course, one could always argue that the *ist D is not an up-to-date CB DSLR, since 6MP DSLR's have been around for quite some time already, and CB Pentax is announcing theirs at the same time that others are announcing CB 10/14MP ones. :) At any rate, at least we can laugh at Minolta.
Re: Digital *ist news
On 03.2.26 0:43 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. Oh, he knew fully well Pentax was coming up with a new DSLR sooner or later (as anyone with sane and logical mind did), but wanted to satisfy his sadistic and perverse mind by torturing PDMLers while he could. So predictable, nothing new there and we are so used to it:-). Cheers, Ken P.S. But I would not be surprised if he secretly purchases the *ist D when it becomes available. In fact, I am sure he would ;-). Then we will welcome him back into the community as true one of our own.
Re: The Five VS1 70-210 Versions
I've updated my page of info on this lens/lenses: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/vivitar.htm Thanks, Mark. And I've saved a copy of it already - g. I do have the Modern Photo lens test results for Version 2, so I'll dig 'em out and get back to you, if you want to add them to your table. Thanks again. Fred
Re: Goody, Yummy
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure y'all have noticed this little codicil on dpreview.com: In its quest for ever higher performance combined with compact dimensions, PENTAX has been developing lenses compatible with the new PENTAX digital SLR camera. PENTAX aims to launch these in fall 2003. Put me off my lunch, that did :( -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Effective WHAT? (Digital *ist)
Anyone else wonder about 'effective' megapixels? Yes, indeed. Fred
Re: Digital *ist news
You know, I was just thinking about posting the same thing. He sure has been quiet today hasn't he? Bill - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Digital *ist news hmmm. Where =is= BR? At 12:43 PM 2/26/03, you wrote: Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Re[2]: classic user interface
On 03.2.26 1:01 PM, Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *ist (and likely d*ist) sports dials and not wheels. You can turn it both with one finger while looking through the viewfinder, you have direct view control when you look from above (with camera on a tripod). A much better interface than PZ-1p, I'd say... Very good point indeed. Once upon a time, I struggled to take some macro shots of various objects using a copy stand under different lighting using pz-1p. I immediately switched to MZ-3. Cheers, Ken
Silver MZ-S
Anybody seen a silver MZ-S? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2914463658category=15240 -- Later, Gary
Re: Digital *ist news
Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:43 PM 2/26/03, you wrote: Been saving this one in my keepers file for some time now: Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. hmmm. Where =is= BR? Here's an even better one: If you want a K mount DSLR, find a good machinist. You folks just don't get it. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg87301.html -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Cave story
Hi gang, the other day, I was visiting a local photo shop that also sells used equipment. I was playing with a very nice like new A* 300/4. Out of my price range, but I couldn't resist the temptation to hold it in my hands. Meanwhile, two youngsters were browsing the digital camera shelves, debating the merits of feature x on model y brand z against feature 1 on model 2 brand 3, and trying to decide which camera was best. A middle aged man enters and starts talking with the shop-keeper. Apparently, he was preparing for a vacation in some sunny islands and wanted a camera that takes good, sharp pictures. He said that he had a couple of pointshoot cameras and he was never happy with the quality of the photos, which he characterised as too fuzzy. He wanted something that is inexpensive enough so that he wouldn't cry too much if the camera gets stolen, broken or lost, but is rather small and light, and takes good quality photos. After some talk about how much automation would be needed, and the customer deciding that he wanted some sort of exposure automation, the shop-keeper demonstrated him a mint ME Super with a 50mm lens. 3 minutes later, the man left the shop with his new camera and I could see him through the windows, playing with it outside and looking very happy with his purchase. Then, I returned to playing with the A* 300, and the youngsters engaged in a new discussion on feature s on model t brand u against feature 5 on model 6 brand 7. It seems that sometimes we tend to be carried away by the coolness of some cameras or accesories, and forget why we wanted a camera in the first place. cheers, the caveman
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
Gary L. Murphy observed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. The competition for Pentax glass just increased 5-10 fold. That's if the D*ist looks as good as it seems to and is priced right. In other words, it will probably be a seller. Which could also mean the value of your Pentax film cameras just took a nosedive... :-( For a retailer trying to make money selling film cameras, the value of their inventory taking a nosedive is a bad thing. For a speculative collector (i.e. one who buys collectibles as investments), likewise. But for someone who never plans to _sell_ her cameras, because they're _tools_, this only means that buying backup gear on the used market get easier, n'est-ce pas? (Though it does mean that buying _lenses_ gets tougher for a while...) As long as the profit margin on new film cameras stays just high enough for them to continue to be manufactured at all, and for Pentax to keep repairing them when they wear out, anyhow. -- Glenn
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
2. The competition for Pentax glass just increased 5-10 fold. That's if the D*ist looks as good as it seems to and is priced right. In other words, it will probably be a seller. Which could also mean the value of your Pentax film cameras just took a nosedive... :-( Or it can mean that Pentax is a few years behind its competitors (Canon, Nikon, etc.) This camera does not know more then some of the top digital ones of the past two years. (unless you are a Pentax fanatic like many of us or own many Pentax lenses that you want to reutilize, hence did not go for the competitor's model) I will not go digital before 8-10 megapixels and 1 to 1 field of view crop... (and even then I will probably wait until the price becomes half way decent, which probably means another model coming out) (and of course it would have to be a Pentax) But I really don't thik that the price of K and M series machines or the LX took a nosedive though... L
Re: Digital *ist news
On 03.2.26 0:48 PM, Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At any rate, at least we can laugh at Minolta. Well, I am not so sure about it. I will hold it. Ken
a real advantage of the D*ist!
Hi all, Never mind the 6 megapixels, or the small size, or the newest AF system in any DSLR... here's the biggest advantage of the D*ist --- it takes ORDINARY AA BATTERIES... you know, the kind you can buy in just about any small shop, anywhere in the world :-) This simple thing could get more working photographers interested the Pentax than anything else. (that and something about lenses... ;-) ) -- Kristian
Re: Silver MZ-S
Bruce Dayton wrote: Gary, Yuck! My exact thoughts! -- Later, Gary
Re: Silver MZ-S
Brendan wrote: you know even with the new today, DAMN this is tempting. Help yourself... I think it's UGLY :-) -- Later, Gary
Re: Digital *ist news
HAR! --- Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm. Where =is= BR? Busy selling N***n gear. cheers, the caveman __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
*ist D finder is 95% fov and 0.95X Pentaprism
Woohoo! An optical pentaprism viewfinder was developed especially for the *ist D. This makes viewing easy with an ample 95% field of view and 0.95X magnification. There is also a superimposed display function which assists composition by illuminating the AF points in red. Dan Scott VBG
Re: a real advantage of the D*ist!
Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never mind the 6 megapixels, or the small size, or the newest AF system in any DSLR... here's the biggest advantage of the D*ist --- it takes ORDINARY AA BATTERIES... you know, the kind you can buy in just about any small shop, anywhere in the world :-) ;-) To me, this was one of the major reasons for buying the BG-10 grip for the MZ-S. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: To Everyone who has been published
John Poirier wrote: My first published photo was..are you ready for this?..a three-legged chicken. Shot on the first roll of film I processed and printed myself, 1974. It ran in a local weekly, but I don't remember whether I got paid. That was shortly after getting my first SLR, too. An Argus/Cosina STL1000, I think (A rather decent, rugged M42 mount beast). Couldn't afford Pentax then! John Poirier What conditionis the chicken in now? Could it be used to unsubcribe to PDML? (ann ducks, cause she's chicken) annsan - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 23, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: To Everyone who has been published What was your first published photograph? Mine was some bw work for Prison Ministries in Omaha, taken in maximum security. Just something for the brochure. About the same time I did some for Wayne Alderson his union/management seminars. Again, just something for the brochure. And, I didn't get paid for either one. Gotta start somewhere, I guess. Collin
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
Brendan wrote: Actually expect the prices to GO UP all those who were dumping Pentax, are now going to jump back in and buy stuff, watch our cameras and lenses increase in value and ebay a sellers paradise for Pentax items. Guess we'll agree to disagree here, Brendan. If you owned a camera shop and everyone was coming in to trade-in their film based Pentax =bodies= for the digital SLR you would have quite a supply of used Pentax film bodies that are not moving. If that happens, you would offer less for the bodies as a trade-in and also, because of this, lower the price on them as they are not selling. Please note I'm talking =bodies=, not lenses. I will agree that the Pentax used lens market will go up. -- Later, Gary
Re: The Five VS1 70-210 Versions
Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do have the Modern Photo lens test results for Version 2, so I'll dig 'em out and get back to you, if you want to add them to your table. Done. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/vivitar.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Cave story
Brendan wrote: VAL when are you going to Visit Toronto :p First, I'll have to decide under which pile of snow is my car. Then, I'll have to shovel that white c**p off it. Several times, until I manage to do it *before* the guy with the big road shovel covers it again. And this kinda smells like conspiracy. I *refuse* to max out my credit card at Henry's ;-) cheers, the caveman
Re: Bodies: K2 vs. KX vs. LX
That could be because the K2 is basically a paperweight with dead electronics while the KX is still a useable camera. At 09:26 AM 2/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replying late to this! Sorry, but... I'm likely going to be doing some extreme macro photography this summer (in the 1X to 4X range), so I've been seriously considering getting a body that offers MLU. Hence my interest in a classic body that offers MLU. LX is definitely the best, and if money were no object for me I'd just shell out five or six C-notes and be done with it. Alas, I'm poor. Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Page lists the KX and K2 as also offering MLU. What's worrying is that they're somewhat old bodies (all 25+ years old by now). The K2 also is an electronic camera, which makes me wonder how likely it is that the circuit board will suddenly up and quit (and if it does, how likely it is to be unrepairable). In my experience, the electronics of the KX are much less reliable than those of the K2. I've seen *lots* of KX's with dead meter electronics but never a K2 with dead electronics. I also just plain have a preference for a mechanical-shutter camera, though I'll compromise on that if it means getting a good body with MLU for significantly less. I notice Adorama's used department has a several K2 bodies listed for under $150. A cursory search hasn't turned up any KX bodies for sale, I don't think the K2 sold better than the less expensive KX - or if it did it was only by a small margin. My suspicion is that the K2 has proven more durable over time (metal blade shutter, more reliable electronics) and so there are fewer KX's left on the market. So, should I even consider a K2 or KX? Is there anything in particular to watch out for with these bodies? Or should I just forget about it and spring for an LX? I think you should *consider* both but lean toward the K2 in terms of reliability. Personally, I'd *love* to get myself a KX in good condition, but I'd feel I had to regard it as a collector's item, just due to my experiences so far. (I've had several K2's and found them very reliable). If you see a KX on eBay being sold as is and the seller claims he can't test the meter because he doesn't have a battery RUN AWAY! ;-) The K2 has a better viewfinder, faster flash sync (1/125) and, of course, auto exposure. The KX reputedly has less shutter vibration, but I've found the K2 works very well indeed with the mirror locked up. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
Re: Silver MZ-S
It's a collectors item, It looks like a Leica to :D --- Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan wrote: you know even with the new today, DAMN this is tempting. Help yourself... I think it's UGLY :-) -- Later, Gary __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Silver MZ-S
Peter Smekal wrote: The same guy sold the Titanium LX. Where does he got this nice stuff from? Good question... Maybe he has a contact inside Pentax? Not so nice feedback though! Yeah, and nothing as a seller -- Later, Gary
Re: Comparing Pentax 80-200/2.8 vs Sigma 70-200/2.8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to get one of these.has anyone on the list tested both optically? Magazine test results suggest the Sigma is optically better, consistently. Is this true? Help! Haven't tried both lenses but I'm familiar enough with magazine tests in general to know how much to trust them... I have the Pentax. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
Gary L. Murphy wrote: So, what happens when the market is flooded by Pentax film bodies because everyone is going digital? The price goes down. Simple supply and demand. I don't think there will be too many film bodies sold just because the D came out. Considering the D price, there will be quite few people to buy it in the first place. Then, even if you get the D, you might want to keep a film body too, just in case. Or because you noticed that a properly scanned slide might give better quality than the 6 MP sensor. Or for whatever other reason, like having alternate media availability. On the other hand, I suspect that lenses will be in slightly higher demand. Even if someone doesn't buy the D, its mere existence gives confidence to someone investing in K-mount lenses. cheers, the caveman
Re: Cave story
First never park your car on the street, 2nd learn how to probe for cars under snow piles, 3rd bribe the snow plows to clear a path for your car ( jug of hot coffee works well ) 4th Henrys, Oh please, We're taking you to Aarons instead. --- Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan wrote: VAL when are you going to Visit Toronto :p First, I'll have to decide under which pile of snow is my car. Then, I'll have to shovel that white c**p off it. Several times, until I manage to do it *before* the guy with the big road shovel covers it again. And this kinda smells like conspiracy. I *refuse* to max out my credit card at Henry's ;-) cheers, the caveman __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
